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The 12 Books of Christmas | The Dictators Who Want to Run the World, with Anne Applebaum

2024/12/16
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Anne Applebaum: 本书探讨了21世纪专制政权的运作模式,认为它们更像是一个由不同国家和政府组成的交易网络,而非基于共同意识形态的联盟。这些政权虽然在意识形态上存在差异,但都将民主视为共同敌人,并通过各种手段(包括经济手段、技术手段、宣传手段等)来对抗民主。专制政权的领导人寻求不受制衡地统治,并反对任何对其权力进行监督的行为。他们利用全球化的网络结构、巨额财富以及先进技术来巩固权力,并对民主制度构成威胁。委内瑞拉的例子说明了专制政权如何通过网络合作,逃避制裁并维持其统治。没有一个民主制度是绝对安全的,其持续存在依赖于公民的参与和努力。与专制政权进行贸易并非总是能促进其民主化,反而可能增强其实力。西方国家应该重新评估其与富豪阶层的关系,迫使他们在专制政权与民主制度之间做出选择。专制政权并非在应对环境挑战和国际合作方面优于民主政权,而是学习并利用了民主国家的经验和技术。21世纪的专制统治者在能力和智慧上参差不齐,但他们利用技术和策略对民主制度构成威胁。世界各国并非简单地划分为民主和专制两大阵营,而是存在多种混合政权形式。对抗专制政权的关键在于识别并应对其反民主行为,而非将特定国家视为敌人。专制政权积极塑造西方舆论,旨在削弱民主制度和价值观。中国共产党将西方民主思想视为对其统治的威胁。专制政权试图通过制造混乱和破坏来削弱民主制度。公民的参与和政治参与对于民主制度的成功至关重要。公民的政治参与和关注对于维护民主制度至关重要,漠视政治可能导致民主制度的衰落。 Jonny Dymond: Jonny Dymond主要通过提问的方式引导Anne Applebaum阐述其观点,并就一些具体问题进行深入探讨,例如:20世纪和21世纪专制政权的区别;专制政权网络的运作机制;西方国家与专制政权的经济关系;专制政权如何利用技术和宣传来影响西方舆论;以及如何应对专制政权的挑战等。

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Why has autocracy evolved into a more sophisticated and ambitious form in the 21st century?

Autocracies today operate as a network of countries, not bound by ideology but by transactional interests. They leverage global financial structures, advanced technology, and propaganda to undermine democratic challengers, focusing on the destruction of democracy as their common goal.

What are the key differences between 21st-century autocracies and those of the 20th century?

Modern autocracies are characterized by their wealth, global reach, and access to advanced technology, including surveillance and propaganda tools. Unlike 20th-century dictators, they operate across ideological, geographical, and cultural lines, forming a network rather than a traditional alliance.

How does the network of autocracies, or 'Autocracy, Inc.,' sustain weaker regimes like Venezuela?

Autocracy, Inc. sustains weaker regimes through mutual support, such as weapons from Russia, investment from China, and secret police reinforcements from Cuba. These regimes collaborate to evade sanctions and maintain power, despite their internal unpopularity.

Why do autocracies focus so heavily on undermining democracy and democratic narratives?

Autocracies see democracy as a threat because it promotes ideas like transparency, free speech, and civic engagement, which challenge their rule. They aim to weaken democracies by spreading disinformation, supporting extremist movements, and creating instability, both domestically and internationally.

What role does social media play in the narrative war between autocracies and democracies?

Social media amplifies the ability of autocracies to spread propaganda and disinformation globally. Democracies, however, are hesitant to regulate these platforms due to concerns about free speech. The algorithms of social media platforms often promote division and anger, which autocracies exploit to undermine democratic stability.

Why did economic integration with autocracies like Russia and China not lead to political democratization?

Economic integration did not lead to democratization because the elites in these countries, such as Russia's oligarchs and China's Communist Party, used trade to consolidate power rather than promote political change. The West's assumption that economic ties would naturally lead to political integration was flawed.

What is the significance of the U.S.-China economic relationship in the context of global autocracy?

The U.S.-China economic relationship is deeply intertwined, but this interdependence has not led to political alignment. Instead, it has created risks for both countries, as China's strategic goals do not align with those of the democratic world. There is now a growing awareness of the need for 'de-risking' in this relationship.

How can democracies counter the narrative and influence of autocracies?

Democracies can counter autocratic narratives by regulating social media platforms, enforcing laws on political advertising, and promoting transparency. They should also focus on addressing autocratic behaviors, such as anti-transparency measures and disinformation campaigns, rather than viewing specific countries as enemies.

What does Anne Applebaum believe about the future of democracy in the face of autocracy?

Applebaum believes that democracy is not inevitable and requires active effort to maintain. While autocracies have gained ground in recent decades, democracy can still succeed if citizens remain engaged and work to improve their societies. The key is to avoid complacency and recognize that democracy is an ongoing struggle.

What does Anne Applebaum think about the role of moderate conservatives in preserving democracy?

Applebaum argues that moderate conservatives have a responsibility to counter the divisive tactics of autocratic populists, who often use 'othering' to create a polarized electorate. By standing up against such tactics, moderate conservatives can help preserve democratic sensibilities and prevent the erosion of democratic norms.

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Anne Applebaum introduces her new book, Autocracy, Inc., which describes a network of autocratic countries working together for transactional reasons, not united by ideology. These countries, despite their differences, share a common enemy: democracy. They collaborate to suppress opposition, both domestically and globally.
  • Autocracies today are best viewed as a network of countries, not an alliance or axis.
  • They are united by their common enemy: democracy.
  • They collaborate across ideological, geographical, and cultural lines for transactional reasons.
  • They have access to new technology, such as surveillance and propaganda tools, used for global reach.

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To celebrate 2024, we’re taking a look backwards, and diving into the standout thinkers who have taken to the Intelligence Squared stage in the past 12 months. You might still be on the hunt for that perfect gift for the avid reader in your life, or perhaps you’re after some food for thought over the festive period. Either way, this 12 episode mini series will highlight the books that shaped 2024. We hope you’ll join us in 2025 for more events that intrigue, fascinate and entertain.

In the 20th century most autocrats were brutal dictators whose main goal was to control a domestic population. But in the 21st century autocracy has become much more sophisticated and ambitious in its scope. States like Russia have developed sophisticated cross-border networks of kleptocratic financial structures, innovative security services and professional propagandists. The members of these networks are connected not only within a given country, but among many countries. Propagandists from one country can promote and finance extremists and propaganda in another – pounding home the same messages about the weakness of democracy and the evil of the West. 

In September 2024 Anne Applebaum came to Intelligence Squared to provide a radical new framework for understanding autocracy in the 21st century. Applebaum argued that autocracies today are best viewed like an agglomeration of companies or what she calls Autocracy, Inc. Their relations are not based on values, but are rather transactional, which is why they operate so easily across ideological, geographical, and cultural lines. In truth, they are in full agreement about only one thing: The destruction of democratic challengers. Applebaum was in conversation with BBC broadcaster Jonny Dymond to discuss how to understand and thwart this new evolved form of autocracy.

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