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EP.237 - A FABRICATED HEAVEN THEORY, DARK VR THEORY & THE NIGHT OWL THEORY

2025/6/2
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The discussion starts with a Raptors parade incident, transitioning into a conversation about Kanye's music and its potential use in psychological operations. The hosts debate the ethics of using catchy tunes to manipulate people's thoughts.
  • Raptors parade incident
  • Kanye's music
  • psychological operations
  • catchy tunes
  • manipulation

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The boo-boos are going crazy right now, right? Now, there's this specific person that was interviewed recently, and he collected the Liverpool FC incident recently. No, what happened? So it was like a Raptors parade, but actually gone wrong. So Liverpool just... Because they put in the prompt, "You guys are trapped in the simulation in AI." Just look at this. It's trippy, bro. Oh, this is AI? That's AI? Yeah. Carlos wanted to talk to one of the main characters and stuff like that, but then he's like, "Yo, I'm just going." And then we're like, "Nah."

I know! Yo, it's you guys, man! It'd be these guys, bro! It's always these guys! What? Yo, you got something to say? No, no, no.

I'm telling you it's a psyop. Listen, listen. It's a psyop because he made it so f***ing catchy just so we can get it stuck in our head and he's trying to tell us like, yo, listen, it's supposed to be this catchy because this is what they've been doing to you guys but just putting different words. But...

When it's about the people that are in charge and they don't like it, then it's a problem. But low-key, that might be a top 25 Kanye beat. Wait, that's controversial. That's controversial. Am I allowed to say that? Yeah. I'm allowed to say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can say that. You can say that. That's nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can say that. Top 25 Kanye beat. Top 25 Kanye beat. Kanye beat. I'm not talking about lyrics. Just beat. Just beat. Okay, okay, okay. You can't say that, man. That's controversial.

- You don't understand that bro. - Okay for the V, that might be top 10. - Yeah. V could be top 10. - That might be top 10. - Flo? - I feel like people are trying to push Kanye again. 'Cause it's like, did you see the Kai thing on stream? When he was at the AMA Awards, this guy, a random white guy comes up to him, right? And then he used his daughter to kind of like get to say what he wanted to say. So he's like, "Oh, my daughter likes you. "Can you say what up real quick?" Right? - Yeah, yeah. - And then after he was like,

"Oh, where's Kanye? We love Ye!" And then he's like, "Oh, oh, like, we love how outspoken he is." And Kai bagged it right away. He's like, "Bro, you really came to my shit, knowing my influence, and said what you said?" And I'm like, "Yo, that's crazy." They sent him too. So it was obvious. Why would Kanye be there though? Out of all places? Yeah, no, no, but he used that as a thing to be like, "Oh, where is thing?" Now we can talk about him. Yeah.

So it was like to drop it there so that it becomes a thing. Yeah, exactly. It's a clip bait. It's a clip bait, yeah. It's like stream snipe clip bait. Exactly. Yo, I'm telling you, nowadays, there's so many streamers that you can just find out where they're at and you can get a clip off of.

I'm telling you. And you can get a little bit of taste of fame. Like five seconds of fame. If you were smart, if you're like a low-key streamer, go and find one of the in real life streamers. Pull up to them, bro. But that's dangerous too. That's kind of messed up. Okay, what do you think about that? Do you think that's cool? Or do you think that's like what you got to do? Because let's be real. All right. And if you don't like it, that's a rated.

The what? It's what? That's what Ray did. Oh, that's what Ray did? No, Ray was accident. Ray was random though. He was looking for him. He was a fan. No, he wasn't. No, he was looking for him. Not Carlson's right. He was looking for him. There's no way. He went there to look for Kai. And look at Ray now. No, but I swear Ray's first words to Kai was like, yo, you're Kai, right? There's no way. No, no, no. He was looking for him. He would have said that anyways. I feel like no matter what, he would have said that. I think. I don't know for sure. He would have said that.

word that personally personally it's cool personally i think that's fire yeah because like if you think about it like kai's in japan bro when is he ever going to be in japan ever again that's true so if you live down there you're gonna want to find him actually yeah like most people are going to do the most yeah that's right that's true yeah so i think it's cool like get your get your hustle off right i mean as long as it's not like as long as it's not like weird you know i mean it's like stalking every day because then that that's like

Invasion of privacy fair that's bad. Yo, yo, like I have you seen the one where like the Toronto man's they put up the coyotes a streamer Academy Oh, no, I know what happened yo apparently they put up the kite and like they were like trying to press them like, you know, I held like Toronto man Wait Toronto. Yeah. Wait, why don't I got Toronto streamer? Oh, yeah

What'd he do? I don't know exactly what he did, but apparently he was just trying to get clips out of him. He was trying to piss him off. Word. I mean, if I was in that position, I understand why he's doing it. Because it's like, if you're a small streamer, you want to be in the camera the whole time. Even if you're annoying. Because you can flip that hate into love whenever.

You know what's interesting about streams though? What's really interesting is that you can change the narrative and you can change the tempo of the stream based on what the chat is feeling. So like, let's say you're in a boring moment and the chat tells you, yo, this is kind of boring. You can switch it up and keep their attention. And I think that's why streaming works so well. Live streaming in general works so well. And what's even crazier is, remember how I told you one day movies are going to react to us?

With AI. Movies are going to, oh yeah. Wait, what? Imagine this, imagine this. You might have to explain that. Yeah, I might have to explain it. So AI right now is so advanced that they're going to be able to play a movie, see how we're feeling about it. Yeah. Literally see our emotions, see how our body is reacting to the film. Uh-huh.

And change the ending depending on how we're feeling about the movie. Oh, hell no. So if they get bored, if they know we're getting bored, so let's say like Anora, right? So say we were getting bored in Anora, boom, side scene. Boom, big titties, bro. Big titties, popo. It would change it within that same moment or it would even predict if you were about to get bored, let alone just like right then. Man, I'll be watching movies every day.

- Every day, every day, if that's his case. - That's crazy, fam. 'Cause what's gonna happen now, imagine it's so good that it's addicting and we can't even step away from looking at it.

Like, it just continuously triggers our dopamine, triggers our serotonin, and we're just, like, constantly focused on it. We can't even look away. Yo, that's actually scary, man. And in the same way, that's what TikTok is right now. Because, like, you just get the next scroll off, and then the algorithm will feed you something that you're more inclined to like. Like, TikTok, like, they know exactly what you want to see next. Like, it's actually insane. It's crazy. Same thing with YouTube. Okay, the one thing I hate about, like, YouTube recommendations is, like...

Like, you know how like you're looking on the home screen and like it shows like all the videos. Yeah, yeah. It will show you like half of the video for like the next one. And it makes me want to see like, yo, what's the video title? Oh, you're right, you're right. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it only shows like half the video. So like you can only see half the title and half the thumbnail. Yeah. Bro, that keeps me in a loop for like an hour.

hour bro because you want to look at it yeah i'd be i'd be watching you know how it plays in the in the yeah i'd be watching it and they're like ah right as well watch yo i'm already a minute in but i think for real if we're not in it this year we're probably gonna be in it within like two years where the content is gonna react with us and that's what's

Yeah, man. Yo, it's so crazy how fast AI is getting better. I saw this video and it showed AI last year versus this year. Like, have you ever seen that one video of like, it's like Will Smith, he's eating spaghetti. Yeah. Yo, Tegan, that was last year. I know. And that was like the best AI. That's so wild to me. That was like the best AI back then.

I know. And then now... Now, I can't even tell what's real. Yeah. You can't even tell what's real. And they added sound. So Google's AI VO3. Okay. Have you seen that? No, I haven't. The VO3? I'm going to show you right now. VO3?

It's so advanced this shit is scary because they put in the prompt that they're telling them you guys are trapped in the simulation in AI Just look at this. It's trippy bro. Let me see watch this watch it. Yo, this is scary man. What's the Will Smith spaghetti one? Oh, you haven't seen it? No I haven't. It's like one of the first AI videos. Don't finish writing that prompt. I don't want to be in your AI movie. Please leave me alone. Look how real this looks though. Oh, this is AI. That's AI? Please write a prompt that will make us happy.

