Milk Money LIVE! (w/ Casey Wilson)
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♪ Here's a real question for you, how did this get made? ♪ People of Los Angeles, welcome to How Did This Get Made. I'm your host, Tall John Shear, and today we are talking about the 1994 Melanie Griffith, Ed Harris, rom-com, children's movie about a sex worker and a scientist. Woo!

and really perverted kids. Boy, oh boy, we're gonna all break it down, but let me just give you a brief idea of what this plot is. First of all, I'll say this. It feels like this is a film adapted from a very famous French film. It's not.

But it feels like, oh, no, no, of course this works. No, it's a movie about a young boy whose mother died in childbirth, and he longs having a mom, so he also wants to see a real woman naked. So him and his friends raise $100. We'll get into all of that. Go to the city to find a sex worker,

find her and then somehow take her home and then tries to get her to marry his widowed dad. That's the movie. Wow. Okay. It is a child's film. I think it was made by Disney and watching it, I am shocked on so many levels. Just when you think it can't get weirder, it does. This is like Ari Aster could have made this movie.

This is Bo is Afraid for night, like, by the way, look at this, like, put this in the theater now. You'd be like, holy shit, A24, you've gone too far. But you know what? We will break it all down and I will do it with my co-host. Please welcome to the stage, Mr. Jason Manzoukas. What's up, jerks? How we doing, Largo?

So, Jason, you and I roughly, you know, we're in a similar age group. I remember this poster. I don't ever feel like I saw this film. Like, it felt to me like it was too young for me, even though I was old. Like, I would have been the perfect age group for it. I've never seen this movie. Okay. Didn't know this movie existed. Got it. Full stop. Okay. This movie is like a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup movie. Yes.

This is you got your stepmom in my something wild, right? This is a combination of something wild, the Jonathan Demme movie, where Melanie Griffith takes a young Jeff Daniels down the rabbit hole of insanity and crime and stuff. Except in this movie, the Jeff Daniels character is a little boy.

I will say it felt to me like working girl for kids with sex work. Like that's it. It felt like there was an element of that that I was like, oh, this kind of works. It's stand by me, but present day at the time, but with a sock hop. This movie is a real Rubik's Cube. Instead of a dead body? I don't know. We're going to break it all down. Instead of do you want to see a dead body, it's do you want to see boobs?

We're going to continue to break this down, and I have to do it with my other co-host. Please welcome to the stage Miss June Diane Raphael. Thank you so much. Welcome, June. How are you? I'm well. How are you, Paul? Very well. Thank you for asking. June, you and I watched Milk Money today, and at many points, we were ushering our children out of the living room. Like, get out of here. You can't watch this with us. Yeah, it was...

There were many times watching it where I thought, like, I'm going to be put on a list and I should be like I I need to tell people I saw some of these scenes. You know, I need to come clean. I saw it. I watched it. I had a flashback, a hint of a flashback while watching this movie. Oh, did.

didn't we do a movie where Patricia Arquette seduces Joe Gordon-Levitt, who's also a tiny child? Yes. I don't remember that. That was a movie where... And that was Leonard Nimoy. This is Richard Benjamin. Yes. Like, what's up with these weirdos? I don't know. I truly, because also, you know, I'm a coach, you know, for a soccer team and I've been fingerprinted and I

I want to go back and let the authorities know, like, take another look at me, you know? But I will say, if I'm being fully honest, the most I've ever cried at a How Did This Get Made movie was this movie. Me too. When we get to it, the number of times I wrote in my notes, I'm crying, question mark?

I'm sobbing? At the end, my notes say, I am wrecked. Listen, Jason. When she hugs the backpack, I was like, no. Stop, stop, stop. Listen, don't get me wrong. Again, I want to be background checked now, but I...

I absolutely loved this movie. Same. I absolutely loved this movie. Hard same so much so that, Paul, I'm going to need you to bring out our other guest. Yes. Because she's the one who introduced she. We've already revealed one piece of it. Here's what I'll say. For those of you listening, for those of you here in the theater, a couple of years ago here in Los Angeles. Audible gasps. We did a show where we talked about

A movie about a young girl finding herself through an imaginary friend. The movie was called Drop Dead Fred. It was a battle of wills, Team Sanity, Team Fred, and not since... I need to understand how you're going to define Team Fred, but we'll get into that because I think a lot of people who define Team Fred are actually Team Sanity. Anyway, the thing that I will say is, since that show, this guest has not been on this show. People have assumed that this guest...

was not allowed back. They were right. The truth is we needed to find the perfect film. You know her as a member of Team Sanity. You also know her from her incredibly successful podcast, Bitch Sesh. Please welcome Casey Wilson! Casey! Casey!

Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred. Guys, I know we are here to talk about milk money, but I just want everyone to know I could do five more hours. And here's what's interesting. And I do think I do think we need to address this to kind of clear the space and clear the air because we have some Palo Santo to burn.

I do want a new experience tonight, and I want to start anew. Yeah, I don't want it to be antagonistic. I don't. We're already, Paul, the way Paul has set the chairs. I know. Has set us against each other. I know. But. I will, yeah. I mean, there's a lot to unpack here. It's hard because just to, I haven't even seen Casey since that night.

I've not seen her, and just to see you right now makes me so furious. But Jason, Jason, Casey is one of my very best friends in the world. Thank you, Casey. Oh, I'm so mad, though. I know, and you have to, what you have to know, and audience, what you have to know is that after that night, Paul and I drove separately to the show, and I got in my car, and I called Jason.

And we did some time together on the phone. There were a lot of texts going on between the four of us. We talked numerous times over the next few days. It wasn't a normal show where you go back and it's like, that was crazy. But like, ha, I was in the parking lot like, fuck them. Yeah.

They didn't get it. Everybody who came to the green room after the show had a very strange experience with us. They were trying to find charcuterie and we were just like packing up angrily. We were kicking them out. We're like, we don't have time to see guests. Yeah, Mitch. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, Mitch Gerrits. Get the fuck out of here. That was really horrible. Thank you for the art. He's so amazing. And, you know, he saw our most toxic scenes.

Oh, yeah. Unfortunately, that night. I wanted to start this one off a little bit differently because we had a great listener to the show. He has a legitimate beer company. It's not made in somebody's house. It's called Wrong Crowd. And it's the Where Does the Butt Start Pale Ale. Wait, what?

What are you talking about? Well, I will pass these out. I have four of them. I can have cups as well. It's a legitimate. We Googled it, so this is not poison. I was just going to say, this feels a lot like poison to me. I wanted to make sure you don't have to. Just because you give it to me on stage doesn't mean I'm going to drink it. Wow, wow, wow. But what I love about this beer is, and I got cups of people and want them. What I love about this beer is, there you go.

It is weird as the boat. Is that when you drink it, you really get the sense of being and how did this get made? Because if you look at the bottom of the can, it says right there, clear as day, Team Sanity. What? No! No!

Oh my God. No. I wanted to. I will not drink that. Get out of here. Nice try. Nice try. Nice try. What does it have in it? Insane juice? A person who named their beer, where does the butt start is Team Sanity. Yeah. Okay? Fucking idiots. I'm so mad, Paul, because what I wanted to do, I really wanted to, I wanted to start off differently.

I want to start off differently with Casey, and I want everyone to know that Paul and I talked a little bit about that show, but not that much. Jason and I spent roughly 12 hours recapping it and honestly processing it. Casey, you and I have never talked about it. No, and I don't even want to look at you. It was literally like we never spoke about it again. Never ever spoke about it once. Nope. I had a headache for two days.

