Matinee Monday: The Country Bears (w/ Kulap Vilaysack)
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Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? I am Paul Scheer, and today we are talking about the 2002 Disney film, The Country Bears. What do you need to know? It's a movie based on a ride about a young bear in search of the best

bear ban there is. Will they put them back together? Will they save the bear country hall? All this and more we're going to get into it, but first, let me introduce my co-host, Jason Manzoukas. How are you, Jason? Oh, Paul. Hey.

I watched this movie this morning. It was terrible. 88 minutes. Is this movie the exact same plot as Blues Brothers 2000? Um, it is. Is the little Haley Joel Osment bear basically Scribbles? Scribbles the bear? Mm-hmm.

Well, here's the one difference. Scribbles didn't have any say in putting the band back together. But this, the, the kid bear barely has, you know, let's get into it. Let's get this. This made me mad. Well, we'll, we'll, we'll break it all down. I will say if you are comparing notes, it does have the exact same plot as the Muppet movie that came out recently. The exact same pop, both Disney films. Uh, but let's get into it with my other cohost, uh,

June Diane Raphael. How are you, June? I'm okay, Paul. Okay, Paul. How are you? Very well. June, when we put on this movie last night, you said one thing. Do you remember that? No. You said, I can't do this movie. And it was within the first 30 seconds of it. What reached out to you in that first 30 seconds? I found this movie to be terrifying. There are shots of, there are certain shots in this movie that feel like a horror film to me.

The first shot of the bear. I mean, I guess, should we just get into it? Okay, yeah. There are things about this movie that are haunting. Got it. All right. Haunting to me. Jason's bored. The size and scope and scale of the bears. And here's the thing. Were there other bears in the world? Yes, there were. I need to get into that. I need to get a very few. There are five other.

bears in the world very few i think i only saw two but let's get into it all with our uh returning guest i would call her how did this get made all-star she's been with us since the beginning first ever episode she is uh a writer she is a director uh she hosted an amazingly funny uh show here called who charted but right now we're here to celebrate your brand new film that you uh

that you wrote, you directed, you star in. It's a documentary called Origin Story, which is right now on Amazon Prime. Please welcome Kulab Filisak. Kulab, since we last met, you've become a fucking powerhouse director, getting write-ups all over the place. DIY, baby.

Are you still shooting any of the movie? Like, are there parts I can audition for? It's a documentary, Jason. You can't just audition for it. I'd love to play myself. Well, I think this will be in the sequel. Great. Let me just get this right, though, because several of your friends do appear in the movie. I know I do. Yes, well, you're a producer. Yes, and I also appear doing a testimonial. And I know Sarah Silverman's in it. Casey's in it. Did you not ask Jason because there was no... Wow, interesting. All right, this is a good call. Part four.

for him or you didn't want him to win? I mean, guys, when we say part, again, it's an autobiographical documentary. But I mean, about your life. Right.

Right. Your life, which I feature very prominently. I know, Jace. Well, we are, you are a good friend. I would say I'm like a recurring guest star in your life. Would you say that now? Did you negotiate that? I mean, can I just say, can I just say just based on what's happening right here, it feels a little bit like Tennessee and Trixie's relationship in the Country Bears film. Chemistry. A little chemistry. Am I also wearing a racy outfit? Yeah.

to cover up your bear farm underneath except for a robe where everyone else is covering their bits. Yeah, or barely even. That's the thing. Trixie is barely even. Wow. I feel like I've done this show four times and each movie I've done prior, there was something to like. There were

parts that were interesting. There were two mothers fucking each other's sons. Yes. Right? Adore. You guys know I love an emo Tobey Maguire over whatever that Andrew Garfield bullshit was. But this was Jeff. Wait a second, cool up. There's a great scene in this movie. Uh-oh. There's two wonderful moments in this movie.

Only involving Christopher Walken. No, there's a different... By the way, MVP. MVP, and he's amazing. And the scene with the bear model country place getting squashed is hilarious. It's a great scene. It's a great scene. And then there's another moment when all of the bears are on the road. They are at a diner.

And Tennessee reveals that he's divorced from Trixie. And Tennessee is the therapist who. He's a marriage therapist. Okay. I'll take it all the way back. But let me just tell, let me just tell, cool up. The other wonderful moment in this movie is when Tennessee says, you know, I got divorced from Trixie and one of the other bears, I don't know any of their names, says, was it the sweater?

Yeah. And it was a laugh out loud moment. Well, I think genuinely was delivered really well. Yes. It was hilarious. And when you think about when you say that thing about delivery, I think we have to remember that there are people in the suit.

And then there are people doing their voices. They are separate entities. So we have two people combining for one great performance. Much like a transformer. And here's the other thing. I think, and I might be wrong, but I think there are certain times when the person voicing the bear is...

is not the voice of the bear singing. Exactly. So when Bonnie, when Bonnie rate sings Trixie, I'm not sure if Bonnie rates doing Trixie's dialogue as well. No, she is not. Right. I know. She's definitely not in the bear costume. Oh no. She's definitely in the bear costume. Yeah. Like she requested. That's what she does. Bonnie rates. Whole thing is six months of the year. She's on tour six months of the year. She's in a bear costume at Disney world. She,

is amazing in that bear costume. It's very like Sia. Like, you know, you don't really see her. She's the Sia of bears. By the way, as we're talking about the voices that were lent to the bear,

Don Henley was the other voice of Tennessee, the singing voice of Tennessee. This is an all-star cast. And Toby Huss. Oh, no, what was he? He was the one who was addicted to honey, which is liquor. Is honey booze? That's what I was asking. Is honey booze for bears? Can we go back to what Jason was saying about bears in this world? Let's go back to what Jason was saying.

The bears in this world are the biggest question mark I have because Haley Joel Osment, the bear, is in a family of Stephen Tobolowsky. Stephen Tobolowsky's like normal human family has adopted a bear son. And even though their last name is... Adopted? Stolen. Oh boy. Oh boy. Wow. From what I could understand... There was a collar displayed. That's what I'm saying. The bear

The main bear, the Haley Joel Osment bear. Berry. Berry. And they are called the Barringtons. They are the Barringtons. Yes. So they have an affinity. They're bear-philes. Oh. They seem to, from that story that his brother told him, that bear was just trapped by a... Like, bear trafficked. Yes. And... Bear trafficked.

So you're saying that underneath this is a very sad story about bears being like- Why would anyone ever, what world is this in which bears are adopted? The bear was not endangered. The bear was not- I couldn't figure that out either. I couldn't figure out what was the, because the country bears just live in the world.

But are there bears in this world? And I say that in the way that are there bears as we know them in this world? Like regular bears. Regular bears. Or are all bears. There are other animals that seem to be in their habitats living their lives. Yeah, the chicken. The chicken. The chicken doesn't talk. No. The chicken is a chicken. Yeah.

Right. When we find out at the end is a female chicken. June's point is important. The chicken is a chicken. The chicken is a chicken. That's like a very existential statement. There seem to be dogs and cats that just exist. Yes. And then there are these bears. These bears. These bears. These bears.

