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- If I had a nickel for every time James Charles made a response showing screenshots from a text message conversation, I probably had like 45 cents. - Jeff interviewing Quentin Tarantino. - What? Through Patreon, by the way, I'm the golden child of Patreon. I understand. What? - Meanwhile, your Patreon name is Trish Tarantino. - That was before we changed it.

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music video. It's out because why not? Just because it's not June doesn't matter. We can be gay all year round. I'm super proud of this music video. Gay music video out now. We had a lot of queens from RuPaul's Drag Race Season 17, which I was like super excited. It was like my favorite season ever. Um, and check it out. It stars Corey King, Jewel Sparkles. We also had Acacia Forgot and Joella and just a fabulous other queens and just, um,

cameos by Oscar and James. Well, yes. I should show you. I should show you now. Your little, your dancing made it. Your little cane dancing. No, I was worried for that. It was so good. I was like, okay, you guys actually served. The photos are so cute. The photos of you with the queens too. It literally looks like drag con. It looks so beautiful. I was lining up. It was,

Anyways, I was super excited, super proud. Moses makes a cameo. My mom makes a cameo. Dancers from my tour, dancers from Pride make a cameo. It was just a gay old time, really. It really was. And check it out now.

All proceeds from the music video will go to Trans Lifeline and then we donated $5,000 on behalf of the podcast and the music video to The Trevor Project. The Trevor Project has been around for a very long time. They provide a 24/7 hotline for suicide prevention so any young adults in the LGBTQ community or any adults for that matter or kids can call into this hotline if they seek help and they've been doing really great work for a very long time and so we donated $5,000

to the Trevor Project and another $5,000 to the ACLU Drag Defense Fund, which was a, what I see all the time on Drag Race. If you watch, there's like a QR code to scan. And I actually didn't know that much about it, but when I looked into it, I was like very impressed with all the work they've done. Moses knew the ACLU. They've been around for a very long time as well. But the Drag Defense Fund specifically is protecting the First Amendment right for freedom of speech for not only drag performers, but all performers in the LGBTQ community.

because it's crazy in 2025 that we're at risk for not being able to express ourselves, which is crazy, especially in the arts world and the creativity world. But they're doing great work as well. So we did $10,000 total. A couple weeks ago, we donated $10,000 to Trans Lifeline, and then all the proceeds from the music video will go to Trans Lifeline. And all really great causes to donate to all year round, but with Pride coming up,

Just a few to think of. And if you guys have any other suggestions of charities we should look into, we definitely will. Because not only do we love and support the LGBTQ plus community, but my tour and stuff has been doing really well. And the people who come out, it's all the gays. And we love it. And the fact that we all did this video together, it was beautiful. You left right before we did the drag show, but people were just so... How do I explain it? It's just like...

I don't know, just a celebration. When you just see performers from all walks of life just be there. And obviously the queens were amazing. I was just, oh my God, I've never been more intimidated to perform next to anybody in my life because they were amazing. But just even the crowd, everyone was just so hyped to be there and supporting good causes. And it was from all walks of life. We had allies and we had the LGBT. We had everyone there. And it was just really beautiful. My entire crew that I've worked with, my music producer, my director, all of them in the queer community doing... They work in queer media, you could say. And...

director Andrew he does do he has two movies out and they're both queer based movies based on Matt Ashina I keep saying it wrong Matt Ashina family it was based it was like these couples all different walks of life lesbian couple gay couple it's their parenting journey and everything it's really beautiful it's a beautiful film she also did one called The Letterman with Garrett Clayton and it was about two men during I think it's

some warm civil war. I don't know. One of the wars they find love and it's beautiful and it's wonderful. And he's turning that into a feature. So, um, it's a really, it's really fun. And like I said, I've worked with all these people for like a decade and I'm proud to be part of the queer community. I love the queer community, especially the gays. And, um, it's just, I don't know. I don't know. It's just fun. And I just thought it was a good way to give back. And all the performers were obviously paid. Um,

Maybe not Oscar and Jimmy. I think they just showed up for the fun. They just came for the fun. But we actually saved money because we would have gone to DragCon and paid, you know, quite a bag to meet. I know Corey King's Me and Great Polly would have been expensive. The cameos from Corey King. The cameos are rising. I got a Corey King cameo in my vlog. Did you?

So, yes. Oh, I haven't seen. It's in edit right now. It'll be out this week, though, for sure. So, yeah, no payment was needed because I actually saved a lot of money. We could probably send you – did you guys send a release? I could probably send you something for it. Okay. There's probably like a non-union fee we have to pay or something. But we did pay all the performers. They were all wonderful and they showed up and –

And yeah, Corey and Jules, they're kind of like the stars of the video. It's a recreation of Too Wong Fu, which is like, we talk about this on the podcast, love it. They knew it too, which I was surprised because they're 23 and 25, which is like so young. But they knew it well. God, they were just...

So humble and sweet. Corey showed up by himself. I think Jules just had like one assistant. I was like, this is it. I travel with like seven people on a music video. Like hair, stockings, pull up, everything. And they were just like, showed up. They were like literally so sweet, so fun the entire time. Like gaggy. I gooned with Jules Sparkle. You gooned? Yeah, we gooned. You don't know what gooning is? She's like, you gotta goon. And I was like, okay. And she even tweeted, like I gooned with Trisha Paytas. I was like, I got Trisha Paytas gooned with me. Oh my gosh. Is that gooning? Yeah.

I know when Ted was here. When Ted was here, he explained it differently, but... Oh, he talked about gooning? Yes. Yeah, he's... That's how we learned about it. How does he know about gooning? I thought it was like a... He's a guy in a guy's world. It's...

It seems like a drag world. In the men world, for sure. In the men world? Yeah. Oh, okay. All walks of manliness. Wait, really? Yeah. How come the Fierce Queens know about gooning then? I think maybe the faces can be kind of camp, I guess. Gooning. Yeah. I think when you're serious about gooning, it's... I think this was camp gooning. A lot of hand action and a lot of video consumption. A lot?

I thought I was learning some cute new gay slang. I was like, ooh, I need some drag slang. What is this? Okay, something I should not know. She said it was a cutesy face. Okay.

I think maybe that's the face you have at the end of the session. Oh my god, what? What are we talking? About gooning. I did not know until Ted showed up here. Well, you're turning red like you knew. It's funny. How do you know about gooning? Men be gooning.

I can't take any more gooning from men. I only take it from cute queens only. Oh my God. Okay, I didn't know. She made a cutesy. She was like doing. I'm sure Jewel, everything Jewel does is like cutesy. Yeah. So I'm sure she was doing the camp way. Like, yeah. Gorge, by the way, I know I look really small. Like I was watching the video and I look very like short. Not.

But I look short. But it's only because I was wearing a kitten heel. I was being the Mistress Isabel of the season. I was wearing kitten heel. And they all were wearing a huge. Even Corey was wearing like. Because Corey got clocked for wearing the small heels by Rue in the season. But she was also wearing like gold, like seven inch ones. So everyone was wearing really tall heels, which I simply could not do. But it doesn't matter what you would have wore.

Like, Kory is just like, I don't know, 10 feet. She was 10 feet up there. Yeah, she was tall. And then her wig was like this high. The wig gave the inches. But Jules was very, when she took off her shoes, we were actually kind of the same size. I was kind of like, oh, okay. So that's what I'm saying. Jules made me look teeny tiny too. Yes. She even clocked me. She's like, I didn't know you were so short. I said, gosh.

In their 8 inch heels. They were gagging me left and right. Well, I never realized, I guess that is part of the drag world, but on Twitter, they're all like gagging each other. I was just like, oh my gosh, all the reads. Yeah, I was like, oh, okay. I loved it. It was...

It was a dream come true. You'll see in the video. Watch after this. But we did this whole runway thing, and I felt like I was on RuPaul's Drag Race. It was so good. I feel like we should react to it, but maybe not. Should we wait? I want to show. It's short. Should we react to it or no? We're on a tight schedule today. But I think either. I want to show Oscar. Yeah. Okay, let me show him. It's only like two minutes. I'll just send it to you. Maybe I can send it to your computer. Oh, yeah. Or a link. I feel like it's my favorite. I think even if we don't show the whole video, just to see Oscar. That's true.

Hear me thinking it's like a masterpiece. We can later on watch the whole video on Patreon. Yeah. Okay, well, I think we should watch the whole video. I loved it. I'm like gagged by it. Even like, I was just watching it. I was like, wait, this is actually so, it's actually so good. I don't know. Maybe it's just me. Okay, I sent it to you. No, it was like being on a movie set. I mean, the whole production. Should I email it to you? No. No way. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Oh, I didn't see this part. Oh god. I'm scared. Oh, okay, it worked! I'm dead.

Hi, your mom ate that off. Oh! Oh my god. Oh, I love this part. That was so good! It's my favorite video. I just... Okay, yes. I loved it! I was so good. Oh my god. I never want to show anyone my music videos, by the way. Usually I'm like, oh, cringe, cringe, cringe, but I love that one. No, that one is so good.

And the turnaround was so fast. I thought it'd be like a couple weeks, but you have a week. We filmed it on Tuesday. That is crazy. And that's colored and everything. It's so good. This is Oscar with the queens. I love it. It looks so small.

I was living. I was fully living. There was another one. This is you, Jules, and Corey. Oh, my sisters. Oh, my God. You got them in both outfits, too. I love it. Thank God. I forgot about that one. And then, oh, yeah, then there's some stills of you and Jimmy dancing. I love that one. Oh, my God.

I was really working. I was like, let me, uh... You really were. I was very... I was giving my all. Proud and impressed. And Jimmy, too. I was like, wow. I was really... I just...

love the gays. And I feel like I just say that sometimes because, you know, everyone loves the gays, right? It's like trendy. It's to be like, oh my god, we love the gays. Gay fans are the best. But I really do. I'm just the happiest. I realized that. I was like, I think I'm just happiest around gays. I love it so much. It was so fun. I don't know. It made my whole life. It was just like fun. I don't know what to say. It was just like fun, fun, fun. And everyone was just happy to be there. Everyone was hyping so much. Joella was like, wait, this song is really good. And I was like, Joella, you thought Woman's World was good too. But

You just start reading. I also start turning shady. I'm like, oh, I'm also a queen. I'm so shady too. I was like, oh my God, just me trying. I have never been more intimidated by anybody in my life. I really love the Queens this season. And, you know, obviously when it's the fresh season, it's,

They're so big because the season just happened and it's like one of the biggest shows in the world. So I was so happy they all said yes and I was so – I was intimidated. I was so scared. But they were very, very sweet. Both Corey and Jules was down to come on the podcast. Yes. So we got to get them on. Yes.

And Jules even said, Oscar, are you going to be there? She was so excited. I know. And Kory even vlogged leaving the set too and said the same thing. Yeah. Really? Yeah. They were just so, they said that you were so nice. It was so fun to eat with you. And they love spending time with you. And they are so excited to come on Just Trish at some point. So I'm very excited.

I love them. Yeah, everybody, all of them, all of them were just absolute queens. But it's like, you know when you're young and you also get this new fame, right? Like Corey, obviously, they're all killing it. They're all doing major club appearances, all this stuff like that. And you get new fame, sometimes you get like, no!

