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Angie Sullivan
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Jennifer Welch
以幽默和讽刺风格主持《I've Had It》播客的室内设计师和电视人物。
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Lisa Rinna
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Jennifer Welch: 我最近因为我的法国斗牛犬而改变了很多,我开始变得像我在网上讨厌的那种人。我意识到,我不应该向一个我不认识也不在乎的人喋喋不休地谈论我的狗,即使是在油漆店里。我为我的行为感到羞愧,并开始反思自己。 Angie Sullivan: 我为之前对Jennifer关于她狗狗的过度担忧而道歉。我理解她对狗狗的爱,以及狗狗如何改变一个人。同时,我也批评那些炫耀自己对宠物严格管教的人,我认为他们是在炫耀自己的优越感,实际上是糟糕的宠物主人。他们应该停止炫耀,让他们的狗享受生活。

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Welcome to Asshole Island, patriots, gay-triots, and they-triots. Caw-caw! Caw-caw! Caw-caw! Doing one more caw-caw because Trump's America, we need all the caw-caws we can get. Triple your caw-caw. Triple your caw-caw because we're in triple the dog shit. There's no question about it, and I just want our listeners to know.

It doesn't matter who's in charge of this country. We still are citizens of Asshole Island. And we will not relent. And we will rebel. And we are not going to pre-surrender to this bullshit. No, we're not. Absolutely not. Pums, what have you had it with? Okay, what I've had it with is the person that I have become because of my French bulldog. I have become everything I hate in people on the internet, in real time.

Yesterday, I went to the paint store, talking to my neighbor, because he's my builder. He has Frenchies. We're talking about our Frenchies. I start telling him about the trials and tribulations of my dog that attacks other dogs, that attacks my oldest child, all these things. The guy at the register says to me, oh, you have a French bulldog. Yeah, I heard a lot of bad things about them. And instead of just being like, who the fuck cares? This guy's just trying to get your paint.

I have to go into a long diatribe about the attributes of my dog. When I start telling him that I'm an empty nester with the first puppy after my kids leave, that is when I realized you're a yak mouth. You're talking to somebody about something they don't care about. All he wants to do is to check you off the list and get you out of his face. And so all of a sudden, like the self-awareness slapped me in the face and I was just like,

You know what? You don't care. I'm going to go stand over here and wait for the paint. I mean, I was just hanging my head in shame that I had become a yat mouth defending a French bulldog to somebody that I don't even fucking know or care about. And I will never see again. What the fuck is wrong with me? I just want to know in this journey of self-discovery and introspection that you found yourself in at the paint store, did it ever occur to you, I owe somebody an apology? No, because I've apologized 50 times.

And said, oh my God, I can't believe now I get it. No. Do you want another one? Because I'll give you one. Yeah. I want it in the permanent record. Okay. Okay. In the permanent record, all the shit I gave you about Tebby and all your over the top mothering about Tebby. I was 100% wrong. I didn't understand it.

I didn't get it. I didn't have a frame of reference for the kind of love that you can have for one of these dogs and that this dog can turn you into a nut. Right. Just a fucking nut. Yeah. And at the same time that you want to just scream because this little French bulldog acts like such a shit.

And then he gives me a little face and I just melt away. So I am sorry. Thank you. I forgive you. Thank you. Yeah, I forgive you. It's Trump's America. I'm going to be more forgiving. That's right. We got to forgive the people that we care about more. Let me tell you, our grievances today are rather adjacent. Let me tell you what I've had it with. Okay. I've had it with people who you go over to their house and they're like, oh, we don't let our dogs on the sofa. Okay. And I just want to be like,

Then you know what? I'm leaving. You don't let your dog on the sofa. I don't want to be your friend. I don't want to sit on the sofa. I don't want to sit around you. Why on earth? And they're all so braggadocious about it. Oh, we don't let our dogs on the furniture. And I'm like, number one, why'd you get a dog? And number two, why are you bragging about being such a bad pet owner? There's this elitist, like, I'm better. I'm a better person than you because, oh, you're

we don't let our dog on the sofa or we don't let our dog sleep with us. Like I don't sit around and say, Oh, I let my dog on the sofa. Right. I let my dog sleep with me. I don't feel the need to say that because I know I'm in the right. Right. When you're right, you don't have to explain it all the time. These people and this constant bragging about how they have these boundaries with their pet. And I'm like,

Number one, I think you're just revealing that you're a bad person. And I just think the next time I'm at somebody's house and they start this nonsense, I'm going to say, well, if your dog can't sit on the sofa, I'm going to sit on the floor. I wonder what they would say. You know, here's when somebody says that like, oh, I don't let my dog on the sofa or whatever.

