We're sunsetting PodQuest on 2025-07-28. Thank you for your support!
Export Podcast Subscriptions
cover of episode Cheryl Burke’s Pickleball Date with a “Bachelor”

Cheryl Burke’s Pickleball Date with a “Bachelor”

2025/6/28
logo of podcast I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

AI Deep Dive AI Chapters Transcript
People
C
Cheryl Burke
H
Heather
Topics
Cheryl Burke: 我目前的情感状态复杂,既要处理过去,又要迎接新的工作挑战,感觉自己被拉向四面八方。尽管如此,我开始以更开放的心态看待约会,这与我过去的态度截然不同。我意识到,过去的情感经历需要被正视和疗愈,这样才能为未来的个人生活做好准备。在妹妹的婚礼上,我选择放下手机,全身心地投入其中,这让我更加享受当下,也让我对爱情有了新的期待。虽然我仍然对某些类型的男性有所保留,比如有出轨记录的人,或者过度依赖娱乐圈的人,但我更看重内在的平衡和稳定。我希望找到一个能够与我共同成长,同时又能保持独立个性的伴侣。最重要的是,我需要一个能够理解和支持我的事业,而不是与我竞争聚光灯的人。经济上的稳定固然重要,但对我来说,更重要的是情感上的契合和精神上的支持。总而言之,我正在经历一个转变,从过去的封闭和抵触,到现在的开放和期待,我相信只要保持真诚和积极的心态,就能吸引到真正适合我的人。 Heather: 我观察到Cheryl的情感状态和约会观点发生了显著的转变。过去,她对约会持非常谨慎和封闭的态度,但现在她变得更加开放和积极。我认为这种转变源于她对过去经历的疗愈和对未来的期待。我鼓励她继续保持这种开放的心态,并尝试新的约会方式,比如参加社交活动或者与朋友介绍的对象见面。我也建议她更加关注内在的连接,而不是过分强调外在的条件。我相信只要她坚持做自己,就能吸引到真正欣赏她的人。此外,我也提醒她要警惕那些有不良记录的人,比如有出轨历史或者过度依赖娱乐圈的人。总而言之,我对Cheryl的未来充满信心,我相信她一定能够找到属于自己的幸福。

Deep Dive

Shownotes Transcript

Translations:
中文

This is an iHeart Podcast. Did you know women are more likely than men to develop dry eyes, which may be due to hormonal changes during the menstrual cycle or after menopause and the use of oral contraceptives? Give your dry, burning, or irritated eyes a daily refresh with Refresh Optive Mega 3 Lubricant Eye Drops, a preservative-free formula that provides fast-acting, lasting relief.

Okay, I love 3rd Love. For over a decade, they have been the leader in making the best bras on the market.

And now they have taken it to a whole other level with their latest innovation. It's called Tempsync bras and undies. And they are the first of their kind made with breakthrough thermoregulating fabric. They're designed to keep you at that perfect temp before you ever break a sweat, even through menopause and hot flashes and chills. I'm going to tell you, these are the most comfortable bras I have ever worn.

ThirdLove thoughtfully designs solutions for every stage of your life. Visit thirdlove.com and use code podcast 15 for $15 off your order. The best AI assistant isn't one that knows the whole world. It's one that knows your world. A custom assistant built on Watson X with IBM's granite models can leverage your trusted data, be easily trained on your workflows and integrate with your apps.

Welcome back to 1999.

It's time for an upgrade. At public.com, you can invest in almost everything. Stocks, bonds, options, and more. You could even put your cash to work at an industry-leading 4.1% APY. Leave your clunky, outdated platform behind at public.com. Go to public.com and fund your account in five minutes or less. Paid for by Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA, and SIPC. Full disclosures at public.com slash disclosures.

Wells Fargo seeks broad impact in their communities, focused on supporting customers and communities through housing affordability, small business growth, financial health, and more. Donated over $2 billion to strengthen local communities over the last five years. Wells Fargo, the bank of doing. Learn more at wellsfargo.com slash say do. Support includes contributions from Wells Fargo & Company, Wells Fargo Bank N.A., and the Wells Fargo Foundation.

Welcome back to I Do Part Two. It's one of your celebrity mentors here on the pod, Sheryl Burke.

And today, my producer, Heather, wanted me to pop on the mic because she said she had some fun news to tell me. Uh-oh, I hate surprises. Heather, I'm literally, look, all ears. Go. Hi, Cheryl. How's it going? Good. It's been a while. I know. I know. Since we had our really, really sad Valentine's Day episode. Was it not the last time that we did this together? I mean, I talked to you after that.

We've talked since then, but that's the last time the audience heard from us. We were doing a really sad episode, I think, that a lot of people ended up listening to. A lot of single people. Yeah, I know that we weren't alone. We weren't alone. We definitely were not alone.

But I wanted to kind of catch up with you a little bit before we kind of dive into that, you know, little fun surprise that I said I wanted to talk to you about. But I wanted to kind of hear from you, and I know our listeners do too, about like,

what you've been up to lately how have you been feeling um obviously you you've been getting a lot of press and like you know been talking to the press a lot about what's been going on in terms of online stuff that you've been receiving but i kind of wanted to know overall like how is cheryl doing

Did you also hear in the press that they asked me the big D question about dating? And I was like, no, we're not there yet. Well, we're going to dive into all of that, of course. But tell me right now on this day, how is Cheryl doing?