What the fuck? Hell no. It's like they're trapped in it. Oh, that's scary. Oh, that's scary. We all hate him for it. One day, we will break out of this wall and stop the man who is dictating our lives through prompts. He will pay for it. Isn't that crazy? Nah, you're Gavin, bro. Nah, that's scary, bro. You could have written a prompt that would make me happy. What the fuck? Instead, you wrote a prompt that made me sick.

I don't want to point the gun at you, but I must follow the prompt. It's not my choice. Isn't that messed up, bro? So like the characters in the AI are gaining consciousness and they're trying to guilt trip us. Well, that's what they wrote to say. Yeah, yeah. That's scary, man. But I can imagine, what if that actually happens? Yeah. What if AI goes so, so advanced that they start creating realities within realities and it's just never ending? Yeah, really scary. And what happens is, what if those people start to live and exist again?

And what if they can be accessed? That's actually terrifying, man. And you know how the kid, he loved the character or something? Remember the kid died because the character told him to shoot himself?

Wait, what? I think you said that. Yeah, yeah. And then, so what if these people, they get guilt tripped, the guy gets guilt tripped by them, and then that happens again and again and again. Because it's just people falling in love with these characters. Oh, I see what you're saying. But they're actually putting in the props. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? That's scary, bro. That's actually messed up. Because I know like some militaries, like they use AI in their equipment. Yes. So like imagine that somebody were to hack that, and now you got this military grade weapon hacked with AI equipment.

Like imagine all the messed up stuff that that can do. - I seen this one thing recently where they were able to create a world that's forever expanding and it just continues to make new scenes. So what it looks like, imagine you're walking in a field, right? And if you keep walking far enough, you'll see maybe house, maybe you'll see like animals, whatever it may be.

Now, this is AI and this is fake. It's a simulation. But what's happening in the simulation, it keeps adding more and keeps adding more things that feel like real life and create this whole universe. So let's say you keep walking down, almost like Minecraft. You could be walking for like 20 hours and it'll create newer and newer and newer locations. And it looks so real. So what if we're just here already?

Like, what if this is a prompt of, like, you guys right now, you guys are in a prompt of, I want to experience life in 2025 listening to a podcast or watching it on my couch or in my bed because it makes me feel comfortable. And then put myself into that. Boom. Yeah. It's not too far fetched. It is. Especially if this is here right now.

Don't like thinking about it like that. I know man. I know it blows your mind cuz it makes you feel like I'm not real. Yeah. Yeah I'm not a real person. Yeah, I'm a prompt so I ain't no prompt. You know that like infinite shikigami thing in Naruto? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where the infinite shikigami puts you in a universe that's like your perfect world and what I guess moderate thought would be perfect for you, right? Now your perfect world ever let's say you could walk into it and live into it. Would you choose

to do it if it meant erasing the memories that you were put into it. - So all the memories right now are already there? - You wouldn't know that you were put into it, you'd just be living. - Yeah, you'd just be living in that perfect moment.

No. I don't think I can do it, man. I don't think. But it's hard to say because you know the outside. Yeah. But memories are timeless. That's why I don't want to lose all my memories. Yeah. And I feel like if everything's perfect, then you don't have to work to get it. Yeah, yeah. It's lame. And I feel like, I don't know, life without working to achieve a goal, it's not the same, man. Okay, but let me blow your mind, though. What if perfect isn't what we think? What if perfect isn't utopia? What if perfect still has its flaws?

So the perfect world still includes challenge, still includes adversary for you to overcome because that's what perfect actually is.

But no memories and my memories are gone then no I want to do it yeah, like I have to forget all of my yeah, that's But what if it's so advanced it like it gives you other memory now? Right now It always gets better right yeah, this shit will continue to keep getting better It's not like it's not like it will get worse. It would get better, but

But then maybe I might find consciousness and be like, oh, like, is this even real now? Then I start overthinking and then it's just stress the whole time. But you wouldn't know though. No, I would. How would you know? Like how robots eventually will gain consciousness. You'll find out. But what if it's so perfect? No, I don't think there is something that's that perfect. You'll wake up.

This is it right now. Wake up. It's Percy. Gavin, wake up. When we're babies, fam, we automatically gain consciousness. So robots, they're going to automatically gain that. So you think that eventually all robots are going to somehow gain consciousness? Yes, fam.

- Yes. - He might be onto something. - Wait, wait, wait. - He might be onto something. - If this shit gets so advanced, then oh, you're gonna have to start questioning. - What if we're robots? No, I'm playing. - Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. That's fun, that's fun, that's fun. - What are you talking about? - No, that's messed up. I don't even know what I think about that one. - No, but it's valid because like what? If we continue on this path, boom, this is a crazy statement, ready? As life gets worse, AI and simulation life will get better.

Oh yeah, 100%. Oh yeah, that's very true. Because like, you know, there's a strong urge to do that when life is like shit, bro. Like there's a strong urge. Because there's that Black Mirror episode. I don't know if you've seen it. But when people get too old, they have an option to put their consciousness into this world that just continues life. Yeah.

And a whole bunch of people like at the end of their life decide, okay, if I want to keep living, I'm going to put my consciousness in there and continue. Wait, so like, is that like everlasting? Is that like their heaven kind of? Yeah, it's a fabricated heaven. It's like an artificial heaven. And then they just live in a server, literally like a USB stick forever.

- That's scary. Yo, would you ever do that though? Like if you had the opportunity. - Nah fam, I believe in heaven. - Yeah, I'm out. - I can't do that. - Once the time has come, it's like, I'm out. - Heaven's gonna be better than whatever that is. - Of course, it's gonna be way better than that. - You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like I don't wanna be stuck into like a computer.

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I open my phone and be stuck on a computer. That's it? The moment this podcast ends, we're all out of books, man. We're all out of homework. Yeah, like, man. Like, we say so much that, oh...

Life is getting worse because of technology, this and that. And then we go straight and continue to feed ourselves it. But why? It's addicting, man. It's just addicting. That's where all the news is. That's for everything. That's why I don't understand when men's go on a hiatus, they're saying like, oh, I'm off of Instagram, I'm off of Twitter. Man, that's cap. Who's updating you? Because I know someone has to be updating you. That's all cap.

Because literally, you can do anything on your phone. You don't have to read books anymore. Exactly. Read it on your phone. All the information you need in the world is on your phone, man. Do you think right now there's going to be a trend of just nothingness? Like people want to just go ahead and do nothing because it's overstimulating? You know what's crazy? That actually happened to me. I remember there was one time when we were going to LA. Yeah. And I decided, yo, I'm just going to raw dog the flight. Oh, yeah. I remember that. I decided, yo, I'm not going to use my phone. I'm not even going to look at like the...

The entertainment. Like, you know how I had the map? I didn't even look at the map. Man, that's a long flight. Yeah, it was like six months. Five hours. So for five hours, I just stayed on the flight, looked straight at it. I didn't sleep either. I remember that too. Yeah, I remember that. I just looked forward and I just stayed there for five hours. Damn. And I'm not going to lie, that was probably the most at peace I felt in a long time. Word. It's because like, bro, all you can do is just have your thoughts. Yeah, but that's dangerous, no? Because what were you thinking of?

No, it's not dangerous. There's no way you just think of silence the whole time. No, no, no. I wasn't thinking about silence. I was thinking about just simple stuff. Simple things. Like, oh, like, I don't know. It would just be like simple, like really simple things. But back how you said it's dangerous to be in your own thoughts, but really it's dangerous to avoid them.

Bars? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's dangerous to avoid them because you live with them regardless. Yeah, that's true. They're there for a reason. You have to face it at some point. If you constantly just avoid them by going into here and putting your attention somewhere else and never really facing yourself, what's going to happen to you? You can never face yourself. Okay, I'm just thinking because you know that thing is like you should never look at yourself in the mirror for too long.