I was hoarse. I was hoarse. Yeah. I have to say, you know, tonight is a healing space because, because something else happened that was so surprising. Obviously, Casey revealed herself to be Team Sanity, which is one of the most shocking moments of my life. But I also today watching. A real insane moment. A real insane moment. Watching Milk Money. I've known Casey since she was 18 years old. I've never heard you speak of this movie. I love Milk Money. Thank God.

And I love Milk Money, too. Eyes filling with tears as they're talking about it. I also love Milk Money. I loved this movie in a way that was like... I especially felt... This is healing. It is. That's what I'm saying. I think you brought Milk Money... But I think we love it in the right way. Oh.

Look, I got a lot of questions. I think June and I love it for the right reasons. I have a lot of questions about it. Now, Casey, you said to me, like, this is one of your favorite movies growing up, right? And this is a movie that you saw, so I really want to dig... In the theaters, go on. Okay, I want to dig into what that was like, because seeing it as a child, my biggest question was, who is this for? I don't know if this is for...

Boys, girls, 13-year-olds, 40-year-olds, widowers, or... This is a real four-quadrant movie. It is odd. It's an odd movie because... It's what if Porky's, but for Stand By Me, also pretty woman, but also... Terms of endearment. Yeah. Yes.

I mean, like in the beginning, when the boys are in the treehouse and he's like, and I'm going to put in this box of members, the sacred shoe box, a picture of a dead mother.

I was like, okay, where are we going? By the way. Oh, yeah, go ahead. Well, I have a quote there. We're not three minutes into the movie, and I hear one of the most beautiful quotes I've heard on screen. One boy says, I don't know what it's like to have a mother. Another boy says, we can tell you. And he says, the other boy says, you can't tell somebody something like that. Yeah. Wow. It's a gorgeous film. It is. It is.

It is. There's a lot of great lines. There's a lot of incredibly beautiful lines. Yes, from the writer of Free Willy 2, the god of great lines. I'm sorry, but I am. But then there are also scenes where a bunch of eight-year-olds appear to be watching porn. Yes. All right, wait. Hold on. I want to go back to this box. Which is cool. Because this box

This box is very high concept because I guess what I understand with a box like that is like a time capsule. Let's put things in here. We'll look back. Things we don't understand. They're meant to be things, right? What we understand in the world is time capsules. We're going to put our own mementos in here and years later we'll see it. In this movie, it's like we're putting things that we don't understand in here.

And we'll revisit it later to be like, oh, we were dumb. Is that the premise of the box? I would much rather they return to the box with more knowledge than test things out like a travel drinking cup. AKA diaphragm. That is a diaphragm. By the way. You like put it away until someone notices. And you know what? Frank does know what it is. This is a moment. And I didn't realize this until much later. Diaphragm's not really into the culture as much as I guess it was. But there was a movie called

It was a movie with Robin Williams and Peter O'Toole, like Club Med or Club Paradise. Thank you. And Club Paradise. And at one point, Robin Williams says, oh, you got a bunch of diaphragms in your pool filters. And I said to my dad, what's a diaphragm? He goes, you don't have to worry about it.

You actually do need to worry about it quite a bit. It was said so shockingly that it's always been burning my head. Like, what did I say? Like, I just, we were watching a movie. I didn't understand what was getting stuck in the pool filters. And he was like, you don't need to worry about it. And then I knew a diaphragm is like a breathe, like you breathe with your diaphragm. And then I was like, how is that in a pool filter?

And my dad worked at a pharmacy. And then one time I was in the back room getting something from the back and I saw diaphragms. And I was like, what's in this box? Shouldn't these be in the pool?

Diaphragms to me, that's the first time I've seen one. But to be fair, Paul, your dad was right. By the time it came around, you didn't need to know about diaphragms. Dad didn't have to worry about it at all. They were RIP. It's like saying to this crowd, did you know about sponges? No. Yeah. It's gone though. It really did make me think. Diaphragms were crazy. The idea of having to put in, because my question was always,

when do you put in a diaphragm? Like, just right before. I think right before. Wow, that's... Can we get... Is there a diaphragm? Somebody who's used a diaphragm? Any diaphragm users? Does anybody want to speak for the diaphragm? I mean, listen, I guess it's so different than putting on a... I don't understand how it hooks in. I don't understand. Paul, let's... Paul, let's take that. Paul, let's take that. I'd love to examine Paul's... The hand motion that Paul did when he said, I don't understand how it hooks in. Oh, God. Oh, God.

Like a brock? You fold it like a menstrual cup and it expands. It expands in there. So you don't put it in just like trying to shove that thing in. But because of what that kid was holding up, I was like, that's it? Like, again, I haven't seen it. You got to fold it and make like a little C shape and then you insert it and then it opens. Yeah, got it. Okay. I thought that you just kind of like, I thought like at the point of entry, you just drop it in front like, yep.

It's like, it's like. Wait, you thought you put it on the outside of the vagina? Yeah, I thought. And then you put it on. Like a dental vagina? Yeah. June, you put it on the outside. You breathe deep. Well, that's what made me think I could understand how you would ever do it. You know. Of course. Because one mouth is connected to the other.

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I will say, there's so many things about this movie. The premise, though, the beginning premise is these kids have access to a lot of porn. They're not only watching... Where did that porn come from? The dad? Which one? Not in Harris. Wait, do you... No, the dad who used... Oh, of course, that dad. Of course, that dad. Well, all right, so I wanted to just show some of the porn because at a certain point when... Well, no...

Wait. What's happening, Tom? Paul, no. Paul, we're going to respectfully say no. No. You're going to learn a lot about me tonight. Hey, get ready to flip that switch about team sanity, team friends. It's where the butts start here. This is Largo. Look, I have to defend Paul no matter what tonight. Thank you, Casey. I'm with him. You're drunk on team sanity beer.

But here's what I'll say. It's like these kids, their collection of porn is massive. And it seems to me their lack of understanding of sex with the amount of porn they have access to is imbalanced. Like even when they're watching the thing, they're like, that's elbows. Like keep it playing, buddy. Like,

Because when they're... I didn't even turn it off at the best part. Yeah. Because here we go. Wait, do you have that movie? No, but like, it was like, I just sort of felt like it was interesting.

It was getting somewhere. We were about to get there and they were like, turn it off. We do need to find Melanie. This is the porn. I want to be very clear. We're talking about a movie. You're talking about porn as if it's the porn of today. He's handing someone a Frolics magazine. Frolics. How about this one? Nurses in bondage. Playboy.

Yeah, these are very... 1994 porn wasn't like the Stone Age. It wasn't like, you know, a pinup girl in black. Like, oh, I'm wearing a bra. Like, it wasn't that. But some of this is that. You know, it is. There is a... I guess I liked that they were... This also reminded me of... Was it Good Boys? Yes. The Good Boys? Right? Yeah. In a way, too, because there was something about, like, this kid's selling all of his porn online.

is in school. He looks like he's got zines. He's got magazines. He's got a homemade porn zines. He's got VHS tapes. This kid's running a full business. There's a line up and down his hallway like there was a sneaker drop. No teacher in sight. They do a good job, I felt like, at least for Frank especially, dialing in a genuine innocence that I believed or that I was on board for. I totally agree. I mean, listen,

until um melanie griffith shows up at the house the movie is utterly insane and i don't know why i really don't know why they need to see because they've seen naked women they've seen well that's what i'm saying the idea is like what but they need to see one in person you know there's and then why she goes with them and then she does it you know and you have you all have to sit with

that. Yeah, we all saw that. That's right. That's what we have to contend with. That's what we're up against with milk money. That moment, first of all, them coming into the city, I thought this is the best representation of a city on midday. It's neither like it's daunting but cold. They ride their bikes to the downtown of it. What is it? Indy. It's Pittsburgh. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah.