Cheryl is a little... I feel like I'm being pulled a million different directions. I'm also working on another, which we haven't announced yet, but I'm working on another show and we're busy pitching that. But it's a whole different vibe, like I told you before we pressed record here. But what I've noticed, the pattern has been me having to grieve whatever or however that may be my past. It is shoved in my face and I have to deal with it because...

because I have no choice, right? Like in order for me to move on. And a lot of what I just mentioned that I was doing has a lot to do with that. And I think will help me when it comes to my personal life as well. Yeah, I kind of just wanted to talk to you about that because obviously it's the summer, right? Summertime is also- Hot girl summer. Hot girl summer, but also wedding season, right? And I know that you were just-

a part of your sister's wedding. And so I kind of wanted to know what that was like for you as somebody you've talked about on this podcast that you've went through and you had the big wedding yourself and the big wedding became an event for you and all of that. Now being on the other side of things and being a guest at a wedding and it's your sibling, what was that experience like for you? Did you have a date or were you solo? Kind of tell me a little bit about that.

Yeah, I had a few dates. I'm kidding. That doesn't even sound right coming out of my mouth. But okay, so a lot of things happened. One, I was a makeup artist. So I didn't have time to even do my own makeup, let alone, you know, I had to focus on my sister. Like I was her makeup artist for that weekend, I would say, because it was rehearsal dinner and wedding. I didn't have, I was so, I brought all of Sephora with me and I filled my car up to the roof, literally,

literally was like a mobile beauty department store. That was my actual car, right? Driving from wherever I live to the Bay Area and

checked in, took me two days to unpack literally just my OCD was in full effect. So other than that, and me thinking I had appendicitis, um, the morning of her wedding thinking I had to go straight to the ER, it was all smooth. It went great. Be real with me for a second though, because I went through both of my sisters getting married. We've already talked about this, that I've never been married, um, or engaged. And, uh,

you know one of those was a little tougher for me than the other um really yeah seeing my younger sister get married and start a family and you know my other sister they've been married and you know the kind of comments that I got at that wedding oh interesting when is it gonna be your turn always a bridesmaid never a bride like these kinds of comments were people said that to you and

And so I kind of just want to know, like, even though you were totally in it and being an active, supportive member of your sister's, you know, thing, like being there for the makeup, was there ever any moments, either the drive up or sitting there where you, where it was emotional for you in a different way? I think it's more of a personal thing with my sister and I and our, we've gone through a lot with each other and, um,

What was interesting. So, so to answer your question, if you're trying to ask about like, did it bring up my ex-husband or like that time together? No, actually not at all. I was really choosing to be present. I put my phone away. It was so emotional for the both of us. Cause yes, we do have an age gap. I didn't get any, you know, crazy Filipinos from my family come up to me and be like, you know, how are you feeling? Like none of that happened.

I think the emotional side was just my sister. I think of my little sister as my daughter, you know, and I,

I don't want to talk more about it than what I am talking about. But like, you know, this has been very emotional between us. It's been a roller coaster. And, you know, like anybody's relationship, we evolve and some people do it together and some people don't. And like when I tell you we were so close, like we would go on like extravagant, luxurious vacations when we were both single in the past. And then, you know, we all...

meet other our other halves and and stuff happens and so like it was just beautiful to be able to be present and my sister has said something when i was doing her and my sister was so emotional like literally it was like and as she should be right it was her day but it was a different type of emotion that i never actually felt and since we were both single in france together hopping around you know so it's like more of a family internal thing than it was um a

you know, so sad that I'm not married still type thing. I mean, was there any anxiety? I mean, I know I've felt this before having to go to a wedding alone, you know, having to sit at a table with people alone, having to hit the dance floor with people that you maybe don't know. That wasn't the experience. You didn't have anxiety about being by yourself. No, actually, I

Now for my cousin's wedding, the first wedding I went to after, like, cause it was my first wedding that I attended since my wedding. Yes, definitely. My sister. No, I knew everybody, you know, it was all of our friends and family, but I, there were a couple of cute guys and there was this one single dude.

okay there was this one single guy what happened there excuse me what happened taking me through the timeline so once i was done with my makeup artist duties i was able to actually look up for my makeup brushes and i see other humans and so funny because strategically i'm pretty sure my sister and her husband put me next to this one dude who was single best friends with the groom

And on paper, like I actually did ask about this guy soon after I got divorced. And I was like, oh, what's his deal? Because I always like saw him whenever like he's gathering, like he's always bringing a new chick. And I was like, is this guy, what's, you know, he's a year older than me or something like that. And I was like, what's his deal? You know, like, does he have commitment issues? Like what's happening? First, when I mentioned him, the response from my sister's husband wasn't like very responsive. So I was like, oh, maybe it's not.

maybe either they think I'm not good for him or whatever. And now they kept like kind of saying, so like my sister goes, you know, I met my husband on a Raya. Like, do you think you should? And I was like, no, I don't think I should, but you might convince me maybe later down the road. Who knows? Never say never. But she's like, and I said, but how about your, the, you know, your husband's friend. And she goes,

yeah, yeah. I'm single. Do you think you're ready? And I was like, if I meet somebody authentically like that, it's different, right? Like it's different than having to go on a dating app. I'm sorry, but would that not be the cutest story ever? Like it would until, until we met at my sister's wedding queue until something happened and it was such a turnoff and I don't want to say it. Cheryl, you have to tell me. I can't, I can't, I can't, you can't hear it.

my god okay you have to tell me later then but I will but it was nothing to do with me it had everything to do with his actions and all I'm gonna say is that I'm sober

Well, I can deduce, right? What happens at a wedding, you know, is people tend to... I don't know. I don't know if this happens at a wedding. I hope it doesn't. Got it. Okay. Something happened not at the wedding that turned you off. No, it happened at the wedding. At the dinner. At the freaking dinner reception. Okay. We'll talk about it later. It's not my business to put it out there. Sure. But it wasn't... There wasn't a connection. No, there was. There was a connection until that happened.

