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Jana Kramer: 节目讨论了在约会中寻找真爱的主题,并邀请了嘉宾Kelly分享她的经验和感受。Jana Kramer引导话题,鼓励Kelly积极寻找爱情,并分享了她自己的一些观点和建议。 Kelly: Kelly分享了她参加Jingle Ball的经历,以及她在洛杉矶的约会经历。她谈到了她在寻找爱情过程中的一些挑战和困惑,以及她对未来伴侣的期待。她强调了情感安全感的重要性,并表达了她对找到一个能够给她带来安全感和归属感的伴侣的渴望。她还谈到了她如何克服过去的不安全感和负面经历,并积极地去寻找新的爱情。 Jana Kramer: Jana Kramer在节目中分享了她对爱情和关系的看法,并给Kelly提供了很多建议和支持。她鼓励Kelly保持自信,积极地去寻找爱情,并相信自己能够找到一个合适的伴侣。她还分享了她自己的一些经验和教训,并强调了在一段关系中,相互尊重和理解的重要性。

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What was Kelly's experience at the iHeartRadio Jingle Ball, and did she meet anyone interesting?

Kelly had a great time at the iHeartRadio Jingle Ball. She enjoyed meeting new people and even introduced some of her guests to others. One memorable encounter was with a man who had impressive jewelry, but it turned out he was married. Kelly also mentioned that she felt a strong connection to the experience and the people she met, which reinforced her belief in being open to new connections.

How did Kelly's client react when he revealed he was a player and had a preference for brunettes?

Kelly's client, a man in his mid-60s, told her he was a player and that he didn't like brunettes but was okay with her. Kelly was not interested and felt that his behavior was inappropriate. She firmly stated that she would not date him and pulled the 'mother card' to discourage any further advances.

What is the most important quality Kelly is looking for in a potential partner now?

Kelly is currently craving emotional safety in a relationship. She wants to feel secure and be able to include her partner in all aspects of her life, whether significant or insignificant. This sense of safety and emotional support is something she has never had before and is actively seeking.

Why does Kelly feel insecure, and how has her past affected her current relationships?

Kelly's insecurities stem from her past experiences, including her divorce and the negative media portrayal she faced. She feels that people often like the idea of her rather than the real her, which makes her question whether others are genuinely interested in her as a person. She is working on building her confidence and recognizing her true self despite the external judgments.

What bold step did Jana challenge Kelly to take, and did Kelly follow through?

Jana challenged Kelly to DM Kevin Costner on Instagram, suggesting a connection based on their shared love for horses. Kelly agreed and sent the DM, which included a playful message about their common interests and an invitation to meet in New York. Jana and Kelly are excited to see if Kevin responds.

What is Kelly's intention for 2025 in terms of her love life?

Kelly's intention for 2025 is to be in a serious, committed relationship that is moving forward towards marriage. She is open to meeting all kinds of people and is ready to take bold steps to find love, including DMing potential partners.

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Jana Kramer and Ellie Benzema discuss Ellie's experience at the iHeartRadio Jingle Ball and whether they believe there's such a thing as a perfect couple. They touch on the importance of mutual respect and admiration in relationships.
  • Ellie Benzema's experience at the iHeartRadio Jingle Ball
  • Discussion on the concept of a 'perfect couple'
  • Importance of mutual respect and admiration in relationships

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I do part two is a unique podcast that is all about finding love again. Maybe you didn't get it right the first time or maybe you had love and you lost it. And now you're getting back out into the dating scene. Well, I'm one of your hosts, Jana Kramer. And today I wanted to touch base with one of our celebrity mentors. You love her on this podcast, former real housewife of New York, Ellie Benzema. Kelly.

Can I just first, just, can we just talk about how beautiful you looked at the iHeartRadio jingle balls? Jingle balls, jingle bells, jingle ball. Jingle balls. I mean, you just...