Please speak of the scales, please. The scale of the bear. Did you guys think that the bears were to scale? Here's the thing. Oftentimes I notice like when the bears need to use a payphone, they have had to build a big payphone. So the world has accommodated certain bear needs. But in the world that we have been introduced to, there are only about...

five bears out there. Yes. But didn't it sometimes seem like the bears were 15 feet tall? Yes. And sometimes the same height. And sometimes the same height. But how...

Well, first of all, how tall is an actual bear? Depends on what type of bear we're talking about. Like a regular bear. Like a brown bear. How tall is a brown bear? I think you're talking six to nine feet tall, depending on what species of bear. A Kodiak. Some are much bigger, grizzlies and so forth, but some are like a brown bear. I'll rephrase the question. How big is the biggest bear?

Okay, I'm going to type that in. How big is the biggest bear? It's got to be the Kodiak. There's a bear that fights in the new Godzilla movie that I believe is 16 stories tall. Well, I want to answer this question by saying that I think that this movie unfortunately reversed engineered the size of the bears based on the attraction in Disneyland.

because the, this is a movie based on an attraction. It's an attraction that I brought my dad to when we went to Tokyo Disney. I said, we needed to go see the country bear, uh, Jamboree. Cause it's one of the few remaining places, uh, the country bears exist. Um,

And the bears in that show are very large, I think, to accommodate a stage show. So I think they just said, well, we need to keep them that size. Can I ask a quick question? Clarification. The country bears show is animatronic or is it people in suits? Animatronic. Okay. And they play songs. Why does it matter? Like, why would you have to draw these bears to scale with a ride at Disney?

Well, I mean, I think you're coming for that, right? It's sort of like, I love the ride at Disney. Now I need to see the movie.

Right? I mean, isn't that kind of like the promise of the press? Is this basically like Pirates of the Caribbean, but with country bears? Yes. It worked with that. Let's just get these bears on a movie. This is, I think, before it even kind of clicked in. It was like they had Eddie Murphy doing the Haunted Mansion. They did? Oh, yeah. I guess it's just so weird because we know that there are humans in those suits. And yet the bears themselves, like, I would think that they would build costumes for very tall people. Yeah.

Okay. But then at points, those bears look like they were 15 feet tall. That's... No, they can't. That's so big. They looked enormous. I know. They looked enormous. Yes, they are very big. But nobody...

The world seems to be not set up for it, but they don't seem to... Nobody blinks an eye. They don't, yeah. Nobody blinks an eye. Everything seems to be totally normal that these bears in some clothing... Right. ...speaking English are just wandering around. Well, they became big, giant country music stars, but I would also argue that...

I was worried for Hallie Joel Osment, the bear, because, by the way, when we refer to him, you have to picture a bear. He is a bear. Yes. Barry Barrington. Barry Barrington. He is at the table, and he says to his parents, am I adopted? I look different. He's like,

Does he know he's a bear? Well, that's my question. Does he know he's a bear? I don't think so. Because he's literally, there is a honey bear on the table in front of him. He just came from watching the country bears documentary behind the music upstairs. What's so weird is I think he sees those bears and

He sees his family. He doesn't know. He's connected to the music, but he doesn't know that that's, that he's one of them. Is he a, are all bears country bears? Is he a country bear? Well, I think. And one of them, his father. Like, that's what I wrote. Is Paul trying to re-traumatize me? I wrote that here. Is Paul. This is a tie-in. Well, you see. And then I wrote, Barry took it better than I did.

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So do you think that these bears are granted special powers? Is that what we're talking about? Cause, cause they birthed him. Cause I don't know, like how are country bears made? Like, like are some bears born capable of speech and, um, uh, uh,

Musical acuity? Because country bears is like calling somebody the Eagles, like the band the Eagles. They're not like country bears. Yeah, it's kind of like a species. But just to answer all your questions, the biggest bear is the polar bear. Okay. And the average weight of the polar bear is about 900 to 1,500 pounds. Oh, that's big. The heaviest on record is a 2,000 pound polar bear. And the tallest the polar bear could ever be. This is the biggest one. Okay.

8 to 8.4 feet. Okay. So, literally 8 feet less than what you thought these bears are. The concept of like a 15 to 16 foot bear would be like, really like two story tall bear. It would be very scary. Yeah, yeah. I mean, in this world, I think before the movie starts, some things happened and bears have evolved. Okay. Um...

At a rapid pace and are singing and dancing and speaking. And flipping. By the way, that opening cut, these bears are doing more agile work than any for their lofty weight and disproportionate weight. They're flipping, they're flying around. They're doing stage dives. You're telling, this movie posits that a country bear invented the stage dive.

Oh, yeah. That's irresponsible. Well, here's something that's really crazy. At a certain point in the movie, they cut to news footage. And the newscaster refers to the country bears as men. Oh, wow. Now that's interesting. I missed that. Not male, but men. Men. Interesting. These men kidnapped. Oh. And it's so strange because then I thought maybe the world is not seeing men.

The Country Bears. Wow. Okay. Oh. Now that's curious. They're just husky, your men. Bottom, heavy, hairy men. Well, here's the thing. Let me corroborate this with, I would argue that if you were to tell this movie from the adopted brother's point of view... Mm-hmm.

Dex believes he's the only one who can see that the brother is a bear. No. Tobolowsky knows he's a bear. Yeah, but he won't speak to it. Okay. He's like, I'm different. I'm different. He's like, you know what? Everybody...

Everybody's different in different ways. Blah, blah, blah. Nobody ever says you're a bear. Nobody ever said. And the kid's like, what are you talking about? When the police are there and the police are there and they're looking at photos and they're like, what is he a fourth grader? And they're like, that's exactly right. And he's like, what are you talking about? He's covered in hair all over his body. Like this kid is like, he's a bear. Right.

And meanwhile, the police officers of Ham and Cheats do a great job of finding him relatively quickly. I mean, they just go to the one place. Where? Does this all happen in one town? It seems like the bus to get there is...

is close and very far because the cops get there immediately. But Harold E. Joel Osment, the bear, takes a long time. The cops get there immediately. The cops run into them at the diner. The cops, they are all over each other. It all takes place in the Disney lot. That's what it feels like. It was like four days, right? It was $20,000 in four days. Yeah. And this is what's weird about the movie, too, that it's not really about...

the country bears, it's more about this spot that they played at. As though that's the thing. But it seems to be in the middle of the woods. Yeah.

Right. I guess I'm just like, why? Yeah. Why save this pile of wood? Like if the country bears are so great, they should be able to exist wherever they go. Well, my question is, how much were they charging for those tickets? Because even at the end, when they do save the day, it only seems like about 50 or 60 people showed up. They're definitely not making 20 grand that night. I mean, unless the ticket price. In one bucket?

In one bucket. In one bucket? Now, I never know how many jelly beans are in any size. Of course, yeah. And maybe there's like a VIP experience after work. Oh, okay. All right. You get a piece of merch. There's a meat and green. Perhaps there was an eBay type of situation. Who knows? Except with the country bears, it's an M-E-A-T. Oh. Do they eat? Just pounds of meat. Just piles of meat. Oh, my God.

They sign trouts for you. But I think here's a thought, and I just put it in your head. Maybe the Country Bear house is right on the verge of Silicon Valley. So these are all just tech investors. So they could maybe have raised that 20 grand. I fully expected the Country Bears to get a record deal at the end or something. Because that was the other thing. Everybody knew who they were. They were the best.