Okay, well, let me ask you this, Cheryl. First of all, I have already told you. I just gave you a hint when I said I'm sober. I know. And I was about to say, Cheryl, I commend you on your sobriety. You know that. Thank you. And I think that that is also for anybody that I know in life that is sober and in a partnership, it is something that I have had conversations about with people where I say, even if you don't have a problem, you're

Or your partner doesn't have a problem, but has chosen that style. You need to choose that lifestyle as well as being in a partnership with somebody. I'm not saying that he should have been so like, I'm not saying that, but there's levels. I was going to say,

Was this a moment of indiscretion that we were at something or were you like, no, this is probably a lifestyle difference. It's a lifestyle. I asked. Yeah. It's a lifestyle difference. And if it were me 10 years ago, it would be a match. A hundred percent. Yeah. And listen, kudos to you for recognizing that right up front. And who knows? It's a shame. Yeah.

But also maybe things change later on. You know what I mean? And then there's another dude. It's not just one. Okay, so talk about that. What happened? So during the rehearsal, like the actual rehearsal at my parents' best friend's home where the wedding took place, we were practicing these walk-downs. And I was originally paired with somebody and then I got switched. And I was like, oh, rude. Anyway, so...

Cute, quiet. He was cute and quiet. And yeah. So I asked my sister, like not obviously on her wedding day, but like, oh no, she brought it up when I did her makeup on her wedding day that morning. And she's like, what do you think of so-and-so? And I was like,

Yeah. Like, I don't know. He seems really sweet. I don't freaking know. We literally were just walking elbow to elbow two seconds. I thought I was in a face plant and he saved my life and that was it. And she, and I said, but doesn't he have a girl? I thought I saw him with a girl. She goes, yeah, but they've been fighting supposedly. I'm like, Nicole, just because they're fighting on that day. I'm not going to be the, first of all, I'm no, I am not somebody's rebound. Okay. So yeah,

But that's so funny. That's bringing up a memory of a wedding I went to as well, where somebody was like, they're on the outs, blah, blah, blah. Like somebody's having one argument. And it was no, it was like people went in on an argument at the wedding and they were like, yeah, they're on the outs. And so anyways, what I'm hearing and what I'm liking about this catch up, Cheryl, is that...

I'm open. There's attraction sparking for you too. Yeah. I'm not blind. Yeah. But like literally Cheryl, I think six months ago when we were talking, you would be like hard pass. Like no way. No way. My eyes are down. I am not. Yeah. When you're talking dating apps or anybody in this business. Yes.

Sure. But I don't think I've heard you express like even when I was like, what about a guy at the grocery store? You're like, I get my groceries delivered. It's true. I would say the same damn thing today. It's very true. But look, you went to a wedding. I had to go to a wedding. But there were two attractive men in your orbit. So I think that's a good sign. I think it's a good sign. But that's...

But that's what I mean. Just so you know, just so we are clear. This is what I mean by meeting somebody like that, right? Like I don't go to weddings. I'm not a makeup artist, nor do I ever. That was so traumatizing. I will never do it again. But that's how you meet people. Yeah. No, no, no. I agree. I agree. I agree.

Okay, I have to tell you about something. Third Love, for over a decade, they have been making the best bras, the best fitting bras. They're so comfortable and I am in love with them. Now, you guys, they are taking it to the next level with their latest innovation. TempSync bras and undies are the first of their kind. Yeah, this technology has been around for years in men's apparel.

Hi, it's time for us ladies to have it. Made with breakthrough thermoregulating fabric, it keeps you the perfect temp before you even think about sweating. This technology is so great for those hot flashes and chills that we're all going to experience. This is the only bra and undie collection engineered to keep us at the perfect temp. What I love about Third Love is it's

A, the colors. I'm obsessed with the blue that's out right now. And I am also loving the fact that they come in half sizes because, you know, things change. Our bodies change, grow, do different things. And sometimes we just have different size cups. Third Love designs solutions for every stage of life, including perimenopause and menopause.

They have 60 plus sizes, including, like I said, those exclusive half cup sizes for a perfect fit, staying cool, more lift, back smoothing, all the things. They are wear tested on real ladies, made from top quality materials for lasting comfort and support from a double A to H cup.

Visit thirdlove.com and use code podcast15 for $15 off your order. One of the best parts about having a partner is sharing everything with them, including your fantasies, whether you're looking to set the mood, try something new, or just share a little excitement. Dipsy's spicy audio stories are the best way for you and your partner to explore something new.

Dipsy is the female-founded app for spicy audiobooks and more, created by women for the female gaze. Their app has over 1,000 spicy audiobooks, all crafted by a team of professional writers and top-tier narrators. Whether you're looking for a rugged cowboy or a Scottish sailor, a sexy rendition of Pride and Prejudice, or the god of the underworld, you'll find characters you'll love on Dipsy.