I don't let my dog sleep with me. I don't let my dog eat people food. Just quit bragging. Shut the fuck up. I think it's a flex. I think they think they're flexing. Like my dog's better behaved than your dog. That's what I kind of get. Yeah. I just want to get to the point where I can say my dog doesn't attack other dogs. That's my goal. I can't even fathom the sleeping behavior.

And the couch. The problem with you and your dog, Oliver Glizzard is the dog's name, whom I call Glizzy. The problem with you and Glizzy is he needs a pack leader.

And you see what happens when you bring him to the office to visit me. He immediately obeys commands. He looks up at me adoringly. And dogs thrive in this. You need to be a better, it's not that the dog is bad. It's your leadership in the relationship with your dog is bad. And you need to get on YouTube and watch how to be a pack leader with my dog videos.

I seriously, I think it's not a bad idea. They need, that's the way that it's in their DNA. And you're just like, there's no boundaries with him. And you know, when your son, your oldest son started, like, I think he was, I believe your daughter told me he was double birding him saying, fuck you, fuck you, you little spoiled dog. And the dog reacts. I'm team dog at that point.

Because if somebody was doing that to me, I'd want to growl and bark at them too. And so I think what we're lacking here is dog leadership. You need to learn to be a pack leader. And to all of the people listening that don't let their dogs on the sofa and are so sanctimonious because my dog doesn't sleep in bed with me and my dog only eats dog food. Give your dog away. Okay.

Go find your dog a good home. You're a bad pet owner. I'm tired of the bragging about like that you have this boundary with a creature that lives on average 10 years. That's all they've got. You're not going to let them sit on the sofa because you think you're such a badass boundary boss bitch. You boundary boss bitch. Let your fucking dog on the couch. I don't like it. I don't like it one bit. All right. Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. She is. Oh, you are.

The biggest egomaniac in podcasting. You love that so much. It was great. Kylie, what's going on on the internet? I've got a couple reviews for you guys. Okay. Do you want to start with the one star or the five star? The one. One. Okay. One star titled Chronic Complaining. And they write...

Yeah.

Here's what I have to say to this one-star reviewer. Is you're spot on. We are a problem recognition podcast. That's what we traffic in. We traffic in identifying problems and grievances. As to the solutions...

We're way over our skis on that. We would never be so arrogant and pretend to have so much hubris that we could solve said problems. We like to just revel in the grievance of the problems. Yeah, but I will say, I do think we've had a couple of really good ideas on the problem solving.

The TSA people, but if you're not ready. Social referees. Social referee, you have to go to the back of the line. Uber rating. Yep. People at restaurant, like the patrons. Don't vote for Trump. That was a great idea. And we pushed that. We tried. That was a really good idea. That was a really good idea. That was probably the best idea we've had since we started this podcast. Do not vote for Trump. Do not be a MAGA moron.

But apparently nobody listens to nobody listens to us. All they hear is problem. All they hear is problems. But we do like to traffic and problems. The name of the show is I've had it. The whole point is not it's complaining. It's not we'll show you how to fix it. No. So to that reviewer, the name of the podcast is not we'll fix it for you. We'll fix it. Solutions are us. That's what we need to change the name to with our and really push our social referees.

Okay, what the five star? Okay, five stars titled I would save Blessica. This is from Norway. And they write, every week when I tune into the podcast, I think of that long ago fateful time in US history, when baby Jessica fell down the well.

Pumps is so much older than Blessica that she will remember that circumnavigated tragedy. If today our amazing Blessica were to suffer the same fate, I would also demand that unnecessary community resources be used to save her. Thank you both from a Gatriot in Florida. When did I fall?