They were famous. They're the Beatles. But yet, wherever they went, people weren't like, oh, country bears. People weren't losing their minds everywhere. Well, when Crystal Harris puts it together, she goes, wait a second, you're Fred the Bear? But he's been working security at this music studio. They seem to be familiar with each other. Yeah, like she wouldn't have thought, wait a second, like-

If you saw Paul McCartney working security, you'd be like, you're Paul McCartney, right? You wouldn't need to see his guitar before you put it together. Yeah, you wouldn't. With his name written on it. Like, he just ends up back at the property of the Beatles. Here's the thing. She knows his name is Fred, but it's not until she sees his harmonica, which says Fred, that she says, wait a minute. You're the Fred who's a bear that plays harmonica? Yeah.

You're from the country bears. And then they proceed to do a musical number. And this is my biggest issue with the movie. I'm fine with musical numbers. If there's some reality to them, it seemed to me that they shot a full music video. And I'm like, okay, if that's a fantasy, that's one thing. But at the end...

She has already done makeup changes and wardrobe changes. And she's like, all right, got to go shoot my music video now. Meanwhile, when they're in the section of the movie where they begin singing and playing what we think is the music video, but then she's exactly like you said, says she's then going to do the music video. The film takes on the look of...

of a music video. Like the angles are all of a sudden all over the place. Crazy. It's quick cutting. So the film has the feel of a music video. See, but I could never tell in those moments and the same thing happened at the diner. In those moments, were we in the bear's fantasy? Yeah.

Were the bears fantasizing about their own music having this effect on people or was that really happening? Because Crystal Harris changed. That's what I'm saying. Like she was in a totally different outfit and makeup. She was in the cheerleader. Oh, so he was fantasizing for that long? Yeah. I don't think so. I think we're meant. But then the other bears saw him, saw them doing.

doing the video that jam that impromptu jam with changes which seemed like a country bear song not a Crystal Harris song right? they're all country bear songs Crystal Harris? yes great question I don't know really great question she is playing herself no disrespect but I was confused

Crystal Harris. I was like, oh, her and the waitress in the diner. I was like, I don't know who the waitress in the diner is. I was wondering if they were like Disney kids of the time. Sweet, mediocre talents of the day. Yeah. I figured maybe these were like Disney stars of this era.

Or I was like, or these are just actors and they're not supposed to be people I'm meant to know. No, most of them are. I mean, like Elton John recorded an original song for this movie. What? Why? There were so many people in there. Great actors in there.

Every scene. I was like, why is, why are you in this? June? I want to talk to about this. Queen Latifah plays two parts. Cause she plays queen Latifah in the documentary footage, but then she plays cha-cha in the bar.

Which is a bold choice. What? Wait, she's playing herself in the documentary? I didn't see the documentary. Oh, the documentary at the end when they go to credits. It's like Willie Nelson. It's Wyclef Jean. It's Queen Latifah. Talking about how the country bears were so inspiring to them. I did not watch that.

I get it. I thought that that was still her character. Cha-Cha? Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, no, Cha-Cha. Oh, Brian Setzer? Oh, Brian Setzer. Oh, yes, the house band. They spent so much money. Also, they spent so much money on music.

There are songs in here that are X. There's a Bob Dylan song. There's a Lucinda Williams song. There's so many expensive songs in this that I was like, what is going on? Money was spent on this movie. This is a kid's movie. This is unabashedly for children. I mean, I don't think so. I mean, I think it's a story that adults can definitely relate to. There are certainly sexual overtones. I mean, Trixie is naked. Trixie, I saw upstairs fur and downstairs fur. Yes.

And in between. By the way. The happy trail in between. Why wasn't Trixie a country bear? Wasn't she? She was. And why was she the... No, she wasn't a country bear. At the end, wasn't she part of the band? She was thrown on stage, but she wasn't a part of the country bear. The original, yeah, that's true. Which I found troubling. She seemed to be the most talented of all the bears. Absolutely. She's got Bonnie Raitt's voice. Yes. So that's like unquestionable. And possibly the only female bear. Yeah.

I mean, the biggest in the world. Yeah. She's the Smurfette of sentient bears. By the way, she has to be Haley Joel Osmond's mom. There's no other way. I don't disagree. There's not another woman with Tennessee in that Bill Cosby sweater. Yes. By the way, can we talk about his couple therapy skills? He's doing couples therapy forever.

Like the way that you would run a business meeting. He is behind a desk and his two people are sitting in front of him like they're getting a board review. Yes. And it's two SNL cast members from the time. And I was like, I love I wish they had like made this that they were themselves a couple married on SNL, but still needed a couple's therapy from a bear.

And the bear, he's, by the way, a terrible therapist. Terrible. Because he will not talk to them about themselves at all. He's just crying about him and Trixie. Come on. I really couldn't get to the bottom of what happened between him and Trixie. I mean, whoa. He cheated. He cheated on the road. He cheated on the road. Oh, but then he- On the hibernation tour? That's Barry's mom.

What'd you say? I just never saw it. Maybe not. Whoever you cheated with. Oh, interesting. Can I just pitch out the easier version of this movie? You have a whole world of bears. Oh. And then that's it. Like, I mean, I guess they couldn't afford the- Oh, everybody's a bear? Well, to me, it's sort of like, why do you put Haley Joel Osment there? Because-

Just put them in a family of bears, and they're like accountant bears. They're not creative bears. And he longs to be creative. It complicates the world that there are these things. Because at the car wash, there's one bear in the way background. That's the only other bear I saw. When the country bears play at the end, there's no bears that come to see the country bears. So they're not playing to their own audience. Where are the bears? And if they are being captured like that... Like our country bears...

an endangered species. First of all, like Sasquatch... You keep on calling them country bears. They're not country bears. They're just bears. Sure. Sure.

Language matters, Jason. But here's what I'm wondering. Here's what I'm wondering. Are these country bears... I guess like all... So we just live in a world in which all bears stand on their hind legs, walk around, wear clothes, talk and do jobs. We don't know if it's all bears. It's not just the country bears.

I feel like there was a magical... Country refers to the description of the music they play. And that they're from the country and speak like... All bears are from the country, first of all. Wait, not all from the country. Polar bear? Polar bear is from like Antarctica. Okay, I guess that's true. Words matter, June. Paddington was from the jungle. Yes. Okay.

June all of a sudden really stereotyping bears. You know, we have a large contingent of bears that listen to this podcast. There's a lot of bears who download How Did This Get Made? So they're blackberry. I think that these...

I think that these bears, again, the thing that makes the most sense to me is just bears had, through some sort of like nuclear event or some technology. Oh, you think it's like a Godzilla kind of thing. Something happened. Like Planet of the Apes. Bears evolved at a rapid pace past every other species. And so all bears now have been domesticized in this world.

All of them? Maybe. Maybe. But then we should have seen. Wouldn't that destroy the ecosystem? If bears left what they were up to and just started living in like in cities and hanging out? Wouldn't like our, wouldn't like, wouldn't everything fall apart? This brings me to my big point. I don't know. I mean, species die all the time, Jason. Where are the dinosaurs? Well, sure. But I mean, also the death of the dinosaurs, like eradicated life on like part of like everything, like completely. What?