Not in a bad way, but you're really famous in the moment, right? And so you're just like, oh, I don't have time to do this little thing or whatever. But the fact that they came and did it was super, super sweet. And that's, too, why I wanted to donate to all the charities. Because I was just happy they all showed up. All the performers. All the ones. All the ones.

dancers in the little shorts they're my pride dancers but they all dance with like Beyonce at Coachella there's a Britney Spears backup dancer like they all dance with like major you know celebrities so the fact that they came and did this little fun song was really fun so yes and RuPaul don't sue me because we have a little Sean Payne's day in there but

That was, okay, so I did the voice memo of this whole song to Jeremy, but he put that little part in there, and I was like, I don't know if we can use that. I feel like that's trademarked, but we love you, and we love Drag Race, and we love the Queens, and we support, and yeah, so thank you. And like I said, I'll post these songs. We'll go to a good cause, because we're not just monetizing off gays just to put in my pocket. We're doing it for good. So download the song, stream it everywhere. Catch us at Pride, Friday, June 6th, I think.

In Washington, D.C. One of those. One of those, yes. That is so funny. And behind the scenes tea that I have to give is the best part is the little dancers doing like their booty shots. Is your mom, you're like, mom, you want to see on the screen, on the monitor? And she's like, no, I'm looking at real life. She was like, she was really into that choreography with a little booty shaking. Yes. She loved it. And then she was next to another one of our dancers in booty shorts. And.

And I was like, Mom, we got to get more into it. We got to get more into it. And she was like, okay, I didn't know if I was a gay or an ally. She didn't know if she was supposed to be into the man or not. I was like, Mom, you're just my mom. You're here to support. But she was wanting to know the notes of it all. She's like, well, I'm like, it's everybody, you know. Okay. Then Moses, his cameo is pointing. Weirdly, that shot made the cut of him pointing to ice cream on the back of his shirt. I don't know.

I don't know, but I also loved you being there. I was happy to read it. Because I was caught off guard. I was like, it was my turn to do a solo dance or something. But I didn't even see where the camera was or what it was. I was looking at you and it was just like... I think I was the most, I've seen you like nervous. Like I've never seen you like...

not not for myself i was i knew that you were nervous about having me there there's like you know what i mean no i wasn't no i was more for you and that's what i was nervous for you because i'll tell you why because i was nervous to like perform like when we did the picnic table thing and jules goes up first struts on the picnic table just looks so fierce and eight inch heels just serving going down dipping dipping dipping then corey's up next corey is doing the most

the legs open like just doing so much and then Andy my director was like Trish do you want to go up there and I was like

my head I'm like no of course not like I'm seven months pregnant I don't know if this is gonna tip over like I'm not gonna even be able to move before I was pregnant but definitely can't move now being pregnant like that like I'm but it was like my one shot and I was like okay trash you did this video we went budget for this we went is it budget or no budget I don't know what to say when you'd like it's no budget no but no cost no budget yeah yeah I mean we had a budget okay when you tell somebody we tell somebody you're on a budget and

Okay. Or if they ask you, is there a budget? No budget. Yeah. This was crazy. There's no budget. Yeah. I haven't gotten the rest of the invoice yet, but usually he knows what to keep it in, but it probably anyways. So I was like, Oh, just, just like do it. This is like your video. You like wanted to do it, but I was the same thing for you. I was just like, I know when people go full out, like, cause there was a bunch of solos before you. Um,

Maybe you don't get intimidated, but I was. I was intimidated. I was like, I don't want to, like, dance. But then I had to, like, let it go, especially for the drag scene at the end. We did that at nighttime. And I was like, okay, Trish, just do it. Even though everyone else is, like, serving so hard, I just – I don't know. I always thought I was a good performer until I saw them perform. And I was kind of like, damn, I'm really – I'm a myth.

I'm a mid which is fine. I'm admitted to be a mid but I was like, Damn, they're really, really good. There's just so what is the word coordinated? Like never falling? Yeah. How even when they sometimes do the wobble as a fake out like, whoa, but they're like in control of it. I was like, no Bowen arrow. She's like a local LA queen. I think she's she's friends with Acacia. And she's the one in the blue, the really tall one, but she's literally like a circus performer. Like she does aerial work. She does like fire dancing.

And, like, she's so tall and, like, I don't know. The thing she does with her body... My back was hurting just from the little... The little pain. Same, yeah. Me getting up on that table and my back was hurting. No, I know. She... I know. I didn't know they were going to go full out like that. I would tell you. Because, like, right when you guys left, it started. But I didn't know. Like, I didn't know if it was going to be, like, long or slow or whatever. And they did all those performances. And they did it probably, like, 30 times. Like, full out. I was...

I was gay. I was so gay. Because obviously I watched Drag Race and stuff. But I actually have never really seen like drag performers like live. And now it's like all I want to do. Because watching it I was just like so mesmerized. And like even the featured like extras. I guess you could call them. But they were just so wonderful. They stayed. And they were so hyped. It was just. It was so cool. Because I was like. Um.

is gay okay? And they'd be like, hell yeah! They were just like so excited. So I don't know. They really brought a lot to it. Yes, and Devos, who's also Acacia's friend. I met her when she came to do the collab and she was there. All of them were...

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At first, me and Jimmy were positioned right next to one of your dancers, Jonah. And then at first, he was wearing sweatpants for work. And then he took off the sweatpants and it was like the red booty shorts. And we're like, copy that, copy that. So I think we just decided to go full camp because in comparison, it's like, well, yeah. So yeah, I had fun with it. I was really excited to be there. It was...

Way more than literally I ever thought. You really downplay everything. Even your birthday dinner, too. I, like, that was the whole soiree. Oh, yeah. And we had no idea. You didn't. I was like, you really do be downplaying things. Well, that's so funny you say that. That one was, I feel like, more, like, low-key, but it still was...

people came. I mean, it's because to me, I'm like, oh, it's just like a cute few people. But I was always surprised that people came in. It was like little. Did you make your own birthday invitation or is it was so like, no, it was so like, you know, me, it was so low key. And I was like, OK, like it would be a little get together. Then we show up and then it's like there's a DJ. There's like a little wedding. Yeah, it was like the table. Yes. Arrangements. I thought it was like Moses making bolognese.

One day we'll do that We were supposed to have any lights Moses came through at the end to bring lights cuz I was like, oh my god gonna get dark and

other parties have like string lights go across and this one didn't and I was like okay because I don't know I guess inflation this party costs more than more I was like okay but I thought there was going to be some string lights so when we thought there was no lights and our house gets really dark at night what do you come up and you got some purple lights or something and put them out there and stuff so it was just like a DJ and like some like a little pasta wheel but it was like a five course meal but okay

And you sat next to my dad, who I just heard talking to you the whole time. Wow. The tea I got from your dad and stepmom, they are so convinced about...

What? The reincarnation of the Pope. Like, they were going hard with their own investigation. Wait, what? Because my dad didn't talk to me about this. In fact, I thought he thought it was blasphemous. I sent him articles about it. Oh, no. Because my dad's like, if you guys don't know, he's like a hardcore Catholic. Now, obviously, I'm his daughter, so he's very, like, open-minded Catholic. But he's like, he goes to church every day. He's very involved with the church. He built the church. He built the church from the I Love You Jesus video. Like, he's very...

all the money has gone to the church. I remember one time like he donated an absurd amount of money to the church and this was when I was like literally a prostitute in Hollywood. I was like, oh, I could have used a hundred dollars.

for that money and he don't need like an absurd amount to build a church but anyway so he's very catholic very anything's like blasphemous he thinks moses is literally moses he sent out another text the other day like thank you so much for saving trisha prayers answered like god sent like he anyways so that's the background but what did he i thought it was blasphemous he's never talked to me about it what did he say he was like excited or oh he was living and you're stuck on to living yeah because it was your birthday that was uh the day the pope got the

Chosen? Whatever. I don't know either. I was like, the Pope was chosen. I was like, all right. And there were just like so many coincidences coming out. And I was like... And they were telling me about them too. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I know. So the new Pope was chosen on your birthday, which is kind of a big coincidence. Both from Illinois. Your stepmom was born the same year as the Pope. So she's very into that. And only 12 miles apart. So...

They were born the same year, 12 miles apart. Yes. That's crazy. They were giving me all this tea. And then they were like, they were like, I mean, that's too many coincidences. Like there has to be something going on. Yes. And the new Pope's birthday is Malibu's birthday. So how does that tie to this baby? Well, the past Pope...

Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Pope Leo is the new one. And there was something else. Your dad was saying something else about this is Leo III, but Leo II was the first one to be on video camera. So he thinks that also is tied onto you because you have a career in front of the camera. He went on Jimmy to find it. Find it and edit it at Jimmy. I was like, okay. Just giving notes to you guys. It was fierce, but they were all in. Oh, he was into it. I think he was into it.

I think he was so confused. I remember I sent him because again, my dad loves, like he's like a super fan of Catholicism. So he loves the Pope and everything. I think it's the first Pope too, not only from Illinois, but obviously just like an American. So that was a big thing. So my dad, I remember I sent him like articles when it first came out. I was like, oh my God, I'm like trending with the Pope or whatever.

And I think my dad was like confused. So they must have really investigated after. I think they did. Because now they're all in. They're on board. And there was something else with the eights too. I forget what they said. Oh, the Pope was 88 when he died. Oh, yes. And that's my birth year. Yes. And he's Pope Francis, which is my father's name is Francis. So he was like, it's a good name for the baby. And it's a boy. And so, you know, it's not.

It's not bad. Moses was talking about middle name being Francis. I was like, okay, well, the names we think of for the first name doesn't really go with Francis. It would have to be Pope Francis. I love that my dad's on board with it. I mean, the amount of coincidences is a little spooky, like a little eerie. I'm like, wait, what?

It was all, like, for gags and giggles. And now I'm like, but actually. Yeah, but actually. No, there was a TikTok that has literally, like, this morning had, like, 9 million views talking about, like, all the coincidences. Like, Trisha's womb is so powerful. Yes. We talked about, I talked about tying my tubes. And you're like, your mom's like, I love it. Do it. But I'm kind of like, what if I'm shutting off, like, a power? What if I'm shutting off, like, life? You know what I mean? Yeah. Maybe I'm destined to have this.

10 kids, you know, I don't know. Like maybe there's something that I need to be doing for the world. There is a lot to think about now. It is a lot of pressure. I seriously am thinking about it. I'm like, maybe I shouldn't. And then even when you said like both Elvis, you know, no one died. But then the explanation I saw was,

If Elvis was a boy, King Charles would have kicked the bucket. Oh, he waited. So he was spared because Elvis was a girl. Oh, I see. Yeah, because Malibu, Queen Elizabeth, and maybe you were supposed to take out Queen Charles, but you somehow had a girl. I see. Yeah, so Charles was spared. And then, yeah, the Pope. The universe with the gender roles. Okay. That kind of makes sense because it is like, well, how did no one die for Elvis? He was spared. Yes. It was shaky there for a moment. It was shaky.

What a touch and go. If Pete Charles would have sadly passed away when I was, then I would be like, this is crazy. Pope is a little, but we'll run with it. I love that this is like a thing. I love that my dad's behind it because I was like, okay, Gen Z, you can have this one. But my dad's, I guess a boomer technically, right? So, I mean, he's behind it. You know, I'm fine. Something for everyone. Something for everyone. Something for everyone. I'm glad everyone's excited about this. I'm excited. So, when the baby comes, everyone's going to be like, oh my God, it's the Pope, you know?