I have a very strong history with Pittsburgh and Mannequin 2, but I will tell you this much. But they walk in and it's like... Speaking of where does the butt start? Yeah, that is. But that idea, when they get there, it's like, oh, it's dangerous, but it's also not like... It just feels like adult in a great way. I like the way they presented the city. Oh, the kids were shockingly out of place. Yes. To me, in a good way. And I was like, is this the movie? Yeah.

I genuinely thought this was going to be a kids when their bikes get stolen and they're stuck in the city. I was like, oh, is this going to be the fucking movie? And I'm on board for it. Yeah. No, they go straight back. Well, listen, we need to get to Ed Harris. Oh, yeah.

Because it's one of his best performances. Absolutely. It's the most open I've seen him. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I agree with this. I agree with all of this. He is. This is to me, I'm picturing him going to work on the Apollo 13. I'm tying this into Apollo 13. This is him. As he comes home. No, I feel like this is the only Ed Harris performance that I've ever seen where he seems emotionally lost and bereft. Oh, it was Pew. He feels lost. It was Pew.

Like Ed Harris in the greenhouse with Melanie Griffith in pajamas all muddy. I was like, he's got it. That scene and the two of them together in those pajamas muddied. I was like, with those dog footprints. Oh my God. They really were very messy. Compared to Ed Harris in like Westworld or National Treasure 2, which I inexplicably just watched. Yeah.

It was a beautiful performance. The best moment, though, I think, is when he eats the microwave dinner on the lawn. Ugh.

With his son, and they're racing who can eat the fastest. A great family. They are so good at conveying the true desperate heartache of these two, like that they are this pair that feels lost in the world. I cried when he was taking the laundry out. No, I've never done the laundry for my children, and I'm a mother, but it still got me when he was taking it out himself. As the person who does all of Casey's children's laundry...

That scene resonated with me. By the way, June got so angry with me the other night. You're going to speak about laundry. Careful. I want to keep this night light. We'll cut this out of the podcast. Team laundry. What are you going to say, Paul? Because I know what I do. I said like this. I said to June, I said, I like doing laundry. And she's like, you like doing laundry? And I was like, yeah. And she's like,

And walked away. I've never seen such disgust. What do you like about it? You say they like domestic work and doing these household tasks. I do think there's something a little off about you. But do you mean... I do. Did you mean it in regard to... Because I would say I like doing laundry more than the dishes.

Like in terms of choice ranked? No, that's not how he was saying it, Jason. It wasn't. I like doing the laundry. Period. I like laundry. It's fun. I tried to get you to go to the movies the other night and you were like, I've got a load of whites in. Don't get me started. Like when we go on a vacation, he's barely in the hotel room. He's barely arrived at the place we're about to go to. He's finding a laundromat? He's starting to load.

Got to get a load in. What could we be laundering? Well, Jason and I had this debate just the other day. You weren't a part of this. It was part of last looks. Okay. All right. And we can maybe throw it out to the crowd. Casey, I'd like you to be an impart. I won't tell you the side of it. If you are packing for your children on a seven day vacation, how many pair of pajamas are you bringing your children? Hold on. Hold on. For me, four. Four. What? What?

And June? Maybe five. Eight? Eight. Seven day vacation, eight pair of pajamas. What? On vacation. Why would I do laundry there? Because I can wear it two to three nights each. And she says no. She says no, no, no. She looks at me like that. For someone who doesn't like to do laundry, that's quite a request.

I believe pajamas, and this is a fundamental difference between us, I believe pajamas are a single-use wear. You wear pajamas. Audios, insane. If anything, they're the most used wear. Yes. Of all our clothes. I'll get a pajama top. I'll get an undie. Yes. A week. Yes.

What are you doing? You're just sleeping in it? I'll go one step further. When I go on vacation, I pack zero children's pajamas. Zero. Because I am childless. You're doing so much. Wouldn't it be weirder if I was like 11? You're doing so much sweating. You're doing. You're doing so much. You're the most cleaning.

The minute I get into a hotel room, boom, boom, boom, 58 degrees. You don't sweat. I like it cold too, but there's things that could be happening. June is treating like sleeping as if, yeah, you just got done at the gym. So you take off your clothes and you pop them. Yeah, they're the most clean they've ever been. I am an active sleeper.

And our children have woken up a few times with like, and come downstairs with like wet heads. They're sleeping so hard at night. Well, that's because they're in like flannel pajamas 90% of the year. They look so cute in them. We live in a desert climate. They look so cute in them.

And we've also had battles about this. They're so dehydrated. June wants them in very tight pajamas. Because of fires, house fires. You think loose pajamas are going to cause so much friction they'll start a fire? If a child wakes up, no. If there's a fire, you've got to get the kids out quickly. I don't want them to catch a flame. I want...

I have seen them. You think they'll be that close to the fire? I've definitely seen your kids in a tighter cut. Yeah. Do you have them? Do you buy, okay, so do you buy regular pajamas and have them tailored? No, I like them. No, I don't get them tailored. She'll be like, if they're in eight shoes, like put them in a six or a seven. What? She knows that she can't defend it. What? This is my moment. I've never had this many impartial judges.

Thank God we've never been in a situation where we've had to rush the kids out of a burning house. Of course not. But every night they're in too small clothes. Injustice. My children look like sausages at night. They're like, in all of my dreams, I'm in a spider's web.

I'm stuck in a cocoon in all of my dreams. Sometimes when I put on their pajamas, I'm like, give me... You put them on yourself? What? Nothing.

Just imagine them. Just imagine the entire house in flames and like, we gotta go. And I'm, we are grabbing a child and we're running through flames. It could happen. Okay. Okay. Well, the other, I mean, to me, yeah, I mean, if they're so close, if they're so close to the flames that a correctly sized pajama is

gets ignited, then they're just too close. You guys don't know. It's this. This could be the difference between life or death. It's not. It's not. But I've also never seen kids' pajamas that have a bell-bottom like that. Don't your kids sleep in boot-cut pajamas? Low-rise, boot-cut pajamas are back in style. Holy shit.

Anyway, this movie, Milk Money. Clothing plays quite a role for me when I watch Milk Money. There's a lot of triggering scenes where, you know, I'm just, I couldn't help but think of the mother that passed.

Casey, I knew you were going to say. She's rolling in her grave. She's got her son just jonesing to get the dad fucked by Melanie Grebex and just pulling out her old dresses and just giving him. I was shocked. It was shocking. It was shocking. And Ed Harris, I said to Paul, this was a very disturbing moment between the two of us because we watched it together. And when Ed Harris didn't recognize that dress right away.

I was so fucking angry. And I said, Paul, if another woman walks down here, stands in front of our home, okay, with my clothes on, and you don't recognize them. And he goes, you have so many.

I found it and I loved Ed Harris in this movie and I loved his character so much, except for that. He did say when told, I thought it looked familiar. But she wears them again. She puts on a different dress. Oh, she wears multiple dead mom clothes. That's absolutely inappropriate and weird. Wait, but let me ask you a question. And I'm asking this again. I'm opening myself up to a lot of ridicule here.

I don't find her outfits to be that, like, provocative. Like, when we've seen other representations of this profession, you see, like, a lot of maybe leather or this. I think it's because in this movie, she's got a body for business. Okay, all right. And a head for sin. All right, so that's basically... So basically, just because she has... She's got that body. Just because she has... Because, like, people are looking... Like, when she comes into the school office, she's wearing this outfit. Like...

it's a fine outfit. It's like, it doesn't feel overtly like, but isn't that the dead mom's outfit? No. Oh, Jason. Jason, that's her uniform. Jason, those are like her fatigues. Like she's in those day in, day out. That's just standard issue. It is? Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

Her clothes. When she goes into the school, she's wearing like a bodysuit. Now, I was like, was that the bodysuit? I gotta be honest. Her clothes in the city are a blue micro dress. Love that dress. Right? Incredible. Velvet. Insanely beautiful. Hot. Crazy. And then once she gets, then she's got the tan overcoat, right? Sure. Yeah, the trench coat. And from then

It's the dead mom's clothes. No, it's only from when they added. Jason, what? Hold on, what? Jason, she's wearing like almost, she's wearing. This audience is surly. Noted, team sanity. She's wearing essentially. That's a team Fredder right there. Yes.