Down the well. What are they talking about? Isn't that an old movie, Baby Jessica, that fell down the well? Yeah. Remember the girl that fell down the well? It was in Texas. Yes. The little baby. Yes, yes, yes, yes. It took me a minute. Yes. It took me a minute. Yeah. I knew before you guys. That's incredible. That was before you were even probably alive. Hey, listen. Thank you, Norway. And I do believe that when you look at the happiest countries in the world, Norway is like top five. Yeah. Yeah.

For obvious reasons. They have lots of freedoms. They're hot. You know. Trump's not their president. Number one, first and foremost. Mike Johnson doesn't run around. They're not religious whack jobs. Right. They're normal. Yeah. They're just kind of a live and let liver. Okay. I have...

some news stories that I would like to share with you and our audience. Okay. And I'm going to read to you this first story. And I feel like they possibly got the nationality of this woman wrong. Okay. Because I think that it could have possibly been you. Oh, okay. All right. The headline is French woman scammed out of $850,000 after believing she was dating Brad Pitt. Okay.

The fraudster, posing as the Hollywood star, built an online relationship with Anne using AI-generated images and emotional manipulation.

Claiming to need funds for cancer treatment after his accounts were frozen by ex-wife Angelina Jolie, the scammer convinced her to send nearly 830,000 euros and grew suspicious after seeing Brad Pitt with his real girlfriend, leading her to report the incident to the authorities. Okay, here's the deal. Weren't you recently in France? Yes.

I was recently in France. And I will be the first to tell you I fall for most scams, pretty much most scams. But when I read that story, I thought, why would she think Brad Pitt needed $800,000? And then that makes more sense that Angelina froze his assets, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I go back to, if you haven't seen him in person, like...

As crazy as I am about falling for scams, I hate to say it, but I just don't think I would send somebody $850,000 that I'd never met in person. Moreover, that I think is Brad Pitt. Let me ask you this. When's the last time you were on that prison website dating matchup thing? It's been over a year. Okay. Okay.

Let me ask you one more question. And I'm sure people are going to get mad at me for needling you on this, but I cannot help myself. Okay. When you had that affair with that married man, here's the timeline that I remember is a friend of yours noticed on his Facebook page. He's at like a football game doing like the hook and horn thing, or maybe the hook and horn down. I can't remember. And on his left,

ring finger, there's a wedding band. Right. And so then you confront this man that you had been dating for several months. And he tells you that he wore the wedding band for the feelings of his co-workers so that they wouldn't... He didn't tell them about the divorce. He's been divorced for 10 years, but he continued to wear the wedding band so the co-workers didn't get upset about his divorce. And I believe...

I don't believe I know that then you called me and you said, oh, it all makes perfect sense now. Yeah. Until I said it out loud. He wears the ring because he hadn't told his coworkers. And so he's really still divorced. Blah, blah, blah. And I go, Angie, if it walks like a duck.

Yeah. Talks like a duck. Yeah. And I was like, yeah. Originally, you kind of bought that. Yeah, because when you don't say it out loud, sometimes when you're just in your head and you're like, oh, okay, da, da, da, and then you say it out loud, you're like, that fucking is crazy. Right. So, but I really don't think I would send $850,000 to a person that I've never seen in person. So let's do your punch list. Okay.

Never going to date an inmate. Right. Never going to date an inmate. And you would not fall for a scam of someone impersonating a celebrity. Brad Pitt. Oh, any celebrity? Any celebrity. Yeah, I don't think I would. I think you could fall prey. Well, how would I even think that I met a celebrity? You believe that that man wore that wedding ring for the feelings of the coworkers. For $5,000 worth. I know. Okay. Another news story is evangelical pastor,

It says, Jesus hasn't returned due to the lack of donations. What? During a recent four-day live TV event entitled Victorython, right-wing evangelical pastor Jesse Duplant claimed that people are not being generous enough to churches. Hence, why Jesus has not returned from the dead, he says.

I honestly believe this. The reason why Jesus hasn't come is because people are not giving the way God told them to give. When you understand this, you can speed up the time. He continued to suggest that if people called the number at the bottom of the screen, God the Father would say, Jesus, go get them. Here's the sad thing about that. People called that number and gave money because of that. I mean, that's...

