The American Populist Fight for Deportation Hangs in the Balance
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Would the boys of Omaha Beach recognize the America of today? What were they fighting for? Is the country today the kind of country that the boys of Omaha Beach wanted? I would argue that it's not. And you can talk to them. Many of them, not as many as before, but many of them are still around. Many people know people who knew them. And one of the ways that we can get back there, get back to that America,

is through ending the migrant crisis. The migrant crisis is the largest and most significant change to America. It is the largest and most significant crisis facing America today. Let me ask you a couple of questions. Lakin Riley, Rachel Morin, Jocelyn Nungary,

Did the debt and the deficit kill those American women? Was it the debt that did that or was it illegal migrants? I think we know the answer to that question. And we know the answer to all these questions. These are the people who should not be here. And President Donald J. Trump was elected to remove them. When I went to the RNC, what sign did I hold?

It was the one they passed out. And it said, mass deportations now. Everyone go see the pictures. I remember what was said at every single one of those rallies, every single one of those events that we went to. This package that the president has put together and has staked all of his considerable political capital on. Yes, there are tax cuts. And by the way, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime are massive game changers for the working class.

But it is the mass deportations that were the mandate from almost 10 years ago. We're 10 days away from the 10-day anniversary of MAGA when President Trump came down the escalator and said, we are going to build a wall and deport them all. And we finally have the chance to actually do this. And let me tell you something, we're going to.

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Well, ladies and gentlemen, here we are back, Human Events Daily. We are live on Real America's Voice, as well as the Salem Radio Network, Coast to Coast, our three Charlie Kirk's audience. I want to bring them in. Folks, we're going to get into a lot today. We're going to talk about the Battle of the Billionaires and get back to the issues. We're going to talk about the issues at hand and the bill that has been put forward for the mass deportations and ending the migrant crisis in America. First, I want to tell you about today's episode sponsor.

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to get a free month of service with promo code POSO. Make the switch. Defend freedom with every call and text. That's patriotmobile.com slash POSO or call 972-PATRIOT. Folks, I'm going to lay it out for you real simple. Real simple. The MAGA movement exists because of mass deportations. It exists because of the immigration issue, period, full stop. When Donald Trump came down that escalator 10 years ago,

And everything that's happened since, the lawfare, the canceling, people losing their bank accounts, the arrests, the trials, the assassination attempts. Do you really think that we've come this far to just throw it all away now? No, I don't think so.

Why is it that there's always plenty of money to send to Ukraine, plenty of money to send the military over to the Middle East, plenty of money for all these things, but suddenly when it comes to actually funding something that's for the American people, the American worker, the American family, American mothers and fathers and American children, oh, now we got to be fiscally responsible. Now we got to be fiscally responsible. I'm sick of it.

I'm sick of it. 10 years, we are not stepping back one step. And if I see anyone taking one step back, then you are going right on the list. We got Vish Burra on, folks. Vish, you got to take the mic, man. I'm about to say something that I shouldn't say right now. Vish Burra, producer of Matt Gaetz Show, OAN. Take it away, Vish.

Jack, this is really, really simple. Like you said, 10 years ago, President Trump came down that golden escalator, went right to the podium that day and made his case for why he's running for president. And it started with the illegal immigration issue. I mean, he had those viral moments where he said that, you know, the Mexicans are sending all sorts of criminals and rapists and drug dealers and all. That was the lead off.

And that hasn't changed since. And by the way, over the years, Jack, you go to the rallies, they chanted, build the wall, build the wall. And then when it came to the 2023, 2024 rallies, guess what? The people in the rallies were not waving signs that said, cut deficits now. They said, mass deportations now. And, you know, I think that one of the...

Donald Trump is one of the best marketers ever in the history of the world. And, you know, he came out with this big, beautiful bill aesthetic. And it's really a signal that Donald Trump is trying to keep his promises. That's his number one superpower with his base is keeping his promises.

This big, beautiful bill does exactly that. But I think he would have gotten just a little step further and said that this is the big, beautiful deportations bill. This is ultimately what this bill is addressing on a magnitude we've been fighting for for over a decade. It finally finishes the wall.

mandates that a million people be deported every, a million illegals be deported every year. It also kicks off illegals on Medicaid and all these programs. It is so hyper-focused on making sure to deliver on the promises Donald Trump has been making, not just for the last election, not just for the last five or 10,

five years or so. It is for the last decade ever since Donald Trump came down that golden escalator. So Donald Trump is yet again delivering on his promises. That's what this bill is about. That's what our fight, MAGA's fight, has always been about. It's been our number one issue since time immemorial. And we are going to stick by our guy, by his side, have his back when he's trying to address our number one priority, which is immigration.

It's always been number one. This isn't the Jeb Bush movement. This isn't the Mitt Romney movement. This is why Romney lost. This is why Paul Ryan couldn't even win his own home state of Wisconsin. He was humiliated in his own home state. A joke.

An absolute joke, but you know who won Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania? By the way, wait for it, wait for it. Not twice, but three times, it was Donald J. Trump. Donald Trump is the one who won, and not just because of who he is, all right?

He could have run up there and said, oh, I'm going to give tax breaks for all the wealthy and do this for my buddies and do all this. And guess what? He would have gone down like Michael Bloomberg. People even forget that Michael Bloomberg ran for president. No, he came up and said, I'm going to finally do something for the American people.

and do so at the detriment to my businesses, to my net worth, to his own lifestyle that he walked away from. This is the difference. Vish, there is a difference between money and power.

When someone is willing to risk everything and lose everything, that is how you win the will of the people and doing the will of the people. And I'm sorry, but there's only one man that I saw in Butler, Pennsylvania, who stood tall while bullets were flying with blood running down his own face, fist in the air yelling, fight, fight, fight.

And that's Donald J. Trump. That's right, Jack. And think about all the sacrifices President Trump has made and continues to make to deliver for us, the American people. When we asked him to be our champion, be our fighter, and he offered it and he did it. He went and faced down every single nefarious entity, every single nefarious force that was trying to take him out, that was trying to take his family out, that was trying to take out his...

empire of businesses, his wealth, his everything, his existence, his name. They tried to erase Donald Trump from the historical record of earth. That's what these people have been trying to do. And then they tried to literally remove him from the earth as well back in Butler, Pennsylvania. These are all the things that Donald Trump has faced to get to this point, to be a

duly elected by the people and have their will in his political capital. And not only that, it's not just him, all his supporters who had to go through all of those things as well. This was a hard-fought victory for MAGA, for the MAGA base, and for the American people. We have a quick break coming up. We're on with Vishpura.

- Bish, and you and I were there. We were there the day of his first arraignment in Manhattan, that cold Manhattan morning in March back in 2023, standing up with bull horns,

saying, we don't care what you have to say to us. We don't care what you do to us. We don't care anything because we're going to stand here and we are going to keep fighting. When nobody believed in this movement, when nobody believed that he could come back to political office, when no one believed that a comeback was possible, we stood in the breach. Why? Because he stood for us. We're going to take a quick break and be right back here. Jack Posobiec, Vish Burra.

Today, you know, they talk about influencers. These are influencers. And they're friends of mine, Jack Posobiec. Where's Jack? He's done a great job. All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back. Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network. Folks, this bill is everything that we've been fighting for for 10 years. And I'm not saying that there aren't

you know, some perfect issues that we can talk about. I'm not saying that this is like some outhanded by God and we live, folks, we live in the real world, okay? We live in the real world. This is how political reality works. And at the end of the day, the MAGA movement has always been about what? It's been about

getting the economy right for the middle class and working class, and that's mostly through trade, but also through economic policies that are populist.

It's through mass deportations and it's been ending the foreign wars. You're worried about the debt. You're worried about the deficit. Well, how about we stop sending hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine, which nobody ever seems to have a problem with when it comes to this, and then we use that money to fund the deportations.

Why is it that there's always money for war, but never money for things that actually help the American people? Well, this is the entrenched uniparty establishment in play, Jack, right? This is also part of what we've been trying to fight as MAGA and what we've been trying to support President Trump's effort in and trying to drain the swamp and make DC in MAGA's image.

We have been running the primaries. We've been recruiting candidates. We've been on the ground pounding. We've been over the air promoting our ideals, our candidates. And we've been slowly remaking D.C. and the Congress, the Senate, the White House in MAGA's image. But it's a slow process. It takes time and there's still establishment –

and uniparty people who are still in there, who still make sure that their priorities are being funded. And look, if we had won a larger majority that's padded by a ton of MAGA votes, yeah, maybe we would have gotten more of what we wanted. But as the majority in the Congress is constituted now, this is what we can get. And it's no small feat to get what we wanted on the –

on the border wall, on the deportations, on the 10,000 new ICE officers, to get all of that in this bill with this Congress, with the Republican makeup as it is, it's actually an incredible feat to do.

be able to get this thing through the Senate, it would be a historic bill and it would really set the tone on what is possible in D.C. when you have the power, when you've worked hard over the last decade to take those halls of power. This would be a monument to Donald Trump's legacy and successes for everything he's, all the work he's put in for over a decade. And so we need to make sure that we bring this thing home and get it through the finish line.

I completely agree, Vish. One of the other things that, you know, sort of the elephant in the room a little bit, a little close to home. So one of the top issues as well, by the way, freedom of speech and also, by the way, freedom of the press have been huge issues throughout the course of this, by the way, because they've been trying to censor us because we are for mass deportations. People need to understand that was the issue that caused the censorship in the first place.

And I've always commended and continue to commend Elon Musk for this. But also, we're looking for some help at the FCC. And we're looking at ways, many ways, digital Bill of Rights, various things that could be done to actually help fight the big tech oligarchy and big media oligarchy. And it seems that one of our friends, Gavin Wax, is now potentially in contention, I

for one of these spots at the FCC that has come up. What are your thoughts on it and where do you stand?

Well, it's actually quite, I'm sure, the honor and the privilege to be even mentioned in that conversation for Gavin. But we know Gavin very well, Jack, right? There is no question about his loyalty to President Trump. There is no question about his efforts for the MAGA movement on the ground, over the air, his writings. He's done everything for this movement. And

I don't think, again, there's no question about his loyalty and his views and where he stands on the issues. But I think that one point that needs to be kind of pressed on us a little bit is that Gavin Wax is probably the person with the most bipartisan broad appeal to fill this role. You know, Gavin has...

is very strong on the issues of unions, on the issues of labor, on the issues of rural broadband and connectivity, on the issues of localism and local news and local organizations being funded to be able to address the concerns of the population.

But it's, you know, and Gavin Wax is uniquely qualified for this because he understands the threat to free speech and he also understands the role of big tech and big media in this country. I think he'd make, if the president so chose, I think he'd make a fantastic addition to the FCC. Vish Burra, go give him a follow. We'll be right back. We're going to be talking Ukraine, talking about that war that just won't end between Ukraine and Russia. We'll be right back.

we return and jack where's jack where's jack where is he jack i want to see you great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're always talking about the fake news and the bad but we have guys and these are the guys should be getting policies it was a deliberate strike and it only confirms our suspicions that the illegitimate regime in kiev that came to power through a coup

without being reborn as a terrorist organization and its sponsors become supporters of terrorism. Recently, the Ukrainian government and their allies dreamt of inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia on the battlefield. Now they are withdrawing from the battle zone

fleeing, and now the Kiev regime is trying to resort to terrorist attacks. At the same time, they're asking for a ceasefire. They're asking for top-level meetings. But how can we organize such meetings when something like this is happening? What is there to talk about? How can we negotiate with those who are resorting to terrorism?