She's wearing like a very Ren Faire type of look in a way. It's like it's corseted and it's a little like olden days and... But she really turned heads in it, if you'll recall it, and every extra was like, boom! Well, yeah, those women in the office are like, fuck you! Like, they hate her. And everybody in town, when she walks down the street in town, everybody's like, boom! Boom!

I thought she looked amazing. I would have turned my head as well. Incredible. I thought she looked amazing. Everybody's so hot in this movie. Ed Harris has never looked better. Ed Harris needs a little bit of a messy hair and an untucked shirt. I like him like that. Well, he's got an untucked shirt right there. Yeah, I like him like that. Oh, no, he's great. That's not the greatest shot, but no, I think that's a great picture of him. You know who I thought was so cute? The guy who held the gun on the two children. What?

At minute 13 of the film. But that was fun. There's so much. There is. There's so much. And we're talking about it like very sweetly. Like it's a very almost wholesome story in a lot of ways. And especially because we go, there is a gritty city component, but then we quickly leave it behind for an almost Pleasantville style. It's like a gal who wants to live in a sweet suburb. And so much so that we're also participating in the nostalgia for the 50s.

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My favorite two parts of this movie...

are the arguments between Anne Heche and

blank. Anne H and Casey Simansko in the beginning where he goes, you're not a person. She goes, she's kind of a person. She's not a person. She kind of is. She's not a person. She kind of is. And then later on with Malcolm McDowell, he's like, you're not worth a bullet. And she's like, I am. He's like, you're not. I am. You're not. They let that go on for so long. I'm like, one person couldn't just mix it up a little? Yeah.

but that's what i loved about it i love i really did i was like oh this is so weird and interesting and her defending not how much she's worth really but just that she knows she's worth more than a bullet and i was like god damn it i loved her character i would pay such good money to see a movie just focused on her

I was, when she was dancing outside that sock hop, I'm like, this deranged nutter butter. Oh, yeah. I love this woman. So at 14 years old, she ran away. Melanie Griffith. Melanie Griffith, yeah. Yeah. Well, we don't get to know. That's what's interesting. That's it. We don't get to know anything. Because I think. We don't know much about Eve. We don't know much about Eve. But the movie is all about her. It is. It is. It is.

Unspooled? But I think this is not unspooled, Jason. How dare you? Oh, this isn't unspooled? No. Yeah, that's right. This is fun-spooled. I think the reason is, of course, if we were to learn more, and I wonder if they cut it out, it would... Get too dark? Please release the director's cut of this movie.

You know, and I have to imagine, because what I really didn't understand about this movie, and I loved it, and this is not a critique. This is a question. God, no. Because we're putting it into the AFI list. We don't want to critique it tonight. Not tonight. I would legitimately put this in the top 5% of movies we've covered. Absolutely. You know, it only got 12...

I agree. I mean, I had intense emotional reactions. What else are we looking for from a movie?

I laughed a lot, too. Like Kathleen Kennedy, like that had a sheen on it, that nostalgic sheen that we kind of grew up with. It didn't have any Amblin-y stuff. It didn't have any like... Oh, no one's on your team tonight, sweetie. I know, and I know, and I'm holding my tongue a lot, but I'm going to say the big moment, and you can please don't be on my side, but not because I want you to be honest, but the way that they like go into making love...

That was tough. I'm with you on this. Go ahead. Him waxing poetically about his ex-wife and he's like... To me, it feels like he's like...

if I really focus, you'll be her. And that's it. Because why does this kid even want her to be his mom? They don't even know each other. She's done nothing. Oh, well, Paul. Paul. Paul. At the point that he's saying, yes. Paul. He's seen her breasts. No, he has not. No.

He's a gentleman. He ate Cheetos. Frank is a gentleman. I do wonder though what he connected to with her because maybe that's a deleted scene. How could you not connect to her? She's so effervescent and she's so warm. And this is one of her best performances, I think. So this is what it's like. What? Don't say it. Don't say it. When he says this is what it's like to have a mom, I was shattered.

This kid gets it. This movie. That's why I put it in the top 5%. You know what doesn't make me cry? The rest of the movies that we do, except for The Odd Life of Timothy Green.

No, this movie works on every level. But do you think, all right, if I'd seen this as a child, this movie would have felt like it was telling my story. I would have felt like, this, I want, how does this? You're Frank or who are you? Yeah, no, I'm a total Frank. I'm not the perv watching my sister shower.

And I'm not Kevin, who's like, I think having a home alone. He's like, this movie is also almost home alone. Yeah. Well, by the way, they do do this. They do a bunch of home alone kind of, I felt like, side references. Yes, with the bad guys. Yeah. It is interesting that we don't get to know that much about her. And this is where I really want to tip my hat to Melanie Griffith because we don't get to know. We don't understand what happened at 14. Right.

We don't really understand why she also wants to leave over and over again. Like, I was like, this seems like a great setup. Stay here. You got clothes. You got a treehouse. Yeah. That nice little treehouse up there. You got the wetlands. Well, I think that she's because she can't be honest with herself, right? She's living a lie. That's why she wants to leave. She doesn't want to live a lie. She wants to be Eve. Not V, Eve. But for her to be Eve, she's got to.

to admit to being V. Well, no, she, but for a lot of the movie, for a lot of the movie, she thinks that Ed Harris knows what she does for a living and accepts her. And they play that game out beautifully. That first scene, I laughed. And that's what we're talking about with Ed Harris. That scene,

like whatever that likeness is. I'm like, oh, he is great. It's an incredible performance. That scene in the hands of like, and I hate to put us all down up here and I don't mean to, but just so sorry, but like just a comedian, like it wouldn't, it would have played too jokey. I thought he played it gorgeously and I didn't mean to put you all, everyone so quiet. Why do we have to take it? I know. Why do you have to diminish us in order to? I didn't mean you guys

You're right. You're right. We would have leaned into it too much. It's a subtle touch. So you're saying that Jason and Paul, if in that role... And you. There you go. I think I could do an... I could pull off an Ed Harris in this movie role. I'd like to think I could, too. I'm worse more than a boss. I could pull off Malcolm McDowell. What?

Get over here, dummy. I feel like I would only get the opportunity to play Casey Somasco.

But boy, would I like to be Ed Harris. I would like to do one of those things that they did in that Waynes Brothers movie, Little Man, where they put my face on a child's body and then I would play one of the children. I do think you're right though, Casey. That scene for her too. And I shouldn't have put others down to make that point. I'm so sorry. That really was tough. I know. So I'm going into Netflix. You guys get to green light all the movies, right? And I go, all right, so the fun thing is... Paul, we're big fans. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much. Oh, we're big fans. We're so excited to hear what you came in to talk about. Love the podcast. Do you want any water, Paul, before you start? I got plenty of water. I used that little soda machine in the front. It was great. Do you want to get validated now? I talked to somebody out front. We got the validation. So when we get to the middle of the movie, we'll have the sex worker dress up.

cosplay as the dead wife, and then we'll put the dad and the sex worker up in the treehouse, and the dad will just kind of talk about how much he loves the dead wife and he's really not over her, and then they'll, like, fuck. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Will they fuck or make love? Yeah. Oh, sorry, make love. Because here's the thing. Here at Netflix, we're not interested in fucking.