And it was so funny. My husband, when, you know, I had my husband come in and meet everyone because he hasn't met the I Do Part Two crew. He's like, I feel like I've seen her. I was like, she was probably up like on a, you know, like you probably had her on your walls or something. Cause she's, she's a, she's a model. She's beautiful. He's like, yeah, she's like, she's a, she's a beautiful lady. I was like, I know she's stunning. Thank you. That's so nice. Oh my God. And you guys,

You guys are the greatest couple. You guys are so sweet and loving and just, oh God, you're just like the perfect couple. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, that's very sweet to say. I don't know if there's, do you actually believe that there's a perfect couple? I believe, I mean, you guys have that. I mean, you guys have just like nice, really just quality energy. It's just like, you know, he's really respectful of you and you're really respectful of him. And I just think that's just like,

Those are like couple goals when you have mutual admiration, mutual respect. That's just, I mean...

Thank you. And it's, you know, it's Jenny has that too. The word perfect is, yeah. And TJ too. Yeah. I'm just the one. No. I'm the odd one out. No, not at all. But let's, let's talk about it. There's always one ugly duckling. Oh my, says the model, says the, you know, beautiful, tall, thin model. So let's, let's take it back to Los Angeles because we, let's, we'll, we'll take it back all,

all the way to LA, but also, you know, you shared some things on the last podcast that we did that, you know, you've been kind of talking to two different people. So I want to, I want to touch on that, but I also want to see, you know, we had some listeners come out and what was, what was,

What was the vibe? Like, how did it go for you and the listeners there? Was there anything that you noticed or anything happen that I didn't see? Because I was...

Truth be told, I'm kind of old in the area where it's like, I always prefer to go home and be in my cozies. But I'm like, you know what, babe? I'm like, there's a VIP suite that we're invited to. Let's go up there and just have some fun. And I'm so glad we did because it was genuinely such a good time. But I saw you guys over there and...

And I was rooting and I'm like, all right, I hope it's going good. But what was your thoughts? Well, first of all, I saw you in your cozy slippers. So you're like- I did. That was the only way I was gonna be able to make it. I'm like, if I'm going up there, I'm changing my heels to slippers. So I can still all still rock the outfit. But like, I need to be somewhat cozy. Right. I love that. You look so good. And I was super jealous. I was like, oh God, that's like, I'm like in these like sky. I was like literally, I think it was like 6'1".

up Friday night, which was fun and tall. And they're just, you know, the guests were just, they're really, they're really, really nice girls. Really, really nice. And they've been through so much. So when we were in the car, you weren't in the car with us. And I sat in the back with them and was just listening to their stories. And they were telling me their stories, I mean, of just infidelity and, I mean,

I was shocked. I was really shocked to hear the stories that these guests had gone through. I mean, I was really, really shocked.

And so that even gave me more of an impetus to be like, let's have fun at IHAR and just, you know, have so much fun at Jingle Ball. You know, I always feel like I was actually talking to my youngest, my oldest daughter about this. I always feel like when you're in a situation like that, it's not always like you're looking to date someone, but it's just nice to just genuinely be open to meeting a lot of different people. And, um,

I saw a lot of people that I knew and I just was literally walking around with them and I introduced them to, like, I literally was just smiling at people and people were like, hi. And I was literally just introducing them to absolutely everyone that was responding to, you know, a six foot one smiling woman. Yeah.

It was fun. We had a really, really good time. We had a really good time. One guy was there and he was like talking to us and he was having a great time. He had like serious jewelry game on, like these massive diamonds. And I was talking to him about his jewelry and his wife came out and she was like, what did he say? I was like, I don't know, but that jewelry game is fire. And she was really cute and funny.

And so we had a really nice time just like chatting with them. And afterwards they were like, you can't, you told me you were talking to the wife. I'm like, so? I'm like, by the way, like you're single and I'm single. You never know who people know. And they can be like, oh my God, she was really fun. She, you know, was just talking to us and she's, you know,

just having a good time. And like, I couldn't care less if she's married or not. Like I'm not trying to go after her husband. I'm just having, meeting people and having a good time. So we had, we had a lot of fun. You know, I had a lot of fun introducing them to a lot of people. But with like what you just said, some of my best friends,

like memories of even going out is I've met actually girlfriends from going out and being places. And so whether it's a love connection or, you know, a man connection, it's, it's usually, it's a people connection. You know, I met one of my best friends in the middle seat of a Southwest flight, you know? So it's like, I think it's being open to

any connection when you go out? I mean, they got to meet Teddy. They got to hang out. They were hanging out with me. They got to meet a lot of people that they probably wouldn't have met from, you know, Golden Bachelor and Bachelorette. There were a lot of people that they got to meet. And to your point, you know, you never know who you're going to meet and how you're going to meet people. And so I was just talking to everybody.

