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Jared Kushner - The Mechanic - [Invest Like the Best, EP.403]

2024/12/20
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Jared Kushner:我将人生中的挑战视为‘训练’,并以积极乐观的态度面对逆境,从中学习和成长。我不问‘为什么’,而问‘我能学到什么’。我发现许多成功都源于之前的挑战和失败,这些经历教会我如何解决问题,并最终获得更好的结果。这种积极的心态让我在面对困难时保持冷静和理性,专注于解决问题,而不是被负面情绪所左右。我每天早晨都会祈祷,感谢上帝给予我的所有恩赐,这让我保持积极乐观的心态。 Patrick O'Shaughnessy:你认为这种积极的心态是主动的选择吗?是瞬间的顿悟还是长期的积累?这种心态是否对每个人都适用? Jared Kushner:我认为积极乐观是一种选择,每天早晨醒来,你可以选择关注生活中的美好,也可以选择关注问题。我发现,积极乐观的心态不仅能让你更快乐,也能带来更好的结果。当然,这可能因人而异,但对我来说,这种心态非常有效。

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Why did Jared adopt the 'thank you for this training' mentality when faced with challenges?

Jared adopted this mentality to view setbacks as opportunities for learning and growth, which helped him stay focused on creating the best outcomes rather than being consumed by negative emotions.

What was the $1.8 billion investment in 666 Fifth Avenue and what did Jared learn from it?

Jared invested in 666 Fifth Avenue, a large office building in New York, before the 2008 financial crisis. The deal was complex and faced market challenges, but ultimately, they were able to unlock value from the retail component and salvage the investment. Jared learned the importance of structuring capital for flexibility and focusing on long-term potential.

How does Jared approach negotiations differently in New York real estate compared to other investors?

Jared focuses on building trust and understanding the seller’s needs, rather than over-negotiating details. He aims to create win-win situations and prioritize what is important to both parties.

What was the key to Jared’s success in the Abraham Accords negotiations?

Jared’s success in the Abraham Accords negotiations was rooted in his willingness to listen, understand, and avoid relitigating past grievances. He focused on mutual future interests and economic development, building trust and relationships with leaders who were previously suspicious of U.S. intentions.

Why does Jared believe bureaucracy in government is often inefficient and how can it be improved?

Jared believes bureaucracy is inefficient due to lack of clear objectives, risk aversion, and the absence of incentives for cost-cutting or problem-solving. He suggests bringing in more business-minded leaders who can simplify processes and drive efficiency.

What is Jared’s investment philosophy at Affinity Partners?

Jared’s investment philosophy at Affinity Partners focuses on identifying macro trends, backing exceptional people, finding structural advantages, and asking why Affinity is the right partner. They prioritize long-term, high-impact investments and a disciplined, selective approach.

How did Jared’s role in Operation Warp Speed during the COVID-19 pandemic challenge his problem-solving skills?

Jared had to navigate a highly chaotic and high-stakes situation, working with the military and various government agencies to accelerate vaccine manufacturing and distribution. He focused on breaking down problems into manageable steps and leveraging unconventional methods to overcome bottlenecks.

What are Jared’s key insights from his experience with the Qatar-Saudi reconciliation?

Jared’s key insight was the importance of trust and direct communication between leaders. He facilitated a phone call between MBS and Tamim, which broke the ice and led to a resolution, emphasizing that leaders can achieve more by working together rather than maintaining grudges.

Why does Jared see AI as a significant opportunity and how is Affinity investing in it?

Jared sees AI as a transformative force in various industries, from infrastructure to consumer products. Affinity is investing in AI companies, helping them partner with Middle Eastern investors for CapEx needs, and exploring ways to apply AI in their own portfolio companies to create efficiencies and new products.

What is Jared most proud of regarding his work in prison reform and what is left to accomplish?

Jared is most proud of the criminal justice reform efforts, particularly the First Step Act, which significantly reduced recidivism rates through skills training and early release programs. He hopes the incoming administration will build on these reforms to further reduce crime and improve inmates' lives.

What is Jared’s advice to businesses on how to engage with the Trump administration?

Jared advises businesses to engage respectfully and focus on outcomes rather than criticism. The administration is open to partnerships and pragmatic solutions, and business leaders can achieve more by working collaboratively.

What are the most important elements of the current geopolitical landscape according to Jared?

Jared highlights the Russia-Ukraine conflict, the Iranian nuclear program, and the potential for Saudi-Israel normalization as critical issues. He also emphasizes the importance of a fair global trading system and cooperation on AI between the U.S. and other countries.

How did Jared’s father influence his approach to leadership and business?

Jared’s father taught him the importance of hard work, leadership, and ethical business practices. He instilled a sense of responsibility and the value of family, which shaped Jared’s approach to problem-solving and building trust.

What is Jared’s vision for the Middle East and how does it align with his investment strategy?

Jared’s vision for the Middle East is to integrate countries economically, shifting focus from military spending to infrastructure, education, and innovation. This aligns with his investment strategy by identifying opportunities in regions with rising economic potential and strong political will.

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Jared Kushner shares his philosophy on challenges and success, emphasizing the importance of viewing setbacks as learning opportunities and training experiences. He highlights the importance of radical acceptance and focusing on controllable aspects of a problem.
  • Viewing setbacks as "training" opportunities.
  • Radical acceptance and focus on controllable factors.
  • Optimism and positivity lead to better outcomes.

Shownotes Transcript

My guest today is Jared Kushner). Jared has lived more lives than just about anyone I know his age. He ran Kushner companies for years, investing in real estate in and around New York City. He owned the New York Observer. He was a senior advisor to President Trump in his first term. He now runs Affinity Partners, which we discuss in detail, a private equity firm built to find and execute unique investments around the world that stem from Jared's unique set of experiences in business and government. This is one of our longest episodes ever because there was so much to discuss. We cover real estate, negotiation, geopolitics, his work in prison reform, Operation Warp Speed, and the Abraham Accords in the Middle East, business, investing, his family, and everything in between. Jared told me I could ask him about anything--and I really enjoyed doing so. Please enjoy my conversation with Jared Kushner.

My guests today For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.)

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Show Notes:

(00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best

(00:08:45) Jared's Philosophy on Challenges and Success

(00:13:38) Real Estate Ventures: The 666 Fifth Avenue Story

(00:20:31) Lessons from New York Real Estate

(00:30:04) Diplomacy and the Middle East

(00:37:03) Leadership and Change

(00:41:14) Geopolitical Landscape and Future Prospects

(00:47:53) Affinity Partners: Vision and Strategy

(00:52:42) Navigating Market Shifts

(00:54:39) Case Study: Mexico Investment

(00:58:34) Global Investment Strategies

(01:02:42) Investment Philosophy and Principles

(01:07:04) Challenges and Problem-Solving

(01:23:14) Government Efficiency and Bureaucracy

(01:34:57) Stepping into the Spotlight

(01:37:19) Manifesting Success with Partners

(01:38:05) Learning from Brad Jacobs

(01:42:09) Middle East Economic Development

(01:46:08) The Qatar-Saudi Reconciliation

(01:52:25) Perceptions of Key Middle Eastern Countries

(02:07:34) Preparing for Trump's Return

(02:14:36) Early Days of Thrive Capital

(02:16:56) Helping Entrepreneurs and Building Thrive

(02:24:51) Lessons from My Father

(02:37:47) Future Vision and AI

(02:48:45) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done For Jared