So fucking crazy. And that is not limited to this generation. I remember, now you're probably too young, but there was a crazy ass minister in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Oral Roberts. Oral Roberts. And he locked himself in the top floor of a building, like it was a super high building. And he said he would not come down

Because Jesus would not want him to come down until he had a million dollars in donations. And as soon as he got the million dollars in donations, boom. I don't know if it was... I thought he said that God was going to kill him if he didn't get the donations. Well, I mean, my memory served was he had to get the donations before he could come down. If your version of it is that... Kylie, Google it. What Oral Roberts was. Was he...

What was his thing? Was he going to – if your thing was that he was going to lock himself in the tower until he got a million dollars. He was going to die if he didn't get eight million. He's going to die. Oh, he was going to die. God was going to kill him. Okay. Did he get the eight million? Because it seems like he didn't. He did. He did. He did.

So he, yeah, that God, you know, my mother. Right. She was probably more into it than I was. So into all of this because she's not religious at all. And we had to live in this Bible belt. And she's like, look at what a scam this guy is. And to me, that's fraudulent. That's just total fraud. It's totally criminal. And the fact that the federal government and IRS has not rained hellfire on these racket people.

bullshit indoctrination schools, all these asshole academies, all of these all over the United States that raise these kids to think that if they have sexual thoughts that they're going to hell and all this Christian nationalism bullshit all the way to this guy. The fact that that hasn't been handled and they...

They commit fraud and financially abuse people with impunity in this country. And all of it led to, just like the Stanley Cups, Trumpism. All of it. All of that shit led to Trumpism. I guarantee you the student body at Oral Roberts University is a MAGA party.

pep rally. I'm sure. Of just, and you know, the porn and the gay sex. Oh, you know, it is just off the charts. The fact that they're still operating after somebody committed that kind of scam and people wonder, I wonder how Trump got elected. I wonder. There's a straight line. Fishy. It's fishy. Really fishy. Okay. Today we have a guest.

Kylie was just telling me that this guest is a gay icon. Yeah, she is. Much like pumps. I don't know about that. And her name is Lisa Rinna.

And Pumps and I are old enough to remember when she was on the soap opera called Days of Our Lives. I never missed her. Her name was Billie. I remember that. I remember Days of Our Lives, you could still watch while you were in school because it came on at like 3.30. So you could get home from school at like 3, race in and watch Days. And God, soap operas were such a part of growing up in the 80s. Yes. And we all talked about it. It was like, oh my gosh. And you'd have to

Like, I remember missing class in college when there was something going on on days. Like, I couldn't miss it because there was something going on on days. Like, I should have just skipped to Friday because nothing would have happened. But anyway, yeah, soap operas were huge.

Anyway, she has had a long career, including acting, soap operas, modeling, including a little stint in Playboy magazine. Yeah, she looks good. Mom of two, married to Harry Hamlin for 20 years, and just recently left The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And we're going to get all of the tea. Let's welcome to I've Had It, Lisa Renna.

Listener, this may come as a total shock to you, but Pumps and I have not always been this pulled together and rock solid. In fact, we used to be rather screwed up when you say Pumps. I would say damn near psychotic. Totally. And we have written a cell phone expose. One could even say it's a manifesto. And the book title is...

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Okay, let's welcome to I've Had It, Billy from Days of Our Lives, Lisa Rinna. Lisa, Pumps and I are of the generation where Days of Our Lives was our life. And I loved you on Days of Our Lives. I remember you always going in and causing trouble in that little room by the nurse's station. And I just thought, I fucking love her. You guys, you know how long ago that was? Let's not talk about it. Yeah, let's not talk about it.

Guys, that was like 35 years ago. No, I was all in. I mean, I remember when you were coming on, the first thing that thought in my head was, oh my gosh, Billy's coming on. I would get off the school bus and race home to turn on Days of Our Lives. Yes. Yes.

I know. I mean, we all grew up watching it. I watched it with my mom. So imagine growing up watching it and then getting a role on the show. It was like I'd won an Oscar. I swear to God. How old were you? My mom was so thin. I was 25. I bet that was so exciting because soap operas for, we have a lot of younger listeners, but back in the day, like soap operas were peak glam. Like the prettiest actors were always on soap operas.