What are we doing right now? What's happening? How did I get roped into this? Species. What I'm saying is. Yes. There are species that are dying right now. Sure. And it doesn't mean that. Some of them are delicious. It doesn't mean that life stops. Some of our like amazing trophies. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

I would love to have one of these country bear heads on the wall. Ooh, I would love a bear head. You got a country bear head on the wall? By the way, I was literally Googling last night. I bet you could find pieces of this costume because what are they going to do with these big bear feet? Why, Paul? I would like to have that in my house. Why were you Googling? Oh, Jude.

Stop this now. Why were you Googling, can I get a country bear costume? By the way, did you hear? You said, there's got to be pieces of these costumes. Why do you want bear parts? All I need is the head. I guarantee, June, you're going to walk in a Palshia jerking off with a bear paw on. First of all, single bear paw. It's natural. Two

Finish. It's natural. Two. When I'm hanging out with Bonnie Raitt, who will be laughing then? All right? Because we'll be comparing our bear suits. Here's my issue about bears. Because they go visit Cha-Cha, who is Queen Latifah, at the Swarming Hive Honey Bar, which seemingly is a bar that serves...

Yet there are no patrons in there besides Zeb Zubler, who is a bear. But yet they have like a bark scratcher, which is like a big piece of wood to scratch a bear's back. But there's no other bears in a honey bar. Yes, that bolsters your thought that the whole world should be catering to bears.

because it's a bear's world. Right. But it is not. It is overwhelmingly human world and the country bears that we are following are the only bears. And if you could get drunk on honey, I would have done it. Yeah. The alcoholic content of honey is zero. Well, it seems like she was kind of... Are humans there, too?

they're drinking honey? Yes. Like if I go to that bar. They were like pigs. Yeah. If I go to that bar to hear Brian Setzer Orchestra. The house band. The house band. Do I just like drink honey? I also tell you the whole time I thought his last name was Seltzer. Yeah.

Really? Until just now? Until I saw the film. Wow! By the way, was that song they did together improvised in the moment like an Eminem kind of rap battle? Or was that a classic song of the Fiddler battle? Because it seemed to be a song that was telling the story of exactly what was happening. Oh, yeah. But it didn't seem like they were improvising. It was like, let's do this classic Fiddler song.

house band battle song. I agree. I think we're meant to believe they're just like winging it, but obviously it was like this some song, but it was weird that all the lyrics just were describing the literal events that were happening in the moment. But your credit's no good, man. You're out of money. I heard you, you fuzzy fool. Well, maybe let's do a deal.

And they gave Zeb Zubler a chance to kind of get better. Zeb Zubler. Who is from the actual Country Bear Jamboree, which we could all go to. And if you want to do like extra little extra research. Paul, what is going on? June, are you like keen into how into Country Bears Paul is? Where is the Country Bear ride? Uh, the Country Bear ride is in Tokyo Disneyland. Uh,

And it also... Wait, what? It's only in Tokyo? That's why I don't know why this movie was made. Well, it used to be in Disneyland here. What happened? People didn't like it anymore. It became irrelevant. I will tell you, it's a 16-minute long show that's...

Can at certain points be a little boring. I saw it in Disney World in Florida when I was like nine years old. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. It's basically, it's the inspiration of Bear Country, which is in Disneyland. But the Winnie the Pooh ride took over for that. But it's like basically, you know. Another bear wearing some clothes. Yes. Clothes that doesn't cover his genitals. Yeah.

No, he just wears a t-shirt. He just wears a shirt. Yeah. He's just kind of, he's like, got to wear that shirt. Just like, this is where like the clothing in this, I was like, would it be scandalous if Trixie took her clothes off? Yeah.

Would it be scandalous if that bear just removed his vest and hat? Are we then looking at him nude? This goes back to my biggest aesthetic choices alone. Well, that's a question I have for the bears, too, though. It might be scandalous for us to see them that way, but would they experience shame about their bodies?

Animals don't. Then if they don't, should we? But they have shame about their jobs. He didn't want to be seen as a wedding singer. He didn't want to be seen as the guy who lives over Elton John's pool house. He was embarrassed. Which he's doing fine if he's living with Elton John. But okay, okay.

By the way, Elton John delivering on his performance. I mean, everyone's bringing their, I mean, Don Henley going, you guys are better than the Eagles. Everyone's bringing a little bit of stuff because kids love Eagles humor and they get like Don Henley's whole take on that. Um,

The audience for this movie, young children, understand what a relentless dick Don Henley was throughout all iterations of The Eagles. And especially now in watching it, it must be interesting because we all know that Glenn Frey has passed and The Eagles are still going. You know, the kids know a lot of the history of The Eagles. Yeah.

What a great, I mean, there's so- Joe Walsh's addition in the late 70s, reinvigorating the band. Well, here's my question about the band. It seemed like there was no conflict in getting them back together because wherever they went, they're like, we're getting the band back together. It was like, all right. Can I ask, what was the incident that broke them up?

I do not. It had to do with the wedding singer, but I don't think we ever got to the bottom of... I don't think we did either. So he stormed... First of all, that tour bus was disgusting. Disgusting. And so then it made me also think, is this tour bus supposed to look disgusting? Like, we're thinking to ourselves, oh yeah, of course a bunch of bears lived in here. Do you think that was the case? Well, here, this is what it says on the Wikipedia page. Oh boy. Okay. Okay.

All right. It's a little bit more complicated than I even thought. Oh, great. Okay. Paul, why do I feel like if I looked at your screen right now, it would just be an eBay auction for a country bear?

A country bear arm and head. I'm almost there, guys. Just shut up. I'm almost there. So Zeb claims Ted to be the reason for the band's disestablishment, but Ted claims that he held them together and that no one was grateful as the other members were all busy letting their personalities and habits get in the way. Habits, weird. Barry reminds him that they claimed...

I still don't understand. Oh, sorry. So I thought what happened when they leave the tour bus in that field...

thought what they were saying was that the wedding singer bear was too obsessed with like getting the stage work right he's like what's the set we don't know the set we gotta get our set it seemed like he was just concerned with like the technical elements of the show um but maybe he was tired of doing all the work and having none of the fun well we know what that feels like pfft

She's right. But they seem to be doing a great show. By the way, can you steal a joke from another movie? Because in the beginning of the movie, they have an amp that goes to 12. The joke in Spinal Tap is it goes to 11. They didn't steal it. They heightened it. Oh, okay. Right, okay.

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And read into this what you will.

Is Dan Aykroyd involved in this movie at all? Great question. Great question. At one point I'm like, is that his voice? Is it possible Dan Aykroyd is involved in this movie somehow? It makes all the sense in the world. I agree. When I heard a voice that sounded like Dan Aykroyd and I was like, now I get it. Now everything adds up. This is some sort of Aykroydian fever dream come to life. Do you think that- Some crystal skull bullshit. Do you think-

Do you think that maybe he turned down a part? I mean, because he could have been rip-polling the Alex Rocco part. The other thing that occurred to me was I was like, this, you know, in talking about it, really, there are so many similarities to the Blues Brothers, to what the Blues Brothers even, like, central storyline is, you know? Having to do something to raise money to save the thing, you know, the orphanage in the first movie or whatever. Like, these are all the tropes of these movies that, like, I feel like, is Dan Aykroyd behind everything?