We're interested in making love. But I mean, that is like what happens. Like, I guess I just feel like Ed Harris isn't over the loss of his wife. He just has never dealt with it because he put the photos up in the, you know. That's a win. She's giving him a window to get at it. She's pulling both of these buttons.

people out of the absolute devastation and heartbreak and grief and loss that they are in. She is a lifeline for both of them. It's true. It's hard to say that. And in lesser hands, it would have been an insufferable movie. I would argue that most people who saw this felt it was an insufferable movie. Wrong. These people are wrong. Just keep in mind, you're agreeing with Paul? What? 12% on the tomato meter. 12%.

Interesting. But I think those numbers are off if three of the four of us are in love with it. I know. Also, people are watching and they're trying to connect. Okay, I'll go there. Yes, I agree. Ed Harris is great. But there are some things that are fucked up.

Up here. Okay. We are not talking about... We are like a family. You know what, Paul? I was once told that there was a member of my family that somebody kept in an attic. And then we were like, wait, what? And they're like, yeah, we never talked about her. That's weird. But we, like, that's like the kind of stuff that's going on in this movie. Name like six crazy things that happen in this movie. Money where your mouth is. Like what? Do they let the kids drive a car? One working the steering wheel, one the pedals?

And then the steering wheel pops off. Right. Then they're almost hit by both two twin big rigs and then a train. How about this line? With an adult in the car who just seems to not be able to get over to get the wheel. How about this moment? When Melanie Griffith talks to three 12-year-olds and says, take off your shirts. Oh. Oh, good. You're not hairy enough to be dangerous. Yeah.

There was a cab driver. You were concerned? I love that line. If I'm that cab driver, I'm reporting that. The cab driver was reacting like I was. That is the part they would give me in this movie.

I would have been the wife of the guy who had slept with Melanie Griffith. I felt the same thing, Casey. I was like, that's my role. There it is. By the way, another weird thing that happens that someone in this town is actively using, like, has a little black book. He's like, oh, give me the... And we get a scene where he and individuals

scene where he, Kevin's dad, creeps out of bed, peeks if his wife is asleep, calls the escort service and bitches them out because Melanie Griffith is inexplicably in his town. He's like, hey, control this woman. She's in my town. And by the way, the escort service is just an age.

But yet Anne Heche and Casey Szymansko work for Malcolm McDowell who works for Jimmy the Pope. Everybody's got a boss, Paul. Did you not learn anything? In that moment though, why does that man get out of the bed and then redo the sheets as if he was never there?

To what end is he? Who is he tricking? His wife and him clearly went to bed together. He goes downstairs to make a call. If she wakes up, he wants her to think he never came to bed. Instead of, I was just having diarrhea. Yeah.

I found it fascinating, though, to your point, Jason, about what this movie tackles. Like, to have gone home with this gentleman, to have also seen the moment where his son realizes, after his dad is such a hard ass and so particular about this and that, that his dad is cheating on his mom. Dad is a liar. And is a liar. And the kid goes full pig pen. He does. This kid pig pens himself. Such a story. In Act 3. It was so funny.

I mean, Kevin, the third kid in the crew has a full arc. He really does. In act three, he goes full kick then. You know who I also loved was the actress that Frank ends up with. I did too. Incredible. I did too. The little brunette who's fantastic. She's wonderful. I didn't understand or I didn't see...

the lead up to that I was really oh it's in there it's in there oh she is pining for him it's baked in there but you didn't see it from Frank she wanted him I didn't see it from his I felt it was like we're watching through Frank's eyes so Frank isn't noticing her the same way the blonde isn't noticing him but really he is noticing her okay so what I thought or what I was hoping for was that what Frank was learning through his father really connecting emotionally with V was that

it was more important to see someone's heart first. I think that is right. That is right. Okay.

Meanwhile, I Only Have Eyes For You is playing, right? Like, it's the sock hop. I mean, incredible song, devastating song. He gives the leather jacket to the blonde, right? And then he asks the brunette to dance, and I start sobbing. Again. And I write in the thing, all caps and exclamation points, HE CHOOSES THE BRUNETTE! Ha ha!

I need to get you all into therapy. Were you identifying with the brunette? Of course I'm identifying with the brunette. Yeah, we all are. Never picked? Come on. And then a gunfight breaks out when a British man runs in there. Again, if you eliminate 47% of this movie, yeah, there's maybe some moments. You know what? What did your dad say? Don't worry about that. Yeah.

You know where else? Here's another moment I cried at. Another moment I cried at. Ed Harris, again, just incredible performance. But I really want to give it up to this kid, too, because when Ed Harris says, she's a Grace Kelly, isn't she? About Melanie Griffith to his son. I was like, and he's like, yeah. I was like, brr. She's not. She's not a Grace Kelly. Neither was the...

Neither was the mom, though, Paul. Neither was the mom. Why do they have to be a Grace Kelly? Can't it be, like, my wife? My beautiful wife? Wait, like Borat? Like, it's like, oh, the person I want, she looks enough like her that I will marry her. And then this person, by proxy? It's like it's a weird thing. No, no, no. It's like I wouldn't keep up these things. It's so hard to break from Paul, given the last show I was at. But you have to, Casey. Isn't it weird audience?

Thank you. Wait, is anybody on board for this? Can you raise your hand if you did like it? I just, just show hands. Who's on my side? Can we get, can we get house lights? Now, who's on the right side?

Very few. One-fourth. One-fourth. One-fourth. One-fourth. A few of them are more with Paul. I would love to drill down on the numbers and the data a little bit more. I will say for those listening, it is the beautiful people who agree with us. Majority rules, baby. I watched it and I was like, why are we doing this? This might be a moment for me to go out here with my people. Chase and I wondered that too. Let's see what they have to say because maybe they have a point of view.

Yes, okay, sir. How you doing? All right, what's your question? So, assuming that they're together at the end of the movie, two of his friends, his best friends, have seen his mom's breasts, and one of their dads has had sex with him. That's a really weird thought. I literally never thought of that. I never thought of that, but what I... Boom. What I loved... No, not boom. Boom.

You guys are so kept up in detail. You know what? You know what, though? Who cares? I feel like in small towns like this, that's the shit that's going on, man. Honestly, yes. If you ask around in your friend group here in Los Angeles, who here who's with someone that they're in love with has fucked one of that person's friends? I see one hand. One hand, and now I see his person that he's with. One hand, this is...

This man has put off. This is a hero. And here's what I'll say, and this is why I love Eve so much, is that she's not trying to be his mom. In fact, she says multiple times, I'm not your mom. I'm a friend of the family. I mean, she's behaving in a way that if she was his mom would be truly insane. But she's not leaning into that. He doesn't even know what his mom is. He has no time with his mom. Paul, he's learning. But that's not her fault.

He says, so this is what it's like to have a mom. But then she is his mom. But then she is his mom. No. No, she's not. Talk to me. Tell me why I'm right. I mean, aren't there laws against what's going on in this movie? For a reason? Name them. Name those laws. Name them. He's right. There are laws. She's not fucking this kid. No. And not only that. She considers it. What we are all doing. She considers it.

That's what we're not talking about. She never considers it. When he says teach my son how to fuck, she's like, okay, I guess. I'd rather fuck you, but I guess I will teach your son how to fuck. She doesn't teach his son how to fuck. She thinks about it. I forgot that too.

That's definitely something that happened. You're making this seem gross and it's wholesome. Okay, so first of all, team laundry. Second of all, we haven't talked about the classroom scene, about teaching the sex. Okay. Now this is weird. I'll give this one. I agree. We're not that insane. That one was weird. This is a bridge too far.