You know, I never thought of it that way, but you're right. I mean, and you're in people's homes every single day. So it's like, well, I think, you know, housewives kind of became that in a way, but nothing is like that because it's every single day, five days a week. And so the audience just really feels like they know you. I mean, there's no fan like a soap fan.

Yeah. No fan like a soap fan. As you can tell, 35 years later, we're still we're team Billy. We're team Billy all day. Okay. So Lisa, you know, we like to traffic and specialize in petty grievances. Oh, fabulous. We like to park our asses in the problem and just let it marinate there for a little bit. I actually know that you do that. So to be on brand, what have you had it with? Oh, well.

What comes up for me right away is people telling me to act my age and grow up, grow up watching a dance video of mine where I'm clearly being, you know, ridiculous and stupid, grow up. Okay. So my question to you is how old do you have to be in order to be grown up?

I mean, I think that's a great question. Also, you get so many mixed messages from the Internet. You're only as young as you feel. And then when you start acting young and you're having fun, then it's grow up. And what I think this leads into are all of these keyboard courage warriors that sit and monitor people.

and patrol and write up on people's comment section. Cause I love that your give a fuck meter is broken. I agree. I think that is like so liberating as a person to finally let your give a fuck meter go. Yeah. And I love that about you.

Thank you. It's true. I mean, that's gone long gone. I think when I turned 50, the give a fuck meter went out the window, to be honest, like it just I just didn't care at all. And I still get myself in, you know, a great amount of trouble, but I still don't care. I really don't.

I'm like, what, what's the worst thing that can happen to me? You know, I mean, that's the way I look at it. It's like, I've already been through so much. Fuck it. I'm just going to have a good time. And if you don't like it, then don't follow me. I mean, I'm not putting a gun to your head to watch my content. That's what makes me laugh. I'm like, um, okay. So you actually don't follow me, but you're still here watching, telling me to grow up. Yeah.

Yes, we get that all the time. It's hate watching. They love to hate watch. It's hate.

I've never thought of it like that. Does that give them a hit of dopamine? Oh, a hundred percent. But they love to hate you, which I started that with the love part. We get trolled all the time online. Oh, I bet you do. But I just think like, I'm just so flattered that even if it's hate that they're taking the time to stop by and put that energy into that. Because if I don't like something, call me crazy. I don't invest energy into it.

Same. Exactly. The energy that they put into their hate is something that I find complimentary. That's really good. I love that. You know, you're absolutely right. And you know what's ironic? I find that let's say I were to see that person in person and say, hi, I'm

they would be like, Oh my God, I love you so much. Or, or even if I respond to them and clap back for a second, they love it. They're like, Oh my God, you noticed me. They just want attention. God love them, you know, negative or, or positive like a toddler. Yes. Yeah, it's true. Okay. So how many seasons were you on real housewives of Beverly Hills?

Eight. Eight. And so the last season, was it your idea to leave or did y'all part ways mutually? Well, both. It was my idea to leave first and then they didn't stop me. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like no one said, oh, please don't go. So to me, that tells you that it's time to go. Cause I said, I'm leaving. That's it. I think they show my email at the end of one of the, or beginning of one of the new seasons saying, you know, the, after the reunion, I came home and, and now I look back on it. I was going to say goodbye on the reunion. I was actually going to announce it on the reunion. And then I chickened out.

And so once I got home, I sent the email. So, okay. I want to ask you a question about now you're off Real Housewives. You are glad that you're off and everybody's going to think that I'm the skunk at the garden party for asking this, but I'm going to ask it.

Do you think that some of these housewife shows that depict women in the most stereotypical cartoonish ways that our personalities can be in the overall trajectory of women trying to, you know, advance in workplace politically, et cetera, is helpful or hurtful? Because I go back and forth. Well, I think it's both.

But I also think that's kind of our issue as women, you know, in general, like we don't get 100 percent positivity. We're always fighting stereotypes. Yeah. Right. And that is like typical women.

And, you know, it's hard to do that because I mean, to do a show like that, because you're at the mercy of the edit. You know, people people really saw probably 20 percent of who I am and who all the women are. You don't really see us other than how we are edited. Really. You know what I mean? And it serves the story perfectly.