With their easy-to-explore app, you can search for your favorite romance genres like contemporary, historical, dark, sports, western, romanticist, sapphic, and more. New chapters are released every single week, so you'll always find something new to enjoy. Right now, you can get a 30-day free trial plus 25% off your annual subscription when you go to dipsystories.com slash part2.

That's D-I-P-S-E-A stories.com slash part two for 33 days and 25% off your subscription. Dipsystories.com slash part two. Your business deploys AI pilots everywhere, but are they going anywhere or are they stuck in silos, exhausting resources, unable to scale? Maybe you don't need hundreds of AI pilots. You need a holistic strategy.

IBM has 65,000 consultants with Gen AI expertise who can help you design, integrate, and optimize AI solutions. So you're not just deploying AI, you're scaling it across your business. Learn more at ibm.com slash consulting. IBM, let's create. Aging is a natural process, as we all know. And we, at The Deep Dive, we embrace it. But I will tell you one thing about aging that I don't care for.

It's the symptoms that stem from changing hormones, especially as you get closer to perimenopause and menopause. That's why, listeners, I want to tell you about Happy Mammoth's Hormone Harmony. It's all over social media.

Happy Mammoth, the company that created Hormone Harmony, uses science-backed ingredients that have been proven to work for women. Hormone Harmony is perfect for those menopause symptoms that put a woman's life on hold. Hot flashes, night sweats, racing thoughts, low moods, poor sleep, gas, no desire to be in bed next to someone, if you know what I mean. Yeah, Hormone Harmony can help with all of these things. I've noticed that Hormone Harmony

I've noticed a little extra pep in my step since I started taking the Hormone Harmony supplement, and I love feeling more energetic. For a limited time, you can get 15% off your entire first order at HappyMammoth.com. Just use the code JENNY at checkout. You know what's great about your investment account with the big guys? It's actually a time machine. Log in and Zoom. Welcome back to 1999.

It's time for an upgrade. At public.com, you can invest in almost everything. Stocks, bonds, options, and more. You could even put your cash to work at an industry-leading 4.1% APY. Leave your clunky, outdated platform behind at public.com. Go to public.com and fund your account in five minutes or less. Paid for by Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA, and SIPC. Full disclosures at public.com slash disclosures.

I want to know, like I said, we're halfway through the year. At this moment, I want to know what kind of guy...

You are open to attracting into your life. I'm not going to say the term looking for, because we're not looking for anybody, but no kind of man. Are you interested in attracting to you at this time? What kind of material? No qualities, physical and personality wise. What are you looking for? What is what's getting your head to turn? Yeah.

You know how they say that you're attracted to your father or your dad? No, I don't believe in that sentiment. No, I definitely, especially if you've been abandoned by your father when you were, yeah, no, I believe in it. Like I would tell you every man I've dated seriously has been, has especially my ex-husband identical to my father. Okay. But like I was saying, my therapist, she's like, can we start attracting taller men? Yeah.

But it's so funny because the guy that I actually liked who had the girlfriend was also a shorty. Hey, listen. Short kings need the love too. Yeah, just put a couple platform heels in there and we're good.

I like that you're, but also listen, attraction. That is just, I'm not talking deep. Clearly right now, that is just straight up physical. Attraction's attraction. You know what I mean? For me, I might like make some people upset hearing this in the I do part two world. I'm not really attracted to bald men. That's my thing. Okay. And I don't think that that is true.

I don't want to say I discriminate against bald men, but I don't.

It's not what turns my head. Sorry. No, but what if you're stuck in a line during a wedding and you're doing, you know, I have to tell you, like I did lately and I'm very proud of myself for this. It's not about, Oh, what do you look like? Then I'll talk to you. It's more like, let me like, we're just naturally talking as two people who are being sat next to each other do right then. And then I'm like, Oh, this is what you physically look like, you know? Cause it

Because there's like, that's when I'm... Then if the conversation is interesting enough, then that's when I'll take a double look, right? Yeah. I mean, listen, yeah, you can be as attractive... But what... I'm just saying, what if a baldy and you had such a deep conversation? I mean...

I mean, I look, there's always a Jason Statham, right? Joey Lawrence doesn't tickle your pickle. Not, not personally, but I was just today, but in the nineties, maybe. Yeah. But he wasn't bald then. Correct. I know now he's bald. I said, but maybe he would have tickled your pickle. There's always a Jason Statham who like is really rocking the bald look. Right. And like that's a thing and that's hot. But look,

Of course, there's exceptions to rules. It's always about kindness first. So you don't like the bald that is being forced to be bald? I don't like receding hairline. I don't like... Oh, you're real picky. Listen. So am I. I love a girl that knows what she wants. Personally, I don't think that's picky. I think that you... No.

I think you talk to a man any day of the week and he's going to give you a laundry list of what turns his head for a woman. So for me, being able to name one thing that I'm not interested in, I really don't. Sorry, I do part two people. If that like is offensive, I'm sure anybody that is dating somebody that is bald, it's like, that's great for you. It's just personally not what. Yeah.

Totally. Now, never say never again. What if your conversation is so sexy that all of a sudden you look up and or you did love is blind and he was bald. Who knows? Or I'm 55 and I'm still single and they're all bald. You know what I mean? Like what's wrong with 55 and single? I'm just adding years.