And I think that's really, I mean, just from my own experience, that's how you meet great people is just being out and about and

And people just see your energy and feel your energy and you're having a good time. And they're like, oh my God, that looks like a good crew. Let's get to know them. It was about the experience. And I think like, you know, even for me, like, okay, obviously I'm there and my husband's on my arm, but like, I got to sit next to Allie, you know, Larder. And I was like, that's cool. Like, I've always thought she's an amazing actress. And I took, this was kind of like,

And it took me a second. I didn't even see her. Well, she was like, it took me kind of, I'm like really weird when it comes to, like people were, there were seats or whatever. And you know, some of the interns were like, do you want to sit down? I'm like, no, no. Like you are sitting. Like just because like you sit, you know what I mean? Like, so we stood up in the back, like for most of it. And then they got up and they're like, no, sit down. I'm like, no, like seriously. But then I'm like, okay, fine. Like when you do that, I'm like, all right, all right, fine. We'll sit now. So when we sat down,

I noticed this really beautiful blonde next to me and they were trying to like take a photo. And I'm like, I'll take it for you. But when I took her phone to like take the photo, I was like, oh, that's Allie Larder. You know what I mean? I'm like...

Like she's like, I love her work. Well, no, but I'm like, I know she has no idea who I am. She's got to probably think that, or she probably saw that I registered it while I'm taking their photo. You know what I mean? Like her and her friend's photo. So I'm like, this is cool. But then I'm like, her camera was kind of dirty. So I like cleaned it. You know what I mean? And like, and then like, I took a, I took a picture of them.

Um, but that, to that point, it was like, it was an experience. And like, I didn't know that I was like, that was cool. I got to like have an interaction with her. And then, you know, I've got to, you know, run and have, you know, see Teddy again and give her a hug and squeeze her and then see, you know, the, the golden bachelorettes. Like, um, it was just so fun there. Yeah. They're just, they're so fun. So beautiful and so vibrant. And, you know, so yeah, I think it's all about when you go into dating, uh, worlds and

To remember the experience of it, because there's always going to be a new experience. One doesn't look the same. And to go on that, was there anything that came up for you in LA? Were there any old flames that might've texted you, Kelly? Or did you have any run-ins when you were there? Yeah.

One of my clients was like, oh, let's get drinks. And I'm like, okay. And we're sitting there and he's telling me how he owns this vineyard. And I'm like, that's great. You know, I'm just listening to him. And then he was telling me how he's a player. I was like, what? What guy wants, what guy just like comes up and says that? And I'm just like, that doesn't make me, first of all, you're my client. Second of all, that doesn't make me want to like, you know.

And then, you know, and then he goes, you know. How old was he? He's in like 60s, mid 60s. Then he goes to me, you know. That makes sense. He's like, I really, I really don't like brunettes, but I'm okay with you. Oh my gosh. We are not, I'm not allowing you to date him. I'm sorry. I'm going to pull the mother card on this and you cannot date him. Then it's not for you. Who says that?

I have no idea. I think that, you know, listen, as hard as it is for girls, it's the same thing with guys. And like, you know, we were talking about like our game. That's what we were talking about together. And, you know, some people just think that this kind of like being aloof,

Or saying things like, I'm so great, who are you, is going to make the other person like you more. I can see right through that. I'm like, okay, whatever. I'm happy to chat with you and have fun and have a glass of wine and talk to you about what you're doing with your real estate career. But I'm just not, like that is not happening. That does not work for me. That's not happening. But at the concert though, I did hear from someone

saying that you were a little flirty. I was. Who were you flirty with? I don't know. Who was I flirting with? That's amazing. I was flirting. I love it. You don't even know. Oh my God. There was a photographer that I know. He's so cute. And he's always like, he's like, Kelly, you're very flirtatious. I think that like, I'm just very easy around men. And I've, you know, I don't know if you know this, but I have a twin brother. And so I'm just very relaxed around men. And