It's it's much easier to build a character that way, whether you're a good girl, a villain, however they want to do it. Listen, we all have all those sides to us. It would be easy to make me really nice and easy to make me a real bitch, which they've done. They did all of that on the show in eight years.

Okay, now we're going to play a game and we have an extended version of it called Had It or Hit It. Oh my God. Welcome to Had It or Hit It. I would hit it. Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. Okay, Lisa, Had It or Hit It couples tattoos. Had it. Okay, what would you do if Harry Hamlin came home today and he had a I Love Lisa tattoo on his bicep?

Oh, it'd be kind of cute, actually, if you think about it. Would you reward him with sex? Would it turn you on? I don't know if it would turn me on. I think it's cute and sweet. I don't think I don't love tattoos. I have no tattoos and I'm not a big tattoo chick. You know what I mean? So I know I'm not I'm not going to. I mean, maybe I'll give him a blow job, but I mean, just for the effort. Right. Right. For the for the pain that he suffered. Right.

I love it. Okay, next up. Had it or hit it, Hugh Hefner. Oh, oh, oh. It's a tough one. It's hard.

Yeah, because, you know, I have history there. But I'm going to say both. Can I do both? Yeah, of course. Both. So you went to the Playboy Mansion? Yeah. They had a party at the mansion for me when I did my first Playboy Pregnant with Delilah. And I had only just had her six weeks earlier. So I was a fucking mess. I was like a mess. So I barely remember it going to the Playboy Mansion together.

Like totally postpartum. Like how insane is that? Right.

You know, we talked about this once. We had those girls, the girls next door on the podcast. And Hugh Hefner, like if you grew up in our generation, he was, you know, ubiquitous. It was kind of like every male wanted to be him. But he died in the perfect time, like right before the Me Too movement because that motherfucker would have been KO'd like nobody's business. I mean, he would have never recovered from it. So we asked them that and then we're asking you that. And it's kind of like,

Like our pre-Me Too brain, you kind of think, oh, hit it. And then you start to think about what all women had to go through. And then it's like, oh, wait, had it. So I think that's a very normal reaction to the evolution of how women think about their worth moving forward and the progress we've made in that department, that there was a pause on your part. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

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I'm not very much anymore. I certainly don't watch any housewives shows. I think once you do it, you that's it, honey, you're done. I don't watch any of that. But I do watch a couple reality shows every once in a while. I do. Yeah, you know, I think that there's whether it's housewives, what you did or politics,

become a caricature of who they really are. That's the truth. And so there's this caricature, Lisa Rinna. There's a caricature of Barack Obama. There's a caricature of Kamala Harris. Totally.

And then you have all the people that love that caricature and all the people that hate that caricature. And none of it is really like authentic. Yeah, I know. And it's frustrating. That's what's really frustrating, I think, because that's what everybody does nowadays. I mean, if you look at your TikTok or your Instagram, like it's an edited version of us. It's not it's not completely authentic. This is something that we talk about here on the podcast quite a bit.

And I want to get your take on it. Had it or hid it, vow renewals. Hate it. No. Had it. Never. Okay. We made a list a couple of episodes ago and the list is the signs that you know

Somebody's fucking around and they want everybody to prevent everybody from finding out. The top of the list was vow renewal. You know, the marriage is in trouble. Five years they're divorced. I've always said that. I've always said we will never do a vow renewal because if you do, your marriage is over.

Period. Exactly. So we had vow renewal and then communicating with each other online. Right. It would be like you and Harry, like he posts something instead of putting your heart, you're like, oh my God, baby, you look so hot. And he's like, no, I can't wait to see you later. Have you not seen these couples that full blown performative in a thread? No.

I have not. Lisa, no. It's really great reading. It's so fucked up. Really want to read it. We'll text you some of these. There's a couple. Would you please? That we have on our watch list that we watch that exclusively does this. Mind you, they're sitting on the sofa next to each other, yet they're communicating in an Instagram feed or a Facebook feed for an audience. So this is number two that your relationship is in major, major precarious position.

Yes, I would have to agree. And if that ever happens, if anyone ever sees Harry and myself do that, please take me out back and shoot me. Like right away. Yeah. What was our number three tattoos? Yeah. Like couple tattoos. Yeah. So you're right in line with us that all of these things are performative bullshit. Performative bullshit. And I literally worked with women for,

for eight years that literally it, I mean, no one's together anymore over there. Harry and I are like the last couple standing. So I watched it all play out in eight years, what you're talking about. I knew it was going to happen. You saw it coming.