All right, well, I'm here for Pope Leo and Leo. It could possibly be. My baby could, technically the due date is a Leo's due date, but I think I'm going to get a C-section early, which would make it a cancer. So we'll see. Because I know when we thought it was a Leo, we liked the name Lion King. We thought that was a good one. But Pope Leo would have been. Because you were going to do Scorpio King if he was a Scorpio. Oh, that one would have been pretty perfect, but we can't do that anymore. And Aquamarine people love, but I don't mind it for a boy, but I don't know. We'll see.

what is really switching someone suggested we take elvis's name away from her did you not see this i know i have like a million views and someone's like she's young enough she won't know she's like what she responds to her name malibu calls her elvis we say elvis and she turns like she knows her name let's just give it to this boy and then give her aquamarine i was like i don't think that's how it works our baby girl is elvis baby boy is pending but

Pen Ding is not the name. That's a good one, actually. Pen Ding. I love the name Pen, actually, so much. I would consider it heavily. I like him again. He came back around. I'm back on the bandwagon. We finished you. I know this is like, we've been doing you nonstop, but...

We finally finished it. And you were right in your prediction. I loved it. I loved her. I loved the ending. I loved the character, Bronte, actually. I wish I could have been her. I thought she was so good. I thought she was the one to end. It's so funny. I did see a meme, though. It's so funny. They're like, Joe Goldberg, like, you know, the Eat the Rich Killer. He outsmarted, like, all these people and detectives and, like, pinned it on other people but couldn't outsmart Reddit detectives.

detectives. He's like, these four. Honestly, fair. Reddit detectives are fierce. I mean, they are, yeah. Yeah. I guess, okay, I guess that's true then. I was just like, kind of funny how like he was like literally like this like monster that was able to like get everybody. Um, didn't like that, spoiler alert, didn't like that Kate didn't die. Like, how did she get out of that fire? Oh, yeah. I mean, how? Yeah, it was kind of a gag. That was a gag, yeah. And she had minimal scarring. I was like, okay, which I get it. It was a nice thing. Like, I, you know, these are my scars. I wear them, love it. But also, how did you get out?

I don't know. I actually loved it. I loved it so much. And the argument, I had a little rant yesterday on my TikTok. My TikTok yesterday was hot topics. I was talking about like two hot topics. I thought all these hot topics we'll never cover. But I really do hate the fact that they're like, oh, stop romanticizing him. Meanwhile, he is like completely naked for like the whole last episode of the thing. I'm like, well, how are we not supposed to be like, oh, he's so romantic. He's so wonderful. You know what I mean? Because he looks so hot.

Yeah, I think well Penn said that he wanted him to look like a deranged like Sexual predator so he just looked like a hot underwear model to me. That's like a Hugo Boss campaign That's why it was so contradicting because they wanted him to wear a white like a what's called white tank Isn't that like a wife beater? I don't even say that anymore. I don't know what the PC term is. But I'm saying like the white tank top is the deranged one. Like that's the deranged look. Yeah, they literally...

To go back to that, even though it's not politically correct, I guess they call it a wife beater for that reason because it's kind of tied with people looking a little... Like the Stan video with Eminem. Oh. You know, the obsessed guy wears the white tank tops. So I agree. Yeah, if it would have been dirty, give him a little beer belly. You know, give him a little bit like, ooh, all of a sudden he's disgusting. Maybe pull a little bit of his hair out. You know, just give him a little bit of a dustier look. But they made him look so attractive. And I was like, well...

I mean, hello. You know what I mean? Like, the whole thing, I just was like, mm, okay. I don't like true crime. I don't like violence. Obviously, it was, like, kind of violent against women. Obviously, like, bleh. But, again, it's, like, this TV show. It's, like, this fantasy that he would do anything for her. And I liked...

I like that he kept coming back to her, honestly, because he really loved her. He was like, honestly, you fooled me once, you fooled me twice, but here I am still loving you. And I was like, T, I really thought at the end she was going to turn and be like, oh, God, like, how can I? How can I not? He loved her for all her craziness. Honestly, that's the best. That's like Moses. When he loved me through all the craziness, I was like, wow, that's the test. You passed all three levels of crazy and you're still here.

You know? I think the show had to end with Joe Goldberg getting some kind of punishment. I feel like it has to. But did he get punished? Because, again, sorry, I hate it when we're talking about this, but I'm so into it. I love this show. Honestly, this might be my favorite show ever. Even above Bridgerton.

But yeah, and he was getting those letters from the women. I know you're saying as a comment on like society, it's like the problem is you. But like I was just telling Moses at the end of it, I was like, he's actually going to get more women than ever. It's like look at all the people in prison, like the Menendez brothers, even like Scott Peterson, like all those people. They get so many women in prison. Yeah, that was the point of the ending being like why do people do this? So he gets more. But he's going to have so many women to like choose from and fall in love with. I think there'll be another season.

Like this is the perfect like, you know, he falls in love with somebody through letters. He escapes prison because he's smart enough to escape prison. He's that kind of guy. He's smart. He's smart. Like good looking, talented. He doesn't feel like he's been punished at all. Like he's just in another setting in another cage now. That's true. But there's people around. So as long as he can, he's going to get so ripped to in prison, he's going to be like, but he doesn't have a penis. So he can't.

- Did it get shot off completely? - Penn confirmed, yes. - Interesting. - I think Penn's just rewriting some of these things. 'Cause also him being like, he's this. Yeah, he's like, actually this is happening.

But honestly, girls don't care what, you know, like I wouldn't care when you look like that. You're just kind of like, whatever. Strap it on. Yeah. Yes. Period. Adam and Eve sponsor next week. I love it. Yes, that is it. Oh my God. No, he. Right. Well, he wanted to do sex scenes, I guess, for the next season. Like he never wanted to do. Maybe that's why. Yeah.

My qualm too, I kind of wish it had more of the trial like as before leading up to him getting in jail because we kind of lose the characters that they bring back.

Yes. Right? Yes. God, I'm forgetting their names. Marianne. Marianne and Nadia. Nadia. Yeah. Like, they come in for a little bit, then we lose them. But it would have been powerful if they, like, testified and were, like, part of the reason why he was locked up. Like, they should have showed the women that survived Joe, like, be the reason he got locked up. That's the truth. They did that, though. They did. When he was in the cage in the basement, that was the trial.

They all came. They all testified to him. So they did show that in a way that wasn't... Very little. Marianne more so. Nadia had like... I kind of forgot her character. I forgot what happened. I'm like, she gave nothing. Marianne came and was like pissed. But I agree with you. I also was like... I think Moses pointed this out too. It was like...

They just left Kate. They're like, all right, bye, Kate. Kate's like, I'm going to do this myself. I'm like, bye. It's like, why did they stay? Yeah. I mean, there was a lot of plot holes, but I didn't mind it. I liked the romanticizing of all of it. I liked, I loved Bronte. He has a type. I mean, they all look the same to me. When people were like, oh, she, I don't know. When they're talking about the way she looks, I'm like, they all kind of look the same.

People were so mean. Yeah, they were like, oh, she's, like, not hot enough or something. Like, people were spamming her comments on Instagram. Like, y'all are deranged. Like, the character, to me, was kind of annoying just because she was so... I get it. She was, like, the archetype of what Jo would fall for. Like, the literary, like, quirky girl. Yeah.

with like, because it was kind of like a mix of all the girls that he's been with, you know, like working at the bookstore, going to school, like being into literature, then with love when it's like, I wolf you and then she's like, this girl's doing the chow mein, like slurping it with him. Oh, that was, couldn't get past that. Couldn't get past that. I was like, do not kiss me with those chow mein. I think she was trying to be a mix of all of them. Yeah. The wolf you, I forgot. Oh,

That was so cringe too. Okay, the cringey, I did see that. The like Gen Z slang. Yes, it was very cringe. Yeah. There was one they used in this one that was so bad. He called her like, he's like, are you a baddie? I was like, ooh. Okay, jump over. As the way she describes, Bronte describes herself too. She uses a lot of like Gen Z slang like mixed in there. It's like, oh my God. Yeah, that part. I guess they're trying to adapt, but not working for her.

All right. We're done talking. I'm sorry. I know we've stretched it out so long. I just was like, I really do love that show. I was like, damn, the show is so good. I loved it. I love this. Last season, I think, was my favorite. I know. Hot take. No one else agreed. It was a hot take, but you know, I love that you stand by it. I...

Stand by it. I'm like, get me on Ozempic. I want to be the next girl. You know what I mean? I need to get down to that 100-pound mark so he can drag me into the cage. But it was – I loved it. I love you too. I just love you. He also seems so supportive. His wife seems so supportive. I started going to her Instagram and she was like, everyone go stream you, which I thought was so sweet. It's like, oh my gosh, like your husband's making out with all these like gorgeous women and you're like, go stream.

stream it. That's my thing. He used her music in the soundtrack to this past season. Domino's music. Wait, really? Yeah. I forgot what episode, but he used one of her songs in it. Ah!

See, that's real love. He's like a real-life Joe Goldberg. He's like, here you go. I would love. Hopefully not. Well, we're watching Righteous Gemstones. Well, we're done watching Righteous Gemstones. I've made it six episodes. I can't. Have you started? No, I won't be. It's for men. It's literally written for men. It's just a bunch of literally men's penises every episode, but comedic. It's not supposed to be sexy or hot. It's always just like

naked. Walton Goggins' penis is in there. I was like, I fell asleep. Shout out to my husband who literally was like, you should rewatch the first part of this episode. And I was like, no, it's fine. I don't like this show. He's like, I don't know. Walton Goggins in a bathtub. Literally, I don't know. I guess we can talk. Wall sack, penis, just everything. And most of the things is prosthetic. I think it's real. It was something like yours. Yeah.

Thank you. I really did. Thank you. It wasn't like, it was nice. It was perfect. It wasn't like this crazy comedic length to it. No, but everything was too perfect. Oh, wow. Okay, too perfect. What if that's his real penis? He's going to be so happy. And it makes sense. You should comment on his Instagram. We love your text. They get to the next level. He'll answer you. That is so...

I just busted my lipstick thinking about that. Well, because, you know, people find him so attractive and it makes sense that he would have, like, that perfect BDE, you know what I mean? Like, because it is something about him and so when I saw it, it looked very real to me and I did like that one because all the other penises they show in this show, I mean, it makes me never want to look at another penis. Not a

Not in a bad way. They just make it in a very unflattering. There's always an unflattering situation of being humiliated. Like they find the people who broke into the thing and they like make them take off their pants or the whole show starts off with basically the guy having a sex tape. Who's the main guy? I forget. Danny McBride? I don't know. I have no idea. Somebody that works with Walton Goggins a lot. But he's like naked. That's the whole point of the show. A lot of...

like cum jokes can i say i don't know what i can say like i don't know just a lot of man humor moses even the show for moses really because he knew like one of the means of me i just i just recognize a meme there there was like goth dancing he's like oh it's this meme and he knew what this like meme they were recreating i was like all right i don't know i didn't get any of it um i don't get it it's not for me people like it bad show i try to watch it for walton goggins even that can't save it for me

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I don't know why I don't love it. And I love the idea. Like, I love Tammy Faye Baker. Like, I love you, Jesus. Hello. Like, I love the idea. I don't know. And then we watched Hacks right after and we were laughing out loud. Oh, Hacks is...

So much more simple, so much more, but the writing, the jokes were funny. Well, I guess it's meant for us. That makes sense. I think the gem zone is very, and then I put that on my TikTok and someone's like, it's a parody of men's humor. And I'm like, I get it. I think Jeff said he likes that show. Makes sense. I think that speaks volumes. Jeff and Irving quit in Tarantino. What? Through Patreon, by the way. I'm the golden child of Patreon. I don't understand.