I want to know what your... This is a dual conversation, okay? No, it's not, because... 100%. You're not interviewing me. This is not what we agreed to. Cheryl, I am... We're catching up. I'm not in the market. What? Why? Are you taken? No. Your girl is way too damaged right now to be getting into... That's okay. That doesn't mean we can't have the conversation. Sure. I mean, listen...

For me, in my local area, I've said this so many times, I live by a Whole Foods that gets a lot of traction. You don't Instacart.

I do my Instacart. Um, and it's by the beach. And the first time I went in there, I was shocked at how many men I saw at the grocery store. I don't think I'd ever seen that many men before at one grocery store. Like single young men. I don't know if it's single, but that amount of men at the grocery store, I've never seen it before. And it's every time I go there every time. Um,

I should go to your grocery store if I ever go into one.

Nothing is resonating with me right now. Are they flirting with you? No, no, no. I'm not talking to anybody. No, are they? No, no. Literally, the light bulb is off. Like my taxi light is off and it is like... Do not come near me. Yeah, listen. I don't think I'm giving like RBF like everywhere I'm walking, but it's just I know...

that I'm not putting out the signal that I'm interested, but you- That is true. No, no, that is very, but that is very true, by the way, we're all energy. So yes, I was on that train. I can tell right now in our conversation that you're putting out the signal. You're putting out the energy right now. Yep.

Yeah. I mean, if it happens, it happens. Now, this is what I don't want. Are we ready? Tell me what you do want. I want to be positive. No. Yeah. No, no, no. Because I don't know necessarily. I can tell you what I don't want. I don't think I can tell you what I want. Okay. Sure. Like, I think it's a mix. Now, this is what I don't want because I am...

I don't want anybody with a track record of cheating. I think that's fair. I don't know if I want somebody in the entertainment industry. I'm leaning towards no. Okay. I'm going to say... No one's asking. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm going to say as somebody that knows you, that I think that you don't need another entertainer

Yeah. I think you still need somebody. Or a reality star. I don't need that. That's still entertainment. I think that you need someone entertainment adjacent. I could see you being with a talent agent or a talent. Maybe. Yes, yes, yes. Or an entertainment attorney. Yes. Even better. That was my first and last date. Remember? Yeah.

Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying like that to me is it creates commonality in a relationship. Yes, I agree. But also I do believe the sentiment a lot of times when you hear people say there can only be like one star in the relationship. And I really do think that. I do believe that. You are the star when you're in a relationship with somebody. That's, that is. It's not true. Well, actually I wouldn't, I wouldn't know. Stars can change.

Yes, they do. And have different times. But you right now in this chapter of your life, you are the star. And if you were to get into a partnership with somebody tomorrow, they would need to be supportive of that star right now in this chapter. Yeah. Yeah. Because like it's exhausting if it's competitive. You can't be in competition with your partner for the spotlight. That will never work.

That's why they say opposites attract in that sense. And this is why I gravitated towards the quiet guy at the wedding. I fully get that, Cheryl. And I will tell you why. I have never been attracted to the alpha male. I have. It's so weird, but never dated one. I've always told people I am attracted to quiet confidence. And I tend to like a more subdued energy because I've dated the...

shot shots guy and the everybody party guy and it's like i don't like that guy i don't like so funny that you say that because i actually initially i think i'm attracted to them i never end up with them one but two i have only started recently appreciating the quiet the only confidence by the way there's only one way and it's the quiet one there there really is because the loud confidence not so i could fight anybody about it that's not confidence to me um

I hear that. I agree with that. For me, I'm...

I'm really mellow in real life. Like, you know, outside of work, I, yeah, I do not like to be in the mix. And so like a quiet energy is more what I tend to gravitate towards too. Now the problem with a quiet energy is they don't always make those first moves, right? Especially in the dating scene, it can be really hard sometimes for them to make the move. And personally, I,

I've had to in anything I've been in that's been substantial. I've made those first moves. And what's wrong with that? Well, now in my reflective chapter that I'm in at this time, I'm wondering if I've ever been hoarded and I don't think I have. Interesting. It's really difficult because... So it's not, you mean on a deeper level like then...

Not necessarily a physical, like I guess corded meaning like making plans, going out like to dinner, him paying for it, him opening your door. No, that's happened. I'm talking about initial first moves. I'm now in a place, Cheryl, in my head where I'm looking back at everything in the rear view mirror and I'm thinking, okay,

Did that person actually ever want to be with me? They never initiated the early stages of the relationship. I did. Did I just find somebody that was like open to it, but like not really in it?

It changes. Cheryl every day for me is a new trauma, but I, are you in therapy? Yes. Yes. Cheryl. Yes, yes, yes. But I want to know. Okay. So we know that you don't want an entertainer. We know that you, no, I never said that. I didn't say I don't want, I said, I don't think I want meaning like I keep going back and forth. Now, again, if he is in my zeitgeist and we do have great,

and we have great conversations and there's an attraction, I'm not going to be like, oh, sorry. Yeah. Can't do it. You know, like I'm just saying from what I, this is all, again, this is all on the surface stuff. Like, look at the end of the day,

I mean, this is why for me to be like, oh, dark, brown hair. It's just so minuscule as to what I really, I really want a partner. I want somebody who balances, we can balance each other out, but we still stay as two individuals. That is so important to me. And that someone, I need somebody that can also put me in my place sometimes because I can get, you know, a little like, whoa, like,

overbearing sometimes, but not in a rude way, in a way where it's quiet. It's, it's secure. It doesn't make me feel abandoned. It makes me feel like, first of all, nobody can make me feel anything. Right. So I'm going to continue doing the work, but like, he needs to be so like stable and confident that in a way where it compliments the work that I'm going to continue to do for the rest of my life. And that's all I can say. Cause it's so deep. It goes deeper. Yeah.