But here's the thing. Here's my problem with it, if I may. Please. My problem with this scene is Frank is failing this class. He needs this presentation to pass. Agreed. Why not? But he does it all with Melanie Griffith in the room and the teachers locked outside. And I would argue that what he's doing in the presentation is incredibly...

safe and sanitary. Like, he's not doing anything that's like... Are you worried it's not sanitary? Well, I mean, I mean clean. Like, it's like, it wasn't like he got in there and taught them how to fuck. Like, which is what that scene should have been. But what he did was... Oh! Expand on that.

What do you mean? Expand on that. What I'm saying is they treat that scene where he locks the teacher out like, oh, I'm now going to give you guys something the teacher doesn't want you to know. And what he does is just do a straight-up biology report with a human subject who's in a leotard. But the kids are...

Yes. But like what I'm saying is there's nothing. Yeah, but it was like, whose benefit is this for? Right. He needs the grade. He needs the grade. And that, that, that would have gotten him a grade. I agree. This scene genuinely makes no sense.

It really doesn't. Because she should have been teaching him how to fuck. There are, let's be super. I'm not saying that I want that. Wait, like that's like what it was. Paul, you keep coming back to that. I just want to say the person who agreed with Paul before, do you still agree with Paul? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Does Paul represent everybody here? What?

What I'm saying is it's written in a way that it's supposed to be scandalous, and it yet is not. Now, look, I had a sex ed class taught by my gym teacher where he put a dildo in the shyest girl's lunch bag. And while she... All right, I'll back it up. What? So...

There was this very nice girl. I think this is the kind of stuff you need to understand about how Paul receives a movie. So upset. Honestly, I was agreed. Yeah. So I went to a Catholic school and... This is why Paul had trouble with milk money. Really?

And our head of phys ed was teaching our sex ed class. And there was a very nice, shy girl in our class. Very shy. Oh, God. This is as devastating as milk money. Go ahead. This is worse. This is worse. I'm really upset. She went to the bathroom. And he was like, guys, guys.

Watch this. And he took out like this, like not in a very graphic dildo, but it was like something you'd show how to put a condom on, right? It wasn't like something like ballies and veins. Yeah, exactly. Okay, the audience doesn't need to scream veiny. Veiny. I appreciate you. Girthy. Girthy veiny. I know we're doing milk money, but try not to jerk off audience at Largo. You fucking creeps.

He takes this penis substitute and puts it in her lunch bag. Penis substitute? Penis substitute? Okay, class, I'll be your penis substitute. Your penis is out sick. I'll be your penis substitute. So... Now I'm on board for Saturday night. So...

She comes back into class and she starts to open her brown lunch bag and he goes, Patricia, what is this? And he then goes into her lunch bag and pulls it. Oh, what is this? What do you have in your lunch bag? Such a cool thing. So funny. I'm sure she received it the exact right way. Oh, this poor girl. This poor girl.

Now, we're all in on it because we saw him plant it. You co-signed that. Oh, my God. So you didn't speak up. I would have said, I'm sorry, that's mine. And then he went like this. He's like, I'm just joking with you. I put that in there. All right. Now, moving on to chapter two. Now, that's how he learned about sex.

Listen, I, well, here's what I'm not going to debate. There are many things that are absolutely inappropriate and against the law. And I didn't like seeing her when, even when she was teaching him dance, I didn't like seeing her dance over him. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. And I, you know, but I actually thought it was kind of creative with the thumbs.

That part of the dancing I loved. Honestly, I love the dance. When she danced over him in her skirt. Oh, that was crazy. But he closes, he does this again. But that's great for him, but why would she do that? And Drop Dead Fred looked up his mom's skirt. That was bad. Drop Dead Fred wasn't a real character.

Absolutely. Seems like he was. Let's not do this right now. I will go into this if you do not start. Hello, my name is Melissa. My question is, well, we've already touched on the fact that there was the kid hiding in the hamper and saw his sister naked in the shower. There seemed to be a few other incestual undertones, like when they said that Melanie Griffith's character was Ed Harris's sister.

And then the family was watching them from outside. And the mom was like, I wish you two would be close like that. So just curious about your thoughts on that. Honestly, I saw it and I heard it. Casey also has a very close relationship with her brother. Oh my God!

Is that why you like this movie? Is that why you like this movie? Because of the sibling relationship depicted between Ed Harris and Melanie Griffiths? My husband says my brother and I have the biggest will they won't they? I have heard you say about your brother that he's your lobster.

It's weird. So I also am very sensitive to that, especially with siblings. I don't like it. Okay. But what I appreciated about this movie and that scene in particular at the ice cream shop, which V will come to buy with $250,000, she'll also buy a convertible and all of the wetlands. It was 1994. You could get a lot. How much could the wetlands cost? Yeah.

The wetlands are $3,000. Ed Harris, sell your house. By the way, kids, sell that porn. Buy your dad the wetlands. Here's the thing. No one else cared about the wetlands except for him and V. By the way, that was a cute moment when he tied himself to his own truck. I really enjoyed that moment. It was so sweet. I love him so much. But so I'm sensitive to that. I don't like those kinds of jokes. I'm not interested. But...

Seems like you do on a bunch of occasions. Whoa! But in that scene, I actually was like, they kept on cutting back to that family, watching them almost make out, almost make out, make out. And I was like, wow, this is what's so special about the movie, the amount of time they took. Yes. With those reaction shots and that scene developing, because it wasn't just like a gross out reaction shot of like, ew. It builds. It builds.

It builds. It's a joke. It's a good build. Because what I liked about that was, yes, of course there's an incest joke. I did not like the incest joke about the kid watching his sister in the shower because that is bananas. I didn't care for that one bit. That's like straight up creep stuff, right? But this is a misunderstanding because of a miscommunication and a lie. They think these are brother and sister. And then the step-by-step, well, are you sure it isn't brother-in-law or sister-in-law? And then they start, I want you to make it there.

I thought that was also very funny. And we also get to, we get some backstory on that random family that these siblings are struggling. By the way, I want to bring our attention to something. Oh, I don't want to bring it, but I'll say that I've noticed, but you haven't raised your hand until now, or at least I didn't see it. We've had last night and tonight two wonderful babies.

here in the back of the audience. And I saw you all last night. People said, oh, you missed them. I said, well, I didn't want to call attention to it. But now you've raised your hand, so I feel like I can go over. The baby raised its hand? Oh, my God. The milk money is for everyone. Guys, the babies I have an update are so little. These are the littlest, cutest babies. How little are they? I can't even express how cute they are. They might be the cutest babies we've ever had. Oh, my God. I want it. Can I have one?

You've got two. I know you raised your hand, but how old are these babies? They're four months old. Four months, and they are cute, and they are twins? Yes, they're twin girls, and this is Evan Jane and her sister Elliot. Oh, my gosh. These are the best babies ever. Evan and Elliot? Can I have one of them, which every one you don't want? I truly can't get over how cute these babies are, like blowing the roof off of cuteness here. All right, so what is your question?

Well, first I just wanted to tell June that one of our twins is named after you. June, you got to get down here and check out this baby. You got to check out this baby. We need a picture, June. We need a picture. Paul, you weren't lying. They're absolutely beautiful. Two steps here. Two steps right here. Elliot June? Tonight's too much. What?

I love you too. Oh, my gosh. Paul. It's a pretty insane sight. Give me another baby. Get out of here. Get out of here. Go visit these babies. Wait, and so just for clarity's sake, neither of them is named after me? I mean, I'm on record as loving babies. This has been an amazing, beautiful moment. I want to make sure I get your question if you have one.

We had a lot of conversations about this movie, having four-month-old twins. And I was wondering, June, if you were to pass on, God forbid, and go to the big stage in the sky, and Paul somehow found himself in this situation, what would you hope he would do? By the way, this is a great question. We repeated Paul. And by the way, it's something that June and I talk about a lot.