Like the diamond guy? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. The diamond guy that was married. Yeah. Oh, Kelly. I didn't know. He didn't even ring. And then his wife came out and I was like, yeah, he's got great game. He's got diamonds and he's fun. Oh, that guy. Oh, okay. Got it. Got it. I, you know, I always say too, like, you never know. Like,

who you're going to meet and who they might know. Do you know what I mean? Like you may be like, he might be like, Hey guys, like I'm married, but you should meet my friend. He's over there in the suite. Like you never know. You don't know. I met a vegan farmer. He was the other, another guy that, um, like I just smiled at him. He was like, Hey, and I don't know. I just started striking, you know, striking up a conversation for my, the two guests, my two friends, my two new friends, um,

And like, you know, he's telling me about being a vegan farmer. And that's when I found out about, you know, this whole thing with my, with my love of gummy bears and how it's, you know, completely over because everything is going to be all natural and healthy. And my life is finished, but it's fine. But he was very cute. And then, yeah. And then the woman came out and she was like, that's my husband. I was like, okay, great. One thing about this whole thing about like meeting people that are married is that,

If you're married, if your husband or wife are married, and you can walk around and have fun with someone who's not,

That's a true testament to the relationship you have with your wife. I mean, there's men that are like looking for people. That's totally inappropriate if you're married. But like, if you can have fun with people in general and just like laugh with them, like there's absolutely nothing wrong with like, you know, smiling and like having like a fun little banter with the opposite sex. Zero. What is wrong is engaging in inappropriate activity. That is wrong. Like being like, hey, can I get your number? Exactly. Or if you find out that the person is...

you know, misleading married or, or, you know, has a wife, that's when you're like, you know, you need to be respectful. Of course. Of course. I mean, I know I've, I've been married and I've had women be disrespectful to me and to my marriage. So I, I, I know what that feels like. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same. But yeah. We're like, same Zs. Same.

Same Zs. How does a girl go up to a man at their own, you know, bachelor party and slide their number? Like, that's just so disrespectful. Like, don't go up to the groom, you know, and give your number. Or have the groom tell me, like, that he should have married me. Oh, f***.

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Speaking of though, because we've both been in some, you know, not great relationships with good, not great men. What is the quality that you're most looking for now in a relationship from a man? Like what's the quality that you are hoping, like what's the number one quality you want them to have?

You know, I was talking to my therapist today. We were talking about this exact question and it's safety. It's just this, I'm craving this emotional safety. It's like I...

I give this to my kids, to my friends. You know, I make them feel like they don't have anything in the world to worry about as long as I'm their friend. But I don't feel like that. And that's one thing that I'm craving is just to be able to be like, hey, you had a great podcast or it's raining outside or, you know, just stupid things that are just I just want to like

include that person in my life with all of those different things that have happened whether they're significant or insignificant I mean basically everything that happens to your partner is significant if you really really care about them and emotional safety I think is something that like I've never had and I'm I'm craving it right yeah no I I definitely and that's there's a

There's such a safety, like what it does for your soul, having that safety, it gives you so much like that peace is just that feels, it's not chaotic, you know, like you can really just kind of rest in peace. And that's a really beautiful place to be. Yeah. I don't know what that's like, but I'm looking for it.

And I'm going to get it. Well, that's the thing. Out of the two guys that you talked about, because on the last episode, you talked about two guys that you were, I mean, I wouldn't say you're not like deciding between, but you're also just entertaining both. Is there one that you feel more safe with? Like, is that maybe where you'll end up? Or is it, because I almost think, okay, and maybe this is wrong, but so I was talking to a guy recently

When I was, you know, and we were not official or anything like that. We were just kind of casually dating. And, you know, and then I met Alan. I knew immediately. I was like, he's done. This is my person. You know what I mean? Like, I just, I just knew. Like, I didn't even want to entertain anybody else.

