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Earthling Ed: How to Argue with a Meat Eater (Part One)

2025/3/17
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Ed Winters: 我认为素食主义者面临的最大挑战是,十年过去了,我们仍然要处理那些荒谬的言论和废话。素食主义的讨论发展迅速,十年时间里发生了巨大的变化。尽管面临来自耸人听闻的标题和对抗性人物的挑战,但素食主义仍然存在积极的转变和增长。写书的好处是可以独自思考,深入思考论点,并让其自由发展。书中探讨了138个反对素食主义的论点,让我有机会检验自己的论点和素食主义的伦理基础。反对素食主义的最大障碍不是证据或逻辑,而是人们缺乏有意义的参与。继续大规模的动物养殖业是激进的,而转向与动物和地球更具同情心的关系则不应被视为激进。询问人们信息来源可以促使他们更深入地思考信息的可信度。目前的系统将动物视为可以从中获取利润的数字和指标,导致动物养殖业的扩张和动物福利的恶化。动物养殖业在经济上之所以可行,是因为政府的补贴,这并非完全是资本主义的问题。挑战人们对动物的态度,比仅仅改变经济制度更重要,因为如果我们不改变这种态度,动物剥削行为将会继续。文化战争式的争论是毫无意义的,它掩盖了我们应该共同面对的根本性问题。 Dominique Palmer: 作为一名素食主义者,我面临的最大挑战是应对误信息以及向他人解释我成为素食主义者的原因。

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Ed Winters, known to his millions of online followers as Earthling Ed, has perfected the art of persuasion. During his extensive career as an activist and educator, he has made the case for veganism everywhere from university campuses to live on GB News. His compelling and informative content has garnered millions of views, and earned him a dedicated following across online platforms.

Earthling Ed joined us live at the Kiln Theatre to share his insights on how we can all become better conversationalists and critical thinkers. How can we productively engage with those who have opposing views? How can emotionally charged conversations become productive? And how can we engage others to create a more ethical, kind and sustainable world?

Drawing on the new paperback edition of his bestselling book, How to Argue with a Meat Eater (And Win Every Time), Ed discussed how to debunk and respond to every argument against veganism: from classic conspiracy theories and questions over a lack of protein to newer issues surrounding processed vegan substitutes and more.

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