And are we safe? Everything in the world? Are we safe? Am I okay? Am I part of Dan Aykroyd? He killed the dinosaurs. Is this his Truman Show and we're living in it? Oh, God. By the way, when I type in Dan Aykroyd, country bear, he did have a run-in with a bear in the movie The Great Outdoors. An 1,800-pound bear, they call it. Oh, wow. Does everybody know what they're supposed to do when they see a bear?

Yeah, you're supposed to get as big as possible and make like a lot of noise. How would you do that? Run it for every bear. Oh, for, okay. Oh, all right. Hold on. Not for every bear? We're learning a lot. Not for every bear. What do we got? And you're supposed to stay still, right? Not for every bear. You're not supposed to run. Oh, okay.

So I don't know which bear is which, but for certain bears, you should climb a tree because they can't climb. Other bears, like, don't ever climb a tree because they can climb. Some don't turn your back on. Some make a ton of noise. There's a lot of different ways to approach different types of bears. So how would you approach Barry Barrington? Punch in the nose, I believe, is sharks. Yeah.

How would you approach Zeb Zubler or Barry Barrington? Paul, we were in this situation. Do you remember when we went on that hike? We weren't in this situation. We were talking about what we would do. We were trained and prepped. Did we kill a bear? Yes. We killed a bear. Are you guys like out there like-

What is that? Are you guys like getting trophies? Are you out in the world like secretly big game hunters? I've never heard a bear. June and I were walking around a lake at a wedding and you were afraid that there might be a... Because we had been told there were... That year alone, a number of people had died. Okay.

by the hands of bears. Were you guys killed? Not hands, but okay. I think it was a number of people had seen bears. That's not true, Paul. That's not true. A number of people had died from bear attack? Yes, this was a huge problem at Yellowstone. The campers were leaving. But we weren't at Yellowstone. Right.

We were not there. We were at a wedding. Wherever we were. We were in Maine. Wherever we were. It was a problem. We were walking around a lake that was near a city. What are you talking about? Remember that? No, we were in Wyoming. All right. So wait. Just to finish June's story, how did you get away from the bear?

Well, I took preventative action, which is the biggest thing. And just was, we were both really loud because we knew there were bears around. Now, we didn't really have to be nervous. We were screaming. Is this just a cover of Fight You Guys Had by a Lake?

Is this whole episode an effort to cover a fight you guys had by a lake that you're worried is going to get out there? And so you're reverse engineering an excuse? We were very loud by a lake in Wyoming, just so people know. We were screaming at each other. We were screaming at each other in order to scare a bear. June, I don't mean to let you down, but these are the bear attacks that have happened since 2014. Four. Four.

In North America. That's a lot. There have been four deaths. That's a lot. Four deaths from 2014. That's four human souls. Yes. One in 2014 in New Jersey, one in 2015 in British Columbia, one in 2017 in Alaska, and one in 2017 in Alaska. So there weren't a lot of people killed by bears in Wyoming. In Yellowstone. Well, we weren't even in Yellowstone. Wherever we were. Okay.

June didn't want to become a new staff. So we were walking around speaking very loudly. Knowledge is power, June. Knowledge is power. I don't remember. I remember being told that a number of campers had been attacked by bears that year.

And an attack is different than a death. That's true. Maybe they didn't die. Maybe they didn't perish. Well, if I saw a bear, I would kind of act like Christopher Walken's character, who, let's get into it, the MVP of this movie. There's only one person who can act against a 15-foot tall bear flawlessly, and it's Christopher. I thought his performance was next level. Incredible.

He felt like he gave a shit. I mean. He gave us all of the emotions. Oh, he's the, you know, he's the antagonist in the movie. He's the person who is intending to tear down the Country Bear Barn. What's it called? Hall. Country Bear Hall. Which I kind of thought was like a Studio 54 of the time. Maybe. Maybe.

How so? Yeah, I just felt like that was the place. Like trays full of cocaine while Jade Jagger does a line of blow off Andy Warhol's finger. I kind of feel like that's what was going on there. And, you know, I felt like it was like a hip-hopping spot. People go out to the woods, get freaky, get wild. Yeah.

Because here's the thing. I felt like Barry Berenstein, not Berenstein, that's the other Bears. Barrington. Barrington, Barry Barrington, leaves his suburban adoptive home with Stephen Tobolowsky and family, which to me seemed like he lived in the suburbs of Chicago. Yes. And the Country Bear Barn, or Hall rather, seems to be in Louisiana? I mean, yeah. It seems like he got on multiple buses.

to get to this location. And it took him a long time to get there. By the way, the bus stops seemingly in the middle of, there's no town. Yeah. It's just a lone structure and a bridge. And the Haley Jalazman bear runs home.

He does. And then he seemingly takes a gigantically long bus ride back because you see him out the top, you see him out the side of the window, but then his family's inside and they're taking pictures. Like, I almost feel like at the end of the movie, they could have pulled out and shown us like a kid playing with, no, a kid playing with toys. Yes. And I would understand the logic of this movie. Waiting on line to get into the Country Bear Jamboree ride. There we go.

at Tokyo Disneyland with his dad. Listening like me. Oh, it's your origin story now. I understand. See what I'm talking about? I get it now. I'm misunderstood because I am a bear. I am a shaved bear. Oh, God. I'm a shaved bear? Oh, God, the auction's ending soon, June. Stop it. I'm a shaved bear! That's the T-shirt right there. This world...

has forced bears to shave. Topolowski is a bear. Is that why we're watching this movie? These bears let their hair grow out. You know what? I knew this was pro-bear advocacy on part of Paul. I heard rumblings that he was a shaved bear this whole time. Finally getting the word out. Wow. This is shocking. By the way,

Are bear years, are bears aging at the same rate? Ooh, good question. That humans are aging? What do you think? Well, when Haley Joel Osmond Bear spoke for the first time, I was shocked. Because seeing his face before he spoke, I thought, that's clearly a teenager. But he's a fourth grader. He's a fourth grader. Oh, I didn't put that together. So much older.

Wait, so a fourth grader ran away like that? Exactly. That's what I'm saying. He's a child. All of the antagonists were not bad people. Yeah. Like even Christopher Walken, he said that the Bear Hall, they were six years late in rent and in payment. That's not bad. And all he wanted to do is literally crush it. His office, again, the funniest scene in the movie where he has a giant anvil that just crushes multiple copies. That was hilarious.

It's really great. All he wanted to do was drop an anvil on it. That's all he wanted. That's all. That's a simple desire. Can't we all live in a world which we can drop an anvil on places that we don't like anymore? Yes. Oh, no. I want to play. I just want to play that. If no one is making that a meme.

It's one of my... It was so good. So you see him at his desk and he is getting ready. It looks like he's getting ready to masturbate ultimately. He has his pants off. With slippers on. It's a full masturbation allegory because it really is like the thing comes down and he's like, oh yeah. He checks that no one's there and then this is what happens. People sleeping in broken rooms.

He takes out his anvil control. Oh, no! Oh, no! Oh, no! Country black hole has been crushed! Oh!

