In part two of our series on friendship, we’re looking at how to revitalize a relationship that began in a previous phase of life.

Michelle and Blair became fast friends in grad school. That bond survived graduation, marriages, and even a cross-country move. They now live just a short drive from one another—but things have never felt so distant. Michelle wants to know how to evolve their friendship to be more compatible with the present day. On today’s episode, Courtney Martin brings on Rhaina Cohen, author of The Other Significant Others: Reimagining Life with Friendship at the Center. Rhaina will help Michelle—and all of us—prepare for a daunting conversation.

Miss last week’s episode? Learn how to expand your horizons with new, cross-generational friendships. If you’re enjoying this series, check out our other friendship episodes:

How To Find Your People

How To Make Friends as an Adult

How To Make Friends… Like a Man

How To Talk to Strangers

How To Show Up For a Friend With Cancer

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