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棉棉的香海,和我们记忆里的上海

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棉棉:本书虚构了一个特定年代的上海,以女性视角探讨爱情、音乐与生活,男性形象模糊,更关注女性的感受与体验。小说中展现的上海是一个在特殊时期,充满能量、纯真却有层次的文化世界,它既可以很日常,又可以充满想象空间。 棉棉:我的上海更像是一个项目,从很小的时候就开始在写上海,开始在写我对虚构的理解,包括我对爱情的理解,我对男人的理解,这些东西它都很有意思,它都提供了一个完美的一个媒介可以让我去理解生活中什么是真实的什么是虚构的。我写的是没有日常生活的,我经常说我小说里的人物虚构是他所拥有的全部,除了虚构再也没有任何东西了。 棉棉:在加德满都的生活让我可以穿越到过去,看到90年代的自己,以及那个年代的上海。加德满都多元又放松的氛围,让我可以重新审视自己,以及对过去和现在的看法。 棉棉:写作对我来说很重要,我希望我的作品可以带给读者放松和快乐,找到不会消失的快乐。我不会为了让更多人知道我的作品而做一些我不喜欢的事情。 老硕:棉棉的书和邵一辉导演的电影对上海的描绘各有侧重,棉棉的小说更侧重于虚构和想象,而邵一辉的电影更侧重于现实和故事。 老硕:我96年因李全的音乐而对上海产生向往,98年到上海读书,在苏州河边感受到上海的时空交错和时代变迁。在上海读书期间,我大量时间用于玩乐队、排戏等活动,感受到了上海的轻松和活力。 老硕:我09年第一次去上海,对上海的印象是全球化、繁荣,以及一些文化差异带来的趣事。我的第一次夜店经历,以及后来学习街舞的经历,展现了对上海夜生活的复杂感受。

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What is the main theme of Mian Mian's new book 'The Woman from Xianghai'?

The book 'The Woman from Xianghai' explores a fictionalized version of Shanghai, particularly focusing on the lives of women discussing love, music, and art. It captures a dreamlike, almost surreal version of Shanghai, blending reality with fantasy, and reflects on the cultural and social dynamics of a specific era in the city's history.

How does Mian Mian describe the male characters in her book?

In her book, Mian Mian describes male characters as having blurred and indistinct features. She intentionally avoids giving them detailed descriptions, focusing more on the female characters and their experiences. This approach reflects her perspective on men and her preference for emphasizing the complexity of women's lives.

What role does music play in Mian Mian's life and work?

Music is a significant source of inspiration for Mian Mian. She often surrounds herself with musicians and DJs, and her social life in Shanghai was deeply intertwined with the music scene. Music not only influences her writing but also serves as a medium for connecting with others and expressing emotions.

How does Mian Mian view the relationship between literature and other art forms like music and film?

Mian Mian sees literature as deeply connected to other art forms like music and film. She believes that these forms of art provide different perspectives and inspiration for her writing. Music offers emotional depth, while film satisfies a sense of vanity and ambition. She often collaborates with artists from different fields, blending these influences into her work.

What was Mian Mian's experience with filmmaking?

Mian Mian found filmmaking to be a challenging and often overwhelming experience. She describes it as a process that requires intense communication and collaboration, which can be stressful. Despite her initial interest, she ultimately decided to focus on writing, as it allows her more control and solitude.

How does Mian Mian describe the cultural scene in Shanghai during the 90s?

Mian Mian describes the 90s in Shanghai as a vibrant and transformative period, especially in the nightlife and music scenes. Clubs like Didis and YY were central to the cultural life, blending techno, trance, and R&B. The era was marked by a sense of openness and experimentation, with a mix of local and international influences shaping the city's cultural identity.

What inspired Mian Mian to start writing at a young age?

Mian Mian was inspired to start writing at the age of 15 after reading works by authors like Liu Sola and Xu Xin. This exposure to literature sparked her self-awareness and desire to express herself through writing. She wrote her first novel shortly after and eventually dropped out of school to pursue her passion for writing.

How does Mian Mian view the concept of love in her work?

Mian Mian views love as a powerful and unconditional energy that drives human connection. She believes that love is essential for creating meaningful art and that it should not be conditional. In her writing, she explores the complexities of love, often through the lens of female characters and their relationships.

What are Mian Mian's future plans after her latest book?

Mian Mian plans to continue writing, with her next book titled 'I Haven't Lost My Blue Yet.' She aims to create a more relaxed and accessible work, moving away from the complexity of her previous books. She also intends to focus on supporting young artists and engaging in cultural projects that inspire her.

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本章节主要探讨棉棉新书《来自香海的女人》的创作背景和主题。书中描写的香海并非真实存在的地点,而是一个融合了上海特定年代氛围和女性视角的虚构世界,展现了那个时代年轻女性对爱情、音乐和文化的独特体验。
  • 香海是虚构的上海女性世界
  • 书中展现了特定年代上海女性的爱情观、音乐观和对文化的理解
  • 男性形象模糊,更关注女性视角和感受

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在我记忆里,如果把新千年到来前后的上海具象成一个人的话,ta就是棉棉。

作家棉棉(她不只是作家)做客坏蛋调频,我们从她新书里面的香海聊到记忆里的上海,回到那些曾经使我们倾注全部热忱的、新鲜而有趣的岁月:当千禧年到来之时,似乎什么都没发生;但今天回头望去,那时的日常仿佛变成了架空在时间里的梦,而今天的我们,则成了那个梦留在现实里的痕迹。

另外,请关注棉棉刚刚出版的新书《来自香海的女人》——还好我们可以一起做场梦。

本期playlist:

ARTBAT x Pete Tong - Age Of Love(ARTBAT Rave Mix)

木马乐队 - 舞步(2023不插电LIVE版本)

吴建京 - 东岸西岸

R.E.M. - Nightswimming