Yeah, of course. Oh, and Housewives is like prime for vow renewals. Yeah. And so we were on a reality show. You were? Yeah, on Bravo. Two years, had Evolution Media the whole night. It was called Sweet Home Oklahoma. Oh, I didn't know that. So you worked for Alex Baskin too. Alex Baskin. Yeah. And so my husband and I...

divorced quite some time ago because he's had problems with prescription pill addiction. We got back together. He's sober now. Everything's great. We got back together. We have two boys together, but neither of us is like super religious or anything. So we didn't feel the need to like go remarry, but I call him husband. He calls me wife, et cetera. So when the production team was in Oklahoma, I saw on this board ideas that they had pitched and one of them

So Jennifer and Josh vow renewal. And I just like, I pulled the showrunner over and I was like, that is never going to fucking happen ever, ever. I'm not doing it. And if I did it, I wouldn't do it on TV because that wouldn't be about Josh and me. Like I'm not fucking doing that.

But so I, we, yeah, we know some of the, and they were real cool about it. They're like, okay, that's fine. We don't want you to do anything that you would normally do. But yeah. Yeah. Okay. Had it or hid it. Trad wives. I think it's the dumbest thing ever. And I've had it. So stupid. And I really do think, I mean, not to like take it too far, but I do think it sets women back around saying, oh, make your husband happy. Make him a hot meal. I mean, fantastic.

off. You know, we need to talk about when people use the word traditional, they're just disguising their prejudices by saying- That's right. You're right. You're right. It's just they're trying to use a PC word. But whenever I hear a guy say, oh, I'm traditional, then we know he's sexist.

And it what comes up in my head is Handmaid's Tale. Yes, exactly. Rapidly heading back to. Yes, we are. Had it or hit it. Elon Musk. Well, I've had it with that bullshit. Bullshit. Had it. It's all bullshit. You know, it's total bullshit. And what's scary about it, though, is he's probably going to be the first person to be a trillionaire. Think about that.

It's insane. A trillionaire. It is insane, Lisa. And so I've had this whole like thought process about all of this. And here's kind of like my evolution on it. I've always been left voted Democrat because I'm not a fucking crazy person. All right. That's why I've done that.

And when Bernie ran against Hillary, I bought into the Democratic establishment like, no, we got to have Hillary, blah, blah, blah. And I like Hillary. I think she was smart, highly qualified, all of the stuff. Highly, highly, highly qualified and sharp as a tack.

But as I look back on a lot of the shit that he was saying back then, Bernie, he was right about the oligarchy forming and the consolidation of wealth at the top and that we are the wealth disparity is getting the middle classes shrinking and that's not going to be sustainable for our country. And they use, you know, religion. We live in Oklahoma. We live in the Bible Belt. We have a total abortion ban here, Lisa. She has a daughter. I have two sons. You have two daughters.

Can you, it's just insane. Like when I think about the days of all of us watching days of our lives without smartphones and, you know, we didn't have to worry about this kind of stuff. And now here we are to where, you know, if her daughter, something happens, medical or whatever reason, it's her, only her daughter's business. She has to travel to another state. And then they're talking about criminalizing that. They're going to, my guess is there will be a total abortion ban in the next couple of months.

Yeah. I mean, they've said it. So they are going to do everything that they said they would do. I agree. I think he's going to. And I feel like right now more than ever, it is a very important time for women to not pre-surrender. And if you think about the inauguration, look at who had balls. Michelle Obama said, fuck that. I'm not doing that. And Karen Pence. Yeah.

Mike Pence's wife? Mother had more balls than all these men? Nancy Pelosi?

I agree. And why the fuck was Mike Pence there? He's a pussy. Are you kidding me? Because he's a pussy. That's why. I mean, fucking pussy. I am sorry. But that really surprised me. But yet it didn't. Exactly. That's the thing. But you're right. Look at these women that said, fuck you. The women stood up. And so...

I think it's a really important time to remind all of our listeners and all of your fans, which we know that you have a huge gay following and a lot of younger people, and we do too. It's important to let these people know.