Well, actually that was even before, but at the time, like I was, wasn't talking to anyone. And then when I started talking to Alan, he kind of came back around and he was like texting me like, Hey, you know? And I'm like, no, like I, I actually like, I don't want anything. I don't want to be with you at all. So is it, do you think the fact that you're even kind of like hemming and hawing the one or the other that neither one of them might not, because it's like, you don't have a strong pull for one. You know, I think that, I mean, I wish I could, I wish I could blame them.

but I'm going to have to blame myself for this at this time, you know, because we've only been, I've only been going through this new metamorphosis for the past, you know, month, six weeks. And so I'm starting to recognize the things that I want and that I am going to get. And so whether these guys are the greatest guys in the world or

You know, I really like both of them. I think they're great. I mean, I think that one of them is really, really, really amazing guy. I just don't know like where he is and in terms of like where we would be in our life. Because I mean, I want to get, it's not, people are like, do you want to get married? It's not that I want to get married, but I want a committed relationship and I want a family for my family. That's what I've always wanted since day one. That's why I got divorced. Right.

Like I want a family for my family. And so I'm looking for that man who is going to be that partner in love crime with me and my family and his family. And I'm getting closer to understanding what I really want. And one thing that my therapist and I were talking about today is just

And there's manifesting, which was so great when I wrote that letter to my future husband. It really put a different narrative in my head versus the, you know, what's wrong with me? What, you know, people don't like me. Do I like them? You know, just all of the self-doubt. And so now...

She was she's like, I really want you to be proactive about talking positively about yourself and about what you really, really want. And what you deserve, too, because I think that's where I always went wrong was I didn't think I deserved X, Y and Z, you know? Yeah. So. I mean, I'm sorry for that. You're like such a I mean, every time that we get to hang out together, I'm like, oh, I love her. Yeah.

But I'm glad that you're doing that manifestation though, because I do believe in that too. Like there is healing work, but there's also positive talk. And I think that's if you're going to walk around and like, I'm never going to find anyone. Well, then you're not going to find anyone because you're not going to have the outlook to find someone. And I just think positive talk is really, really important. And so, you know, where again, like to just answer your question, you know, I'm really working hard on myself and I'm hoping that the people that are

you know, around me are seeing that. And, you know, you don't know what's going to happen in life, but I feel really good about today and I'm going to feel even better about tomorrow. I mean, write it on a postcard. That's so good. It's so good. I know. I mean, it's good. Okay. Let's go to

Just for the people that are, you know, wanting some more dating advice. When you're out and you see a cute guy and you send over a drink to get his attention, have you done that before? Is that something that you've done? Have you ever actually bought a drink for another guy? No, never. I mean, I haven't either. I'm curious if guys like that boldness or not. I don't know. I don't know if men would like that boldness from me. I think that they would be kind of like, wow,

Who is that? What is she doing? I think that they would take it the wrong way, to be honest with you. Really? Okay. So I'm going to play devil's advocate on this one because I almost look at you and I, as I would be intimidated to talk to you.

Really? Yeah. Though you're lovely and I know you now, cause you're so beautiful and like you're strong. And like, if I was a guy, I might be a little, and which also like you want a strong guy. Right. But I think it was, I think if you've gotten the, you know, guys are intimidated or by you or something, and it's like, maybe it's okay to make the first move. So that way they know that like you want to be approached because a lot of times, even though girls say they want to be approached, they really don't want to be approached.

Yeah. I don't know. Just a theory. So that's interesting. People, I mean, there's some people that have said like that, you know, that I'm kind of intimidating. But then when people meet me, they're like, oh my God, no, not at all. Like they're like, oh my God, everyone always wants to come talk to you. You're smiling. You're having a good time. You're always like engaging people. And when they do meet me, I mean, I'm,

I'm outwardly confident, but inwardly very, very, very, very insecure.

Really? So it's like, they'll meet me and I'll, but I'm like, you know, listening to Jenny and she's like, follow me in the car. And I'm like, I would never. I could never. I would have crawled inside. Like, yeah, I was like, when she says I'm like crawling inside my own skin. I'd be like, no. I'm so like, you can't do it. I've always wanted to like, like with a guy like that. But like, I don't have, that's where I'm like insecure. I'm like, well, maybe they wouldn't want to follow me then. Like, I don't know. What if he didn't, what if he turned left? Yeah. Yeah.

