Guilt is often misunderstood because people confuse it with other emotions, such as taking on someone else's feelings. Dr. Kennedy defines guilt as a feeling that arises when we act out of alignment with our values, which is useful for reflection and growth. However, many people label feelings of pressure or empathy as guilt, which can lead to unnecessary self-blame.
The 'learning space' is the period between not knowing how to do something and becoming proficient at it. Frustration is the primary emotion in this space and is essential for learning. Dr. Kennedy emphasizes that frustration is a natural part of the process and that tolerating it helps build capability and resilience, especially in children.
Dr. Kennedy advises parents to help children tolerate frustration rather than immediately solving problems for them. She encourages parents to model how to manage frustration, such as taking deep breaths or breaking tasks into smaller steps. This approach helps children build resilience and confidence by learning to navigate challenges on their own.
The 'most generous interpretation' (MGI) is a framework Dr. Kennedy uses to approach behavior with empathy and understanding. Instead of assuming the worst, parents are encouraged to consider the most generous explanation for a child's actions. For example, a child hitting buttons in an elevator might be exploring curiosity rather than acting out. This approach reduces conflict and fosters connection.
Storytelling helps children understand and process emotions by providing a coherent narrative. Dr. Kennedy uses stories to model behavior, share experiences, and teach lessons without directly lecturing. This approach makes abstract concepts more relatable and helps children internalize values and coping mechanisms in a non-threatening way.
Ms. Edson taught Dr. Kennedy that if something feels too hard to start, it means the first step isn't small enough. Breaking tasks into smaller, manageable steps helps build momentum and confidence. This approach applies to both children and adults, encouraging incremental progress and reducing the overwhelm associated with big challenges.
Dr. Kennedy advises parents to model healthy emotional expression without overburdening their children. She suggests acknowledging emotions openly, such as saying, 'I’m feeling sad right now, but I’m still your strong parent who can take care of you.' This helps children understand emotions are normal and builds resilience without making them feel responsible for their parents' feelings.
Dr. Kennedy believes technology, particularly immediate gratification through devices, reduces frustration tolerance. She argues that the constant flow of information and quick rewards make it harder for children to develop patience and persistence. Parents can counteract this by encouraging activities that require effort and delayed gratification.
Dr. Kennedy emphasizes that parents should embody their authority by setting boundaries and guiding their children with love and protection, rather than exerting power through control or fear. This helps children feel safe and respected, fostering a healthy parent-child relationship based on trust and mutual understanding.
The 'Do Nothing' strategy involves staying calm and not reacting in heated moments with children. By not engaging in conflict or immediately correcting behavior, parents allow space for children to process their emotions and come to their own conclusions. This approach helps de-escalate situations and teaches children self-regulation.
In this episode, my guest is Dr. Becky Kennedy, Ph.D.), a clinical psychologist, renowned expert on parent-child relationships and founder of Good Inside), an educational platform for parents and parents-to-be. We discuss how to learn, embody, and teach better emotional processing, leading to healthier relationships in parenting, work, romantic partnerships and friendships. Dr. Kennedy shares practical strategies for managing guilt, building frustration tolerance, and nurturing emotional intelligence, as well as the impact of technology on emotional processing. This conversation aims to empower listeners to cultivate resilient, loving and supportive connections across all areas of life.
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00:00:00 Dr. Becky Kennedy; LA Fires
00:03:13 Emotions, Parents & Kids, Information, Tools: Story; “Right to Notice”
00:11:24 Sponsors: Wealthfront & Our Place
00:14:25 Empathy, Kids & Parents
00:18:33 Sturdiness, Pilot Analogy, Tool: Parental Self-Care
00:26:34 Emotions, Rigidity, Moody vs Steady Kids, Siblings
00:32:51 Emotion Talk, Crying; Eye Rolls, Tools: Not Taking Bait; Discuss Struggle
00:39:26 Parent-Child Power Dynamics, Tools: Requests for Parent; Repair
00:48:50 Sponsors: AG1 & Joovv
00:51:39 Power & Authority, Tools: Learning More; Parent Primary Job & Safety
00:59:16 Statements of Stance, Actions vs Emotions; Values, Behaviors & Rigidity
01:05:59 Guilt, Women; Tools: “Not Guilt”, Tennis Court Analogy & Empathy
01:15:46 Sponsors: LMNT & Eight Sleep
01:18:41 Guilt, Relationships, Tool: Naming Values Directly
01:26:06 Locate Others & Values; Sturdy Leadership; Parenting & Shame
01:31:36 Egg Analogy & Boundaries; Tools: Frame Separation; Pilot & Turbulence; Safety
01:39:30 Projection, “Porous”; Tools: Gazing In vs Out, Most Generous Interpretation
01:45:51 Tools: “Soften”; Do Nothing & Difficult Situations; Proving Parenting
01:51:05 Gazing In vs Out, Scales; Self-Needs & Inconvenience
02:00:05 Stress & Story, Nervous; Relationships vs Efficiency
02:08:46 Technology, Relationships, Frustration Tolerance, Gratification
02:15:18 Slowing Down, Phones, Frustration, Capability
02:21:42 Immediate Gratification, Effort & Struggle, Dopamine
02:29:25 Confidence, Board Games, Parental Modeling
02:34:04 Ultra-Performers & Pressure, Emptiness
02:41:29 Trying Things, Unlived Dreams, Frustration Tolerance, Tool: Learning Space
02:51:08 Learning & Building Frustration Tolerance, Tantrums; Feelings & Story
03:03:00 Tool: Using Story; Shame, Punishment
03:12:55 Leadership & Storytelling, Tools: Asking Questions; Songs & Learning
03:23:21 Miss Edson, Momentum, Tool: Small First Steps
03:30:15 Tools: Parents & Starting Point
03:36:29 Good Inside, Zero-Cost Support, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, YouTube Feedback, Sponsors, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter