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Hello. Hello. Rappaport's reality. My voice is a little messed up. My name is Michael Rappaport. And I'm Kibi Rappaport. And this is a full recap best of Traitors Season 3, which we loved. Loved. I mean, we're so sad to see it over. We had a good time watching that show. And Dolores. I was going to say, did the person you want to win...

Yes, I wish it was her alone. Me too. But I'm glad she got to share it. But I didn't mind any of the people that won with her. No. They were all... They were all deserving. Zac Efron's brother, no disrespect, can't remember your first name right now. My voice is a little messed up. He was cool, understated, played the game hard. And Gabby. Gabby. I mean, she was a long shot. Who knew that she was going to be one in the end?

She's funny. Yes. Very, very funny. Great timing. What a wonderful... And then what was the other guy? The Count? He's like a Count? Ivar. Ivar. Is he a Count? I don't remember. Is he a Count? I don't know. But this is our Best of Traders Season 3. We loved watching it. We loved talking about it. And we love podcasting. We love podcasting. And there's so much to discuss going forward. Garcelle has left...

The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. You know what? Goodbye, Garcelle. Goodbye, Garcelle is the new goodbye Kyle. Yes. Shout out to Ken. Yes. I mean, she had a good run, but enough is enough. And we're going to deep dive Garcelle leaving. Oh, yeah. We have insinuated, we've talked about it on mic, we've talked about it more off mic. Off mic. Out of respect. Totally out of respect, but now that she's going, we can let it out.

I will say this. We're focusing on the Traders episode. I will say in regards to Garcelle, there was a new trailer that was just put out of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion. Yeah. And it shows her walking off. And she says...

to the effect of, I don't have the direct quote, but she's on camera saying, I don't like any of these people. And that's the thing that I- This is so crazy. This is what we talked about behind the scenes all the time. Every episode, we'd like go, something doesn't feel right. You know, we've known her in the past. We love you, Garcelle, but it's like, we were on there. It felt like you're on one of our favorite shows for a check.

that you're not really related you're not really sharing yourself and you called it babe you called it every single time every single Tuesday night whenever it airs I'm telling you for five years I've been like why are you here yes and she said it and no disrespect Garcelle no disrespect Garcelle none ever you're not Regina King or Viola Davis no you've never been that no

You're a functioning working. Okay, we're going to do Traders. We don't want it. Let's save it. Best of Traders. But anyway, we're going to have a lot to say about Garcelle's great departure. But anyway, this Traders is a good idea because I think we're spreading the love. We're spreading the Traders love. And if you haven't watched Traders. We've said it once. We've said it a gazillion times. Your loss. It's not. We're not losing out on it.

Essentially, you're losing out on it and we want you to win. Right. We don't want you to lose. Get into it. It's nothing but fun. Good times. We had been anticipating Traders Season 3. We watched Traders Season 2, adored it, loved it, ravaged it. I will say Peacock...

You got to do what you got to do. I don't understand the business model. I don't understand how or why some streaming services like Netflix, they put the whole thing out. I don't care what it is. It could be 20 episodes of...

Whatever show, they put the whole thing out. And as a fan of TV, we like to binge. I would say I like to binge. I think you get kind of frustrated with the binging. Reality shows I can binge. Fair. That being said, Traders dropped three episodes and it came in the evening. It came on in the evening and we literally put our phones in the other room. Got it right at nine o'clock. We went to our respective bathrooms and did what we need to do to relieve ourselves. Yes.

Face. Wash your face. Double cleanse. Clean yourself top to bottom. Yep. Set the blankets. Set the pillows. Totally. Set the mood. And turn the remote on and move it away. And move it away. Because you don't want to bump into it. You don't want to stop anything. That's true. And it came, saw, and delivered big time. Shout out to Alan Cummings. Oh my gosh. First of all, he must be getting a great check.

but he seems like he's having so much fun. The costumes and the playing it up and the traitors. And he seems like he must be having a fucking ball. Alan Cummings, who is a great actor and performer, and he sings and he's the host of traitors. And we can't emphasize enough

how good both I could vouch that season two and season three have been great. I don't know how great season one was. Yeah, great. I love his outfits. I think it's part of the show. I can't wait till each scene when he comes into breakfast, what he's wearing is the best to me. And he hams it up and they love him hamming it up. And he just, he must just have so much fun

doing the show. And just to tell you what the show is, if you haven't watched it, and again, I don't know why you haven't watched it, it's like a murder mystery. Obviously, it's not a real murder mystery, but it's like Clue. And there's traitors, and then there's faithfuls, and everybody is sort of lying and cheating. Conniving, gathering groups. And there's challenges, and there's groups, and there's backstabbing. It's just like a perfectly...

a mashup of all the great things about other reality TV shows. And they get all the other great people from all the shows. There was a show called the challenge. Never watched that. Never watched that. Um, of course, big brother survivor. And then there's heavy, heavy with Bravo people. Love it. And, um, uh, this season, uh,

He's fucking back, man. Tom Sandoval. He just can't get rid of him. He just is good TV because whether you like him or can't stand him, there's something about him where you just, even if you can't. I'm the latter. Yeah, I'm the latter. But he makes for great TV because he, I don't know how much he's conscious of. I don't think he's conscious of anything. See, I beg to differ. I think he's a little conscious.

But he's also, I feel like he's not playing with a full deck and he's not very bright. But I think the thing that he thinks he has control of, he thinks he has control of. Like there was a scene where he's running in one of the challenges and

And he ran past the camera. And he ran past the camera like he was in a war movie. Do you know what I mean? Like Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible. Yeah, it was very conscious to me. That challenge gave no reason to run like that. And it wasn't even fast. It wasn't particularly a fast run, but it was like where the arms were very, very, you know...

like striding arms, pierced lips and furrowed brow. I'm trying my best. Like I'm going up a hill. And it was just, come on, dude. So we got Tom Sandoval. We have... I'm not going to go over everybody. We have the guy, Sam, who is married to Britney Spears. Right. Who is...

they're all good. We have Wells from Big Brother. And we're very happy for Wells. He's from behind the bar. Yes. Finally. And let's see what happens. He's a Big Brother in Paradise. Yes. Sorry, Bachelor in Paradise. Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah.

And we have a guy who's like a reality show staple, Boston Rob from Survivor. And of course, we have Dorinda. We got Bob the Drag Queen. Bob the Drag Queen. We got Dolores. Dolores.

From The Real Housewives of New Jersey. Dorinda from New York. We have Chris Schell from Selling Sunset. She's been great. She's great. We have Chanel from The Real Housewives, obviously of Dubai. Danielle from Summer House. No, that's Ciara. Ciara from Summer House. The cast is great. It's been fantastic. And the first three episodes were fucking great.

Great. And full transparency to you guys, full transparency to you guys. After the second episode we watched, so we're talking, I think they're both like 50 minutes. This is two hours. We're grownups.

We took a piss break and I said, babe, can we get the popcorn? Can we get the catacomb? And you said no. I said, it was too late already. You know, if you want to intermittent fast, it was a little too late. We should have started early. But we're having so much fun. Like, how could you not? You kept saying, I'm having so much fun. I was like, you can have fun without eating, but that's the O talking in me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not hungry. So...

I don't want to ruin your... But I said I broke, and I finally... Second episode? Halfway through the second episode? At the end of the second episode, you said, go get it. And I will say, I did eat the majority of the bowl. You said, put it in a bowl. Yeah. Because, as you know, Rapport Reality, Faithful, there's been a lot of crumbs. There's been a lot of chocolate smears. So she said, put it in the bowl. And I said, fine. Because I was... I was on a high, not from the kettle corner. You really were. I was having so much fun with you and so much fun with the show. It was just...

It was really why we created this fucking podcast. Yeah, because we want to share how joyful we get watching a show. And I always go, babe, how would you do on the show? Because I'm watching it, seeing myself. I'm like, I want to see, like, how would I do? Because it's such a mindfuck. They're filming. Let's say they're filming for 12 hours. Oh, right. Or 10 hours a day. Right. For two weeks, maybe. Okay. Right. How much can you keep up with?

the bullshit and what kind of a person is keeping it up all the time because there's obviously a sense of you're playing a game the whole time. Oh, I think everybody who comes on this show is playing it

full out seriously the whole time. Oh, no, they're playing full out. Because here's the thing with the game. But how good are they playing? Yeah, well, that's skill. That has nothing to do with being tired of being able to keep up appearances. The skill of the game is the skill of the game. It's like, I don't see how anybody could go in there not having watched the show. You have to... I have certain theories about what it takes and why somebody wins. This is why I have really good instincts with Dolores.

You know, it's a certain type of personality that could win favor from friends and enemies alike at the same, you know, at the same time. And I just think it's a very I love the show. I would love to be on that show. I would love to be on it, too.

The only thing that I wouldn't. I think you wouldn't have the patience. Oh, I would have the fucking patience. I mean, you're competitive. You like to win, but you're not a communicator. So you'd be sitting over. I'd be bullshitting these motherfuckers. I would be bullshitting them. Yes, I'd be bullshit. And also I'd be listening and I'd be like, I would fuck around. I would do good because I would be focused. Like you're saying, I'm not a good communicator in real life, but I would be performing. Performing. And playing to win.

although I feel like, I don't know. It's tricky because in the morning, there's a part where the traitors have to kill someone every night or get, not every night, but the way the game goes. And then the next morning, eliminate a person from the show. And in the morning, they all show up for breakfast. And when the first people come in and there's a knock on the door, you see who got eliminated, right? Now, I find that a lot of these people really play it up.

When they go, oh my gosh, thank God you're here. You made it. I just don't think this is the right angle all the time. I just don't. There's a traitor on here now, and I won't spoil it, that I think she's playing it totally wrong. Yes. Too many tears. You know what I mean? Yes. Yes. Our girl from New York. And it hurt me to watch her get kicked off.

I think it was the first episode. It was the first episode they kicked somebody off. They sent fucking Dorinda Medley home and they fucked her. I feel like she got fucked because there was so many housewives. There was four of them. Yeah.

No, five total. Right. And you could just feel like they were going to pluck one of them off. Yeah, because they felt intimidated. It was a gang of housewives, a gaggle of housewives. A gaggle of housewives. And I just felt bad because I know how hard Dorinda... Whether you like Dorinda or don't like Dorinda, Dorinda comes to play. She comes to perform. I think she's aware of her mistakes. I think she wants to do well and be liked.

I think she definitely wants to be. I don't know if she cares about being liked, babe. She wants to be liked. She wants to be liked. In an ego kind of celebrity. I think she wants to be a celebrity. And I think she wants to keep working. That's what I really think. And I think she played it totally wrong with her big mouth. She couldn't help it. That's what I'm saying. Turn the volume up later, Dorinda. Don't turn it up right away. Nobody wants to see all that right away. They don't know you. I was getting cringy flashbacks from her last seasons. I was like, there's not even any drinking and she's losing her shit. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? That was true. She wasn't drunk. That's what I'm saying. She was trying to play. And I think she went a little. She went too far. These people don't know you. These are not other housewives. The vibe is going to be at six, five. Agreed. In the beginning. Maybe four. And put it up to eight later, Dorinda. Anyway, I wanted to see her do well. That being said, the rest of the episodes come on. I don't know how they're rationing them out, babe. I don't know if it's two weeks. I don't know. Like the Friday, will three more come out or will two come out? Let's see. I don't know.

But we're not going to be doing this shit till March. I know. Like, I love it. But like, come on, man. We can't be doing this shit. Like, because the way it's looking, it's like, okay, there's a couple more weeks in January. And then we're going to go all February. And then we're going into like March. Yeah. Yeah. It'd probably be over the third week of March. That's that's a little rough. Yeah.

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Babe, I don't know if there's any show or game or anything that we watch and we're literally like salivating. Yes, we really love it. What is it about the show that you really like? Like, I'm trying to figure it out for myself. What do you think it is for you? That's a good question. I think for me,

It's obviously, number one, it's fun. Number two, it's literally totally unpredictable. It is a game show. It is a game show, and it is playing out in real time. And I think because...

of the characters that we know, but it's not even the characters that we know. I think you're really seeing real people try to... Deceive? Yeah, to deceive, but not to deceive and not come off too deceiving. And I can't help but put myself in the show

And imagine the long hours, because what we see in an hour-long episode, you know there's so much footage. And how do you keep it on? How do you not keep it on? And I will say this. I will say one thing. I did an episode of, I think it might have been Deal or No Deal. And there was a person on the show that people didn't like in real life. Oh.

They just, he just was kind of, I'm not going to say who it is because I like the person. Okay. But they kind of were like, get rid of this fucking guy. Like just, you know, and, and he didn't necessarily need to be gotten rid of. The way the producers asked you to do this? No, no. He was just a fucking prick. Not a, not a. Who wanted to get rid of the guy? Yeah.

Maybe I had something to do with it. Maybe a couple of us were like, fuck them, you know, like get rid of them. Right. Anyway, I just like the show. I think it's fun. I think it's unpredictable. I think that fucking Boston Rob is dope. I love how Dolores going at Tom Sandoval. I love seeing Tom Sandoval in the wild. I love that Robin Dixon said, what did she say? When she was like, he said, what do you think of Tom Sandoval on the show? And she said,

She didn't say clueless. She said he's kind of... Out of touch. Out of touch. Yes. Which I highly agree. It's the nicest thing you could say about Tom. But if you're not judging him based on Vanderpump rules, that's a perfect way to put it. Right, which she said she didn't watch Vanderpump, so she could just say based on what she knows, he's out of touch. Yeah, and I think that's a great way to... Perfect. Perfect.

Because it's like, who are you, man? You're not in the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but you look like the guy from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Oh my gosh, yeah. We love Tom Sandoval. He shows up to breakfast in a kilt because he's in Scotland. Yeah, he just dresses the part. Yes, a fascinating guy. But he's made it. He's done better. See, my point about Tom Sandoval and my reference to Deal or No Deal, if that was the show, is that I would have thought...

he would have fucked himself just by, but he, he's playing it smarter than I predicted. He would play it. His person. I don't think he knows what he's playing. I think he's just kind of lucky. He has no time. He says my instinct is, but then I'm like, maybe this fucking guy is devious, but I don't think that's the case. No, no, he doesn't know what's happening. But that's what I'm saying. Like the amount of hours that they film, like who's playing the game 24 seven. When do you let your guard down? And how does it work? Because that's,

That's interesting. Now when you say that out loud, we're watching it as just sheer entertainment, but they do have to play it up all the time. But maybe they're just shooting when they're shooting and they keep them separate from themselves. They don't actually sleep in the castle. I heard they keep them really separate. What's my man's name from Summer House who used to have the mullet?

With the blonde hair. He used to have the mullet. The blonde-headed guy. Amanda's husband. Amanda's husband. Yeah. Because he was on the show, and he said that part of it was real. Like, yo, he goes, they separate us. Oh, so they don't go... When they go upstairs to go to sleep, they leave. No, and he goes, we're quarantined. And he goes, when you come in in the morning... You're just playing the game. Like, you don't see who left in the hotel. They have to do it that way. Otherwise, if they had spent too much time together, it would never work. It would fuck it up. And I think...

that they really sustain that sort of like what's going to happen, who's got kicked off and all that stuff. So I just think it's, I just think. I think it's mind bending. I really do because there is some kind of skill to it that no one yet really knows about.

Because I keep thinking about, I would do horrible on that show. But then you sometimes say you would do great. No, I think that I would play it like sort of Dolores is playing it so far, or Phaedra, where I would stay pretty anonymous but friendly. You know, I think that you cannot get too emotional. Facial expressions have to be in check. You have to be likable but not...

Yeah. And I think those ladies are really good at that and they're strong. So you have to be very strong. There's a lot to it. And that's what I like, the sociological element to it of relating with each other in life because...

Lying into someone's face, even for a game to me, is just... I know you're terrible at it. It's horrible. I wouldn't be able to do it. I wouldn't be good at the lying. I'd be comfortable with the lying right in their fucking face. Like, yo, man, it's not me, all right? I am a traitor. I'm not a traitor. The thing that, outside of that, I'd suck at...

is I am not good at manipulating. Like, I'm not good at planting a seed for that. I'm terrible at that. You're horrible at that. But I could tell the motherfucker, yo, I ain't a fucking traitor, man. And this motherfucker, I could do that good. Yeah, you could, yeah. But the fucking manipulating shit, I am not good at that. And that's what I'm trying to figure out, who's doing that? Because that's something I'm not good at manipulating, and I'm super good at being manipulated. Well, the one lady Danielle is doing that.

I mean, she cries when somebody doesn't come in from breakfast. It's ridiculous to me. I don't know. Also, going back to Robin on Watch What Happens Live, she did say that that lady was the most annoying one in the cast. Yes. Danielle, yeah. The traitor. I think that it's very interesting. I was trying to look up and see what the world of Reddit people are really saying about the show, which is fascinating. What do they say? People are really into it. You know, just everybody breaks down the episodes. Fuck. One thing I thought...

What I think is really interesting is that the three traitors are the messiest out of the seasons, the American show thus far. Going after each other immediately is usually not a tactic for the show. And I think that it's interesting that this Danielle, who I believe came from Survivors and was on it with not Carolyn, the other blonde, they had a problem on that show. So I think she...

came into it going, I am going to do everything necessary to win, which is so... What I read that I thought was funny, I pointed out to you, so unfaedra how she's behaving. Right. I have a feeling. I mean, we have an episode coming up this week. It sucks that it's on Thursday, though. But I have a... I don't know. I think she could go down... I don't know. I could be wrong. I kind of would like to see her go down. Danielle? Yeah. I just...

Her going after Caroline and it just seems so, there's no allegiance between the traitors, which they're the traitors. There's few of them. Like, just as faithful stick together, I think traitors have to stay together until a certain point. Yes. So anyway, I love the show. Damn, it's good. I love that you love the show. It's so much fun. I told my mom to watch it. She was like, I tried to watch it, couldn't get into it. I don't know if it's episode five or six of Traitors. Traitors. Traitors.

It was episode seven. Seven, whatever it is. And we're going to give a spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert. The great Boston Rob got killed, as they call it on the show. They got rid of him. They got rid of him. And that motherfucker brought it. He's a great gamer. He's excellent. He's excellent, but he messed up. He should have never gotten rid of Bob the Drag Queen.

He did it too soon. You don't get rid of a traitor in front of everyone like that. And he jumped the gun, I think. And it messed up his whole game. And he was trying to play catch up this whole time. You think so? Yeah. I just, I think it was not, he thought he could do it because his name came up, but he should have parlayed it. He should have waited at least another episode before he made that move. I mean, he is very entertaining to watch on these shows because he's

He's so calm and so good with his words and so relaxed. And his whole persona, he's like Italian or he seems like he looks Italian or maybe Irish, but he looks like he's Italian. And his whole Boston thing and his hat, he is very, very good. And whether you couldn't stand him or loved him, he is.

I mean, he really fucking, he brings the shit. He was a good player because he's aggressive with the game. And, you know, instead of being laid back like other people are, I think that my big disappointment of the show is like, I love Dolores.

But I just am shocked at how she's playing. Wasn't your father the police chief? Yes. Like, I feel like she picked Tom twice, like just out of like spite, like revenge. And I'm like, what is going on? Maybe she's doing that on purpose. And then this morning I thought, huh, maybe that's a strategy. You sit back, you watch everything, you say just enough. And then you pick a rando that you know is a faithful and you just go after him.

Because he went after you and then you just watch. Maybe that's it. It might be. It might be. I'm so curious because I was like, you have to know this guy's full of shit. She's astute. She knows people. I think, you know, I just think there's something going on that I'm shocked that she's not more aggressive, but you're right. It may be a strategy. Yeah. Because I, yeah, I was surprised at that too. But again, you have to like, you can't get emotional on that show. Right.

If you get too emotional, you're going to be fucked. Yeah, and two of the ladies, Danielle and Carolyn, are super emotional. It's a chaotic game that they're playing, and I can't wait to see what happens. But, babe, the part that freaked me out was the challenge with the bugs, when they had to put their hand in that box, and you said we could do that. And I disagree. There was a challenge where the players had to couple up

As if they were getting married. As if they were getting married. There was this sort of marriage ceremony. And then they were told, all you have to do is hold hands for eight minutes. Yes. And everybody was like, you know, that's nothing. And then it was like, then this box came out. And they were like, uh-oh. Yeah. And then in the box, they held hands and then they put beetles. Some kind of bug, a centipede type of big worm with a bunch of legs. Yo, I, I, there's no way.

There's no way. A lot of them chose not to look, but the game just got worse because after, I don't know, towards the end, the last two minutes, they started dropping maggots and crickets and roaches from the sky. That shit was disgusting. That was so foul. I mean, I think... And they couldn't wipe them off because you had to hold hands. So you have to hold... You can't let go of your partner's hand...

During and while bugs, maggots, cockroaches, they put a fucking snake on them. You almost saw Dolores' personality because she partnered up with Chrishell. She was pissed. And Chrishell didn't last one second. She pulled her hand out immediately. And you saw Dolores get pissed off. Like that you saw her personality. She said wrong pick or wrong partner. Yeah.

Yeah, because she fucked her up. She said not okay. Right. That's what she said. Right. She was pissed. Yes. I think it's something that she could have powered through mentally. 100%. 100%. Yeah. But honestly, now that you watched it, would you have been able to do that? Yes, you would have been able to. I think I would have. But what if the bugs would have been in your hair and shit? If I knew I wanted to win, that...

The problem I would have had is when they dropped the bugs and maggots going down my back when they were like, oh, it's in my bra. That stuff. I'd be like, no, I mean, for what? Like, why am I doing this? But for me, because I learned in therapy that I am as tough as I am, I'm a little bit of a people pleaser. So I wouldn't want to pull my hand.

and mess up the other person. So I would have to like communicate with them and say, hey, look, Michael, I can't do this anymore. I'm going to have to, you know, we'd have to, it'd have to be an agreement. Once you start, you got to keep going. I know, but once you started, it got worse, progressively worse. The grossest part of it to me was when they had to dig for the ring and they had all, because they were, it seemed like then it was going in their nails and shit. Oh yeah.

It was disgusting. It was great TV, though. Gotta give a shout out, and you need to publicly give a shout out to Tom Sandoval, who, he was the guy who was like, Boston Rob, Boston Rob, Boston Rob. Listen. He was so fucking happy and proud of himself. Yes, I'm proud of him.

I'm hard on him and this is not my favorite person, but up until the bugs, the episode was getting boring and then it even went better when he opened his mouth up. I mean, there was a part where he walked out in front of Boston Rob and the other kid, Dylan, and they ignored him. Did they ignore him or they didn't see him? I read an article. They didn't see him. Like, that's how, like...

burger he is on the show and... It's working. It's working, but he turned it around and he's become quite entertaining. I fuck with Sandoval. I can't tell though. Is he manipulative and planned and calculated? Or is he just dumb? I think it's a little bit of both. There's a little bit of both. Like a ditzy person who thinks they've got an M.O. and they have you know...

Like this ability to manipulate things, but you're like, it's totally transparent. You're not that bright. It's so good. I fucking love him so much. And I just... But just because like all his flaws and I just like his character on Vanderpump Rules. And then when you see it translate into another show, I just...

To me, he's like a Vinnie Barbarino. Completely. Yeah, totally. Completely. But he was the one who was like, it's Boston Rob, it's Boston Rob. And he was so fucking proud of himself because he was picking the worst people going into it. And I love that he's rocking his TomTom hat. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that.

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Anyway, we're here in Florida. We're here in Florida. And it's another great week of reality television. Another great week. Taking a break is not going to make us miss our television. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, it's not. No, no, no, no. And we got to give a shout out to...

Ciara. Spoiler alert. Ciara. Spoiler alert. Ciara from Summer House. Ciara, who got bumped, killed, as they call it, ousted. From the traitors. She was a faithful...

And she saw that storm. It's like being in the middle of the ocean and the storm is coming from the left, from the right, the north, the south. And it starts spinning you around and there's sharks and there's whales. And she saw that storm coming and she tried to fight it. And you told me that you've seen her behave like this. I am newer to Summer House. So I was like, I liked how she was like,

cursing. She was like, fuck that, fuck this. And I was like, you should have brought that energy to West. Yes. You saw the season. You got deeply involved in Summer House during the season of when West comes into play. Yes. So you didn't see her in the times before where she skates on the line of a mean girl.

Okay. She's tough. I feel like she let Wes get away with a lot of bullshit last night. She did, but what I explained to you is when it comes to love, sometimes women, we don't put our toughest foot forward because there's love. She liked him, so...

But in the end, I mean, come on, at the reunion, she went after him. And in the first episode of this season, she called him a loser in the car. So you're seeing bits and pieces of it. I love her. I think she's a strong girl. I hate that she was cut off. I really do, because I could have seen her being one of the players that goes to the end. Every single person that gets bumped off except for that fucking drag queen, Bob, is

It hurts to see them go. Bob the Drag Queen. Every single one of the traitors, whether they're a faithful or a traitor, you don't like to see them go. And we have to, again, this is two weeks in a row, we have to give it up to fucking Sandoval. Sandoval, he's becoming one of my favorites. Superseding expectations. Well, no, I'm pushing it. That's not true, babe. Scratch that. I did not say that. He's becoming one to watch because I...

thought he was just so annoying every time in these last two episodes i he makes me laugh out loud he's the best you really like him and i always ask you this like what is it about this guy redemption it's all that i've said this once and i'll explain it again i want to see jackswin

I want to see Tom Sandoval win. I want to see Tom Schwartz win. I want to see them all win. You're an underdog, kind of. But it's not even the underdog. Like, if anybody from Vanderpump, any of the people that have given me joy, I want to see them come out on the other side. Right, for instance, like Christian Doty having a baby. This is big. 100%. I get it. And I totally, I said, I think from the beginning, I was like, this fucking guy's going to get bumped off week one or week two just because he's either too dumb or people don't like him from...

Vanderpump. Known as the cheater. And that's why I'm like, he's right now on the other side. He's in the second half of the game. Yes, he really is. He really is. And he was the ringleader of Boston Rob. He's got his wings, and I think we'll see what happens. Yeah, and he dresses the part like he...

I just like how much he participates in the shit. His facial expressions are everything. They just make me laugh because you can't... I'm telling you, I don't know if he's acting or if he's just really this way. I can't figure it out. I think... And I don't think he'd be a great actor. So go figure. But sometimes when he's on Traitors...

I'm like, this guy's like doing like monologues like from old acting classes. Well, in this episode in particular, no spoiler, if you've watched it already. Spoiler alert. They have to do a challenge where they go into like a haunted house with a bunch of dolls that when you press the button, they sing a nursery rhyme backwards. So it'd be like...

Right? So Tom, because it had something to do with music and he has a band, he took charge of this thing. But babe, he genuinely said, I don't think anybody here understands music or is musically inclined the way I am. And I was like...

The fact that he thinks that he's... This is the brilliance of him. Anyway, so he starts doing it and you have to run back to the telephone and tell the other teammates and you have to repeat the... And he was so committed to doing it. And he won them the challenge. He did, but he had one hand over one ear. He was like the Beach Boys, like recording the animal sounds. I mean, talk about pitchy. It was like the fucking Beatles doing the White Album. Like he was...

He literally thought he was Tchaikovsky. Yes. Like creating a masterpiece. But the commitment. The commitment is...

It's been two big weeks for Tom. I know. I know. Let's keep it up, Tom. You're doing good. You're doing great. But that was first of all, so funny. The fact that he helped them win that challenge. And Alan Cummings was dying. Because it was hilarious. I would have been on the floor. Right. Like literally like I would have been under a table dying laughing. So funny. So funny. It was great. At the entire situation. Anyway, so we can't emphasize enough. If

If you're looking for a good time and now is such a good time to do it because there's so many episodes up. There's episodes stacked. You can get into it. Do yourself a favor and bring non-reality TV lovers into it. Traders is chef's kiss. What other shows are we watching, babe? Traders again. Oh, man. I say it every time. Why is it so good? Why do we like this show? It is...

Riveting to me. Mesmerizing. You know what? I'm having a real problem with that Danielle. Not my favorite.