It's such a good scene. It's really, I was just happy. I was so happy. It's just perfect. I want to play almost every one of his scenes because he's also dressed in a way that I'm like, what era is he from? Oh, yeah. He's wearing almost like a zoot suit. Yes. You know? Yes.

He's dressed like he's a gangster from the 40s. Yeah. From the 30s, you know? It's a bizarre, but again, it's Christopher Walken who is the most compelling person to watch on screen. And what is happening at the Country Bear Hall? Nothing.

Nothing. Nothing anymore. Nothing. They're giving tours for 25 cents. Oh, yeah. By the way, I would like to just point out one thing. June and I did a show called NTSF SDSUV. We used Country Bear Hall as one of our big sets in our show where we go back to Alaska. Alphonse, one of our characters in the show, is an Alaskan special agent. And this is...

is his home base station. Stephen Williams was his boss. And when we went there and shot, all the memorabilia from the Country Bears movie is still up on the walls. So we'd have to carefully shoot in a way that you wouldn't see bears playing the drums because all the pictures are bears playing instruments. Like all the cages are exactly the same, like the ticker ticker cage and stuff like that. That's...

I love that. That's amazing. Like, I wish that I did any sneak through. I would love that Easter egg. No, we covered a lot of stuff because I guess in their mind, they're like, we need to keep this standing. We need to come back to it because of the sequels. So we've been there, you guys. We've been to that place. That's so cool. Why in the Country Bears band is everybody a bear but the drummer?

The drummer is MC Gaming. Right. Who is living in the tour bus. Yes. He said he raised his children in the tour bus? He did say he raised his children in the tour bus. But yet he's... But the tour bus has been like in the barn, I think, for years collecting dust. So I don't know what that story is. Hmm.

But I didn't understand. If you're going to have a bear playing a mandolin, have a bear play drums. I'm so upset. I just did a movie with MC Ganey, and the fact that I couldn't talk to him about this movie in great detail really bums me out. We talked about a lot of stuff. Really? And this would have been... Because it would have been amazing. Can you imagine his life many days on set was...

Him alone and a bunch of people in bear suits. And not hearing dialogue. All you would be hearing is grinding of gears. Because this movie is completely dubbed. It has to be. Oh, if you listen to that Christopher Walken scene again, Christopher Walken's dialogue is all captured live. And the bears all sounds like canned and from a studio. Yeah. It is audio wise. It's so jarring.

But the chicken turned out to be a female chicken. Yeah. And so that's important and comedy. Sure. And by the way, we talked about a bunch of the great cameos. I thought Barbara Bush was great in this movie. She was that small part in the country club. Wow. Just, I thought she was great. What? She was really good. R.I.P. Yeah. She's...

Not with us anymore, Paul. That was un-bear-like. I just want to clarify some comments I made about those bears. Real bears before and deaths.

recent deaths of people by bears in no way do I blame the bears okay sure this goes back to your monkey stance yeah I just want to say that no bears are just being bears out in the world bears are always being bears but by the way this is a June this movie should make you feel very happy because you've talked about not using animals against their will to be stars of films this is not using animals against their will and that chicken oh that chicken that chicken

But at least the chicken wasn't the star. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, the chicken was there for maybe a day. No, no. Two days maybe. Two days? Two days of work? Yeah, the chicken was there quite a bit. The trainer was there every day just to make sure that he was coaching the chicken the right way and make sure the chicken would be able to sit. I thought the chicken made a couple choices that were good, but otherwise gave a pretty weak performance.

Before we get... I just thought he was like oftentimes acting really scared. She, please. She was acting really scared like a chicken. Well, obviously we had some opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinions. It's now time for second opinions. The movie was a piece of shit. Yet this person recommends it. Tell me what is the message?

All right, it's now time for second opinions. These are five-star reviews called from Amazon.com. There are 178 total reviews for the film. There is 71% are five-star reviews. 71%. That's a very high mark. This first one's from Andrew Aceves, and he writes this.

It doesn't follow the music or the style of the old Disney attraction, but the old Disneyland show was stupid. I can't imagine sitting through a stretched out version of the Disney show. It would never work as a standalone movie. This was really good. Disney.

John Hyatt wrote and performed most of the bear songs and they were honest and straightforward. Really, really good music. They had to be aging 70 rockers in order for the script to work. I liked it. I will watch it over and over again with my kids. Think almost famous, but with bears. Five stars. Oh my God. Wow.

I would love it if it was more almost famous. I would love it if the bears were like... A bear journalist? Yeah, and it was like... Yeah, if the Haley Joel Osment bear was a bear journalist and that they were like big rockers. Yeah. Yes. They're jumping off the house. That would be interesting to me. I would have loved to have seen a movie where these bears...

Are actually living just at this country bear hall and then have to go on the road and tour in the real world. It's the monkeys with bears. That's exactly right. Yes, but not if the monkeys were monkeys. If the monkeys were actual monkeys. It's the monkeys were bears, but were monkeys. Right, exactly. We needed more bears. Yeah, I mean, there's so much comedy there in just seeing these bears interact with the real world. Right.

Oh, my God. Like, the funniest. Literally the funniest movie has been made ever. Paul, do you have my five-star review in there? Yeah, there's a couple. You wrote a lot. You equate for 40% of these five-star reviews. This one is one of my favorite reviews I've read. This is from Skick, and the title is Clean, and the review is simply this.

I got this from my 74-year-old mama. She loves it. She is happy. I don't like the use of the word mama. So I am happy. Wish I could find one that would work the same for my wife. Enjoy. Five stars. Wow. This one's from Willie Frazier, and it's Country Beard, Past, and

Country Bears is a movie every home TV should have for Friday night family night. Five stars. Oof. Every Friday night you'd be watching this? Every Friday night? Can you imagine meeting someone and being like, what was your childhood like? Oh, you know, I'm pretty normal. Like, you know, grew up, couple siblings, you know, suburban American small town. Every Friday night we'd stay in, cook dinner, and watch Country Bears. What? Sorry.

You're one of my favorite movie country bears. We watch it every Friday night. I'll end here with this one from Melissa Reckhart. She writes, my daughter loves this movie and so does my boyfriend and so do I. Five stars. Wow. Wow.

People love the country sensibility of this movie. People get it. We clearly didn't. Those human eyes looking back at you. I do not like those eyes. I did not like their costumes. Anyone want to take a guess on the tagline? Bear budget? The tagline? It's got to have bear. Country bears...

Barely keeping it together. It's a good, I like it. Very good time. Really good cool-up. I really like this. I like the cool-ups going. Anyone else want to take a shot? Anyone want to take a shot? There's two. One great, one not so hot. Ferociously funny. Oh, I like that tune. That's good. I love that you went off the bear track.

Ferocious as of there. So there is one moment not to. Yeah, you can. There's one moment in the diner where one of them does growl at the other one. Right. But it's too bear to bear. It's yeah. It's a bear to bear. It's not bear to human. But it still seems like, oh, wow. They still have those bear instincts. OK. The tagline of the movie is.