I spiral all weekend about this. Even Mo's like, they probably suggested it and he's like, no. What the hell? We had to interview Roger Avery and Quentin Tarantino to promote the Video Archives podcast. Meanwhile, your Patreon name is Trish Tarantino. That was before we changed it.

Always Mrs. Tarantino, Trisha Tarantino. Oh my God. I had a little spiral over that. I'm like, damn it, Jeff Wittek. I'm sure Patriot asked him. I don't know that disconnect. I give up. You gotta reach out for a statement. Oh my God. I give up. Oh my God, that is so funny. Jeff Wittek would like Righteous Gemstones, that's for sure. He does, yes. He was here when he said he loves that show. Really? Yeah.

What did I say? I was like, I probably didn't know what he was talking about. I was like, all right. He would like it. It's just so, like, guy humor. We were talking about this. I think you were talking about how, like, Joe Rogan early on would always talk about guys being naked. Like, and it's, like, very, it's always, like, a very straight guy thing. Like, I remember this, too, like, vlog squad days. But even, like, high school, like, they would always talk about, like, seeing each other, like, helicopter penis and stuff like that. Like, it's a very...

Yeah, but like, yes, but also they would see like, I remember, I think it was David's bit that's very public in his videos would be like, Jonah, pull your pants down. So people could like, just like laugh at your penis. He would do that to everyone, just like flash people. And I was like, what is this humor? Like, so it's like, I get it. Like, but also I don't get it. Because like, what is the joke?

Just like, here's a penis. But you're all men. You're doing it for each other, really. So I was like, this is... I really think it's for the closeted man. That's crazy. All of them, Joe Rogan?

I think there's like one closeted person that really wants to see and then they create a humor around it. They all have the humor. I don't think everyone like really gets the humor, but everyone's like, oh, I guess this is what guys do. No, in the vlog, everybody would be like, look at Jonah's penis. Have you seen Jonah's penis? I was like, what is the obsession? But they laugh at everything there. It's not, that's what I'm saying. No, but that particular joke was everywhere and it's giving me gemstone vibes. I kept seeing every, you laughed for one and all of a sudden there was like six penises on screen and I'm like, what?

What the hell is happening? And it's not cute white lotus. It's not sexy. It's not anything. It's just like, it's like a Jonah type or like the Nick type person standing there with like their, you know, it's a flaccid penis and you can barely see it because of the belly and you know, all this stuff like that. It's very, very odd. I feel like straight guys laugh at small penises or huge penises. For some reason, they think it's like...

Silly? I don't know. That's true. Because when you have a huge penis, it's like, oh my God. Oh, look at that thing. Swinging that thing. It's also very... Crazy, but... I... I don't know. This is why I say we're all a little gay, because... That's what I'm saying. All the way. All the way. You can't even talk. I'm sorry. If you're a straight guy and you're just so excited about showing a penis to someone, like, I think you might have a little... And they just don't want to embrace or talk about it, whatever. That's their, like, humor. But...

Very weird. I have to stop officially watching Righteous Gemstones, which I'm really sad. But I thought about that because you said Penn used Domino's song. And I was like, why did they not use I Love You Jesus in this? It would have been perfect. It would have been such a perfect song. But whatever. It's over now. I think save it for a better show. Love that. Megan 3. I'm going to go up with Megan. I think it's supposed to be next week. I don't know. It was supposed to be this week. And now I think it's next week.

I have a cosplay being made for it. Oh my God, it works. So it better happen. Yeah. I think we might have to go somewhere. Oh, I'm so excited. We'll see. Yeah, I'm excited too. All right. All that. That's like just so much to catch up on. I know. You had an exciting week though. It was exciting. Yeah. I did feel like the need to comment on so many things on social media, on the TikTok, on everything. I was like, let me just comment stuff again that like no one really cares about. But I was like, let me just weigh in on this.

I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait till Hot Topics. I had to say it all right then and there. My big life update. Oh, actually, I have a little update. Well, I got Labubus. I'm fully Labubu-pilled. So I've succumbed. I've succumbed to... And let me tell you, actually, tying it back to Jewel Sparkles, it's actually her that was the final influence because she opened up Labubus with Anya Nerve, who is the winner of Drag Race, obviously. Oh, yeah. And when Anya opened that Labubu,

She was more excited about that than winning Drag Race. She was screaming in the store. She was so happy. Was it a surprise or she didn't know? It was like the mystery box and she was like, I really want this colored one. And the one that she wanted, she opened and she looked the pure joy on her face. I was like, and I was depressed at the time I was watching this and I was like, I want to feel that. I want to feel that, that like inspiration, that happiness, that pure joy. Aww.

And I went on Facebook Marketplace and I found a box of the boo-boos and I bought it in. A box? Yes, a box. And I bought them in. It was like a drug deal. It was like in a random mall parking lot. He sent me a photo of like his view from his car and I had to like find out where he was. Did you go by yourself? By myself, yeah. Gotta be careful. Yeah, bring someone. Honestly, if that's the way I go, that's the way I go. For the boo-boos, that's a story. The la boo-boo office.

Was he by himself? Yeah, he was by himself. And he just had a box of the boo-boos. He had a box of the boo-boos, yeah, in his car. Did he spend three digits on it? Yeah, three digits. But it wasn't that much more. I think there were 33 each and they sell for like 25. So yeah, I felt not terrible about it. And there's just no way. There's the Jimmies of the world who are like on the TikTok lives. They're at PopMart. They have their notifications on. They're getting them legitimately. There's the rest of us that are just trying to, you know.

Doing what we can. You know, I don't have the strength to compete in the Labooboo market. I would go on StockX and buy a $300 Labooboo. I can't either.

I see it on TikTok live all the time. So are they not available? I just can go and buy it. That's the whole lore. He sits on there all day looking for them. Yes, because they drop them randomly and they sell out like literally instantly. And then the stores like each individual store has their own like Instagram account and they'll post when they stock them. And you have to buy them online to pick up in the store. So you can't even just like walk into a pop mart and like pick up a loophole.

boo boo. You have to like put in a lot of work to get them. Oh, I hide my boo boos for my daughters. I feel a little sad. I know they would think they were cute, but there'd be nail polish all over them. So I was like, I need to hide these at all costs. But Pop Marble

Pop Mart, we love a Labubu. They did send me a Labubu. They sent me a care package and they sent me a new Labubu. But if there's Labubus to be had, there's like a new collections coming out all the time. Yes. And we're down for the, I love a Labubu too. I am someone that's like, oh, it's too like trendy. But I'm someone who likes to be in the craze, but also not like it. Because I'm not like a Labubu enthusiast to the extreme. But I like them. I think they're cute. I'm into it. I do buy them. Uh,

Maybe I should just show them, too. I guess I should start being trendy with them, too. Mine are all bedazzled. Jimmy said that he thinks they're real. Yeah, he was telling me that, too. You can scan the QR code on them, I found. Yeah, he said that he thinks they're real. I have another fancy one upstairs in a Chanel outfit, too, but they're like little bling ones, but I have regular ones. They do look real. Okay, well, I'm glad I have a real abubu. I do love them. I think they're cute. I gotta put them on my bag. Do you have them on your bag? No, I...

When I see people like, I saw a straight couple at the mall and this was before I bought the box and I was like really just wanting a labubu and I saw them at the mall and they were like, they had like six. They had, one girl had hers on her purse, her boyfriend had them like on his crossbody and I literally had the primal instinct to rob them. I had the primal urge. Like, there was a split second and my brain was like, take them. Take them.

I had to tell myself no, that's not okay, which kind of is a little scary, but I was like, I had the urge to rob them of the Labubu. I see. That's true. I'm keeping mine in the safety of my home, yes. Yeah, that's actually a very good point because, yeah, Jimmy wore his out. Yeah, I would rob him too. He almost lost his Labubu at Chili's, he said. Yeah, it fell off his bag at Chili's. Well, he is taking

pictures of them everywhere with all the pizzas and the chips. Yeah, he's taking them around town. Yeah, he's taking them out. But mine will not be seeing the light of day. Wow. My libugu. I'm torn. I do get torn with that because it's like, yes, they're meant to be seen. But you love a collector. You love to just collect. Yes. Yeah. But then I always think like in moves and stuff, I always lose my mind. I'm like, damn, I wish I would have used them at one point. Like stickers. I used to collect stickers and I lost all my sticker collections. I'm like, I should just put them

just put them on my freaking binder you know but I was like I'm gonna save these for something and then you like lose them and then you're like oh what the hell happened well I'm a little more on it you have so many possessions yes but we're getting one organized next Wednesday it's coming it's happening I'm so excited we have people organizing it's gonna be so good they're so excited about it too when organizers come to our house I'm always like a

I think you're an organizer's dream because there's so much stuff. Like even the thought of it like makes gives me a rush. I'm like, oh, I can't wait to see. Yeah. No, I'm not even an organizer. The more it's not organized, the more excited they get because they know the turnaround they can, you know, the before and after. Very dramatic. Like they opened our pantry. They're like, literally, they were like this. Yes. Yes.

Yes. And you have the space. You have all this like space to work with. Yes. That's what they said. They'd go in the kitchen like, oh, you have lots of space. You just don't use it. Perfect. Like I can't. It'll be the best money ever spent. I'm so excited about it. They did give me like an influencer rate. They're like, if you want to do like before and afters with us. Like, yeah, give me an influencer rate all day long, you know? So I'm very excited. And there'll be a big influx on Poshmart. Yeah.

Yes, that's true. Oh, I can't wait for that. Yes, there's going to be. Your mom's going to be freaking busy. She'll be here with them. She'll be like, I'm going to come too. And so she can like go through all this stuff. Because to me, I'm like, just take it all. I don't care. Oh, I'm so excited. Like a little yard sale. I thought about that too. Like a little estate sale. Yes. A little pop-up shop. That'd be cute. We'll do that because there's so much. I'm going to be looking. What's in here? Put it in a nice little pile. A little garage sale. That's actually a good idea. Okay, yeah.

Work. Take whatever you want, honestly. That's why when people even come to the house, they want something. I'm like, take it. Take it. Like, I just, I don't know how this stuff comes in. And I feel like I've been doing a good job not even buying things. However, people like Pop Mart, we love. But Pop Mart sends like 5,000 toys. I'm like, oh my God, we have all these toys. I did keep a lot of them. I have these little crying babies they sent me. Oh, yeah. Those are cute. Ariana started collecting those, I think. She posted on her Instagram. She's so cute.

Really? What are those, like little crybabies or something? Yeah. They're so cute. I'm going to put mine on my little crock bag. That little astronaut is a hit. Everyone loves our little pink astronaut in our house. So we love it. Pop Mart. But there's other companies that send PR Jimmy Johns in our house. And I was like, there's Jimmy Johns hats and cups. That's a Moses PR thing. I was like, what's all these Jimmy Johns things? But yeah, I get rid of stuff. And yet stuff keeps coming in. But that's OK. Organize it. Organize it. That part. And everyone's excited to organize. But yeah. All right.

Well, where did we go? Where were we talking about? La Boo Boo Organization. Oh, that was your one life update. What's your second life update? That was my big life update. I did make a list. I have like a spreadsheet of like treats and the La Boo Boo sheet. The La Boo Boo slide is kind of big. There's one that has glasses that I feel like I need because I have glasses. Wait, what do you mean treats? You made a slide of treats. Yeah, because I don't like to buy like a lot of things at once, but I make like a list of like things I want to get at some point. So I have a slide that's like La Boo Boo.