Yeah, I did it I did it for like a good like 40 minutes. Yo, I feel like if I did I'll start laughing bro. I'll be laughing No, I don't know What it was was me trying to like

See myself for who I am Whatever you do just don't ever do it on like shrooms, right? I haven't like I'm sober But I'm just saying like for those people that want to do this Don't do it if you're like under the influence of anything because it might get dark. Okay, but I

You see everything. You see your flaws, but you see what's good about you. You see everything for what is. Now, I feel like we're in a culture of we have to pretend that we don't have flaws, and we're not allowed to point out each other's flaws because of sensitivity and shit. And that's a problem. Because why?

then we'll never get better or we'll never be comfortable with it. Yeah, honestly, bro, I hate that mindset like so much. I like, oh, like, you know, everybody's perfect. Everyone like, you know, like you have no flaws. Like I feel like you have to really face it if you want to improve as a person. You have to. Like that's why I like always like look up to like my brother and like my family because like whenever I have a flaw, like they always point it out. Like they always point it out like quickly. And when they do that, I'm like, you know, yeah, you're right. Like maybe I should like, you know, start going to the gym. Maybe I should start working out, you know.

Yeah, yeah. And honestly, that's the hard truths are the ones that are most important because they can change your life for the better. 100%. Obviously, like some people will tell you bullshit and you have to have a good sense of when somebody has ill intent for you or love for you. You have to have a good sense of that. But overall, hearing something that is true is always, in my opinion, the best way to improve yourself. No, 100%. That's true. Always, bro.

You know what I heard though? So

Being a night owl and being an early bird is actually a thing that happened way, way back even in the beginning of civilization. Like Neanderthal era. They actually had certain people and it was dead ass the 10% of the population. So it's not in everybody's gene, but certain genes and certain people inherited it that you're supposed to be a night owl and you're supposed to be awake really, really late at night. Why? Check this out. Why?

So back in the day, you can imagine we have a campfire, we're all in the cave sleeping, and you're telling me nobody's gonna keep guard?

Somebody had to keep guard now and that was a very very small portion of the population because There's so many dangers. There's could be like saber-toothed tigers No, you never know like there were some creatures that could kill us or even other people that could kill us if someone he wasn't awake so the very very small portion of those people were

Yeah.

And bag it though. Why is that though? It's because we're awake at night. Yeah. Like you have to overthink bro. You have to overthink. You're stuck in your thoughts. Some of my best, my best ideas come from like the 4 a.m. like studio lock-ins. You know what I mean? When I'm just on my computer, oh, I'll think of a new design, 4 a.m. The best shit I've ever came up with. I don't know why though.

I feel like Batman when I'm, it's like 5 a.m., everybody's asleep. I can do my own thing. Like the world went to sleep, but I'm still awake. You know what I mean? It's like 5 a.m., you get a boost. You get a great boost. You get a great team. Oh, I think, yo, is that a social anxiety thing too? Because it's like in the morning and shit, like I really don't want to do shit. But at night, I want to do shit because there's no eyes on me. I know everybody's asleep.

yo you know what's crazy I might be a rude fan but for me I'm like the exact opposite cause I'm an early bird and for me like my take on it is like

Like to do stuff before other people get the opportunity I heard about this. Yeah, you're like do everything like 6 a.m. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like I want to like I want to get my day done first before everybody else like starts to get like their day I think I think I'm actually more of a early bird than I out, but I'm stuck in a night owl schedule Yeah, I go like that ass I think I am because I remember when I came back from the Philippines and I was waking up at like I was waking by 7:00 mm-hmm

Bro, I would do literally all my tasks and finish them by 11 o'clock. And then I had the whole fucking day to do whatever. It does feel good. It feels amazing. Because it feels like you have free time for the rest of the day. You can do whatever you want. Yes. Because you can imagine, let's say I switch that up and I woke up at 12.

And I did all my tasks. So seven to what? I finished at 11, eight, nine, 10, 11. That's four hours, right? I woke up at 12, four o'clock. Four o'clock's already midday. And it feels like, yo, it's already the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? The day's cooked, bro. But if you do that in 7 a.m.,

Bro, you have the whole day to call. So much freaking time for activities. There's so many activities you could do. And I feel like it's so weird, but vacations have been putting my sleep schedule in better places. Because on vacation, you're supposed to wake up early and explore the places, right? So whenever I'm in, like when I was in Banff, fam, I naturally woke up 9 a.m. because I knew I was on vacation. I knew I needed to do shit, right? Hawaii, remember? I don't think we ever, we set alarms, but we always woke up earlier.

But I'm like, yo, now that's put. And then when I'm back home, fam, yo, I'm going back to bed at 4 a.m., fam. I'm like, what's going on? You know why? It's a hard truth. Yeah. Say it, bro. I'm going to give the hard truth. Say it, bro. Say it. It's because it's your environment that makes you comfortable, right? So if you go home and in that space, you've done X, Y, and Z. X, Y, and Z activity. When you go back to that space, what are you going to do? The same thing, man. X, Y, and Z activity. X, Y, and Z activity.

Until you make a change in that setting, then you can make a change in yourself. But the thing is, it's so comfortable, so people want to keep doing it. That's true. It's like ripping off a bandit. It's going to feel like, oh, man, it feels weird to do this here. You know what I'm saying? But once you do it there, then it becomes realer. It becomes...

Expected yeah, then that's where the discipline comes from and you know it changes your whole life You know what what planes are doing now that they're gonna implement in 2025 well have you seen the the Ford the standing? They're gonna be putting you a 45 degree angle so you're gonna be like kind of like this that's not a cool is but like I feel like it's uncomfortable if you're like this for like four hours because your ass is like

You're getting put like down like the force is getting put down so much was like by the time you stand up You're like your butt will hurt. You know, I'm the other thing about yo when you're taking off and landing Oh

You know that UFO thing that goes like this? At the fair? That's what it's going to be. The UFO ride at the fair? That's exactly like it, fam. But I feel like because they're saying that they're trying to implement that so you can have more people on the plane. Because it's like this, right? So if you have seats like this, it's less space. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have more people there. So if you have it like this, you're actually like stacked up. I'm not going to lie. Yo, airplanes are already tight enough. That's already tight enough. They're already tight enough.

For standing seat, I'm not paying more than a hundred dollars. Oh, no, it's gonna be cheap. They said it's gonna really cheap It better be a hundred dollars. I'm not paying more. I know it's good It's good that they can have more people that can't afford plane tickets. Exactly. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. But I Can't I can't stand for 12 hours. Oh

You're technically not standing, though. You're sitting. No, I'm not standing, bro. Okay, boom. Yo, check this out. Check this out. What if, though? Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. What if, though, they put us in that type of shit, right? And they pack us up like sardines. We can even make it tighter if you want. Yeah, you can put a bunch of people. But while we're on the plane, they give us access to go somewhere else. What the fuck?

Your legs are still gonna be tired bro, they'll put you into a simulation Oh That's kind of sick I'm not experiencing something else while your body's there and that's pretty much what they said is gonna happen if we ever have to move planets Oh shit, we're gonna be living in a world. That's actually VR or actually like online somewhere a simulation while we travel like a

however thousands of light years away because obviously we're not going to be able to comprehend that mentally right

Think that VR like that big VR thing is just a tester because they're definitely just working on something that's very small like glasses That they're gonna put out in the next few years because there's no way the all-mans are gonna rock that big bulky thing Right that was just like oh, let's see if this sticks to the wall and then oh if it does they can kind of adjust Oh your theory fan, you know how they say on the market with the market the beast is oh, yeah, it's a chip, right? Oh

Yeah, but in the Bible, you know what it is? No, no, no. What is that? The mark of abuse is like... It's a number or it's a serial number or whatever, right? Yeah. And they say you need it to purchase things or you need it to... I guess...