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We got Marie Faustin and we have Jaboukie Young-White. Truly a phenomenal episode featuring some of your favorite comedians playing some of the most offensive and groundbreaking games possible. The audience was amazing. We shot it all in Brooklyn. You're not going to want to miss it. Let's get nasty. So listen to My Mama Told Me on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and my latest interview is with Wiz Khalifa. The craziest part of my life. I can go from performing in front of 40,000 people to either being in a dressing room, being in a plane, or being back in a bed all by myself. He is a multi-platinum selling recording artist, mini-mogul, and an actor. Which among the one, the only, the only?

Did you feel like a big break was coming? I didn't know what that big break looked or felt like, but I knew that what I was doing was working. The gang banging and the drug selling, that's not really for me. But the looking cool, the having girls, the making music, I'm like, I like that part of it. How was that experience for you, losing someone so close to you that you love?

I am grateful that I was able to have like the last moments that I had and to be able to prepare for it. And it's something that I'm still dealing with. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What is your biggest insecurity?

Like you say, you're outwardly confident, but inside it's insecure. So I'm curious, what is that insecurity piece? What is it telling you? It's telling me this, what we talked about before about the safety. It's like, are they really interested in knowing about me as a person or me as, you know, it's like when they talk about the idea of a person. Like, I think that,

And maybe this is just me being, I don't know, insecure, more insecure. It's just like, I think the people just really like the idea. I get very, very, very insecure. That's it. I just get rawly insecure. Okay. Well, I'm going to have, thank you for sharing that. You know, I think we all deal with insecurities and, you know, we need to like speak truth into what the actual, you know, truth is around it and,

obviously we have amazing therapists that can help us do that and friends too. Do you want to know the real reason why I'm so insecure?

The real reason that I'm so insecure is because when I went on television before social media, I had just gotten divorced. And, you know, obviously, you know, my ex-husband was not faithful to me. And I was, you know, I had to put up with a lot of infidelity for the sake of my girls. And so, you know, I had the confidence to get divorced and happy that, you know, he can be a father to him in the way that's good for him. And my girls are healthy and well.

But then I wanted a television show where I was literally like splattered against a wall for having confidence and being able to say like, I don't like when people talk badly to me. I was really, really, I was literally slammed up against the wall in terms of like socially. And people were like, oh, is she really that mean? And I'm like, no one ever in my life has ever called me mean. Ever. Never. Never.

Never. Okay, maybe my kids when I won't give them what they want. Sure. No person, even any guy has never said that I'm mean. They've said I'm distant. They say that, you know, certain other things, but they've never, no one ever has used those words, that word to describe me, except for this, what happened like literally culturally. Yeah.

And it was really, it's been very, very, very difficult to get past that and to get through that and to be on the other side of that. And I feel like that's one thing that I've really, really, that's one big, big mountain for me. It almost identified you in the wrong way. Like it's not who you are, but like you've been, you're labeled identified as this when it's like you're fighting to be like, that's not who I am. Right. Yeah, and that's hard to-

Cause it's, it's such a, like, it's almost like you're being gaslit by other people, like always by other people and the media and everybody. But it's like, but no, that's not. And then you feel like you have to defend, but it's like, yeah, that's, that's an exhausting wheel. Yeah.

And it was never like, oh, you're so nice to give me a compliment. Most people do never do that. They're always like, oh, that's from this or she was like that and she was so mean to this person and she's mean. And I'm like, okay. Right. And at this stage- And I think a lot of guys, sorry to interrupt you, but I think a lot of guys-

because they think that's what it is. So they also kind of try to gaslight me too. And in the past like month and a half, I used to get gaslit and like internalize it and be like, oh my God, like that's how they see me. That's how they feel about me. That's how people, when I walk outside the street, that's what people think about me.