Oh, you want one with glasses. Yeah. How come you don't speak up for the glasses community more often? How do you talk about that? Do glasses community need representation? Yes, the visually impaired. The visually impaired need representation. You never talk about it, but you love things with glasses on it. Like you just said. I do, because I see myself in them. Oh, so that's what I'm saying.

So that's what I'm saying. How come you don't talk about it more? I guess I'll have to speak out and use my platform for good. I'd probably shop. I feel like I'd be talking about my glasses nonstop. When I feel them on my face, I'd be talking about my glasses. I think because I literally just have them at least 18 hours a day, every day. Wow. And does it bother you?

No, I love glasses. I don't like contacts. I don't like the idea of LASIK. I feel like my head is big too. So anything to distract, I'm like work. Same. I love glasses for that reason too. But they bother me after like – I mean this part, they bother me. This part. And I love – I have so many glasses and I need them too. I'm also like – I can't see. I'm also visually impaired. But –

They bother me after a while. They just like sweat, you know, right here. They get a little sweaty. They mess up my makeup. I don't know. Just having them on my face. Like even smiling, talking. They move when you eat. Like, I don't know. They're not comfy. They do get smudged a lot. Yeah. I hope, maybe if I speak out about my glasses more, I'll inspire you to wear yours. I know. That's what I'm saying. You should talk.

about it more. I never see you rubbing them. You know, I love when people do that, when they like rub their glasses and clean them. I never see you do that. It's so funny. We make them not a part of your life, but it's fine. I don't know why you don't though. You're right, I will. I will definitely speak out about it more. I have like, I carry like a little chamois with me all the time. Oh, you do? Yeah, it's in my backpack, so I just always clean them. Yeah.

Okay. I love when most of us wear his, but same thing with him. You never wear them that often, but when you do them, I was like, wow, look at those glasses. You wore them on the music video set though. Yeah. Oh, we can finally show that picture of you three with the glasses. Oh yeah, it worked. Jimmy, did you see it? You saw the picture? Yeah. I sent it and Jimmy's like, Oscar looks like he's posing like an Oscar. Did you see that? Yeah, I was so cute. It was cute. You look very small. They all look very similar for some reason. You all look so much like each other. I don't know what it was, the hair, the glasses, but you all looked very similar. It was very cute. I

I love it. Show all the behind the scenes, Jimmy. There's so many good ones. I'll send you guys the photos too and the Dropbox link. I saw Stitch was at the Santa Monica Pier too in his little pink car. Damn, I didn't see him out there. Holly sent it to me and I was like, how do we not know where he's going to be? Like, I want to see this little guy. We're going to have a Stitch at our birthday party. We did. We went back and forth. Moses was very much like, I don't know. They can be kind of scary. I was like, no, she loves those little animals. So there's a Stitch.

And it's apparently there's a real life Lilo. We haven't seen what the Lilo looks like, but it's fine. Whatever the Lilo is, it's fine. As long as it's not a white person. Well, I guess we should probably verify that it's like accurate. Yeah. Okay. Whatever it is, it's going to be dubious for sure. That is not true. We don't know that they're going to

They're going to be good. I'm sure. A real life size Stitch is just not... Like, the whole point is, like, he's a little cute thing. I did see him. Yeah, he has a big one. He has a big Stitch, but... It's cute. Well, they have, like, when Pokemon has, like, Pikachu go out, it's cute, though, because it is, like, the proportions are... make him look small, because he has, like, a huge belly and tiny little feet. So, proportionally, he does look little, even though he's kind of big. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, too. I think it's going to be cute. I think he can have a Lilo and Stitch party, you know what I mean? So...

I think it'll be cute. We are going back and forth with it. Surprisingly, Elvis's birthday is less than mine. That was so crazy. I don't know. Because Elvis, we have so much. We have like Dole Whip, Laymaking, Hula Dancers. Like we have all these like people coming, but it's still. Because the food at your birthday was literally like a wedding. Yeah. Budget. Yeah. I know. I was like, it's fine. We'll be on the phone. I'm like, stop, stop, stop. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine.

I have five birthdays. This was my first birthday party in like five years. It's your birthday. You work so hard. So it's not. Thanks. That's how I felt. I was like, you know what? We did it. We're doing this tour this year. I'll probably go back to like having no friends in a year, but.

I see a lot of people now and I like to see them and they're fun and it's a thing. Not that they're not always there. I'm no bad friend. I'm the one who is like, I'm tired. I can't see anyone. But I think everyone who you're around right now is also like that, which helps. Yes. Oh, no. It's the best. That's why they get it. We all get it. And then when we see each other, it's fun. It's pretty. Yes, exactly. We all are in the same boat. Yeah.

and then three kids. But when she does have time, she usually schedule it to work. Yeah. That's true. And then she schedule the people she loves to work with. And that's, you know. That is true. I don't know. Like there's no, it's not like we're hanging out with people and not invite those people. You know what I mean? Like that's our hangout. Yeah. And literally everyone there. But it's always like that. And you don't work with somebody you don't love. Like there's nobody around that you don't like really, really love and want to be around. Even this, I always feel like this is like a fun time because then we're done. Yeah. That was fun. And then I just go up and I'm like, okay,

I'm like, okay. It's like work, but like not. It's so much fun. It's like, yeah, it's work, but also hanging out. Yeah, it is. It's like, to me, it's very, I know I always say this, but it feels like the old Shane days where I'm just like, oh my God, we're just gossiping, but being cute and nice. Yeah. You're like politically correct, which I love, you know? You're not mean and stuff, which I mean, we loved a mean era for sure, but I'm not in the mean era. I'm in the nice era. Tossie dumb as hell. Yeah. That was your mean era. Happy six years to my sister, everybody. Oh my God.

Time and place. My sister turned six. I think Tyler Oakley was like, should I watch this? I was like, so random. Okay. Been there, done that. Yeah. I love that someone, who is it? PopCrew? Someone tweets about it. PopCrew and PopBase. Everyone was covering the six year anniversary of my sister. Everything was her-storic. Really. Yeah. The beginning of the end for the beauty YouTubers. Yeah, she was trying to end it. Yeah. Where's she now? She kind of came back and then she kind of went away again.

I think she's still at it. She's still posting. I never see her on live. I never see videos. I don't know if she's doing TikTok live as much anymore. She really was on it. She's selling the boo-boos next week. I would die. She's buying her tatty. She should pop her tatty.

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kind of been awful. Like, it's crazy how many times. And I'm not trying to be like that person to be like, oh my God, like, when will he finally be canceled? Whatever. But it's just like crazy. It's like every couple years. If I had a nickel for every time James Charles made a response showing screenshots from a text message conversation, I'd probably have like 45 cents. Because people said that they're like, everyone liked his apology because he's been apologizing his whole life. He's like, he has it down to a T. And it's like...

I mean, it's like not funny, but like funny, you know, because it's like, what the hell? You're just reminded of it. I'm like, damn, where did I hear this before? Where did I see this? I think I've seen this film before. That's what it plays in my head when I see this. I'm like, it's actually wild. I don't.

I guess not for me to get, but I'm also like, what? You know? And it's always like a collective every couple of years. It's like, oh my God, this person was awful. This person was this. And he's always like, I didn't know. Anyways, we can get more into it later or now. I don't even know what time it is. Okay. Wow. We're cooking. We are cooking. We're speeding along. Can we get into it now? Okay. We can. Yeah. Cause might as well. It's only kind of the topic of conversation, but yeah, James Charles responded to the Evan Johnson relationship allegations. Um,

A couple hours after Kayla announced that she won her case against Evan. This was right after we filmed. Yes, literally right. I got home and then I saw it. Yes, because we saw that she had won and we did the little update. And we're like, great. The James Charles thing was when we got home. Yes, and it was a 10-minute TikTok. And I knew that 10 minutes is going to be fierce. But.

But yeah, he posted on May 7th. He said I do not support Evan Johnson in any way shape or form and let me make that effing clear He said that he did have a brief friendship with Evan, but they never had a sexual relationship He said Evan Johnson and I did not in any way shape or form have a sexual relationship We did not have sex while he was here and I did not under any circumstances pay Evan Johnson for sexual favors

He went on to say, I don't support him. I don't support violence against women. And I sure as hell don't support the disgusting, deplorable, violent, heinous acts that he committed against Kayla Malik behind closed doors. And he said that Kayla has been unwilling to have a conversation with him. And he said that, frankly, I don't effing blame her because after I watched the laughable interview between Beat Better and Zach Sellers, I wouldn't want to have a conversation with me either if I was being fed complete bullshit.

Lies and misinformation from the person whose only source of information is the same man who lied to and abused me for nine months straight.

Oh my God. That's like crazy that he like blames be better for Kayla not talking to him. Because it's like just the admission of him, the text he showed to be like gotcha, whatever. It was like literally if you said to me, right, I break up with Moses, whatever. Can I have him now? I think that's the first. That's the first reason I'm not talking to you. Like what do you mean? Second of all, he admits Evan was really depressed so he came out to stay with – what do you mean? That is why – and then –

much more we don't know so for him to be like yeah she was fed lies you're the one that was being awful that was the most shocking thing to me is him trying to be like look i was this good person look at our text messages i'm like you're just showing how awful you were as a friend that's why i was confused about everyone like standing again because i'm like okay yes i obviously with like zach and like the be better interview and stuff there's a whole lot of allegations there um about like the

between James and Evan. Honestly, I don't even need that. Like, let's just go based off what like James presents. Okay. You present a screenshot of your conversation with your friend Kayla, who yes, is she typing like a 20 year old girl? Yes. Like she's not on the stand, like writing her, her testimony about like the serious stuff that she went through. She's obviously talking to a,

It's a 20-year-old girl talking to her friend. So she is talking like casually about it in her tone, but she still uses the words like abuse, manipulation. She talks about how happy she is to be free of him. Yeah. So your first response basically...

being, can I have him now? And then you trying to tell us, like, oh, it's just a joke. Like, I know that wasn't the best thing. No, that says a lot about your character. That's the first thing you think of. And then also, it's a joke. It's supposed to just be a joke. But then the second...

He makes... Evan makes contact with you. You invite him to stay in your home? So how is that a joke if you are also inviting him over? It doesn't matter what you two did in your home. I'm not even saying that. I totally... I can believe you, James, about that. Like, maybe you didn't have sex or anything. But the fact that you...

acted on can i have him now by inviting him into your home and then also he was like and i just wasn't that close with kayla like trying to explain so you weren't that close with you weren't that close with kayla who but you only know evan because of kayla because evan is only known on tiktok because he was the plus one of kayla right so how are you not that close with kayla but you're close with enough with evan to invite him into your home to stay with you for a weekend

I know. That, to me, I know. That's what I'm saying. Like, just what he admits is, like, blood. Yes, just what we see, yes. And the way he brings the manipulative part, it's just like, and that's why people are like, oh, my God, we get it now. He wasn't that close. He doesn't support him. I'm like, too little, too late. Like, you obviously did. You obviously, you know. And she was your friend. She was a friend at some point. It's like, how are you not believing her? How are you not seeing all this stuff? And your first reaction is to be like, yeah, come stay at my house after, like, all of that. To him, yeah. And also, it's like...

The whole conversation between Kayla and James, like in that screenshot that James showed us, so the one that you admit to, like that alone doesn't make you look good. And I feel like the internet has like a weird like, as long, the last person to speak and the last person to speak authoritatively, like people just believe. Yeah.