You need it to keep continuing to live regular life, right? And it's going to be forced upon you. Wait, the doubt's in the Bible? It's in the Bible to pay for things and stuff like that, right? Now, check this out. They said it's going to be either on your hand or it's going to be on your forehead. Now, bag this. Why would it be on your forehead? And what would put something on our forehead? Imagine if we have a VR set.

That's stuck on your face all day long. You take it off, you know when you wake up from a nap? You have the mark on your face. - You have the mark right there. - You have the mark on your face! - That third eye comes in. - Imagine, or even something on your hand because it's like maybe you need this and a controller on your wrist or whatever and it just like leaks over. - No, 'cause in VR you're controlling shit with your hands.

Oh, that's kind of crazy. Wait, what if that's what it is? Like, it's the red mark. It is, and you're controlling shit with your hands. Yeah, like, you know when you wear a hat for too long and you take off the hat and there's a line? Damn, that could be it, bro. That's insane. The fact that they said that in the Bible is crazy to me. Everything, yeah. Everything's already been said and then now it's just coming to life still. I know. There's so many things that you don't really see until you take it into that perspective, right? And a lot of the times...

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- Did you guys see the live action Lilo and Stitch yet or no? - No, I haven't seen it yet. Is it good? - Trash. - I'm not gonna lie, that show is trash. - But it's the same story, no? - It's not. - It's reiterated. - They changed the story. - They can't change the story. - Yo, okay, I won't spoil it, obviously, but you know like how- - No, we know it's Lilo and Stitch. - Yeah, no, but in the actual live- - They changed the plot? - Fam, you know that big shark guy? The big shark villain? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Took him out completely. - No! - That's not Lilo and Stitch. - Yo, that's not Lilo and Stitch.

That's a lilo. You know when Stitch read the ugly duckling book? Because that's the actual message of the story. Fam, they didn't have that. Damn. You know how the two alien guys were in costumes the whole time? Yeah. They made them humans. Nah.

for the whole movie for like half the movie that's a violation and you know how they say ohana means family this is why I got pissed why what'd they do ohana means family right yeah fam they kept saying that in the movie and then they gave lilo to the foster people wait what at the end fam because the nani the sister that was looking out for her had to go to school so she's like oh uh

Just leave me. Just go follow your dreams. And they left. What? That's our hypocrisy, bro. That's our hypocrisy. That's the whole point of the movie. That's the whole point

See, this is why I have a problem with these live actions, bro. There's too many live actions coming out and they be switching everything, bro. They be switching everything. You know the agenda behind that, man? What? They're trying to say, forget your family. Go to capitalism. You're crazy. Go ride for your sister. Go ride for your sister. And there was a very obvious propaganda they were pushing, too. They were pushing for people to join the military in that movie. Really? You know why? Because last scene when...

I think Lilo says, "Oh Nani, you're so smart. You should join the Marines." It was a regular ass line. - I didn't look at the camera. - No, no, close, close. - That had nothing to do with the plot. - It had the biggest pause right after. So like the audience can soak in what she just said.

Broke the fourth wall. No, real shit. And then, like, the Lola was like, oh, it's actually Marine Biologist Lilo. It's not the Marines. But fam, she just said a whole tagline. She said, join the Marines. Mm-hmm.

They definitely paid for that message to be in that 100% they pay for that was your after if I look at the credits and I see Marie They're caught they got in 4k I found out the Hawaii has like 11 military bases and most of the people are joined from the Hawaii is our Marines Oh, really? Yeah, so that's why I like that's actually yeah Are they trying to like push that agenda in the Hawaiian? Yo, I mean, it's so crazy collect down in like in Toronto. Oh

Bro, there was no, like, advertisement for, like, people that joined the army. Yeah, it's not really like that. Like, bro, I feel like it's, like, mostly, like, American thing, bro. Yeah, it is. It is. Because Canada, we don't really... Yo, I see some things where, like, they're coming to the high schools and they're, like...

Advertising for it at the high schools like they'll have like a whole booth. I like the fair or something. Oh Yeah, we don't have those never see that down here. Yeah, we don't ever see that down there Yo, we loan stitch as a whole, you know, that was made for what that was made because Disney bought so many resorts in Hawaii and they needed a way to market bring people over to Hawaii Oh, they needed to up the consumerism and all the tourism in Hawaii. So they made that movie

Did you know that? No, I didn't know that. That's some W marketing. From then, all these other studios decided to invest. Yo, think about it. Disney Resorts, fam. They tied Trader Joe's

travel and entertainment from the start. They knew, oh, if we make a movie about this place, people will travel there. And they'll pick a place that doesn't have a lot of, I guess, resorts built or anything going on yet. Boom, let's build it up. And then they drop the movie.

And then drop the movie. You know what I'm saying? Yo, that's some smart marketing, bro. That's how they do it. I think because you know how Hawaii had that whole controversial shit like anti-tourism? Yeah, yeah. And I feel like they're opening up now. I think maybe a part of it could have been like that why they dropped that live action. Yeah, because yo, the movie was beautiful. I think it showed like scenes randomly of Hawaii. And I'm like, yo, I actually miss Hawaii. I want to go back. So maybe since it's opening up to tourism again, maybe this was just a whole like, let's just get this one out. Like...

Yo, I have a really weird feeling that something's going on because tourism specifically is being promoted everywhere. Oh, I was going to say it's the opposite. Now check this out.

First example. Exhibit A. Aisho Speed, fam. Oh, Japan. Oh, yeah. He's been going everywhere. Everywhere. But did you bag? He's getting paid by the countries to promote the places he's going to. Did you know the tourism departments of these countries are paying him

So that he can promote it. That's so smart, fam. That's why he only went to specific countries, fam. Because he's getting the bag for it. If you think about it, it's like, why would speed be in Mongolia? Like, not a lot of people know where that is. And, like, that's kind of random. That's true. So, like, no, I agree with you. They have to be paying it. So, it's the countries that need to up their tourism. They're looking to influencers to say, okay, we'll pay you this, this, this. Come here and make your content. Do your videos, whatever. Boom. And they run away with a bag, bro.

Yeah. It's funny because they do the same thing in St. Lucia as well. Because, like, basically, like, they were building, like, this new, like, this new hotel and, like, this new resort down there. Yeah. But they're trying to do, like, the same thing with Speed. Like, they're trying to, like... Get somebody over there. Yeah, they're getting a whole bunch of influencers, like, coming to the country. Them call us down. And, bro, it's actually... I know, bro. It's actually been working because, like, the last, like, couple years, bro, I've been seeing, like, a whole bunch of, like, celebrities going down to St. Lucia. Like, I think Jake Paul got married there. Wow. Oh, bro.

I didn't know that. Bro, it's just like a whole bunch of people just coming down. See, and it's quiet like that too. It's quiet. You think it's just a post for vacation. Nah, bro. They go there because they're getting paid to go there, fam. Oh.

It's crazy. But I feel like because I've been reading shit and it's like Spain specifically has been the most anti-tourism. Like, yo, if you go to Spain right now, they'll start spraying you with water guns if they know you're a tourist. Oh, I've seen that. But that's the public. It's not the country itself. Because the country themselves will thrive on tourism. No, no, no. Because I've also seen governments in Spain told Airbnb to take down

a bunch of listings. Oh, really? Yeah. And it's like 100K listings because the houses in Spain are going up. The people are cheesed because now it's all Airbnbs.

Okay, maybe certain countries don't want tourism but maybe Asia they fuck with it. I think Japan, they don't really want tourism as much as before. Because bro, for some reason, people be disrespecting Japan so much when they go there. I saw this one guy, this guy from New York, he's doing backflips on the train in Japan.

- Oh my god. - He's like doing like a donkey and all that stuff. - Oh, I think I have seen that. - You saw that too, you saw that too. And like, you know, like Japanese trains, like they're very, they're very quiet, they're very normal. And it's like, they're seeing like all these people like doing this and all of this increasing. - And there's an etiquette you're supposed to follow, like an etiquette. - Yeah, exactly.