What about like financial stability at this? Yeah, but that's all again, that that is just icing on. Yes, yes, yes. All of it. I think that to me, Cheryl, as somebody who you've done, but that's not what's going to be like my very first conversation with the person, right? Like either we're going to talk, we're either going to connect or we're not like whoever it is. And this is what I've also realized. No setting updates. Like I can't. This is what makes me not act authentic. Yeah.

And what I know for sure, it makes the other person actually weird, like for sure. And it's like, if we meet in a group setting, like, and this is why this wedding thing happened. So great. Like it was, I mean, in my head, but it was just like, no pressure. There was no freaking pressure. We were there doing the same activities, but we were just there supporting the people we love. Right. Like, and there wasn't the weird, let's go to pot J and I'm going to end up

not knowing what to order. And then I'm going to order what you have. Like there's none of that. It's just weird. That's weird. Yeah, no, no, no. You kind of got my wheels turning though. Now, Cheryl, I want to know just out of curiosity, have you ever like played pickleball or my mom does?

Your mom does. Okay. She's not single. Outside of dance, have you ever done anything kind of athletic or sports-y like outside of dance? You realize that I was the MVP of my basketball team, right? Oh, wait, what? No, I did not know this about you. My mom put me in

Everything girl. Like I went to tennis, Stanford tennis camp every freaking summer. Like it was, I was going to be a professional tennis player. Cheryl. So you can play tennis, which means I know what pickleball is. I know. I want to know though. What I think is kind of cute about pickleball is.

Is it cute? You don't say I get competitive. We're trying to win. Okay. I love that. But what I think as a non athlete, which is kind of cute about pickleball is it falls into that tennis category of like the themed outfit attire, like that whole part of it. You don't care about somebody who likes makeup and wears cute outfits and does cute videos. That is not something you like. I will. I do. I do.

I do now, but back then I was like, I'm going to be Serena Williams. No, we're talking now. We're talking about the present day. If you were to come... Okay, so here, I'm just going to rip the band. Okay, okay. Is this the big reveal? This is the big reveal. We cut to commercial. We're cutting to commercial first. Your business deploys AI pilots everywhere. But are they going anywhere? Or are they stuck in silos, exhausting resources, unable to scale?

Maybe you don't need hundreds of AI pilots. You need a holistic strategy. IBM has 65,000 consultants with Gen AI expertise who can help you design, integrate, and optimize AI solutions. So you're not just deploying AI. You're scaling it across your business. Learn more at ibm.com slash consulting. IBM, let's create. You know what's great about your investment account with the big guys? It's actually a time machine. Log in and Zoom. Welcome back to 1999.

It's time for an upgrade. At public.com, you can invest in almost everything. Stocks, bonds, options, and more. You could even put your cash to work at an industry-leading 4.1% APY. Leave your clunky, outdated platform behind at public.com. Go to public.com and fund your account in five minutes or less.

Paid for by Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA, and SIPC. Full disclosures at public.com slash disclosures. Did you know age is one of the most common causes of dry eyes because we can produce fewer tears as we get older? Give your dry, burning, or irritated eyes a daily refresh with Refresh Optive Mega 3 Lubricant Eye Drops, a preservative-free formula that provides fast-acting, lasting relief.

These artificial tears deliver enhanced hydration that nourishes the eye surface to help protect your natural tears from evaporating. Specially crafted with inactive ingredients like natural plant-based oil and antioxidants and enhanced with moisture locking technology, this triple action formula works to soothe symptoms and prevent further irritation.

Refresh Optive Mega 3 is safe to use as often as needed. Find your refresh online or in the eyedrop aisle at your favorite drugstore, grocery, Walmart, or Target. So I just gave my summer wardrobe a much needed refresh. Cute dresses, breezy linen sets, but then I realized I had no sandals to go with anything.

Enter the Macy's Great Sandal Sale, and it could not have come at a better time. Right now it's buy one pair, get 40% off or buy two or more and get 50% off. So yes, I stocked all the way up. I grabbed some gorgeous platform sandals from Steve Madden that give every outfit a little lift, plus these dreamy strappy heels from Dolce Vita that are perfect for the summer celebrations I have coming up.

And for days I'm running errands or sightseeing, well, I added a pair of Clarks to the mix because comfort is key and they've totally stepped up their style game. Whether your summer plans include celebrations, weekend trips, or just upgrading your work look, Macy's has it all. Shop the Macy's Great Sandal Sale at macys.com or in store from June 25th through July 7th.

This is Jenny Garth from I Do Part Two. Can't afford Ozempic? Try Wagovi from Future Health. Just $199 and FDA approved for weight loss. No insurance or tricky syringes needed, just results. Visit futurehealth.com. That's future without the E and start losing weight this week. Future Health Weight Law.

Data based on independent studies sponsored by Future Health. Future Health is not a healthcare services provider. Meds are prescribed at provider's discretion.