And now I'm just like, no, that's not how people think about me. And it doesn't matter if they think about me like that anyway. Right. I just, I don't know. I feel different. I feel like I have a new shield or like, like I said, like the metamorphosis. Yeah. It's, it's recognizing. And I think that's,

For anyone listening, there's always someone that said something about you that isn't true. They've spoken untruth into you because of something either they heard or they might have witnessed from a, you know, maybe you were having a bad day or something. I don't know. But at the end of the day, you know who you are, you know your own truth and you know what's in your four walls. And that's always kind of whenever I get a little shaken by something that has been said, you know, Alan's always like the four walls. Like that's,

We know who is in the four walls and that's really all the people that really matter too. It's only like your family knows you are loved and does anything else matter outside the four walls? No. Right. You know, it doesn't. My dad used to call it your like inner coconut. Don't let people into the coconut. Like what, you know, who your people that you're close, close people, your very close friends, your family, people that are your friends who are become your family, right?

And I totally agree with that. And I just feel that, you know, it's funny. I just said, I actually said it was a metamorphosis and I feel like I'm a butterfly. I love that. I'm a butterfly. You're the butterfly. Okay. So speaking of butterfly and fluttering into DMs, do you believe in the DM route? Fluttering into DMs. Do you believe in that route? Listen, I have blindly DMed when I was single.

And I've had some good connections, you know, some good...

you know, friend connections from, from them, from there too. Um, they obviously weren't love connections, but I know my husband, he loved connected me, you know, with, with DMing me, but I think some women might be like, no, I want to be approached, but in this day and age and you have status and being able to go on to Instagram, you know, is there, I don't want to say a celebrity, but is there someone that you want to reach out to in DMS and would you do it?

And if not, can I do it for you? Wing woman. Jen's like, give me your phone. I was like, I'll just, cause this is what, so my girl, Jessie Decker.

When I was single, she's like, who do you want me to DM? And I was like, Jessie, like nobody. She's like, no, no. Okay, let me think about this. Okay, this guy. And she would just straight up DM dudes. And like, I'm like, you are so like, she was like the best wing woman. I just really think we need to find the person. You don't have to say his name, but I am going to challenge you to DM someone and take that bold step. Because I think it's a good thing to do. I have to think about like who that would be. And if not, I'll do it for you. Like right now I'm like-

I mean, I'm thinking like Kevin Costner. So am I. That's what I was thinking of. He likes horses. I like horses. He looks good in a cowboy hat. I look good in a cowboy hat. We have so much in common. You do. Kevin Costner. Oh, wait, he's on Instagram. Oh, my God. You are hilarious. You are so funny. Here she goes. Wait, can we DM him? She's like, my friend Kelly.

DM him right now from your phone. I want you to do it right now. And then I want, we want to, we need to see proof of this. Okay. And we'll put it on socials. My God. He's going to be like, hello. Okay. It's just be like, okay. Be like, your ears must be ringing. And like, um, I, uh, like it's something like cute. Like I think, uh, are your ears ringing? Winky face. Um, talking about my love for horses and your name popped up.

Let me know if you're ever in New York. Talking of my love. Gosh, this is so good. Because you got to like put, throw in an interest. Okay. So everyone listening, if you want to like reach out to someone, throw in an interest that you know that they're like, you guys both like love and share. Say, you know,

thinking of something you know or like you know your ears ringing whatever okay your ears must be ringing um talking about love for horses and your name came up when are you in new york also put janna kramer in your next movie i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding my great friend's a great actress you'll love her um

Okay. I'm, I need you to press send. You know, it's so funny though, is that cause I always say Aloha. Like we don't, you don't, I don't text, but like every time, like I would be like Aloha, that's my way of saying hello. And so when I was on, when I was on Raya this summer, you know, I was like saying Aloha and everyone's like, they were like, do you live in Hawaii? I'm like, no. Why would I? We're going to drop the Aloha. I love you.

We're dropping aloha. Please do not aloha, Kevin Costner. Kevin Costner. Wait, did you send it? I did not say aloha, by the way. Thank you. Did you send it? Yes. Let me see. I don't believe you. I haven't anything. I sent it. Oh, it's so good. There it is. Okay. Well, that's something we get to recap on. Yeah. Let's see what he says. Let's see. Does it get read? It's probably like his publicist. You know what? But like...