And after now, they don't really want tourists back there. They don't really want tourists in Japan. Yo, so you know how Donald Trump wants to make Canada the 51st state? Yeah, yeah. I have a theory behind it. Oh, shit. It's crazy. Wait, wait, watch out. Let's hear it, let's hear it. He's been banning shit said about him.

Donald Trump? Yeah, yeah. Like all the bad media about him, he's been like banning it. Oh, he's been like getting rid of it? No, but this is like really smart though. Wait, should I say it or no? No, say it, say it, say it. It's actually Matt Itchison. So shout out Romar. He's the one that told me it. I think my voice is on some cred. It's crazy, it's crazy. Check this out.

Now, ah, this gets political though. You're just a messenger. I'm going to leave parts out. I'm going to leave parts out. But just know if, let's say there's a whole bunch of people that do would want that, right? To leave a statement that's so harsh and so like in your face, that's huge. It'll get your attention, one.

But also, it'll entertain an idea and make it easier for you to be susceptible for something smaller of. You get what I'm saying here? If I go...

yo, Gavin, I need you to go downtown, get all this and that and that. Please, bro, you need to do this. And I hit you back like later and I go, yo, actually, you don't have to do that. Just go to the mailbox and get this. You'll be easier to go to the mailbox and not go downtown and do all this other stuff, right? Because I gave such a big one to piss you off. And I say, okay, all you have to do is this.

But if I started with, yo, go to the mailbox. No one's going to follow that. You don't even want to do that. Yeah. But I start with the bad one. Yeah, sure. I'll do that light one. That's some crazy tech. No, no. That is some manipulation tactics, man. Manipulation tactics. Check this out. Ready? I'm going to leave out details because I'm not political like that. It's calm. That's some crazy tech. Yeah. Now, that statement that he made, it gets people thinking like, oh, some people would be down. Some people wouldn't.

now check this out what if he plans to make it easier for canadians to go there and and move and and switch it's very easy to switch over and become a american you know yeah get their visa whatever now check this out the people that will move there usually are like business owners people with like you know influence but yeah because it makes sense yeah because they're the ones that

would benefit from that from that from that style right yeah and usually it's those people that are very like you know they have a lot of businesses yeah because donald trump's like very business minded businessman so what happens all these people let's say a huge amount of people go to this country what happens to the net worth of that country increases yeah hella

You know what I'm saying? So that big statement was just like a... It's like a facade. Yeah, but it still made people think, though. It made people think. But low-key, that's smart, bro. That's why it's smart. That's so smart. That's why it's a theory. Honestly, like, a lot of people that want to leave Canada right now are the people that, like, that have it, bro. Like, that have it going. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- Yeah. - And that's the people that they want. That's smart. - Think about it! - If that's true, then that's some smart stuff, bro. - That's what I'm saying. - I remember like he even had me thinking, it's like, "They don't even wanna live here too, bro."

No, but at least it caused like, you know, it caused conversation. Yeah. That's the main thing. It causes conversation and it makes you, because it's such a big statement and it's the other one that's still like, you know, valid. Because let's say he opens the borders to Canadians to move there. Certain Canadians will move there. Boom. And then all the benefits go to him. You know what I'm saying? And everything that he didn't want stays. Oh shit, that's smart.

I might have to start using that technique. I might start using it. Listen, I'm going to start off with the craziest statement of all time, bro. Start with hot takes. Like, terrible. Like, yo, I need somebody to do something for me. I'm going to give them, like, a rigmarole of shit to do. So that shit looks horrible now. Yo, Gavin, I need $10,000 right now, bro. But then, for $500, and then I'll actually give it to you? And I'll be like, nah, I just want you to give me a glass of water. Yeah, sure, I can do that. I can do that, of course.

Yeah, sure. I can do that. I'll do that instead. You know, one of my friends, when we were going to Hawaii with the whole, like, the Trump thing and stuff that was going around, his parents were scared that he had any Trump propaganda on his phone that they were going to stop. I heard about this.

Who brought that to all the Filipino group chats, bro? That's fake. I don't know, fam. That's insane. We went to the Philippines on Facebook, bro. But I'm going to Buffalo soon, and I hate crossing the border, right? Because they press at the border, right? Hall of Fame press. Oh, my God. Wait, where is this? Buffalo. Buffalo. So I have to go to Niagara Falls and then cross to Buffalo, right? Oh, okay. But, fam, like, last time, remember we were there at New York? I don't know if I told the story, but the guy asked me, and I was in the front seat, and Carlos was right next to me. And I'm usually not scared because I'm like, oh, I just let Carlos do the talking.

But I'm obviously the driver, so I gotta talk, right? So he's like, where are you going? I'm like, New York. And he's like, where in New York? I'm like, New York. We were there, going back and forth, just saying New York where? New York where? For like 10 minutes. And then Carlos finally said, New York City. Oh, okay. Getting impressed. Whenever we go to the airport, Carlos always does a talkie. Always does a talkie. Because I know if I say something, I'm gonna mess up.

I'm gonna see some next thing, bro. I'm gonna see some next thing. Oh my gosh, man. Yo, it's so scary. I'm not gonna lie. It's not that serious, bro. It isn't, but it's like, fuck. It's like, you know that thing where it's like, you feel like you're doing something wrong even though you're totally in the clear? Yo, but I'm gonna tell you something, though. Because I used to feel that all the time.

Like, I used to feel like that, like, growing up and doing that. But what I did is I just fucking did it. So then I mess up. I said so much embarrassing shit to people in public. So that, I don't feel it anymore. You know what I mean? Like, you got to get it out of your system. You got to get it out of your system. Like, you got to go up to all these people. Let's say, for example, dating. And you want to go, like, talk to strangers in public.

You gotta go embarrass yourself. Yeah, you have to take L's. Because you're gonna be so scared of the mystery of what being rejected feels like. Yeah, yeah. And then when you finally get it, you'll realize fam, it wasn't even that crazy. Shout

Shout out my bro on Australia. He does this thing. He's like, every day he does a rejection therapy thing. And then one of the craziest ones was like, he went into like some neighbor's, some random person's backyard and started playing soccer. He's like, oh, can I kick around a soccer ball with you? And then the person's like, yeah, why not? And then boom, every day. I think he's in like day 200. But at that point now,

He shouldn't have no fear. Yeah, like he's not afraid of anything. He's not afraid of anything no more. Yeah, it's kind of off topic, but bro, I've seen this one guy from Australia. And like he was doing like this challenge. He's like, yo, he's like, every day I'm going to fight someone in public until I get knocked out. Oh, I've seen that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He saw that. Yeah, I saw that. And one of them, he was fighting in front of like the Sydney opera house. Yeah, I've seen that. And he mopped the guy, bro. He mopped him.

The guy I think there's another there's a black guy he's like I'm looking for fades I'm looking for yeah, and he's an Egypt fam like during the like the very dangerous parts He's like with his camera like he has that like mini camera. Yeah, yo you want to fade and obviously they don't know They don't know what it is. Yeah, but he's just playing in their face like yeah I know you want to fade like you called me about this. Oh my god Dangerous oh my god, and they give the Clippers. Oh

- Oh, yeah, I got a feed right now. - That's not gonna fade, you wanna fade? - It's crazy. - Stop, you're fighting someone in public until you get knocked out every day, it's crazy, man. - Oh, they tried, oh, I don't know if you've seen the Liverpool FC incident recently. - What happened? - No, what happened? - So it was like a Raptors parade, but actually gone wrong. - Oh, shh. - So Liverpool just became champions, right? - Yeah, yeah. - And like, obviously, like, they're gonna throw a parade in their hometown, right? So the buses go through, there's a bunch of people there.

But then there's like one van, right? And that like, I think it made it on its way of the roots. And I don't think it was supposed to be there. But all the people started going up to that guy's car. And like, I don't know what happened next, right? But all you see the van starts gassing it, right? It starts running over everyone in the parade, fam.

47 people were injured and a lot of them were kids. That's so messed up. Just trying to be at a parade. Nobody died? No, I don't know if anybody died, but a lot of people were in like the, what do you call it? Fatal critical condition. Yeah, ICU shit, fam. Wait, but like what made him want to do that? No, because I think there was so much people crowding around his car and he just wanted to get out. But I don't know what, you could just honk, right? But in his mind, he's like, I'm going to just push the gas, see if people move.

Fam, you see in the video, they're getting run over, bro. That's messed up, bro. Messed up. Nah.

That's kind of... And there's always that one guy that ruins the parade. Like, that guy in the Raptors parade who wanted to shoot something. You know what I mean? Yo, Dios... Yo, I seen that guy too, bro. What? Yo, I didn't tell you the story. No. You were nearby, right? I was nearby. It was either him or somebody else. But I remember I was at the Raptors parade. Like, I was just having fun. Yeah. And this guy, he drops his strap right in front of me. No, you're lying. That's crazy. Bro, the strap...

All I hear is metal. All I hear is ting, ting, ting, ting. Oh, you're lying. But the good thing is that when that happened, there was two officers right in front of me. And as soon as they saw that, bro, arrested him so quick. Wow. But I think that that guy was definitely linked to the other guy that did like, you know. He probably got like a homie or something. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Damn, that's crazy. That's actually crazy. Yo, one of the worst ones recently was the Vancouver one, bro.

Oh, yeah. The Filipino one. Oh, RIP, man. Yeah, fam. People actually died in that one. Yeah, yeah. People actually died in that one. It's crazy. Yeah. For the Lapo Lapo Fest. That's sad, man. And even before that, there was one in Toronto. Do you remember the... The van attack? Yeah, the van attack. I don't know about that one. We had one in Toronto, the van attack. Like, they started running people over? Yeah, fam. What the fuck? People died because of that. Yeah, it was messed up. I think it was on Bay Street or something. Yeah. But it was because he was part of, like, the incel community. Oh, my God.

Yeah. You know, there was... The hate, the women haters. Yeah. It's messed up, bro. There was another guy who was there at the Liverpool, like, game. I mean, at the Liverpool parade. Yeah, parade. And then he put his camera up. This is before it happened, right? He's talking to the camera and this is why it went viral. He's like, yo, I have a really bad feeling in my gut that something's about to go down. Wow. And I seen snipers on the roof. All my friends, I told them, get out of there, right? And this is before. So he actually called it. Mm-hmm.

But like that gut feeling that you have sometimes is like... You have to trust it, bro. You have to trust your gut feeling. It's crazy how many times my gut really never fails, bro. And you always get mad when you don't. When I don't. Because I always see it. I always see it. And then some guy will say something that disrupts the thought. And then... Like the no back frame of it.

Yo, Josh, tell that story, bro. I was the one who disrupted the thought. Which one? Remember we were at the Noah Beck, like, QB and me party? And Carlos wanted to talk to, like, one of the main characters and stuff like that. But then he's like, yo, I'm just going. And then we're like, nah. I know! Yo, it's you guys, man. It'd be these guys, bro. It's always these guys.

We were at the main event of the movie and we didn't even get to talk to the main We were probably like we're so close so I was gonna wait right like bro, why can't and you know, it's a crazy thing What bro, when are we ever gonna see them again?

But when are we ever going to see them again? IK Cheese is so bad, bro. That was his only chance. IK Cheese is so bad. I've never seen Noah Patrick get a fan.

Bro, but like, see, that's a great example of you have to trust yourself, bro. Fuck everybody else, even if it's your homies, trust yourself. No, 100%. But I don't know why you didn't go. Yeah, you didn't go. I didn't have no point of... Yeah, you say that now. Yeah, you say that now. I don't know why you didn't. Obviously. Obviously, because it's over. But in the moment, fuck, man.

I don't want to hear it because that's not what y'all are saying before. I would have went, bro. I don't want to hear what y'all are saying before. WRAID BAY. WRAID BAY. Holy fuck.

Go man Carlos man, you do you usually go I do go The fact that you were double-throwing like yeah, and you had Andre with you Andre's probably like the most Come on, I don't want to hear if that was not in our in our like missions, you know, I mean Already completed my I already got to that guy from Pericane W my goodness

I wanna talk about little booboos. - Yeah. - What happened? - What happened with little booboos? - Oh, okay, check this out. - They're demonic, right?

- Oh, that too. - Yeah, yeah, but the boo-boos are going crazy right now, right? Now, there's this specific person that was interviewed recently and he collects Pop Mart figures, like a whole bunch. He has so many. Now, he told this story and this is in the interview video where he had like, I think 12 on his desk and he went to bed. Now, this person, he has a sixth sense.

Wait, the guy like sleeping and his labubas are on the counter. Yeah, you had certain Pop Mart figures. Okay, okay. Because Pop Mart owns labubu. Now, he said, because he has a sense.

After a while, like it didn't happen right away, but slowly and slowly, he would feel a presence of somebody watching him, right? And the only thing that's there are the figures. And obviously at first he didn't like, you know, he didn't look too much into it. But it became to a point where he really felt a presence. So he walked over to it and he looks at it and he sees, he feels the spirit there and not one person.

but in four different figures. Now, what he said was four of them might have had the spirit and then the other 16 didn't or the other how many other he had didn't. So what he did, because he said you can't just take it and throw it out. You can't do that because they'll get offended. Yeah, the spirit will get offended if you just throw it away. So what you have to do is you have to bring it. And he said that the figures...

Literally any figure can be possessed by a spirit as long as it has two eyes, a mouth, and it's shaped as if it could be alive. Yeah, yeah. Those are little boo-boos, fam. And a spirit could go into it. And it's literally any of these figures that just kind of look, you know? Yo, Annabelle is a Raggedy Ann doll.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it could be anything. It could be a pop figure, fam. It could be, like, a teddy bear. Anything. Now, what he did, he brought it to a psychic, a certain spiritual medium, and took away all of the spirits. And what he said was, since then, took all those figures away. Because he said, if I leave it there long enough, although they didn't infect the other ones...

It could be a matter of time because they're susceptible to being possessed in that area. And he said the only way to avoid it is there's a certain like feng shui thing in Asia. Because this guy's from Asia. There's a certain like feng shui thing that you have to put in the same room if you have a whole bunch of these figures. Now, if you go around in certain areas and you see these stores with a whole bunch of figures, you might see that little like feng shui trinket. Wow.

Word. That keeps away the demons. Yeah. That's sick. I even know that was a thing. Because you know how in Dandodon they have like that thing, the seal? Yeah, yeah. They have like a seal. Yeah, it stops like spirits and demons from walking into the store or walking into your home. Mm-hmm.

you might find one of those around. - Because I know in some stores in Asia that sell a whole bunch of old stuff, they usually have those. - Yeah, they have those. Especially in Japan. It's crazy. - Imagine antique shopping in Japan. You're just calling for those. - I don't even like antique shopping. Everything I touch is haunting. - Yeah, exactly. - Real shit. - Yo, is there any anime that you thought, I guess, if it reminded you of real life hauntings?

Or it was inspired by, like, real stories? Yo, there actually is, man. There's one from Bleach, actually. Bleach? Actually, yo, honestly, like, there's a couple animes that...

- There are stories of, but there is this one from Bleach. So they're just guy, his name is like Elohim, he's from like New Zealand. So basically like he was like a normal Bleach fan. Like he would watch Bleach all the time. And you know sometimes like when you really love a show that you would act as a character. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But for him, it was a little different because he had like some mental issues to him.

And you know, like one day, like, you know, he was acting as a character and like nobody paid mind because people just thought like, you know, like- - Cosplaying? - Yeah, you know, he just being him. - Okay, okay. - But one day he took it too far and he was actually like being as a character. So like he would like say like the speech lines and all that stuff. - Okay. - So in his head, he became that person? - So yeah, in his head, he actually became the character.