And why should we reward them with a cessation of hostilities, allowing them to receive additional weapons to continue their mobilization and to prepare for more terrorist attacks like those in the Bryansk and Kursk regions? All right, folks, Jack Posobiec here. Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network, Charlie Kirk, Hour 3.

That was President Putin. It's been translated into English, but that was President Putin declaring that after the attacks on Russian civilians and a civilian train,

the attacks on the strategic bombers that he now views and the Kremlin now views the Ukrainian government essentially as terrorists. And of course, in the Russian parlance, they would then come back and say, well, we refuse to negotiate with terrorists. This also comes amid a massive reprisal from the Russians sending ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and hot

hundreds of drones, massive drone swarms across every single region of Ukraine last night, all the way up to the border with Poland itself, the NATO border. And so huge reprisal

And so many analysts in Washington, D.C. have told us that the Russians don't have the reserves, they don't have the military capacity to be able to do this. Well, guess what? Russia never divested of their manufacturing base. They never did. The United States did.

They also are willing to tap their own economic resources and their natural resources, oil, liquid natural gas, all of it that's out in Far East Siberia. They're using it. They're selling it to the Chinese. They're using it to flood the zone and to prop up the BRICS nations. And don't tell me, by the way,

that the sanctions are really stopping that. This is how they're getting around a lot of this while they continue to fill their coffers. And Europe, by the way, Western Europe, is still purchasing Russian gas because they have to. It is just cheaper. It is just cheaper, and that's what's going on. So this is a huge turn in relations. I wanted to bring on someone that I've been chatting with

about this for a little while on the backside, but not on the show yet, but I want to bring him on because I think he has a lot of interesting things to say. It's Jeff Webb. He's the CEO of the Human Events Media Group and a business entrepreneur in his own right. Jeff, you know, hearing this latest out of Ukraine, what does this mean for the peace talks? What does this mean for the peace process?

It's very concerning. It's very disturbing. I think rather than moving with some type of momentum toward peace discussions, starting with the ceasefire and so on, as President Trump has attempted, we seem to be going the other direction. I mean, we're getting real escalation here. And I really worry that the opportunity for real peace discussions has come and gone, and that maybe even a year ago,

I think Ukraine was in a stronger position to have those negotiations. And now, again, we see with the attacks on the Russian air bases last week, and then of course the attacks you mentioned just now,

on Ukraine by the Russians, things are going the wrong direction. There's no doubt about it. And I think you make a very good point, Jack, about the Russians' abilities to rearm. And we have been hearing, you're right, for months, for months, from military, so-called military experts,

that Russia was going to run out of military armaments. And it seems to be just the opposite. And that's concerning as well, because now you've got this Russian army and this Russian military that is getting all this battlefield experience.

And that's concerning. One of the things they've said about the US, especially after Vietnam, was even though that was a big problem, the military really had experience on tactics and how to do things differently. Well, the Russians are fighting a modern war and they're starting to do better and better. And now they've armed themselves, they've built up their manufacturing for their war capabilities. So all the way around, I think it's not good.

So, Jeff, if you had the ability to to reach out to and obviously we have senators and members of Congress who watch the program and are potentially listening on on the podcast side or or live on Salem radio right now, if you had the ability to reach out to them, what would your advice be given the current situation between the two sides?

That's a tough one, Jack. You know, I agree. Well, hey, it's not so often that we have someone who's been involved in international negotiations and dealing with these types of coalitions and things at this level. So, you know, I figure if Steve Witkoff can do it, then maybe, maybe we could tap some of Jeff Webb's expertise as well. Fair enough. It doesn't make it any easier, but fair enough.

I'm worried that the Europeans, frankly, who have a much different situation than we do, they're a lot closer to this.

You know, the Western Europeans have been fighting the Russians, you know, on and off for hundreds and hundreds of years, back and forth over the Ukraine and Poland and so on. And there's a lot of mistrust there. You have to look back also at the fact that the Russians lost nearly 9 million soldiers during World War II, 17 million civilians, 17 million.

And so there's a lot of mistrust on that side as well. I think somehow, some way,

I think it can't be done without the U.S. I think President Trump right now is in a very tough position. I'm not sure he has the cards to play. You know, he was talking to Zelensky, and I mean that with all respect. It's just that I don't know that we have a lot of influence right now. It's not the right time. But the Europeans have seemed to be much more kind of hawkish than we have.

And when the British are going to a war footing and they're talking about putting the French, we're talking about putting boots on the ground in Ukraine, that's really going the wrong direction.

And somehow, some way, we have to get our way to a ceasefire where, as President Trump said, at least the killing stops. And somebody's going to have to make their first move. I don't think the Russians are going to do it. I think it's going to have to be the Ukrainians, unfortunately, just because of the history here.

well jeff coming at it from a negotiator standpoint you know ukraine obviously is very entrenched in their position and you know they're fighting this war for their survival in many cases and they're willing as we've seen to go to great lengths uh to conduct these attacks which russia then responds and calls them terrorist attacks saying you're hitting bridges you're hitting trains uh obviously this huge

very audacious plan to attack the strategic bombers across all of Russia. But when it really comes down to it, do you think this is going to get done without having ultimately Trump and Putin talking to each other and really making that one-on-one deal between the two of them?

I think it will not stop until that ultimately happens. It's a matter of getting to that position, listening to what – in the piece you ran before you and I started talking here, listening to Putin's position as far as viewing the – what he views as escalation on behalf of the Ukrainians. Look, there's two sides to it always. The Ukrainians feel the same way.

But you're right about the Ukrainians fighting for their homeland and their survival. Again, if you go back over history, especially those eastern provinces, they are very Russian-oriented. And the lines are not so clear, unfortunately.

But I think that somebody has to stop shooting, and the other hopefully will respond. And it probably will take sanctions, severe sanctions, to make that happen. You make a great point about the Europeans still buying Russian oil and gas. So in effect, they are fueling the conflict.

So it's complicated. It's just something I hope that we don't find our own country drug into. It's happened before. I hope it doesn't happen again.

Well, and this became a huge issue. So I just got back from Europe, met with Prime Minister Viktor Orban, and had the opportunity to meet the now president-elect of Poland. And one of the things that Viktor Orban said during our meeting, and I asked him about this, regarding the negotiations, and he has tried, and folks remember, and he took a lot of

a lot of flack for this and a lot of criticism because he went to the Ukrainians in Kiev and he also went to the Russians in Moscow when Hungary held the head of the European Commission and he was the president of it last year and he said look

We want peace on both sides. But unfortunately, both sides were telling him that we believe that we are winning. So we went to the Russians and he said where they said we're winning. We believe we have time on our side. And then he went to the Ukrainians and they said, we believe we're winning and we have time on our side. And this just goes to show you that it really feels like there's a lot of recalcitrance on both sides. A lot of galvanization, obviously, as happens.

with these types of wars but there's just no appetite even in place like poland where my family's from but even in that election if those results show there isn't an appetite even for them who have a lot of reasons to not be fans of russia a true enemy or adversary i guess in a in a classical sense but they don't want to go to war either and that's really what this comes down to

No, no, I think you're absolutely right. And I think you, you know, history tells us that when you have this kind of ongoing back and forth conflict at a certain level, it's just a matter of some miscalculation. And pretty soon you're in something really, really major. And we have to remember, of course, that the Russians have, what is it, 4,000 nuclear weapons?

And we just have to always keep that in mind. And I think that the Europeans are going to have to come to their own conclusions about the fact that there has to be peace. I mean, Russia is a much larger country than Ukraine. Jeff, we have a quick break. Hold that thought because I want to unpack this in the next segment. The European angle on all of this is so important and it's going to be what changes everything.