I don't even... I can't... I don't know what... She was on the Challengers before, or Survivor, I think. Big Brother or something? One of them. I don't care. I'm like, her game is so messy. I cannot believe that people haven't just immediately said, what's the deal? Gabby, a couple times, was like... This last episode, Gabby, in the morning breakfast table, she said, it's a lot. It's giving a lot. The crying and the shaking. Shaking. Shaking. When somebody else... It's not real shaking. ...doesn't show up the next... It's not. It's fake. It's not even...

Is it that good of faking where people are ignoring it? I'm surprised no one's caught on to it. It's like bad soap opera in the 80s acting. Yeah, it drives me nuts. But when them motherfucking traitor episodes pop up on the feed, ding, the world stops. I know, I know.

Babe, we have to first discuss the finale and the winners of Traders. Oh, wow. Spoiler alert. There were four winners. Yep. It was our girl who we had a feeling she did great. I didn't know she fucking won it. Dolores Catania from Patterson, New Jersey. Yes.

You fucking did it. You did it. So proud of you. Along with Ivar, along with Zac Efron's brother. Yeah. I remember his first name. And along with... Gabby. Gabby. Gabby from The Bachelorette. Who's a really quirky... She is quirky and funny. I think she has an acting career ahead of her. She's...

I don't know if she has an acting career, but she could definitely have like a podcasting or like a... I think she has a podcast. She has one. I mean, I don't know if she could say lines because she definitely has like that young Jennifer Tilly. I bet you she can act. I have a feeling she can act. It would be a specific... Yes. It's very good, babe. She'd be like a young Jennifer Tilly. But Jennifer Tilly obviously had a skill to do that. Yes.

So I don't know. I don't know. She kind of looks like she's... Babe, when she was at... Listen, if you could be on reality TV the way she is, this girl Gabby, I think she's very special. Very unique. Very unique. I've seen her on interviews. She's like...

Fucking out there. Out there in a world of her own. But it's a welcoming world. And she's funny as all get out. She is. Yeah, she is. But the four of them won. The four faithfuls won. And it went down to the wire. It was nerve wracking. The end. Spoiler alert. Oh, no, we just told it. It's a week later. I know, but I'm just saying in the very end, you know, when I was kind of questioning Dolores' skill.

I'm still questioning it. I think she got lucky. But I think that her natural ability...

I don't know, just to be who she is got her that far because she's so likable. Yeah. And you know, but at the very end when they're around the fire pit and you have to throw in your thing that turns green or red or... They were making it seem like she... The editing. Her facial expressions too were like, oh shit, I chose red and this game is... We're going to have to annihilate somebody else. And she didn't. I was really nervous. And when that thing went up green, I was so happy. I was so happy too. And...

And I don't know if there is a real formula. I mean, I feel like when I'm watching that show and as close as we watch it, I feel like that show takes you on a ride. And like, you know, there's not like, well, this is how you win the show. It's kind of the breaks, the luck of the draw. She was definitely below the radar for a lot of it. Yeah. Which I think is smart, but not too below because then they think you're like... She said on Watch What Happens Live that she was choosing...

every time to eliminate because she was angry. He was annoying her. She was annoying. Which I thought was... And she said, I let my temper get the best of me and like,

So this whole time I said, oh, it's a strategy. You know, she's picking Trom because nobody else is picking him. And to pick the same person that is annoying you kind of seems like a strategy to not call the attention on other people. You know what I'm saying? But it wasn't. She did great. Ivar, he definitely laid low. They won it. It was a fucking great season. I love that show so much. The only thing that sucks about that show is that

We have to wait like a year, literally. Yeah, for the next season. It's like the Super Bowl. Like, we have to literally wait until who knows when, January of 2020. Well, we could be watching the British version. Maybe we need to check that out. Yeah. But again, can't emphasize, if you guys have never seen Traders and you want a good, fun, reality competition show, Traders Season 3. The best. The best.

Thank you guys for listening. Thank you guys for watching. Subscribe, rate, review, tell a friend to tell a friend. You should let me do this part because you can barely talk. Subscribe, rate, and review. Please tell a friend to tell a friend. We love that you're listening. And we'll be back next week with Michael having a better voice. Love you. Love you. Bye.

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