We do. What was the question? The question was if you die, what do you want me to do? Would you like me to be in a situation like this? So it's interesting. I actually did think, well, we did talk about the clothes. I, I, I,

I will say it now and I'll put it down. No, I'll put it down, you know, for eternity and in this podcast and we all can hold Paul accountable. I want Paul to move on very quickly and find someone else. She says it very quickly. I do. And I told June, die alone. I do. Um,

Here's what I want, though, is like a full, I want a celebration. I want so much fanfare around the passing, and then I would like Paul to, he knows he has my blessing. But just put away my clothes and stuff. You don't have to clap for that.

What you're saying is you're fine with him moving on as long as he doesn't dress her in your clothes. I don't want my stuff there. In some sort of weird cosplay of you. And as long as I keep my children in tight pajamas. As long as you keep the kids in tight pajamas. And I would like a number of pictures. I didn't like that he kept all the pictures of her away. That felt really wrong. I'd like a couple wonderful approved photos. Oh, God. Oh, God.

And then live your life. Life is for the living. I would love if your will was just like, these are the approved photos. That's such a good idea. I'm going to do it tonight. I'm going to do it tonight. Thank you, Jason. Honestly, thank you, Jason. Guys, you're welcome. Here we go. One more question. Where are we at? Ed Harris was fully ready to go to jail. Who was going to watch Fring?

Oh, great question. Ed Harris is ready to go. Here's the deal. If you don't mind me saying, here's the deal. Frank's been basically on his own this whole time. That's true. Ed Harris is barely a parent. But by the way, also has no family, like no aunts, no anything. Like it seems like. Frank is, I would argue, Frank is in many ways raising Ed Harris. Ed Harris feels to me to be. That's a better title, Raising Frank. Is it?

The title is interesting. The title is unsettling. It's unfortunately sexual for how much the movie is based around boobs. Milk Money plays no part of the story because they do. Yes, it does. It's milk money. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

You said milk money is in no way part of this movie, except for when they say milk money. But milk money is like not even a, like they didn't sell milk to go see a woman's breasts. Okay, wait a minute.

Milk money doesn't refer to the selling of milk. It's the money you're given to buy milk at school, and these kids are buying porno with it. They're giving these guys their milk money. Like, hey, give me your milk money is what a bully says to you. Not the money you made selling milk. Hey, dairy man, give me your milk money. However much you've made selling that pasteurized mooshies. I was a milk attendant.

in my school. What does that mean? We're back in. I would go to the milk. I wish I was presently a milk attendant. All right, so I would go into the milk locker and then I would say, all right. The milk locker? The milk locker?

A big giant freezer. What? Or refrigerator. And I would go, okay, so Mrs. Meyer's class, they need 12 milks because 12 kids paid for that. And then I would boom, boom, boom. And then I would stack them up in milk crates and then bring them to different classes. That's what I call opening someone's bra. Entering the milk locker. So... Hear me out. But one of the things about being a milk attendant is you could shave some money off the top. Oh! But...

Do you know that the statute of limitations is up? I'm spring clear. You're skimming off big milk?

How much? How much? Because everyone, it was a dollar a milk, and so they would put it in the thing, and then you'd have all that cash. Okay, so now I understand how you misunderstood the title of the movie. Because for you, milk money is something very real. Yeah. As a milk attendant going into the milk locker and skimming off the top of milk sales, you're some sort of milk... That's...

This is some sort of milk embezzlement scheme. You're the Michael Milken. Come on. The Michael Milken of Long Island. I can walk away with a few bucks in my pocket and free milk. So you're also taking the milk for free. Chocolate milk, by the way, because you could have chocolate or regular. And I take the chocolate for myself. Wow. And you're lactose intolerant. Is this wise?

When I was a milk attendant, I didn't know it. You're the Henry Hill of your school's milk. You're like just a little taste off the top. Dude, when I went to school, so my dad worked in a pharmacy and I realized very early on that, like I said to my dad, I was like, can you order like a case of bubble tape and all these gobstoppers

And I would bring them and then sell them in my school out of my locker. I would sell. Oh, he's an entrepreneur. Yeah. I had wholesale candy in there and everyone would come. Boom, boom, boom. And I would think, you know, you get like a whole thing of bubble tape for like 12 bucks. Your childhood is like one of the kids in the movie. Yes. Which makes me confused why you don't like the movie. I think it's triggering.

Is it too close to home? Way too close. Well, then I also made deals with this kid on my bus who said his dad kept all of his porn in his locker and I would give him money and then he would free the porn. Then I would be able to distribute that porn to other people. What? Yes, Paul. What are you talking about? I think you have a lot of, Paul, I think you have a lot of Frank-like qualities. This is your life story. Yes.

I did bring my friends into New York City one time. We went to Show World with fake IDs. And then... Show World is a strip club. And I went there as a 12-year-old. Paul, you had a fake ID? Well, you went to the store and you got an NYU ID. And it said I was a college student, but I was only 12. And then you showed it to the people at Show World and they would let you in. I think they knew I wasn't in college. Oh, you think? Yeah.

You think? I like that there's a little, you're not quite sure. I was chewing on my bubble tea. I think they knew I was 12. I was selling gobstoppers. And there was a moment where I was walking around show world as a 12-year-old and this woman approached me and she said, do you want to watch me take a shower? And I said, no.

Paul, this movie is your life. Did you sign away life rights? Is that why you're mad you didn't make a cut? I just feel like I could have gotten some better moments in there. And I remember that moment because I was like, I don't want to watch you take a shower, so I'm going to wait outside Show World. And I hung outside Show World and talked to the bouncer for a long time.

While my two other friends were doing whatever they were doing. Watching someone take a shower. Before we got to show world, this guy was like, you want to meet a... This is crazy. He's like, do you want to meet a sex worker? And we're like, yeah. And he started to lead us down an alley. And at that point, I was like... This movie is your life. By the way, I just want to go on record.

We are two hours into the show. And only now are you inadvertently admitting and realizing this is your life story on film. I did not put it all together. And as we were walking down that alley, I said, this is bad. Let's go. And then the guys were like, where are you guys going? Where are you guys going? And I pulled my friends out and then we went to Show World. Yeah, the only difference is he didn't have a gun like this guy did. He might have.

We didn't go down far enough than the alley. All right. I feel like I revealed... Wait, can... Will you just let Tim ask his question? Of course.

Tim kept his hand up the entire time knowing that, okay, we were coming to the end. Tim, what do you got? I'm a school teacher and whoever wrote this movie has no idea how school works. The dance has zero security. You aren't allowed to leave your students alone to take a phone call. But what about in 1994? Yeah, well, I can't speak to that. In 19, when I was a kid, I mean, it was pretty freezing. It's Pittsburgh. It's Pittsburgh. It's Pittsburgh.

And she says that he needs to pull his grade up by giving an oral presentation with visual aids and footnotes? How do you give footnotes during... That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

I thought where we were heading with the class was that he was failing math. Same. And I was like, oh, actually, V is great at math. And we're actually going to come around to the fact, we're not buying an ice cream store. She's like, I'm going to start tutoring. I would have loved that. And here's where the movie is limited, right? Like we don't get to understand is what her goals are beyond motherhood or beyond just sort of like suburbia. If she has any other interests.

And so I'm wondering that the whole movie and then come to find out she's purchased an ice cream shop. And I was like, wow, wouldn't have... I didn't know she liked ice cream that much. Yeah, did they tap that? Like at one point was she like, oh, one day or anything? No! I think she just...