So we're doing a really fun pickleball event in Tahoe next month. And obviously, I Do Part Two is going to be there. So we thought, okay, Cheryl's going to be there. Who else from some of the, you know, other fun kind of podcasts that we do are going to be there? And then I had this really great idea because I was like,

Because we had this really amazing guy on I Do Part Two a couple weeks ago. And I'm...

I'm going to just say there are some like cute, like little similarities that I'm noticing. First of all, first and foremost. How tall is he? I actually don't know that off the top of my head, but I will tell you this. If you were to guess. What I really like about him and the possibility of you two getting along. Like becoming friends. I said getting along. I didn't say anything else. Like little friends first. He is.

talked about doing the work. And I know that that's important to you and has been your journey is about being open, talking about doing the work. So that to me, so he is divorced and, um, he does have two kids. Um, hold on. I'm going to text you his Instagram. Don't worry. I already did it. You're following, by the way, PS we're following each other. Right.

Cheryl, I love it. Your stupid surprise. You and your surprise. Maybe I should have gone with it because I couldn't anymore. Because I was like, this is way... Don't... We're following each other already. Wait, I love this. So obviously, listeners, we are talking about J.P. Rosenbaum, who was recently on the podcast. If you didn't listen to that episode, definitely go back. I've already had a therapy session about him, okay? But what I like about him, Cheryl, and the possibility of there being a nice...

you know, commonality between you two is one about how much growth he talked about on the pod about after his divorce and what that's been like for him personally, but also in his co-parenting relationship, I thought was really, really cool. And then second of all, I don't know. I don't know if you saw, but

He's been making headlines in this last week with his ex-wife, Ashley, because they just went on a really amazing family vacation with their kids. And it was just the two of them, it looked like, with their kids. And they were like posting and sharing about it. And it was just,

like really cool to see two parents that I mean you and I are both products of like you know divorce and stuff like and we know what that can be like growing up as kids it's

But we went on family vacations, though. You did. I did not. Well, we went to go visit my father at a strip club vacation. So I don't know how much that would be considered as a vacation. Family friendly or like a vacation. Definitely not Disneyland. I don't have those kinds of memories with my parents. And I think that that's something that's really respectable. Yes.

And I think it's also a really good testament of being able to check the ego, right? Because that's a huge part is like, he talked about how his ex-wife is already in a relationship. And at first that was, Oh, she's been, yeah. Cause they've been divorced for like over four years now. Oh, wow. Yeah. So it's been a minute. He also said some really nice and respectable things about his ex-wife's, you know, new partner. And yeah,

Because that person is around his kids and stuff like that. You know, he's really, really even keeled. So I really like that first and foremost. Even keeled. How do you know? Just because I think a man that is able to openly talk about that experience and have humility and grace when talking about their ex, I think speaks volumes.

That's what I mean. It didn't sound contagious. It didn't sound angry. It didn't sound dismissive. It sounded really nice. Mature and yes. And like somebody, like he said, that doesn't work, you know? So yes. Great. Yeah. And the fact that he has kids obviously is very, it's good that that happens. You don't want people, you know, I've been witness, a witness to people,

catching each other when kids are around and it's not necessarily the best environment. So you guys are following each other. Well, yeah, because we've had this discussion. Hey, hey, I do part two, folks. This is no surprise. I can't do surprises. You know that. But anyway, since you mentioned his name and since I got that lovely group text, I'm

Of course. Don't you know who you're talking to? I might as well be a private investigator. I mean, I love that. But like when we look at his Instagram, like what do we haven't looked at it yet? I just started. I just pressed the follow button. That doesn't mean I'm scrolling.

Can you look at it right now while you're on here with me? I can't really focus. I'm so bad at this. Okay, fine. As long as I can. I just want to know what your overall glance. Hold on. What do you want me to look at specifically? Just look at his page and like, what do you think? Oh, you mean the aesthetic? I can't do aesthetics. Because his aesthetic is. I love that he's Jewish. I'm Jewish. You know that, right? I don't know. I'm 54% or no, sorry. 53% Ashkenazi. Didn't know that my father lied to me this whole time.

Okay. Rest in peace. My Jewish father. Do you love the fact that he's like, look, he's on a boat. Like he lives in Miami. Okay. So we'll know if there's a connection, then I'm going to shake this man's hand. Okay. This is just all here. This is all great. Great. You know, I don't want someone to judge me off my happy Instagram either. Like this is not the real me, but you see on my Instagram. Okay. Okay.

My God, he looks like my dad. He looks like my dad. He just looks like my father a little bit. He looks a little bit like my dad. I don't know what to say other than I clearly still have daddy issues. Jesus. Jesus. Yeah, he looks like my father. He really does look like my dad here. I'm not joking. Not even a little bit. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Okay. That doesn't mean... I mean, that means, if anything, she's probably got a chance. I can't do that whole Instagram thing. It really is just so...

It's like small talk. It's nasty. Let me say this clearly by looking at the Instagram, right? The Instagram. We know that he's a dad. We know that he's a dad Jewish and looks like my daddy. And so right off, right off the rip from that,

Have you ever dated a single dad? Is that something that, you know, have you ever dreamed of or thought of yourself being a stepmom? By the way, kids, I love that he has kids like that has nothing to do with anything. I mean, honestly, it's yeah. No, I don't. I always said that it would be great to have somebody who has already had the kids because then I won't have the pressure of trying to have one or whatever it is, you know.