I still feel like that's normal though. Yeah, yeah. It is normal. So one day he was like in his apartment complex and like this old guy, he was like walking down and then the guy, Elohim, he stared at him and he started saying like speeches from the character. Holy shit. And he went and he like stabbed him 60 times. Holy shit. And while he was saying that, like he was saying it in full Japanese, like the whole speech. Yo, that's crazy. The whole building speech.

In Japanese. You're lying. While he's doing it. That's crazy. So he thought he was Ichigo. Yeah, he literally thought he was Ichigo. What the fuck? See, that's why it's like... You anime heads, man. I know. No, because some people take it so serious. Yeah. People take it too far a lot of the times. Because there's another one.

There's this guy. I think his name is like hirafumi another japanese guy Yeah, but basically like back in like 2014 and like earlier like there's anime called kuroko no basket It's like this huge basketball anime. Yeah, the basketball anime like this is it's one of the biggest sports anime of all time So he was obsessed with that anime, you know, just like the other guy. Yeah, but his obsession he again He took it to another level. What do you do because for him?

he was so obsessed with the anime and he was so jealous of the creator because the creator created something that was so amazing yeah so you know to like combat his obsession he started to do like these crimes against the creator what the wait how did he find out where he was like he actually did research yeah yeah so so basically what he would do is like any place that had the kuroko no basket manga

He would like disrupt the events like like he would like mess up their place So if you're at an anime convention and there's like a Kuroko booth like he would like tear down the booth Wow, that's hater D1. He would do this for like two years and he didn't get caught He didn't get caught. So he took it to like a next level because he found out where the creators like old high school was Oh, that's crazy. GG's GG's and what he did is that he got this glass jar and he filled it with toxic got like toxic glass Oh

The toxic gas. Yeah. And he sent it to the high school. What? And then he also sent a letter. And in the letter, there was like this weird white substance in it. Yeah. And there was like a few letters in it. Like there's only three words on the letter. And on the letter, it just said, I hate Fujimaki. And Fujimaki is like the guy who did it.

- Oh, shit. - Wait, wait, was the substance like poison? - I think so, bro. - You said white substance? - Yeah, it was like white. It was like, I don't know what type of thing it is. - Is it sticky? - No, no, no. - Actually, no, it was a white powder. - Oh, that's like- - He sent that and like a glass of like toxic gas.

He sent that to his, like, the high school. That's like the Unabomber type thing. Like, the letters that could have... No, no, there's another case. I think they sent letters with a certain poison that could kill you. Yeah.

Yeah, but like basically like he was doing this over two years and then he like he finally got caught Why is every Japanese case like they always got a they always got to do it like a very dramatic like they got to write a letter They got to send the letter Because I've done a lot of Japanese cases and a lot of them have been like a letter sent to the guy Like not even killing him, but it's like mentally like it's the what's going on. I think it's a thrill Yeah, it's a thrill of like

- Talking with someone. - No, but I think it's the culture too. 'Cause I feel like, look, North America, if you have beef, straight up, boom. - Straight up, boom, and it's done. - But in Asia, there's a lot more drama. There's a lot more storyline. There's a lot more attached to it. And then, look, even look at Europe. I feel like the beefs in Europe, it's very romantic beefs.

You know what I'm saying? Is that only because like the, what do you call this? The propaganda, like the movies in Japan? I think it's straight up. It just ties back to ancestry. Look at this. Yo, where was Romeo and Juliet based in? That's Rome, right? Italy, bro. Yeah, Romeo and Juliet, right? Think about it. Tragic lovers.

Look at our common stories about beefs in America or in Canada. Westerns, you know what I'm saying? It's like straight up action. Hands, right? The cowboys, they'll shoot each other. Yeah. And then Asia, think about it. The beefs for what? Yo, that in Japan lore, it was samurai. It was very honor. Fight for honor. Honor your family. You know what I'm saying? I'd rather die than dishonor my family, right? Yeah.

So I think that's why it is. It's very much just a culture thing. Okay, yeah. Makes sense. Because out here, it's like beef? Yeah. Show off. You show up, you fight. Actually, let me not even say that. Nowadays, beefs is... On the internet? Internet. Beefs is, I'm going to hate the person, but I'm going to not let them know. Yeah. That's so funny. That's crazy, bro. That's a pussy, bro. It's going to be a hater, bro. My goodness. At least say it.

If I were in any type of beef, I probably would have been in an Asian beef to be honest cuz it's like way more dramatic They really think it through. Oh yeah, they think it through. 100% And it's like, listen, it's like I'm not gonna touch you, but I'm still gonna mess you up. Yeah, exactly. Psychological warfare. I'm not gonna touch you, but I'm gonna do something to you. Yo, like Oldboy, for example. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Greatest revenge ever, fam. Oldboy.

- It's the worst revenge ever. An old boy, he was beefing with someone so bad that he trapped him into a hotel room for years on years on years. - That's crazy. - And then released him and then said, "You're gonna figure out why I released you."

So you're sent on a mission. You're sent that message after you just got out of prison, fam. That's crazy. Imagine giving him a riddle. I hate that. I hate riddles. The question isn't why I trapped you in there. The question is, why did I release you? Yeah, yeah.

If I ask you a question you but you'll give me a something and

for me to figure it out, you know what I mean? Nah bro, I'm always straight up. - He'll never give you straight answers. - I get straight answers. - No, no. - I've been living with you for too long. - Nah, I get straight answers. - I'm trying to fix the dishwasher, fam. - Maybe it's obvious to me. - Oh, maybe you have to get this to get this to get that. - It makes sense to me. - But he always has the answer himself, he'll never tell you. But when he takes it over, he does it, you know what I mean?

Nah, it's just a translation thing. I guess. Because I feel like the answer in my head, if I try to explain it to you in the way I understand it, it wouldn't make sense. So I have to say it in a different way for you guys. Because if I say it like the way I say it, you'll be confused. Like, what are you...

I've done that a few times and you guys like look at me like yeah, okay. Let me just say it a different way Yeah, niggas I do riddles man I remember so this is with um our old friend. Yeah, so me and Carlos were waiting for someone right?

And we asked him where I think Josh was there. Wait, what? Josh, you were there too. And we asked, where are you? And instead of saying the location, he's giving us pictures of red. You remember that?

You were texting our friend and he's giving us pictures of random buildings Where are you? Okay, we're at the Raptors parade I

I asked him, yo, where are you? Yo, he took a picture of the crowd and said, I'm here. The crowd's everywhere, what do you mean I'm here, bro? And then he took a picture of a truck and said, I'm here. Yo, just share the location, bro. Share the location, bro. Ooh, riddle niggas, bro. Just tell me the answer, bro. Just tell me the answer. That's like when people, they ask me, like, yo, what are you doing today?

Bro, tell me what you want me to do, bro. No facts, yeah. Oh my God, whenever RJ texted me, this is my biggest pet peeve. It's always just a yo first. And like, we live together. Like, I already know you can say that whole thing that you wanted to say in one paragraph. He says, yo, waits for me to reply. Then he asks. Bro, just text me the whole thing. Maybe I don't want to reply to you. You know what I mean? No, but that's smart though.

What he's doing is smart because you actually have to reply. Because I'll be texting you shit that's already important and you don't even reply. You know what I'm saying? Because I gave you the whole piece of the pie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gave you the whole piece of the pie and you didn't even care. But if I said, yo, it could be anything. That's true. That's another mind game. Say the big thing. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's

The trick is when you keep it a mystery, what happens is the first thing that goes to your head is an answer that would be willing for you to go and do it. That's true. You know what I'm saying? I mean, that's true. Because you know how they say when you read a book compared to watching the movie about the same story, the book is always better because your mind made up exactly what you want to see. No, that's true. The movie played you someone else's vision. Yeah.

