Jared Kushner sees challenges as opportunities for learning and growth, focusing on what he can learn from them rather than dwelling on the negative. He emphasizes radical acceptance, staying focused on solving problems, and maintaining a positive outlook to manifest better outcomes.
Jared bought 666 Fifth Avenue in 2007, just before the financial crisis. The deal faced significant challenges, but he learned the importance of having the right capital structure, being patient, and finding ways to unlock value. The investment eventually turned into a success, teaching him valuable lessons in problem-solving and resilience.
Jared focuses on understanding the priorities and objectives of the other party, aiming for win-win outcomes. He avoids over-negotiating minutiae and instead tries to build trust and long-term relationships. His approach is to be fair, transparent, and honorable, which sets him apart in a cutthroat market.
Jared's success in the Abraham Accords stemmed from his willingness to listen and learn from regional leaders, focus on mutual future interests, and build trust. He avoided relitigating past grievances and instead worked on creating economic opportunities and stability, which resonated with leaders and ultimately led to historic breakthroughs.
Jared's investment philosophy for Affinity Partners includes four key principles: identifying big macro trends, backing exceptional people and teams, finding structural advantages, and asking why Affinity should be the one to make the investment. He emphasizes the importance of being selective, disciplined, and continuously rechecking assumptions.
Jared finds Brad Jacobs incredibly charismatic, visionary, and intellectually flexible. Brad's commitment to excellence and his ability to attract top talent have inspired Jared to push his own investments to be more aligned with his unique vision and skills, focusing on building something that is both interesting and impactful.
Jared facilitated the reconciliation between Saudi Arabia and Qatar by brokering a direct phone call between MBS and Tamim. He built trust with both sides and convinced them to work towards a resolution. Despite initial skepticism, the deal was eventually signed, leading to improved relations and economic collaboration in the region.
Jared believes that bureaucracy in government often lacks clear objectives and incentives for efficiency. He supports the idea of reducing bureaucracy and empowering career civil servants to make better decisions. He thinks that a more streamlined and transparent approach can lead to significant improvements in government performance and public outcomes.
Jared sees the Russia-Ukraine conflict, the Iran situation, and the normalization of relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel as the most significant geopolitical issues. He also highlights the importance of fostering a fair global trading system and managing the U.S.-China relationship. He believes that addressing these issues can set the stage for global prosperity.
Jared is most proud of the criminal justice reform efforts, which provided skills training and reduced recidivism rates. The Abraham Accords and the GCC deal were significant achievements, but he believes more work is needed on the Palestinian issue, Iran, and further normalization in the Middle East.
Jared sees podcasts as the most powerful form of media today, providing high-quality information and building trust. He believes that traditional news media is becoming less relevant due to social media and AI, and that a new media venture should focus on synthesizing and curating information for people who are looking for it, rather than just providing a news digest.
When Jared's father was in prison, a friend took Jared to lunch and asked how he was doing, providing emotional support during a difficult time. This act of kindness has influenced Jared to be a good friend and support others during their vulnerable moments, emphasizing the importance of simple acts of kindness in building strong relationships.
My guest today is Jared Kushner). Jared has lived more lives than just about anyone I know his age. He ran Kushner companies for years, investing in real estate in and around New York City. He owned the New York Observer. He was a senior advisor to President Trump in his first term. He now runs Affinity Partners, which we discuss in detail, a private equity firm built to find and execute unique investments around the world that stem from Jared's unique set of experiences in business and government. This is one of our longest episodes ever because there was so much to discuss. We cover real estate, negotiation, geopolitics, his work in prison reform, Operation Warp Speed, and the Abraham Accords in the Middle East, business, investing, his family, and everything in between. Jared told me I could ask him about anything--and I really enjoyed doing so. Please enjoy my conversation with Jared Kushner.
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Show Notes:
(00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best
(00:08:45) Jared's Philosophy on Challenges and Success
(00:13:38) Real Estate Ventures: The 666 Fifth Avenue Story
(00:20:31) Lessons from New York Real Estate
(00:30:04) Diplomacy and the Middle East
(00:37:03) Leadership and Change
(00:41:14) Geopolitical Landscape and Future Prospects
(00:47:53) Affinity Partners: Vision and Strategy
(00:52:42) Navigating Market Shifts
(00:54:39) Case Study: Mexico Investment
(00:58:34) Global Investment Strategies
(01:02:42) Investment Philosophy and Principles
(01:07:04) Challenges and Problem-Solving
(01:23:14) Government Efficiency and Bureaucracy
(01:34:57) Stepping into the Spotlight
(01:37:19) Manifesting Success with Partners
(01:38:05) Learning from Brad Jacobs
(01:42:09) Middle East Economic Development
(01:46:08) The Qatar-Saudi Reconciliation
(01:52:25) Perceptions of Key Middle Eastern Countries
(02:07:34) Preparing for Trump's Return
(02:14:36) Early Days of Thrive Capital
(02:16:56) Helping Entrepreneurs and Building Thrive
(02:24:51) Lessons from My Father
(02:37:47) Future Vision and AI
(02:48:45) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done For Jared