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All right, Jack Posobiec here, back, final segment of the week. Pretty eventful week, that's to be said, and not only the sparks flying in Washington, D.C., but the actual missiles flying and the drones flying.

between Ukraine and Russia. We're on live Real America's Voice in the Salem Radio Network. We're on with Jeff Webb, business entrepreneur and CEO of the Human Events Media Group. Jeff, during the break, you said something that I really want to unpack for the audience. And we were talking and we'd mentioned before about Steve Witkoff and his business background.

And this is something where he's faced a lot of criticism. People have said, how can President Trump appoint a businessman to go and deal with all of these issues? And he's obviously not just involved in Ukraine-Russia, but Israel-Gaza, involved in these Iran negotiations, nuclear weapons, all of these things. They say, this guy's not an expert. He doesn't have any background in these things. Jeff, is having a business background actually an advantage here?

in some of these negotiations as opposed to a disadvantage as the media would have us believe? Yeah, I think it definitely can be. I mean, I think Steve's done an amazing job so far, by the way. And, you know, just having been involved in a lot of business negotiations and transactions and

You know, I think your point, Jack, about not bringing in some ideological position that perhaps puts you in a difficult place as far as giving and taking. And, you know, you're just kind of blinded to some extent sometimes. And I think when you bring somebody like Witkoff in, who Trump says, I want you to make this deal. Well, he can always get the advice of diplomats and experts and military. Oh, I can get all that.

but he's charged with how do I do the give and take here? How do I really find out what is the most important thing to each party? How do I find out what they could give a little bit on? How do I try to change it so that maybe it's a different approach and they can live with that? That's what true negotiation is. It's very difficult, and it's very difficult, especially now. You're not only dealing with money like in business. You are dealing with politics and sometimes religion.

when you get to the Middle East, it's a tough job. And I think somebody with that kind of business background is, I think, is the right kind of person to lead those negotiations, ultimately. You only have to look back, frankly, at the previous administration with Anthony Blinken and Jake Sullivan. And I mean, it's very difficult to really identify anything that they got accomplished in all four years.

We did end up with a couple of wars while they were in charge, not blaming them, but they just weren't effective. And I think Steve Whitkoff already has been more effective than they were in their four years.

Well, you know, actually, when Secretary Besson had me on, another businessman, by the way, coming in, had me on that train to Kiev back in February. And so we were on the presidential car and they were telling us, they said, oh, this was the same car that Biden had used. And we were on this sort of conference room car that they had on the back of the train. And

They said – and Jake Sullivan was here too, and so I asked the attendant, sort of like a conductor, and I said, so which seat did Jake Sullivan sit in? He said, is this one right here? I said, all right, I'm not going to sit there on the train. And Secretary Besset –

And I appreciate, too, the way that he came at this. And obviously, you know, the deal hasn't quite gone the way that I think a lot of people were hoping. But he offered this this mineral deal to Ukraine in terms of economic interest, said. And this has been something President Trump, again, as his businessman, looking at it, say, look, we want to get something out of this. We put so much in. And if Ukraine's not going to be able to.

refund these loans, then perhaps there is something that we can get in terms of these rare earth minerals or some of the other mineral rights out of there. That's just what how a businessman thinks. That's not how anyone in Washington, D.C. thinks, though, is it?

No, it's not. And I think the other thing about that positioning was that, and this is kind of a longer term play, but when you have countries that are doing business with each other, when you've got industries that are interacting within the two countries, they don't really fight as much. And so I think just starting that process, getting in business with them, having more say in what they do,

And the same thing with Russia. I mean, I think that we should be looking for ways. I know that sounds almost like heresy to some people, but we should be looking for ways to be doing business with all of these countries. And perhaps you can break the cycle of these kind of hostilities.

I think that's what it is. I think that's what it all is about folks. This is Jeff Webb. We're just about out of time here for the program for the week. Jeff, shout out your book again so that everyone understands how they can learn a little bit more about this for themselves as well. You know, it's, uh, it can find it on Amazon. It's, uh, uh, it's all about the middle class, which is, uh, but when I grew up in and, uh,

different things that I think, just kind of practical knowledge. It's called American restoration. Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have our permission to lay ashore.