I'm like, is anyone pausing to read the screenshot? Like, all because James can sit there and Jamesify his explanation of the screenshot. You can read it for yourself and see the words abuse, manipulation, and James saying, can I have him now? Like, it is still diabolical. I'm sure Kayla came out with like more text messages, more background. I'm sure there's more explanation. I'm sure there's a reason she's not acknowledging him, not talking to him. Like, I'm sure there's like way more stuff. Also,

the fact that she's 20 and he's 26 i mean it's also just like okay the balance of there but it is why but you're very right on that it's like very not to like call it drama but it's very by sister because it was flip-flopping it was like everyone's on james side and then tati comes back and everyone's on tati's side and then because like you said it's like the last person to speak and if she doesn't speak it's like okay well that's it that's it bottom line was james he acknowledged it that's it but um i am truly shocked because i'm not gonna say like he deserves to be canceled forever but like

behavior, not a great person in these situations. And it's kind of crazy how people don't see that at least or can just forgive so easily. I'm not the person to just like throw the hammer and just like that's the end all be all. But it is crazy how people just flip so quickly. Yeah. Like, oh, okay.

I was like, but okay. Also acknowledging something when you're not acknowledging it, when you're also not like, you know what? This was like, yeah, I don't know. It's very. Kayla, she was focusing on the real problem, which is Evan putting him behind bars because he's scared. You know, there's this person committed crimes. So she doesn't need to talk about James right now.

That's not the issue. That's not at court. That's not the word gonna put him behind bars and she got off court She won let her be for a moment. Why are you posting the video immediately after that? Like like suddenly you shifting all the conversation back to you again for never saying anything like you should have said earlier and then now it's like that happened everyone's on like Kayla side, obviously I get why he had to like obviously make a statement because it has and I guess in a way make it about himself I would he could have I guess waited a little bit longer but I

I thought it was funny, too. He was like, out of respect for Kayla, I promised her that I wouldn't say anything until she got justice. But I was like, you just decided to make that promise. You admitted herself. You never talked to her. And she showed me the screenshot of their conversation. She never responded. So he just took it upon himself to promise. But she never asked. You never needed to. You could have made a statement just denouncing Evan. So much earlier. Yeah. I don't know why you had to wait.

for her to get justice. Like...

Probably didn't see the outcome. I'm like, how in what world would a James Charles statement denouncing Evan Johnson have been used by like the public defender in this court case to be like, oh, no, like this is a loophole. There's no way just denouncing him and saying you support Kelly, you don't stand with Evan, that that would have been what makes Evan slip through the cracks and get free. Like realistically, in my limited judicial knowledge, there's nothing I've heard of where that happened.

No, and Kayla's been talking about it. Her sister's been talking about it. Yeah. Like, everyone's been talking about this nonstop. And I think that's the reason it got to court, you know, because, like, everyone's talking about it and, like, encouraging her. So it's like, if she would have had support from James earlier on, I'm sure it would have been much better than now. He definitely waited till after to hear the outcome of it all. Yeah. And also for the king of receipts, how do you have no receipts showing their friendship with Evan? Like...

Okay, you want us to all believe everything that, you know, you were just being a supportive friend or that he manipulated you and stuff. Well, you're all about a receipt. Then where are the receipts documenting your exchanges with Evan? Or are they on banishment? I'm just asking the question. Right. Were they on banishment on Instagram or did they exist? Like, that's really odd to me. Like, we're just supposed to just take your word for it that your relationship was just purely –

You were manipulated by him and just wanted to help him out because... It's always the same story again. I think I was never following James like this, but the stuff that we have followed, like the drama get in, the dinners, everything like that, it's always like, oh, they manipulated me. They did this. And I'm like...

But also we've seen him manipulate us, like just with these text messages. And we're also like, what? I think you're showing this. At first I was watching and I was like, damn, this is all messed up. But then I was like, then I started thinking about it. I'm like, wait, but the text message, like you, she said that she was, he was abusive towards her. I know. And you still wanted to hang out with him. Like, yes. So. Like laughed it off. Yeah. It's just doesn't fly with me. He's always a victim of younger men.

those younger men they always get him every time and he's such a victim of them it's such a pattern and it's like actually so annoying and it's so like crazy i guess he just has like young fans because it's just like over and over again and it's like again you just think i think we talked about this before you think it happens once or twice and you would think like okay stay away from young guys right especially like i mean 21 again we always talk about this 21 26 is like

Big difference. But also like just stay away from them. Like you obviously have an issue. Like you're not handling it as a 26-year-old should. And it's like you have an issue with these young guys. Like someone can't control themselves anymore.

which I'm thinking James, it's like, if you really had to invite this person out, like there's so many men out there. There's so many boys, I guess. There's so many like young guys out there. Like why invite this one out that your friend was like, he's awful. He's the worst. Like there's so many. And it's like something he just can't control. I don't know what it is about James. Like he like can't control himself around these young guys. And again, whatever it is, sexual friendship, whatever. It's like for somehow you're always the victim of it then. It's like, in what world? I just, it makes me...

And it just keeps happening. And I'm like, I don't know. Like you lose sympathy. Because at first I'm like, okay, maybe, you know, these straight guys – whatever. Like they egg him on, whatever. But then it's like you see – we've seen the Snapchats he's had with, you know, very young guys. The way he is with them too, it's like – I mean, take no blame. Take no accountability. And it's like at your 26-year-old – it's crazy he's 26 because in my head I think of him as like 19 because he acts so juvenile. Like it's actually so crazy that he's 26. Yeah.

Like get some help, like just get some help in this category, like gold cold turkey. Like we talked about this before. It's like, you know, you get into these situations like –

don't get into him again like the crystal is of it all you know it seems like they changed because it's like okay you got caught and you did something gross like learn from that and stop doing it even if it's just like i got caught i shouldn't do that anymore you think james would be that even though in your head it should be like let me learn from this let me see where i'm wrong at least at the very least in the public eye don't you want to be like maybe i shouldn't be messing with young guys anymore especially ones that are related to like my friends and stuff and

Like you said, the vanish mode. Who was it? I don't know if Zach Sellers is like the most reliable source. I know. I feel like every guy directly involved in this is I'm like, yeah. Someone's a little. Yeah. But on that note, you know, he is very much like I think he said like it was vanish mode, which when you said you were asking the question, it's like probably that. But also why are you on vanish mode? You know what I mean? I always think that's like so sus. I don't know. It's like going asking people for their Snapchats and stuff. It's like something sus with this. Yeah. And he just like can't be a victim all the time.

Kind of funny because James also in one of he showed like the DMs between him and Zach. He also calls Evan like dumb. He's like, oh, we know Evan can't talk for himself or whatever. Like he'll get himself in trouble. So he implies that Evan's really dumb. So yeah.

James Charles was manipulated by just like a really dumb 20 year old. Right. And James is not dumb. So he's really smart. He's really smart. And mine too. Like I, all our text messages are still there unless he deletes them or whatever. But the DMs he had sent me, you know, it's very convincing where he's like, you don't know all the facts. You don't know this. So I'm like, oh my gosh, like you're right. Like I'm, I'm sorry you went through that. Cause there was a point in drama getting where I did feel sorry for him. Cause I think Tati also kind of like, whatever it's like, even on me, I'm like, oh, I don't care. Like I'm not his fan or whatever. Even then I'm like,

yeah, you're right. Like, this is kind of unfair. You're right. This was, you know what I mean? So he's very good at that. It's also odd. I really, it's, it's crazy how he is, you know, back in everyone's good graces for the most part. But whatever, I definitely just, again, not even from everything else. Like, this is from what James has said and shown in the 10 minute video. Just from that alone, I look at him like, so I don't know if I could ever like,

have that empathy that sometimes... Because I also like the drama get in stuff. He was 19, so there was an element of like, oh, he's just a kid. But now, like, that's gone. He's an adult. When, like, Tati and Shane and Jeffrey, like, they were the adults in that situation. So, like, you do feel bad for the kid. But now Kayla is the kid, you know? Yeah. It really...

Yeah, I really turned around and yeah, I agree. The lack of empathy because it's also the lack of accountability. Like I really, we talk about this all the time. I hate when people tell stories and they did nothing wrong in the story. It's like, how can you be like, oh my God, I was a or something like that. You're blaming Evan. Oh, he manipulated me. You're blaming Kayla. I wasn't that close to her. You're blaming everyone but yourself. It's like, it's just the worst in my opinion, the worst apology because it's like, how can you not be like,

Because the only thing he did wrong was that he was too kind. And he was too nice. Right. And he was trying to help somebody that seemed in trouble. And he knew what he's going through because he went through that. Like, he built it all as such an emotional... Yeah. Yeah, he still lied to Kayla when she called and asked, are you with them? Like, is that not enough? It's crazy. Like, everything he admits to doing sucks. Like, that shows that he kind of sucks. He's just...

Yeah. Because who does that? That would be like if I was thinking about it too, like how could I even like relate to it? It'd be like if Tana like and Makoa, something happened between them, they broke up. But then Makoa, who I only know of because of Tana, I took Makoa's side. And was like, yeah, we're like, let me give you advice. Like, let me show you how to deal with this. But I owe, I have no allegiance to him because I only know him because of Tana. Yeah. He'd be like, well, I wasn't that close with Tana. But it's like, it doesn't matter. Like.

Like, that's how you know him. Like, it's so... Yeah, exactly that. It's very odd. He's definitely not a victim. And I hate, I hate when people complain like a victim all the time. This is like the fourth or fifth time where he's been like this, where he was manipulated and he was out like... Yeah. And the problem is though, like with the people who like go and make stuff up and dramatize though too, because then you give him something to work with. Like the random people making up TikTok lives, like, oh...

James paid Evans bail. Like, don't be stupid, people, because then you... You lose it. Yeah, because now you give... Now James has an argument because people make up so much stuff and, like, dramatize it. You don't need to because the story in and of itself...

is bad enough. It is very true. Focus on the stuff that is proven, especially now that James has admitted to stuff. Like, that stuff in and of itself is bad. But then, also, the problem is it doesn't sound as bad because when it's like, oh, well, there is no sex tape. Oh, he didn't pay him for it. Now it sounds, like, less bad. Yeah, like, oh, well, that's better if they didn't have sex. Yeah.

But this is still bad, people. This is still bad. Everything he admitted to was sucks. Yeah, yeah. It's very... You're right. Yeah. So it's not worth it. It's not worth the random moment of clout. And then James is going to try to sue you, too, because you're making stuff up about him paying bail and sex tapes and stuff. And that doesn't matter. Like, it doesn't affect the narrative at all. It just...

gives them something to work with to silence people. I know. I don't know. And the original apology was like, I'm just desperate. I want friends. Yeah, the desperate only cuts it a couple times. It's like, I was desperate. It's like,

Isn't that crazy? You can classify like James Charles apology. That was 2019. 2021 was this. It was like, you just like know based on the year, what the apologies were. You like knew it right away. It's not 2019 James. Six year, six anniversary. Yeah. Yeah. That's. I think both black hoodie, dare I say, right? Yeah. That's his, that's his go-to. And usually, usually there's one TikTok where he just cries to the camera, then he deletes that. And then he puts the TikTok, the long one. No makeup, then makeup. Yeah. Yeah.