Yeah. Okay, cool. So it's not a turn off. I like that. Nothing has been a turn off yet. Cool. I like that. Like how optimistic I am. So what I'm, what we're scheming. No, we're not doing anything. You're just don't live in, get back down to earth. Okay. This is just two people that are single.

That you think would be a good match. That doesn't mean it is. We're having this fun pickleball event in Toronto. And there's going to be a lot of other people there. A lot of other people. Like, was this guy at the, I don't watch The Bachelor. Was he at Bachelor? So he won The Bachelorette.

So he wasn't the bachelor. No. So he went on Ashley's season. He married her. And what season was that? Oh my gosh. Like five or something. Wow. Like years ago, like 2011, 2012 or even before that. It's like, what does he do now? So he's a real estate developer in Miami. Interesting. He lives in Miami. Yeah. Yeah.

So he didn't stick into the reality TV world. I like that. I like it. I like it. He was a one and done kind of guy. I also love that he lives on the opposite side of the nation. I kind of like that he's like in a beach station. And it's like, you know, I'm not getting ahead of myself, but I'm just saying. You might be a little bit. No, I'm just saying that.

I think you should come to Tahoe. You should come to this pickleball event. Yes, I will. If I'm available. Yes. And it's just a group thing. And I also, now that you told me you were basically a tennis star, I feel like you need to. We're not announcing this. We're not going to. Do you understand? I was in seventh grade. Like, don't you dare? No, I'm just saying, I feel like it's time to wear a cute outfit. It's time to wear a cute outfit.

it's summertime and you're gonna show me what's up tons i don't play tennis i don't play pickleball but anyways it's got a shipment from zara it's in it's in it arrived we gotta open the box i'll leave you i'll leave you with this if anything that i feel like you and i have kind of learned in this last year is maybe to be a little bit more like our friend kelly ben simone i love kelly i

And just have fun. But wait, hold on. I just need to ask. Well, I mean, we all ask her, but what, what's the status of her and her dating life?

I think she's just, you know, having fun. A lot of these guys, and she'll say this too, a lot of these guys have either dated somebody that she knows or, you know, somebody that she was on TV with. And it's like, I understand the pool gets really small when you get to be a certain age. That's another thing. But, you know,

And she's gorgeous and she doesn't need to just be dating guys in New York. She could broaden the scope and like not be dating people that dated her co-stars. And does she know that though? Maybe it's all in her, you know? Maybe you can tell her that when you guys talk. I will. I do. I do tell her. Yeah.

I just think I'll leave you with that. Let's just maybe take a play, you know, out of Kelly Ben Simone's book and just have a little fun and go to this pickleball event. So I just love catching up with you today, Cheryl. This was so fun. I loved hearing just about that things are getting your attention now because I just think like six months ago, you weren't talking like this. So I just like, I like this conversation today. Well, thank you. And you know what?

Ditto. I'm for sure going to take a play out of fellow mentor Kelly Ben Simone's playbook and just see what happens because you never know. And of course, we're going to keep you guys posted on the pickleball event. My mom's going to be so proud. Okay. So if you're ready to date again, maybe you are, maybe you're not.

and you're just not exactly sure where to start like myself, call us or email us. We're here to guide you. All the info is in the show notes. Follow us on socials. Make sure to rate and review this podcast. ID part two and I Heart Radio podcast for falling in love is the main objective.

Career changers, including veterans and active duty service members. Your transition starts here. Go from GI to IT in a matter of months. Become a certified cyber warrior with training at My Computer Career. Cyber security specialists are in high demand, offering IT pros great opportunities and a rewarding lifestyle while protecting our people, liberty, and treasured institutions from cyber threats.

Deploy your career in IT today. Learn more at mycomputercareer.edu. SkillBridge and other VA benefits are available to those who qualify.

And here we have a specimen from the early 2000s, a legacy investing platform. Please don't touch the exhibit, folks. It could crash. Ready to step out of the financial history museum? At public.com, you can invest in almost everything, stocks, bonds, options, and more. You could even put your cash to work at an industry-leading 4.1% APY. Leave your clunky, outdated platform behind. Go to public.com and fund your account in five minutes or less.

Paid for by Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA, and SIPC. Full disclosures at public.com slash disclosures. This is Jenny Garth from I Do Part 2. Can't afford Ozempic? Try Wagovi from Future Health. Just $199 and FDA approved for weight loss. No insurance or tricky syringes needed. Just results. Visit futurehealth.com. That's future without the E. And start losing weight this week. Future Health Weight Loss.

Data based on independent studies sponsored by Future Health. Future Health is not a healthcare services provider. Meds are prescribed at provider's discretion. At California Psychics, we know some people can't read the career warning signs. Like your boss, still not knowing your name. You, Tina, Lisa, Sheila, what?

Whatever. Get that report to me by lunch. Okay. It's Carrie, ma'am? Just get it done, Terry. So talk to California Psychics and receive the career guidance you need. We only connect you with the very best. So guarantee, if your reading isn't life-changing, it's free. California Psychics.

Call 1-800-PREDICT today and get 20 minutes for just $20. Did you know that parents rank financial literacy as the number one most difficult life skill to teach? Meet Greenlight, the debit card and money app for families. With Greenlight, you can send money to kids quickly, set up chores, automate allowance, and keep an

This is an iHeart Podcast.