They're legends, barely. Oh, okay. Okay, and then that's followed by the other one. It's a bear getting the family together. Ugh! And by the way, yeah, that one is- I didn't think the word bear would be used in the tagline after country bears. Country bears, they're legends, barely. These fucking maniacs, I'm surprised there's only one. You're right. Budget, 35 million. Ay-yi-yi! Opening-

Opening weekend. $35 million. In 2002. 2002. Budget 35. Opening weekend. $5 million. Worldwide gross, $18 million. The top three movies of 2002. Spider-Man, Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers. Star Wars Episode II, Attack of the Clones. And this movie came in 116th of all the movies in 2002. It was beaten by Triple X and Crossroads. And this movie beat Jason X.

and The Adventures of Pluto Nash. How is it that these are all movies that came out the same year? I don't know. They seem like they're from different eras. By the way,

By the way, before we wrap it up with final thoughts, I just wanted to point out one thing. Their escape in the car wash was not a good plan because it only was a good plan because the cops got out of their car in the car wash. Why did the cops get out of the car? No reason to. I think they were looking for the bears. Yeah.

But the bears had to have been ahead of them in the car wash. Or why didn't they just drive to the front of the car wash? Because the problem is once your car gets locked in, your wheels get locked into that motor, you actually cannot drive forward. I want to ask you guys a question. Okay? And I don't want to bring up anything whatever, but if for some horrible reason one of your children were to go missing...

And these two police officers came to your home. Ham and cheats. Would you feel them capable of finding your child? Would you believe in their abilities to find your child? Did it seem to you like Stephen Tobolowsky and his family were doing everything they could do to find their full...

fourth grade son, 10 year old son. And let's just be called spade a spade and say that one of them is clearly wearing a fake mustache, which is revealed to be a fake mustache. So it, it wasn't even like a movie choice. It was a, it was a comedy choice. Yes. That's June. Are these men that you would let? I, June always says, you know, she's kind of like, you know, she's, she kind of, uh,

It's the bad cop. I'm the good cop. So I would probably be very open to them and try to ingratiate them. I'd be baking for them and giving them some nice food. And June, what would you... I mean, it's hard. I pay my taxes. Of course you do. You know, I...

I'd like to believe that that money is going toward city services, local services. Would you be shocked to find out some of it's going to mustaches? Some of it's going to comedy mustaches? A special case where the mustaches are encased. Multiple mustaches. And again, we're not done. And I just want you to not put you on the spot. It's not about the police force. It's about ham and cheese. You could request maybe another pair. I'm certain. No, I think the bigger point is like, do you believe in the systems in place? Why are they the only two? Do you trust them?

Why are they the only two people looking for a missing fourth grader? I mean, I have to suppose that the police force has some sort of training that they're vetting these guys before they're able to put on a uniform like that. Would it be local police, too, to do a kid or a runaway? I mean, it felt like it was a cross-state line. Yeah, it did feel like that. But it also might have been local.

We don't know. The police get... Again, they're in the diner with them. He walks back to his home. Yeah. At the end of the day. He walks back. That's after he's crossed state lines. The first time, this kid who's obsessed with the country bears, that's the first time he went to the hall? If it's just the next town over? I don't know. And it barely... I mean, if he can walk to it, why take the bus there in the first place? Which leads me to believe that MC Ganey's a very bad driver who doesn't understand how to navigate around town. I could believe that, yeah. I mean...

like to believe that I would as a parent also take to the streets I believe that you would you're proactive it did not appear as though they did did not appear as though they did they were literally chilling at home yeah and Dex had all the answers I really feel bad for Dex and even though he had that horrible hair which we you know frosted tips frosted tips was the 90s I think he it was 2002 will frosted tips come back

Will Spiky Frosted Tips. Guys, he's a shaved bear, okay? He's an old shaved bear. I felt this way looking at that singer too, Crystal Harris or whatever her name is. That hair. There was something about the early 2000s and late 90s where it was like we were trying to make people unattractive. Yeah. And succeeding. Yes. Like the goal was like let's take...

An attractive body. And give it severe angles. Let's add severe angles. Yeah, like just really low jeans. Yeah, let's disorganize this. But floods. Weird proportions. Not floods, rather, a bell box. Like they were very wide. Yes, yes.

let's take a nice figure and put clothes on it that make no sense. Look no further than Justin Timberlake to see how ugly you could make a person who is so attractive. But because there are other eras, like the 60s, the 70s,

You couldn't go wrong with putting clothes on people. And something happens. Even stuff that feels dated or feels whatever still works for those people's bodies at that time. For sure, the lines make sense. Yes. Your eyes can rest upon. Yes. You're right. The late 90s and early 2000s are a hodgepodge of nonsense. Disaster.

But by the way, I believe now that style to be coming back in full force. I know. That's really upsetting. Like, it's really weird. Where do you see it presenting? Here's the one that I've seen now repeated again. I know how you feel about high-waisted jeans on women. But I understand. I made your point. I understand the concept of high-waisted jeans. I'm in them right now. I bet. I bet.

I haven't noticed. I haven't noticed. I don't look. One of the looks that has come back recently that I've noticed, which I believe my theory is that this look has returned because young people are watching Friends on Netflix. Yes. And the look is a sundress with a white t-shirt underneath. Yes, that look is coming back. A bunched up, ill-fitting white shirt underneath a light

sundress. It is preposterous. It's crazy. It makes no, you're, you, what you don't understand is in the back, the shirt's all bunched up and doesn't, it's not good. It looks good on camera. No, no, no. When people are wearing it out in the world, I feel like they're like, dude, dude, dude, dude. I wore that look. Sure. Everybody did. Can we post a picture of that? Contempo casuals, June. Contempo casuals. And I wore it with Doc Martens.

Thank you. And I wore my hair in like two, two like,

on the side and I wore brown lipstick. Cover girl coffee bean. Yes, I did that. Cover girl coffee bean. Of course I did that. Was there a lip liner? Or Revlon coffee bean, whatever. Was there a lip liner as well? Brown lipstick. Sometimes I would do lip liner. Can you imagine brown lipstick happening right now? Brown lipstick on white women is... Oh, it's so bad. Yeah.

It literally looks like you've dipped your lips in shit. And then presented them. So in this instance, the person has dipped their lips in shit. They've not eaten shit. No, no, no. They've dipped their ladies. They've liquefied it. And they're just dipping their lips ever so gently in this shit. Dipping their lips in shit. Well, how do you guys

feel now that the with that in mind overalls are back oh 100% on board alright I love overalls really I love overalls would you wear a pair of overalls to me oh no but I find women in overalls and I'm going now jumping I'm jumping back because this

is an aesthetic. This was a style that I, like when I was in college, girls wore overalls. I totally agree. I loved it. It has like a tomboy-ish kind of, it's like a Mary Stewart Masterson in some kind of wonderful. Love that. Yeah, yeah. That's who it is, right? There's a bunch of like those that I'm like, ooh, I love that. That works for me. I mean, I also like little kids in overalls too. We have Paul. It's like weird.

I love kids in overalls. There's another look that's coming back. And I think this is because of Friends. The baggy jeans that have a waistline that is neither high nor low, but sort of in between a big black belt. And Doc Martens. Doc Martens are fully back. And then a flannel just wrapped around. It's very like Khloe Kardashian and then a white tee. It's not an attractive look.