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Because I would love to root for like the most popular influencer right now being like a queer creator. Yes. You know, like a queer femme presenting man. Like that's awesome. Like of course I would want that. Like I want – my heart wants to be like, yes, you go. But then the stuff comes up and I'm like, why does he have to be so dastardly? Yeah. It's rough. That part. It is – yeah, it is very sad. And there are people who like look up to him and he can do so many like –

but I don't... I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. I don't know either. I've kind of given up because damn, everyone loves him again. He has such a huge platform, but I'm like... James specifically. Look, I'm all for, okay, like 20s and 20s. Okay, fine. I get it. Whatever. I think James has a problem with dating these young boys and I don't think he knows how to...

handle these situations. I don't know. Is Evan straight? As far as we knew, yeah. So it's like a pattern of these younger straight guys and then he always ends up being a victim because they manipulate. It's like, well, let's get on Grindr. You know what I mean? Let's get on something that's not your friend's boyfriend. I don't know. It's very...

It's so sad. The whole thing is so sad. Because I was trying to give Jane the benefit. When we were watching the drama again, there was parts where I felt bad for him because there was parts Tati made up. And I was like, okay, that's annoying. But –

Yeah, and you can give grace to a young person, but then if they continue a certain pattern, then that goes away. It just goes away. And it's also like, okay, next time don't do it. But it's like, well, this was the next time. Like, how do we just keep saying it? Well, there's a pattern of young people coming to fame and money and then getting stunted and never, like, he might never change. Oh, yeah.

James at 40. Stop. That's scary. That's scary. I don't want to think about that. Oh, my God. It's just going to be exactly the same. He's going to talk the same, do everything the same. All right. Well, I'm glad Kayla got justice. She seemed relieved, felt safe. Yeah. And she's still going. She's still going to be pressing charges in California, too. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, she said the courthouse was in the town where he lived, so she's driving past everything. Mm-hmm.

She flew to Tennessee for it. Yeah, I'm glad she's seeing it all the way through. Because also, just with abusive men, so often they get away with it. And I feel like this is a reminder that...

You know, you can pay the consequences. It's all because a lot of people do get away and, like, a lot of victims don't get justice. Like, I love that she is seeing it all the way through and, like, showing people, no, like, I will make sure he faces the consequences of his actions. Because as we see, too many people don't. Yeah. No, it's very true.

Well, hopefully that's the last James Charles. I know. I'm hoping I don't have to cover James Charles for quite some time. Fingers crossed. It's been a minute. Yeah, I know. It's pretty late low. And it's been nice. Yeah. You kind of forget, too. I know. You know, it's been like a year of like low key. But that's what I don't understand is like people do forget. So why don't you, James, just use that to like keep going with just letting people forget? Why do we have to – now we're thinking 2019. Now we're thinking 2021. Now we're thinking all these things again and we're like –

Wait a minute. Yeah. There was a lot of situations. You do forget. And then you're kind of like, but this also sounds – yeah. I think we're on the not supporting James Charles. Here for growth if it could happen, but I think that needs to be – as I say in every show, seek help because it goes a long ways.

I think you're old enough now that you're able to seek help for this addiction that you have with these straight boys. And be able to see the red flags. Like, obviously, I do believe a lot of these young boys are lying. But also, it's like you're supposed to be the adult and be able to clock that. Because teens and young – early 20s, they're not good liars. Right. Especially at this point. We see that pattern. You should see the pattern too. Like, what –

All right. Oh, another influencer drama. You're, you're, not Brett. Have you ever collaborated with Stephanie Hsu? No. No, but I love her. But also I think I did, I remember when she came for Nakata, I involved myself in that drama too. I also was like, Stephanie Hsu, you are the scary one. Really? I think so, but I love her.

I love that. Mango. I was going to say your friend, but I guess. I bought her merch. I had her bitch merch back in the day. I was a fan. I do like Stephanie Sue. Well, she's been in a little bit of controversy lately too. Yes. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, yes. Because Stephanie Sue is going to be in or has also been in the courtroom covering the Sean Combs.

aka Diddy trial the sex trafficking or racketeering trial she's inside the courtroom it's a very select amount of press so

So it is a big deal that she got a credential and is allowed in the room because it's not live streamed like other cases. There's no like photography, no videos inside the courtroom. So really the main source of information that like the general public gets about this case is going to come from the press. And there's not very many. It's only like a couple. I think like she said three rows. I think it's like maybe like one or two dozen.

So very limited. And it was a big deal that she got this access because she is like an influencer. Sirius XM, they did like a whole press release to announce that she was going to be in the courtroom covering too. Wow. Yeah. So they're doing a big push to show that Rotten Mango and Stephanie, they're going to be representing. Yeah. She's pretty massive. She is. I mean, I know Stephanie's different doing mukbangs and then she did the true crime with the mukbangs. Now her main thing is the Rotten Mango, which.

I am addicted to and I hate your crime but I love her voice. Yeah. She is in one of the she's one of the top 10 podcasts in the US according to Edison Research. Yeah. So that's a big deal especially when you think about just how many podcasts are in there so to be literally in the top 10. Oh my gosh. That's amazing. Yeah. That's a huge accomplishment. Why she's in the courtroom.

the courtroom yeah because i think even that in and of itself like that announcement already had some skepticism because like obviously it's going to be a lot of traditional journalists in there and stephanie sue so that in and of itself but her platform is so big so it does make sense does she have a journalism background

Just through – not technically. Not on you. From what I've read, it's like through just like her content. Like she – No like education for it. Not that it matters. I'm not – No, I don't think so. Or like real journalistic experience. Isn't that crazy? You're like in the courtroom for one of these big trials. It's like so secluded and you don't have any background other than you like it. You like a little true crime. You do a little research on it. I mean she is very great and she's very good at researching. But that's –

so wild yeah it is but I think it speaks to the um

ecosystem right now too because look at like Alex Cooper but she's interviewing Kamala Harris you know so it is kind of the landscape where like podcasts and like this generation of like influencers who ended up with like huge shows they are like the new journalists in a way for better or worse you know I don't mind it I don't hate it I kind of love that social media is like getting up in there and stuff so yeah and even like a Theo Vaughn with like Trump like you know these people do oh

Get huge access to like the biggest world leaders and celebrities of our time. So it kind of makes sense with how everything else is going. But she posted a TikTok after...

While jury selection was going on outside the courtroom. I saw this one, yeah. And the way she described her experience with Diddy made people upset because she said the way he looks, you know, when koalas, when they get fuzzy and it's really humid and they have very fuzzy grayish whitish hair is kind of reminiscent to that. What? I didn't see that one. Oh, she was like dancing. Oh, that was the second one, yes. Oh, wow.

This was the first one where she's just talking about it. What does that mean? And she said, the way he looks at every single person in the courtroom is the most intense thing ever. I feel like he's challenging people to break eye contact first. I almost peed myself. So the way that she's talking about it. So the way that she's describing. Our journalist in the, our social media representation for. Yes. Love that. Okay, well. So just the way that she's already like describing her experience with Diddy. It just, it just.

like her because I listen to her podcast and she is so like professional with the way she handles these situations. So it is, it's weird. Why did I say that? I don't know why. I don't know. Sometimes the F word just comes out, but it is weird. Like how come she's just like. Yeah. It's like people were coming for her because they were criticizing her for being almost like too giddy and too excited when it is like a real case with like dozens and dozens and dozens of real life victims. Yes. And then the TikTok you saw was another one where she was, um,

She was eating an Uncrustable twirling outside the courtroom to a little instrumental soundtrack. And the caption was, Just a girl eating her mushy PB&J outside of the federal courthouse after spending eight hours in the same room as Diddy taking 79 pages of notes because cameras aren't allowed in the courtroom and I know you need to know what's happening. Just a girl. Just a girl eating her mushy PB&J. I was like, oh my goodness. That one was crazy. That one I was like, is this real? I had to look it up. I was like, is this real?

Is this real? That one was wild. The twirling her skirt. I was like, oh my goodness. That one was, yeah, that one was a little. Again, I feel like it's like not her brand. It used to be like the cutesiness, but I feel like she's just not that anymore. So it's just like such a weird thing for like you said, like a literal true crime trial happening in real life. Yeah. Not only, yeah, there's like, and it's intense. Like again, I think we forget because it's like the videos and stuff like that like have come out and kind of forget.

And like seeing all the stuff, it seems like a spectacle. But I'm like, damn, this one was pretty intense too. Like those videos of him in the hotel room with Cassie. Yeah. It's very like sickening. And it's like, yeah, it is kind of wild. It's.

I don't know, just the lightness of it all. Yeah, I think also... Time and place. Time and place is a big one, too. Because I think, too, like, I've read... I haven't gotten into Stephanie's stuff that much. I had a very small true crime, like, era where I was, like, very fascinated by it. But I kind of phased out of it. But, like, even reading...

about her like transition into from like mukbangs to like mukbangs slash true crime. Like she did get a lot of criticism for that era. And then that's why she like pivoted towards like Rotten Mango where it was like more like focused on, you know, like the victims and taking it more seriously. Because I think that's also good. Like she was open to that feedback and then she pivoted. Like she didn't want it to be like

like, her eating and then also telling these stories. So she tried to take it more seriously. So I do think she's very open of feedback, which I think is good. So less twirling. Yeah. And also, maybe she is just excited because it is obviously a big opportunity. Sure, yeah. Because the media access is so limited. But also you have to remember that this is a big opportunity and the whole world is watching. Yeah. Because you know when things also, like, leave, like, the Judge Trish bubble, like, and they get, like, clipped and other people are analyzing without, like, knowing. Yes.

Who you are. Yes. Yes. Because I'd be like, who's this girl? Yeah. You know, because she is so cutesy and stuff. Yes. And so you kind of like fight against that too. It's like, no, you like deserve to be there, but like show why. Because if you're the only social media person allowed in there, like that's such a big deal. Like you talking to the camera saying. Acura's all new ADX, a compact SUV that isn't just built for one thing. It's precision crafted for everything. To escape the grind with available all wheel drive. To go with your flow with available Google built in. Hey Google, turn it up. Okay. Turning up the volume.

Take your vibes on go.

- Google is a trademark of Google LLC. - What you saw like is so like important and apply to get the most eyes because you are a social media influencer. So it's like, yeah, I think at that point you pivot, which is why I would never want that job. Oh my God. Don't put me in the ditty. - Can you imagine? - Me coming back to report.

I could be wrong. I don't remember. Like, just so bad. But she's a lot smarter than me and she's a lot more articulate than me. So it's like, girl, I'll just keep that because I think people would be so excited. And the fact that you look – you already look cutesy. You don't have to, like, act cutesy with a little mushy peanut butter sandwich. You know, which we love the crumb crustables in this house. But I was just like, just, yeah. Because she has, like – it's such a big deal. And so – Yeah. The TikToks. I just saw them everywhere. And I was like, this is crazy. And so what I saw, I was like, is she really in there? Yeah.

Yes, she is. Well, I still don't really get the koala. Like cutesy? He's like cutesy or it's like he just had gray hair. I think fuzzy and gray. Like his... Because the last photo of him... I think it's just her... Like her attempt of being poetic. You know, like she's trying to push further her... The way she describes what's happening in the courtroom. Okay, got it. Because the last photo of him, of Diddy, he like... His hair like was long and gray and also he has like...

gray beard and everything. Because he can dye his hair. So suddenly it's like a fast transformation. I suddenly realized how old he actually is. But I think- Koalas are kind of cute. That's why I was like, is he like looking like doe-eyed? Yeah, koalas are poor. A poor choice of hair. But other people in the courtroom also described some of the things she said of like how much eye contact he makes with people in the room and how outgoing he is towards, they're like, he's still a performer. He still try to talk to people in the room and ask them how they're doing, all kind of stuff.