We're not going to go the ways of Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos. We're not going to sell out like that. We have conviction. We are not. And we're going to stand with you. And we're not going to pre-surrender to this fascist fucking regime. And we are going to stand strong. And I think it's important that all of these people, all of these gay kids that live in these horrible,

red MAGA hellscapes need to know that the Lisa Renna's and the gems and the pumps of the world we're not going to shut the fuck up it's not happening

It's not happening and we will never go kiss that fucking ring ever. Ever. There's not a bank account big enough that would get me to that Roach Motel Mar-a-Lago to kiss his teeny tiny miniature little hand. I'm sorry, but listen, I'm so disgusted just in the last day.

of seeing who has turned. Yeah. Just if you open up your Instagram, it's fucking disgusting. I will always be there for my gays and for my trans family. I mean, that somebody has to stand up for these people. That's right. And women. Women have to do it. And women. Yeah. I mean, come on. If like, why? Why aren't we revolting in the streets? Because people are fucking scared. Because people

he's going to come after you. He's going to tie you up in the courts. Like who knows what, but people are scared and we have to let them know that that's how we've always had and kept our freedom. You have to fight. We have to fight now.

And we do still have the First Amendment. And as a group, we still have agency over exercising that. That's right. And the most dangerous thing at the formation of dictatorships or fascist regimes is the pre-surrender. And you see that that happened. Could you imagine that you ascended all the way to be a billionaire only to be beholden to a man that can't even blend his goddamn makeup? True.

Can you imagine how humiliating that would be, Lisa?

It is so fucking embarrassing. Those guys are like fucking little nerdy wimps who were always, you know, no woman would ever give them the time of day. And all of a sudden this fucking orange Cheeto fucking whatever. And like, we could go on and on. They go and sit and kiss the ring. How fucking embarrassing is that? How humiliating is that? Emasculating.

It's and they talk about being alpha males ad nauseum. And I'm like, there's nothing more emasculating than what you did. And saying you're an alpha male and saying that you're tough and cool means you're probably not. And you're probably gay. You know what I mean? You're probably fucking gay and you're just a homophobic. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to get so much trouble. Jeffrey, my publicist is probably like, oh, my God. Fucking Jesus. I said, if you're going to put me on podcasts, like, get ready, because I'm

You know, I stopped doing podcasts when I was on the show on Housewives because I got myself into so much trouble. It just wasn't worth it. So I haven't done podcasts since 2017. Lisa, here's the thing. Number one, in Trump's America, if that motherfucker can commit felonies and grab him by the pussy and all that shit, but we're going to be scared sitting on here standing up for marginalized people and standing up for our country. And that's wrong. I don't want to be right. You know, I don't either.

I don't either. I'm with you. I, I will never, ever kiss that ring. No, I know that ring. I've worked with that. Those people I've been in the same room with all of them. They're all fake and they're all atheists. Yeah. I said it.

Lisa, I cannot tell you how much I love you. I love the authenticity. I love that you came on here and we want all of the people that are scared in this country right now to know that you're not alone and we're going to get through this and we're not going to shut the fuck up and we're not going to kiss the ring because Lisa Rinna's got our backs. That's right. That's right. That's fucking right. Lisa, thank you so much for coming on.

It's a pleasure. It was really fun. Thank you. And hopefully, hopefully I'll see you again. I love it. Bye Lisa. Lover. Here's the thing. Sometimes you meet people and you think, I really like this person. I think they're cool. I like they're outspoken, all the things and they under deliver.

Not Lisa Rinna. I feel like she's an over-deliverer. She over-delivered. I think that we all have what I was talking about, that caricature idea of what a real housewives of whatever given city it is. And you think hysterical, materialistic, no depth, not a whole lot of intellect. And that's just what the American psyche thinks about these people. Right.

And then you get her on and we've had some of the other housewives on. She's smart. She has conviction. She has a spine. She stands up for something. She, you know, clearly has a fantastic marriage, is a good mother and gives a shit. She fucking gives a shit. And she has the balls to get on this podcast and say, fuck them. Fuck the patriarchy. I think it's all bullshit. Fuck them all. And I love her for that. I love her. She's wonderful.

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