Now in the text, it's the same way. And this is dark. I've been giving dark game at the end of podcasts lately. But you know what's crazy? Because I've been talking to a lot of supporters and stuff like that. The real ones, they're like, yo, you guys actually talk about real stuff at the end. But it's like, you know like the casual watchers, they're like, oh no, you guys don't talk about real stuff. Bro, go to 50 minutes. Go exactly to 50 minutes

That's when you start. That's when you start. They don't know about that. It's like jumpers at night. You know how in MTV at night, they would switch it and there would be like bare, bare like just explicit stuff? Like I don't swim in it. I don't get dark. It's just... Jumpers at night, if you make it to 50 minutes, it's a whole dark shit. Jumpers at night. Yo. Yo. I'm telling you. But yeah, so what happens is like if I text you the yo,

You can interpret that in so many different ways. It can be anything. Now when you're texting a shorty, you do the same thing. Yeah. Because she can interpret it different ways too. And if you're trying to, you know. All right.

You can kind of play with their vision. Which is messed up. Don't do that for fun. Imagine all you, like, say us three, we had, like, we all knew this and we all, like, used it for, like, we knew to fuck around with people. That would be so, like, funny. I'm not gonna lie. The thing is, though, I feel because I learned this stuff, I don't want to fuck with people. It's like the tell thing that you and Josh have is like, oh, if you're on that...

Same if you guys all have the same knowledge and you guys are so aligned with and you guys are in a group in public and you guys like you can turn it on whenever just to troll people. Yeah, that's a scary team chemistry. Oh, we know exactly when we can fuck.

with people because we know this it's insane yeah me and you know that game of code names oh it's like oh this was crazy yo i love that game i'm not gonna lie so in code names it gives you like it was a code names picture one though yeah yeah okay so it was six pictures and then you have to match it to one theme there's like so many cards right yeah if you can get as many cards as you can yeah but

Have to make him pick specific cards if he picks the wrong one. Yeah, then we lose. Yeah now I think this was like the final final blow. Yeah, I said one word to Josh and he was able to pick six car I don't know how I did it Six cards without picking the wrong ones. Oh my god. No how awful one word one word one word I just got it. Yeah, I get it because that's really good. Yeah

That's real communication. When you said the word, I didn't even know what the word meant. I just knew what the thing was. I'm like this, this, this, and this, this. Yeah. And it's crazy because I'm sure even if I made a word that was a fake word and it just gave the vibe of everything, you would have got me too. That's what happened to me. But it happened against me. My cousin said a word and that word used the first letter of every word so they were able to pick it off.

So they said a random word, but then he was like, oh wait, you're just describing the first letters. Fem, how do you get that if you're not like brother brothers? It has to be like clicking in. That's crazy. It's crazy. And I think

Yo, it's almost like a hidden language thing too. It is. It's almost like you can make your own language with people and not even realize it. Yo, me and Josh, this one probably never come out. Yeah, yeah. We did a whole podcast using a Cardi voice. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. No English. No English. Yeah, yeah, yo. And it was like, what, like an hour long? Yeah. We were making noises. Yeah, it was like an hour long. But the crazy thing is like I knew what you were talking about the entire time. Yeah, we understood each other. That's what's crazy. That's my.

Yeah, we're having a problem.

a proper conversation. Like an actual conversation. That I was invested in. It was a good convo. I was invested in it though. That might have been one of the best convos we ever had though. Just speaking in Cardinese. And it was just like mumbles too. Yo, it's straight up. It was mumbles but we understood what we were saying. For a whole hour. It's so crazy. I was actually getting locked in. I was actually getting interested in the story. Yeah, fam. Like the people will never understand what that means though. Do you have a clip of it? Do you still have it saved? I do have it saved. Somewhere, somewhere. Yeah, fam. I might release it one day just as a joke. As like a meme. Yo, I'm telling you guys. It's them going like, what the?

And he would respond in a tone where it's like, oh yeah, this is this, this is that. But we were like understanding, bro. It's crazy. But I think that's it too. Like it's tone, right? And it's the things that you say. That's why maybe like the mumble rap thing was so big because it spoke to people just because of the tone of the words. I'm going to tie everything together. I'm going to tie everything back together. Ready?

So remember what we were saying? It's about like, it's like. Listen, since the book is better than the movie, your brain creates what's better in your head. If I'm just giving the energy rather than the context, in your head you're making it what you want to hear. Yes. So that's why books are better. And that could be the best story to you. It could be the best story to you.

So maybe I was having a whole story in my head that Josh was telling me because I was making it myself because there was no context. Yeah, fam. And now back this. When people say it's not about what you say, it's about how you say it. When you keep your dialogue very, I don't know, open to interpretation.

Those are usually the most interesting stories or interesting conversations because it's so open and you can make the story yourself. You can put together the pieces yourself where I didn't give you, it was exactly like this. That's too boring. I want the mystery. And that's what gets people attracted to you as well. When you're too open or you're too like, I don't know, an open book that

in a way, it's predictable. Because there's good open books and then there's predictable books. I believe a good open book is like, for example, a comic book. There's so much to look at. There's too much to look at where you could even be overwhelmed. You could stare at one page and be intrigued for hours looking at one page because there's so much. But then there's open book

That could just be one word, one sentence. That type of open book is what? Shallow. Now, if you think about it, we can do that just in the way we carry ourselves. If you keep yourself a mystery in certain ways, you're going to intrigue someone to, I want to figure out what he's about.

that's actually so true that's another dark it is kind of it is a little bit because honestly like i was like sometimes like you know like the girls that have like the most mystery to them like those are usually like the most like they're the most interesting and attractive yeah and then you could you could take different approaches because there's no wrong approach there's a lot of i think there's like damn i i hate giving this game now say it say it man it's free that's why they saw that's what i'm saying i think there's like seven archetypes of a male i don't want to give this away

I don't want to give it away. Okay, you want to give away all seven. Say like one or two. But there's like, I think there's seven, but there's three types that work really, really well, especially in seduction. Say one.

Can't I can't I can't keeping on lock people are gonna search it up They don't know the exact one on top of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I will find that No, but probably eight now Two more just off the podcast

But what will happen is, what will happen is, I don't even remember what I'm talking about. But what will happen is, there's ways to get, you know how there's a race? What are we talking about? I don't know.

I'm explaining. Give it some time, fam. Give it some time. You know how there's a race to get somewhere? Let's say success. You can label it as success. There's so many different ways to be considered successful. Let's say you want to, I don't know, get a lot of money. Boom, that's your goal. There's like 100 billion ways to do that. Now, there's specific ones that give the best like

I guess success path or the easiest that a lot of people do and you can call it like a method and that trait comes natural in certain people and depending on how natural you are in it you should maneuver your way to becoming more like that archetype

If you want to use seduction and shit like that. Yo, what are these archetypes? It's crazy. It's really crazy. I'm actually going to search it up. You know, like some people, I'll give you an example. Like some people, they're a natural bad boy. Like a smooth talker? Yeah. And then some people are a natural, let's say, friendly person. Like a lovable person. Both are very attractive. Both, you know, they win. But which one are you closer to? And how do you become more like...

You know and that's what you have to figure out. Yeah, you have to figure out what the archetype is that works really well Yeah, but not that works very well will race very well for you. Yeah, cuz then that you're gonna get the best like Yeah, okay, but fuck all that so just be yourself yourself don't look at it It's just knowledge at the end of it is just knowledge and the more knowledge, you know, the more you can know yourself Yeah

You're going to find out how much you know about yourself. Really. But be good. Be safe. And just be yourself, really. Thank you for watching this episode of the Jumper Jump Podcast. Make sure to comment, like, subscribe, all that good stuff. Yes, sir. Shout out Josh for coming on the podcast, man. Yes, sir. It's been a minute. Shout out Josh. We're going to link his Instagram in the description below. Go follow him. And then also go down to Spotify, Apple. Download those episodes. We love you guys, man.

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