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Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

2025/2/25
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Chris Pedregal: 我认为人类从本质上来说是工具制造者。纵观历史,许多发明都是为了扩展人类的认知能力,例如文字、数学符号和数据可视化。而AI正代表着这一演变的下一个前沿。Granola作为一款AI驱动的记事本应用,旨在通过实时转录会议内容并完善会议记录,帮助用户减少繁琐的记录工作,专注于关键信息和想法。它就像扩展了大脑的RAM,LLM能够在需要时提供相关的上下文信息,从而提高效率。未来,Granola的目标是成为一个全面的工作助手,帮助用户完成各种工作任务,例如撰写邮件和备忘录等,并始终坚持AI是辅助人类提升能力的工具,而非替代人类的工具。在产品设计上,我们注重赋予用户控制权,让用户主导工具的使用,所有决策都围绕这一理念展开。我们也需要谨慎考虑AI录音工具的隐私和便利性之间的权衡。 在开发过程中,我们经历了多次迭代和调整,例如最初的实时笔记生成模式由于用户体验不佳而被放弃,最终我们选择在会议结束后进行笔记生成,这使得产品体验更好。我们也充分利用了AI技术来提高开发效率,并不断探索新的应用场景和交互模式,以满足用户的需求。 我们相信,在未来,AI将成为人们日常工作中不可或缺的一部分,而Granola将成为其中一个重要的工具,帮助人们更高效地完成工作,并专注于更具创造性和价值的工作。 Patrick O'Shaughnessy: 作为访谈者,我主要关注的是Chris Pedregal对于AI思维工具的看法,以及Granola这款产品的理念和应用。我从Chris Pedregal的描述中了解到,Granola不仅仅是一款简单的会议记录工具,更是一款能够帮助用户提升工作效率和思维能力的AI助手。它通过提供丰富的上下文信息和便捷的交互方式,帮助用户更好地进行信息整合和决策。同时,我也关注到Granola在隐私保护方面所做的努力,以及它在快速发展的AI领域中所面临的挑战和机遇。 在访谈中,我与Chris Pedregal探讨了AI技术在不同领域的应用,以及它对人类工作方式的影响。我们还讨论了AI应用开发中的一些技术挑战和用户体验问题,以及如何平衡AI技术的便利性和隐私保护之间的关系。此外,我还对Granola未来的发展方向和商业模式进行了探讨,并对AI领域未来的发展趋势进行了展望。

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My guest today is Chris Pedregal). Chris is the founder and CEO of Granola, an AI-powered notepad that transcribes your meetings and enhances your meeting notes. Chris shares fascinating insights on how humans have historically developed tools to extend our cognitive capabilities - from writing and mathematical notation to data visualization - and how AI represents the next frontier in this evolution. We explore competitive dynamics between model providers and application builders, and Chris shares his vision for AI tools that make us "more human and better humans" rather than replacing human altogether. Our conversation covers the product philosophy behind Granola, the challenges of building in the fast-moving AI space, and how small teams are creating outsized impact in this new paradigm. Please enjoy my conversation with Chris Pedregal.

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Show Notes:

(00:00:00) Learn About Ramp, Ridgeline, & AlphaSense

(00:05:41) Historical Examples of Tools for Thought

(00:06:55) The Impact of AI on Tools for Thought

(00:09:08) Introducing Granola: AI-Powered Notetaking

(00:10:10) Granola's Unique Approach to AI Notetaking

(00:13:33) User Experiences and Future Vision

(00:15:40) Privacy and Social Norms in AI Recording

(00:20:47) Building Granola: Challenges and Innovations

(00:34:55) AI Startups and Granola's Early Adoption

(00:35:40) Unexpected Feedback from High-Profile CEOs

(00:39:53) Building Better and Faster in a Competitive Space

(00:42:09) The Future of AI-Powered Workspaces

(00:54:00) Challenges and Opportunities in AI and Education

(00:56:03) The Evolution of App Development

(00:58:01) The Potential of Small Teams in Big Businesses