At the end of the day, well, great. Then his publicist is gonna be like, wow, you know, then Kevin, here you go. But I think it's something, keep thinking of other people, DM, DM away. Cause you know what's the worst that can happen? They don't read it or they don't respond or they do. And guess what? You've got a fun little, you know,

you know, drink date coming your way. Or, you know, whoever, all to the listeners too, whoever is listening, if you, if you have an idea of someone that you think would be really good for me, because before I was like, no athletes, no actors, like I had all these rules and now I'm just like, as the butterfly, I'm like, no, no, no. I am open to meet all these different kinds of people. Um, so if you guys think of anyone too, that you think would be good for me, please let me know. And I will let my fingers do the walking. Yeah.

And her wings do the flopping. Okay, 2025. Are we wanting to be in a relationship or are we wanting to just continue this single... No, no, no, no, no. In a serious relationship and ready to go. Like I am... That's the intention for 2025. I'm here for it. Be in like, not like, not...

Like, oh, let's date like in a very, very serious relationship that's moving forward towards getting, being, being married. Yep. And you know what? And this is the thing for everyone listening to project what you want. Don't say you're never going to find or this, that and the other project it, say what you want and go out and find it. You know, what was interesting too, is just being in LA with everybody. Like I never thought of LA as a place that I would live. I always thought of an LA as a place that I went to work and then came back and

And, you know, I'm at lunch with my friends the other day and I'm like, you know what? I love LA. Like it's very me. It's like, it's very high and very low. Like people are just having a really good time and they're walking around in t-shirts and then they go to their, you know, they do their work. And it's just, I feel very, very good and healthy in LA. Whereas it's, you know, I work in Miami and Florida and Palm Beach and I've been going there all my life. I just...

When I'm there, I just don't feel good when I'm there. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen to yourself, you know? And like, if that's the places... That's not my friend too. She's divorced. She's like, I'm not going there anymore because it's not filling my soul cup, you know? She actually loves Miami. But again, we live here in Nashville. So it's kind of... It's fun. I love working in Miami. I just have never...

I've just, it's just never been a place where I'm just like, this is, maybe it's because there's no horses and there's, you know, I really, I really do. I love, I love the beach and I love horses. I love that. I love, those are the two things that really makes me whole. Yes. We love that so much. And you know, Kelly, we are going to be, you know, just on this journey with you. We're excited for 2025. You've put out the intentions and, you know, we're excited.

Stay tuned for Yellowstone part two. I'm just having so much fun. I was telling my kids over the weekend, like it's just so nice to be in an environment where like I feel safe, like I feel safe to communicate. I feel safe to tell you like how I'm, why I'm so deeply, like I'm scarred. I have total PTSD from my experiences like on Housewives, complete and utter PTSD.

very very serious ptsd 100 well you're doing all the work and and i just feel so good now yeah um just being able to communicate and to be able to to just be myself and you know i'm super flawed and you know what that's okay i don't have to be like amen sister you know

And someone's going to love all the parts. Like I have so many flaws and I have such a weird past and not weird past, but a hard past. And like, he loves every piece of it, you know? So by the way, I'm a singer. You were amazing. I was like, Oh my gosh, I know her. Thank you. So sweet. Thank you. All right. I love you, Kelly. All right. 2025.

Well, Kelly is the best and it was so great catching up with her. And it's really, truly amazing to see how far she's come since that first episode we taped a few months ago, just coming off the heels of that broken engagement. And just, you know, I just, I feel like she's just happier and stronger and it's just really been

been great to watch her along this journey. Listen, this podcast is all about you guys, the listeners who have also had difficult times with finding love. And we want to hear from you and give you advice. So call us or email us, follow us on socials. All the information will be in the show notes. Make sure to rate and review the podcast. I do part two and I heart radio podcast. We're falling in love is the main objective.

Hi, I'm David Boren. And I am his dear friend Langston Kerman. And we host My Mama Told Me, a podcast about Black conspiracy theories. We just did a spectacular live show with some of your favorite comedians on the planet. David, tell them who was there. We had the Kid Mero, Marie Faustin, and we had Jaboukie Young-White.

some of your favorite comedians playing some of the most offensive and groundbreaking games. So listen to My Mama Told Me on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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