Guys, if I told you. We really got into it. We really got into it. I'm so happy. What's happening? I'm going to give you. What if we, what is this? Are we still recording? Like, it would not surprise me to look down and notice that we were at lunch. Is this still a podcast? Oh, if I told you this movie ended with Christopher Walken putting his hand under his arm and making fart noises, would you have believed me at the beginning of this film?

And I... Another great scene. I think this movie has like four or five solid jokes and that end performance of him arm farting... I did not see it coming, you guys. Oh, I did not understand that that was the villain. I was lost in the narrative. And the fact that he committed so hard. I'm sure he only did like one or two takes, but he did it. When he unbuttoned his shirt, I thought he was going to have a tattoo that says, like, I'm the number one country bear fan. I thought he was going to be a bear. Yeah. And no. No.

He was going to full hair, full fur. That was amazing. It was interesting. He was wearing a t-shirt under his shirt. So there's no way he could have been making those farts out. Well, he's really ruined it for me. Very good. He was excellent. He was excellent. He was great. Jason, would you recommend this movie? No, no. I mean, watch like 20 minutes of it just to be like, Oh, what the fuck has happened? And by then you'll have come so you can go to bed. Please watch that. Oh,

Oh no scene. I think that's one of my favorite scenes. Cool up. Would you recommend it? No, no, no. At 88 minutes, you even feel it's too long.

Yeah, yeah. You know, I would have loved it if it shaved 10 off. Oh, yeah. 78 you're in. June, I know you went into this movie with negative thoughts. What do you think now? Would you recommend this movie? No, of course not. Okay. I really struggled with the time. 88 minutes. I kept on stopping it and looking and just not enough time was gone by. We took a big break in the middle of it. And Paul, would you recommend this movie? Yeah.

Probably not. No, it's not. But as a shaven bear? As a shaven bear, we didn't get to the issues that are out in the public. We need to say stop shaving yourself to fit in. Be the bear that you are. Yeah, be that bear. Oh, man alive. I am so upset. One thing I did notice. Do you think this movie is an allegory for like the gayness?

gay bear movement? Interesting. That's interesting. Not movement, but like for men who identify as bears in the gay community. Did this movie start there? I don't think so. I think bears have been around. I think that's been a descriptor for a long time. All right, cool up. Your movie, Origin Story, is available right now on Amazon Prime. It is...

It's been amazing to watch this film from its inception to where it is now. Can you tell people about the movie? And, you know, I know we talked about it briefly at the top, but just tell us a little bit about it. It's been a five-year journey. It's autobiographical. And it's me finally, after 20 years, starting to ask the question of who and where and whom do I come from? Because I found out when I was 14 that my dad...

wasn't my real dad in a really horrible way. Um, and it takes me from here in LA, uh, not with Jason, but, um, he's not part of this. Again, we're talking about sequels. There is not a possibility like this scene. We can be recreating the country bear fashion conversation. That could be a great scene in the movie. How many bears are in the movie? Just the one. There is a bear. And it was just cause he does my hair and it's not like to do. It's a hair bear. Okay. There is a hair bear in it. Um,

uh, yeah. And then it takes me to Minnesota, no bears there. And then all of the bears are in Laos, uh, where I meet my father. Lay ocean bears. That's right. Sun bears. This, this movie, uh, while it does lack bears and country bears is, uh, it's just incredibly well done and it's really beautiful and it's so impressive and such a unique story. It's, uh,

Just awesome. And it's been amazing to see all these festivals and the accolades that you've been getting for it. I think that you will really enjoy it if you see this film. Yes, I would encourage everybody to see it today on Amazon because it's incredible. And it's so timely, I think. And it's just...

an unbelievably well done documentary. It is. You are now in a position to turn off this podcast now that you've listened to it and literally turn on, you can on your phone or your computer, get on Amazon, watch this movie, take footage of me in other movies, edit it into this movie. Please put TikTok man

into Orson's story. Let's get this going. And this is from the Hollywood Reporter. It says, Coolop takes the Barry Barrington journey as she tries to find out who her real father is. Wow. That is inspiring. And that was a really beautiful review from the Hollywood Reporter. Like a modern day Barry Barrington. Yeah. Well, I...

you know, it's sort of like that whole idea, you know, everything, the power of myth, Joseph Campbell wrote about the Barry Barrington and how you have to, yes, we always are looking for that Barry Barrington journey. Who's in the mirror, Barry Barrington. It's so great. So check out origin story on Amazon prime video right now. Thanks guys. All right. Now, Jason Manzoukas, that's me.

What do you want to plug? So if you're hearing this, I am still in John Wick 3. John Wick Chapter 3, Parabellum. Please go check that out if you haven't already. And then what else? I did an episode of one of my very favorite podcasts called Binge Mode recently. It was very fun talking about Game of Thrones and Harry Potter. Two of my favorite things to talk about. And then...

There's a band I would like to say that, for me, the song of the summer is Mannequin Pussy's Drunk 2. It is a great song. It is an amazing anthemic breakup song. And I would just like to encourage everybody to crank it while their windows are down and they're driving through town. How wonderful.

I don't know if Longshot will still be in the theaters by the time this episode drops, but if it is, you should definitely check it out. I'm in that movie. As is Paul. Yes. Yes. Am I in it? Seth Rogen. Jason, you are not in it. So I'm not in that and I'm not in origin story. Not in origin story. I mean, these are empirical truths. So I just want to make sure that because a lot of the listeners are keeping track of what movies I'm not in. And then I also have a book coming out that I co-wrote.

Yes. Called Represent the Women's Guide to Running for Office and Changing the World. Woo! Cool Up is definitely referenced in one of the dedications, and so is Paul. Jason is not referenced in the movie at all. Cool Up was one of the early readers, and Paul was too, but I guess Jason... Well, I can't read. I can't read.

So I don't mind this one. This one, I mean, it stings. Yeah. Right. But I get it. You understand. It's just not your medium. No, no, no. It's just how could you? I'll look in the page for the Zs because I know what a Z looks like. So when I see the Z, then I'm like, that's probably me. Yeah, but I'm just going to let you know right now that

Your name definitely doesn't come up anywhere. Okay. But the book is available for pre-order right now, also on Amazon, or even better, your independent local bookstores. And I don't want, I want to encourage, I want to specifically state that I don't think people should boycott the book because I'm not in it. Right. Thank you. Very generous. I think in fact they should get it and write my name into it. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Wow. All right. Well, you can do that. You can do it. The book is a workbook, so you could put Jason's name in it. Yeah, there are several writing sections. Is there an audio book? Is there an audio book? There will be. I'd love to read a chapter in the audio book. Great. Great. You can definitely check out the Cosmic Ghostwriter Destroys Marvel History, which is currently on stands. And you can watch Black Monday all now in demand or...

Or if you're in the UK or Italy or even in the armed forces, Black Monday is now playing on your local TV on Sky Atlantic and the Armed Forces Network. All right. A big thank you to Nate Kiley for the research. Devin Engineering, the hell out of this. Our producers, Cody and Avril.

and everybody here at Earwolf. We will see you next week for a mini episode. If there's anything that we missed, anything that we didn't talk about, give us a call at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. I'll answer your questions about your life, your problems, and this film. And we will talk about this and more next week on a How Did This Get Made mini episode. See you then. Bye-bye. How Did This Get Made? Earwolf.

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