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Dr. Sam Harris: Using Meditation to Focus, View Consciousness & Expand Your Mind

2023/1/2
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安德鲁·休伯曼
山姆·哈里斯
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安德鲁·休伯曼:冥想不仅能改变意识状态,更重要的是能让人观察意识本身,从而深刻改变人们与世界和自身互动的方式。这与我之前认为的冥想仅仅是改变意识体验以达到放松、专注、提升记忆力等目的不同。 山姆·哈里斯:自我的概念有很多种,其中一种是可以通过冥想来解构的,这种自我实际上是一种幻觉。冥想解构的自我幻觉,指的是人们感觉自己除了体验之外,还有一个内在的主体在体验。冥想的真正价值在于让人认识到“我”这种感觉是一种幻觉,从而获得更深层次的益处,而不仅仅是减压、提升专注力等。理解意识及其内容是理解自我的正确框架,意识本身不会改变,但其内容会改变,冥想旨在认识意识本身的特性。通过冥想,人们最终会认识到自我与体验之间没有分离,体验本身就是一切。

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This chapter explores the concept of self from neuroscience and philosophical perspectives, questioning the existence of a singular, independent self and introducing meditation as a tool for understanding consciousness. Dr. Harris argues that the self is an illusion, a construct that can be deconstructed through meditation practices.
  • The self is a complex concept with multiple interpretations.
  • Meditation can help deconstruct the illusion of the self.
  • The feeling of being a subject separate from experience is illusory.

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My guest is Sam Harris, Ph.D.) Sam earned his bachelor’s degree in philosophy from Stanford University and his doctorate (Ph.D.) in neuroscience from the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). He is the author of multiple best-selling books and is a world-renowned public-facing intellectual on meditation, consciousness, free will, psychedelics and neuroscience. He is also the creator of Waking Up) and the host of the "Making Sense)" podcast. In this episode, we discuss meditation as a route to understanding “the self” and experiencing consciousness, not just changing one’s conscious state. Sam describes several meditation techniques and their benefits, including how meditation fundamentally changes our worldview and how it can be merged seamlessly into daily life. It can help us overcome universal challenges such as distractibility and persistent, internal dialogue (“chatter”) to allow for deep contentment and pervasive shifts in our awareness, all while acknowledging the more immediate stress-lowering and memory-improving effects of meditation. We also discuss the therapeutic use of psychedelics and the mechanistic similarities between the benefits of a psychedelic journey and long-term meditation practices. And we discuss the rationale behind Sam’s recent decision to close his social media (Twitter) account. This episode should interest anyone wanting to learn more about the higher order functions of the brain, the brain-body connection, consciousness and, of course, meditation and why and how to meditate for maximum benefit.

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Timestamps

(00:00:00) Dr. Sam Harris 

(00:04:54) Sponsor: LMNT

(00:08:54) Sense of Self & Meditation, Dualism of Self

(00:18:07) Sense of Self in Brain & Body 

(00:25:28) Consciousness vs. Contents, Meditation

(00:28:25) Interrupting Sense of Self & Attentional Focus, Visual Saccade 

(00:33:30) Observer & Actor, Default Mode Network & Meditation, Blind Spot

(00:36:52) Sponsor: AG1

(00:41:57) Mediation & Paths to Understanding Consciousness, Non-Dualistic Experience

(00:57:32) Sense of Self throughout Evolution 

(01:07:40) Sense of Self from Human Development, Language

(01:19:46) Internal Dialogue, Distractibility & Mindfulness 

(01:26:27) Time Perception & Mindfulness, Vipassana Meditation, Resistance & Pain

(01:37:13) Consciousness & Sense of Control, Free Will

(01:43:14) Authoring Thoughts: Storytelling & Ideas, Free Will

(01:52:11) Meditation & the Paradoxical Search for Self

(02:06:44) Meditation & Concentration Practice 

(02:11:58) Mindfulness, “Skylike Mind” & Thoughts

(02:15:11) States of Self & Context, Dualistic Experiences

(02:32:39) Distraction & Identification of Thoughts, Meditation & “Flow” States

(02:42:58) Eyes-Open Meditations, Sense of Self, Visual Cues & Social Interactions

(02:54:59) Paths to Meditation, Mindfulness Meditation Step-Functions

(03:05:58) Psychedelics, MDMA & Experiences in Consciousness, Religion

(03:21:11) Meditation, Psychedelic Journeys & Inner Truths

(03:29:48) Psilocybin, Ego-Dissolution & Thought Expansion

(03:40:09) Process vs. Achievement of Goals, Fulfillment in Present

(03:54:29) Leaving Twitter; Conflict, Life Interruption & Politics 

(04:06:14) Social Media, Attentional Disruption & Deep Work

(04:15:39) Meditation & Sense of Self

(04:19:02) Sam Harris & Waking Up App, Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

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