She also, by the way, this movie is crazy. She drives off at the end without the dad and the son. She's like, peace. She's like, I'll see you later. And they're like, are we going to see you again? And she's like, yeah, I own the ice cream shop. But that's what I loved about the ending was we didn't end on them together. But they are. The presumption is they will be. Of course. However, we're going to rewind and kind of restart. She needs to restart her life. And I thought that was such a

powerful choice. That was so radically undercut by the last line of the movie, which is from Frank. It is repeated twice and it is, I have a hair! I have a hair! And now he's dangerous. He rips his shirt open as if he can feel it growing. She drives off and he's like, it's happening! It's happening!

Watching his dad get fucked makes him go through puberty. She bought the wetlands. I write here. She bought the wetlands. She bought the ice cream shop. I'm sobbing. What is wrong with me? I wrote that in my notes. But I am left worrying about her finances.

I totally agree, Casey. I think she blew it all. I wish it was a million dollars, you know, even for that time. I know. I thought limited with $250,000. What is it, $94? $94 is a quarter of a million dollars. Here's the great thing about sex work. She just bought so much. I know, but she has something to fall back on. Plus, Ed Harris seems to be doing fine.

Whatever he's up to. They have a beautiful house. They live out in the suburbs. They're not living in a flop house in the city. They're living in the suburbs in a beautiful. They're living mad men life. What's that? Medical malpractice. Because of the dead wife? Yeah. Zoinks.

Do we know that? Deleted scene. Do we know that? We don't know it, but something obviously went wrong. Oh, yeah. Obviously. When Frank says that she died at the moment of his birth at the same time he was born, that he knows that, I was like, oh, this kid is breaking my heart. Yeah, it was devastating. I just wish someone would name a baby after me.

They haven't yet. But you know what? Obviously, there's a lot of opinions here, but tonight we're going to hear some other opinions, too. And now it is time for Second Opinions. Milk, money, movie, sex, positivity, normalize the body, and hash R.I.P. All the critics clutching their pearls. I'd give it five stars, I'd give it the world.

Sex work is work. Oh, sex traffickers are jerks. Grace Kelly wetlands, leather jacket, learn to dance. Freedom from Caligula, fresh start for a new romance. Second opinions, here's one from me. Certified fresh in 2003. Oh, slut shaming hurts. What's up, jerks? Sex work is work.

Suck his work. Thank you, Jen. Here you go. Thank you for that. Oh, great. Massive action. Thank you, Jen. Thank you, Liam. That was amazing. Jen, what did you put on the microphone? Oh, it's a microphone condom. Great. I loved it. It's a diaphragm. Yeah. Diaphragm.

All right, these are second opinions from Amazon. I noticed it because she put it just against the microphone and it got sucked right onto it. That's how they work. There are 775 total reviews. 80% are five star. Let's get right into it. 80% are five star. That's right. Only 2% are one star. That's right. From William L. Hendricks, he writes, cute.

Some funny, some serious. Melanie steals the show from Harrison Ford. Just a good, lighthearted story about how business goes. So I did want to read that end one more time. Just a good, lighthearted story about how business goes. All right.

Ramon Villalobos writes this. Was a little distracted by the children in this film attempting to render the services of a prostitute. Certainly this is not legal, but she seems to go along with it, question mark.

and the love story between the aforementioned prostitute and one of the boy's fathers. But as an environmentalist myself, I was moved by the story of one man's exotic attempts to save a marshland from the ravages of capitalism.

Five stars. Ed Harris thrills as a man almost blindly focused on his attempts to save a precious ecosystem to the point where he ignores his own son's longing for parental guidance and criminal activities. Very cute and should delight the entire family. Highly recommend. Oh, one minor critique might be the utter, U-D-D-E-R, lack of milk in this film. Whoa.

Five stars. You agree with that part, though. I do agree. There's not enough milk in here. As a milk attendant. Oh, God. Please write a follow-up that is a follow-up that brings this universe that's a Jeremy Renner movie called The Milk Locker. Yay!

This one is written by Ward. Very funny movie, and the acting was very realistic. There were many times when the man in the movie was saying something that was interpreted entirely differently by the female, which made for a very funny situation. The plot was very interesting and unusual. That classic man-woman scene there. It was unusual.

All right, so that's what we got, people. I mean, we really broke this movie down. Oh, I could go for hours more. $20 million budget, opening weekend, $5 million budget.

made $18.1 million, came in number 80 of all the movies of 1994. The top movies of- - 80. - 80, yeah. The top three were "Lion King," "Forrest Gump," and "True Lies." - It's a hard year. - Yeah, tough year.

It's a hard year to break through. This movie did beat Street Fighter, Ghost in the Machine, and Double Dragon, but it was beat by The Specialist, Time Cop, Disclosure, The Shadow, Junior, and Color of Night. A real banner year for how did this get made? Incredible year. Big year for us on the show. And some of the titles it was in other countries we've been doing this, Choosing Mommy, that's in Argentina. Yeah.

I'm so... Paul, I just didn't hear you. What? Choosing Mommy. That's Argentina. Cool. If somebody could just isolate that and make a song out of it. And in Greece, Jason, your homeland, it was called A Woman for Daddy. Yes! You would be shocked how often I say those exact words. In Turkey, this movie was called Little Womanizer. And in Canada, this movie was called When the Kids Get Involved. Oh, God.

That's very Canadian. So, I mean, I think I could tell from the way that you all speak of it, you highly recommend this movie. Yeah, yeah. You know, again, there's some scenes in the movie that should not ever be seen. You know? They should be cut. They should be animated. I don't know what should happen, but something should happen. Is one of those scenes when he says, I want to make love?

No, you know what one of the scenes is that's like absolutely should be like none of us should be able to watch is when the little boys are ogling the little girls walking into school and the camera gives us a POV shot. That's the shot where I was like, this I can't. Absolutely.

Am I in trouble? What is this? I shouldn't. Is this allowed? Is this a trick? Yeah, it was. Again, we have to know that, you know, we have to know that that's a part of this. We have to take responsibility. And yet. And yet. And yet. There are this movie really. I was really connected to the characters.

I love that they didn't end with her and the kid and the husband and the house. I don't even know if she's going to live there. I don't know where she's going. You know, I picture her living above the ice cream shop. And I think that's great.

I really do. And I just enjoy, I really enjoyed it. And it really spoke to me when she said, you know, what'd she say about where you can touch a woman and her heart? There's one special place. That part was a weeper. I cried. I cried then. I cried where she held the backpack. I will argue that the reason why he goes to, he's like, oh, that's where you touch a woman. He goes to touch his heart and he's like, a hair. Oh. Oh, I bet you're right. Yeah.

But he feels it through his shirt? Well, he's like, yeah. Well, June, yeah, you can always feel him. Oh. He's trying to finger his own heart. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wow.

Casey, it's been so lovely to have you back. Welcome back to the show. I'm so happy to be here. It was really healing. Thank you all so much for having me. It feels really good to be back and it feels like we mended some things. I think so. And I think we needed this time. To heal. And I want to give a shout out. This beer is incredible. It was really good. Genuinely loving it. Yes, this is from our friends at The Wrong Crowd. That's the beer company out of Chester, Pennsylvania with their Where Does the Butt Start Pale Ale. Yeah.

I wish I could drink it. And by the way, it says in the back, it says, what's up, jerks? We got a hot tip to try out experimental hop variety. Well, that goes on to about the beer. There's a couple of references to our show, but it's not enough for me to read the whole thing. Team sanity. But I appreciate it all. Casey, you want to tell us anything you want anyone to do? Oh, and do you want to reconsider any of your opinions on Drop Dead Fred?

Don't want to go back there, Jason. Fair enough. I host Bitch Sesh Podcast if you like Housewives and comedy. And I'm just so happy to be here and I really feel better about you two. Wow. Thank you. I feel better too. June and I will talk about it on our phone call later. I'll call you. We'll be there. All right. Thank you all for coming out tonight. Thank you.

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