So that part is real. But I think she's, you know, when people hire her to do this, they want a certain thing. It's like when they wanted you to do Broadway, but they wanted you to mukbang on stage. You know what I mean? So there's that weirdness of like, they got her for a reason. And part of the reason is that. Like, she's supposed to communicate to a younger audience in a younger way.

I had to fight really hard to not eat sandwiches on stage in my Broadway show. They wanted me in the middle of the show to like eat – well, I won't say what brand, but it was like a brand deal. And it's like I love a brand deal, but I'm also like, but this is my Broadway debut. Do I really want to just stop midway and all of a sudden we're eating sandwiches as part of a brand deal? I don't know. I get it because, yeah, they were like, but that's what you do. And I was like, but I don't want to during my Broadway show eat. Like I'm more than just eating. Yeah.

So they take a mukbanger into a, you know, into a courtroom on a big, one of the biggest cases there is. So it's like, obviously, there'll be something that's kind of, yeah, there's always a little miss between like, yeah, like, I don't know what, who even hires her for this thing? What is it? Who chooses them? The state? The state of California? Well, it's in New York, but. Oh, is it?

That's even crazier. Which network it was? SiriusXM. Yeah, SiriusXM is the one behind all this. Yeah, it's so funny. Dealing with brands is very much like that. They think it's very one way. Even my little love sack, which they love, but the little love sack chair, which I love that chair. That's still my favorite chair. I made Moses drag that all the way up. I'm like, we're keeping this chair. They're really funny. They're like, then she takes a handful of chips and crunches really loud into the microphone. I'm like, I love that that's like...

The brand, they think. They mixed everything. It was like, they wanted ASMR. They wanted a mukbang. Slurp. They're like, make sure she has some chips. I'm like, okay, I'll upstairs get the chips. I thought we were just doing a cutesy little kick out thing. But yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah. Maybe they're like, do a viral TikTok. I don't hate it necessarily. I think it's kind of cutesy too. I like it. I mean, it's funny, but also-

I don't know. I don't hate it. It's weird. I would do some s*** about that for sure. I'm definitely going to be doing something inappropriate. Look at me with Pope Francis just still talking about my baby. You know what I mean? But I'm also not Stephanie Sue. I'm not talking about true crime. But I love her. In my mind, she can't do any wrong. Even though I did come for her when she came for Nick O'Connell. I don't know why.

Nickicado's coming to California in June. So he said anyone wants to collab. So I said to him another podcast. I guess he's looking for OF collabs and just collabs in general. He's doing another surgery. So we'll see. But I went hard for Nickicado during the Stephanie Sue thing. It was a big fallout. It was a big deal too. The Zach Choi. That was drama. But it kind of got looked past. I think it was 2019. It was that year. Oh, that explains why. My Downward Spiral. I had a party where Zach Choi and Nickicado were there. But then they had a falling out. It was very crazy. Zach Choi took Stephanie Sue's side. It was very, you know.

He was very – if it was a trial against Nikocado, he was against Nikocado in it. It was very interesting. But all right, Stephanie. So I like that she's out there doing big things. I know. Alex Cooper, yeah. We mentioned her and she like has a documentary coming out. I was like, damn, they're all just – Yeah. I think people discrediting Stephanie have to realize like, okay, having that many listeners and that many eyes on you, like a lot of traditional media outlets don't even have that. Yeah. So –

It makes sense why. I do think she deserves that access. And I think... Like I said, I feel like she's very receptive towards criticism. I don't think she wants to piss anyone off or insult anyone, especially the victims. True crime coverage is always going to be hard because...

There's always going to be that debate about like the ethics of covering it and talking about it and stuff like that. That's why I always think like they should like – I guess it's not like business but I feel like they should be donating to like the families, like giving the money to the families or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, because that's always going to be a thing too. Like if you're talking about like victims and stuff and then all of a sudden you have a brand deal for like you eating chips with love stock. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, it feels a little –

Yeah. So the ethics of true crime media, especially like with TikTok and YouTube and stuff, it's always going to be weird. I think there's no. Would you rather work in true crime media or queer media? Queer media. I love that term. Is that, did she coin it, that queen? Or was that always a thing? That queen. Love her. I do love her.

I feel like it's probably always been a thing. I mean, there's queer outlets, you know, like The Advocate and stuff. So, Pink News. Pink News. What is that one? I like that one. They're an LGBT outlet. Okay, I love Pink News.

I love that. She's like, I work in queer media. Because then Cynthia Riva was like, do I work in queer media? I was like, do we? Are we in queer media? We do. We are in queer media, technically, yeah. I like that term. It makes sense now. It's like, oh, yeah, they also work in queer media. Yeah, I mean, just Trish, right at the beginning, wasn't it on Grindr? Yeah, we were in the Grindr, yeah. In 2023. 2024, we slipped. But I feel like we're back on the come up. You're doing a lot of work this year, I think. I'm fighting for that Grindr number one spot. I don't know if I'm going to ever be Trixie and Katya, because they are, even at my own shows, people are just like, we're Trixie and Katya.

Katya. I was like, okay. Which we love, but also like, yeah. By the way, I should just say, I picked the queens that I did. Well, I reached out to them because I knew they were fans. I feel, or like liked me at least. I would never reach out to like a Suzy too because I love her or like on your nerve, obviously they're queens. But there's no indication that they would know who I was or like liked me. But each one of these queens has said something about me. Corey King did Kissies for My Fishes. Jewel Sparkles gave me a shout out in the Las Laches song.

Obviously, Keisha did me for Snatch Game. And Joelle recently tweeted me. So if I knew they were people who kind of liked me, that's – because I felt – you guys know my fear of rejection. Especially people you love. Oh, if Suzy 2 were to reject me – I know. Me too. I'm scared. Oh, my God. I'm too scared. Even last minute, I asked Corey if Lydia wanted to come, but she's doing –

All stars. But I don't think Kory saw the message because she's like, I don't ever check my ex messages or whatever. But even then I was like, ooh, I'm too scared to ask. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. It's very – so anyways, I don't know. I thought I should clarify that because I would love every single queen to view my video. But I'm terrified of asking anyone. But when I see a queen follow me or I think Hermona Lisa had also put that sheet like impersonating me. So if I see them like me in some capacity, then I do. Otherwise, I would just assume they're probably like, ugh.

Who's this? Lucida Luca. Yeah. Yeah. You do have a traumatic drag queen relationship. Yeah. And they'll read me. They'll come for me. Rightfully so. I do not want to get read. But yes, I love all of them. But I would be – yeah, I'm always scared to ask. So just noted on that. Which queen did we just talk about that made me think that? Oh, Trixie. Oh, yes. Oh, well. I didn't ask Trixie because I've been DMing her like 20,000 times. So no response. I would love a Trixie and Katya, but they're –

They're superior. They're busy, too. They always got something. Trixie, I think, is on tour again, too. Yeah. Weirdly, we were in the same cities and stuff like that, kind of following each other for a minute. If you can't get Trixie... Actually, no, you can't even get Trish sold out, so...

these next ones right yeah we're gonna be sold out for the rest of the year yeah sorry so we can't get either yeah sold out queen yeah we kind of are actually sorry about it maybe come to world pride i don't know how that works and just buy anyone buy a ticket i don't know i think so yeah it'll be like the lady gaga performance in brazil or it's just like three million people in the whole the whole town that's how i'm feeling it's gonna just get drone shots it'd be crazy i would love that i know i think we'll

What just happened? Was it Wango Tango this week or something happened? Yeah, Wango Tango. Megan Trainor. Which, yeah. Yes, that jogged me. But, okay, so that's what I'm not scared of. It's fine if no one shows up to my set. But it's, they showed it. Oh, was it? I didn't, wait. No, you say. I thought you were talking about something else than Megan Trainor.

How she changed all about that bass lyrics. She made it the skinny version. Oh, really? Yes. Because I said something else about her. Oh, wow. So much bigger traitor news. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. The big end. The big end. Because, you know, because...

Yeah, it's pretty clear. I ain't no size two, but I can shake it, shake it. Like now it goes, yeah, it's pretty clear. I got some new boobs and I can shake them, shake them. Okay. Skinny queen. I'm a size two now. She's like, yo, I'm gone. She's not all about, I'm surprised she even did the song. She had to like skinny-fy it. Oh, if I'm skinny, I'm no longer doing fat chicks. That's crazy. That's just mocking at that point. Just rubbing it in your face. Fat chicks ass. Just kidding. I'm a skinny queen.

I'm on a Zephyr. It's not me anymore. She is so snatched in this, dude. So snatched. She's like a chupi. She is like, oh my God. New boobs and a bikini. She looks so good. And he's like all about that bass. I'm like, oh my God. Where's the bass? We want to see that bass. The bass in the room. Yeah.

that oh i didn't know she changed the lyrics she made it the skinny version maybe she'll release like taylor all about that base skinny version she needs to yeah she needs to come out with the skinny bop for sure i always thought about that in fact i think i did come out with a skinny bop there was a song i wrote called like revenge body or something and it was like really when i thought i was gonna be skinny so i wrote the song before i got skinny as like watch i'm gonna lose like 100 pounds i'm gonna do this video it's like body on 10 i think we played it before that's my revenge it's just like talking about like how fit and snatched i am

And obviously I never got fit and snatched. But I was like, this is going to be the comeback song. Oh my God. Whatever. She needs to do that. That's wild. No, I was talking about – and it's like, again, not a bad thing. But like there was an angle where it looked like nobody was there. But it's like – then someone said everyone was in the pit. Like they pushed everyone to the front, whatever. So it could have been like 30,000 people and it just didn't look like it. But it looked like nobody was there. So everyone's like, what happened? Like whatever. So I was thinking about that with festivals. They're like, oh, 40,000 people are going to be there. But I'm like, what if they're not there for my set? You know? What if it's like this huge stage? Yeah.

And festival grounds are huge. If they're expecting $40,000 for J-Lo, but I go on at 5 p.m. and there's only like 100, which is like great. We love it. It's going to look like that. And then everyone on the internet will be like, oh my God, 10 people showed up, which by the way, would love. It'd be everything. But it was – I thought about me then performing at a festival. I was like, ooh, this could also be me. Other people thought it looked like Tana performing, Meghan Trainor's. That's what I said. Yeah.

I saw that. I was so late. I thought Tana Mongeau was doing covers of Meghan Trainor songs. But it was just Meghan Trainor singing her own songs. She didn't like Tana. She was giving Tana. That is so funny. Yeah. Because it's kind of like what she wore in Vegas with you. Oh, yeah. She looks great. I mean, she does look good. It's wow. It's so crazy how she talked about doing Mongeau. Is that what she did? Right? Yeah. Yeah. She's pretty open about it.

The skinny era is upon us. It's not going anywhere. Everyone just being so skinny. Not me. What I need to eat after this because we didn't eat breakfast. I didn't get to go to the grocery store yesterday. That's how busy I've been. I was like, oh my God, I need something. I had a lemon bread from Starbucks and a frappuccino and an orange. I guess I did have a little bit this morning. I did have a little bit.

It looked like we had Meghan Trainor news. The big one for me was, but I don't know if anyone cares about Ace Family on our channel. I kind of care. Juicy Catherine wrote a book. Oh, was that new? I saw that she wrote a book. It's coming out in July. Pages have apparently leaked and she has revealed that Austin cheated on her. Oh, what? Wait, did you? I didn't know. Did you know? That is brand new information. Wait, but that's crazy to confirm it. I was like, okay, maybe they were broken up.

Maybe they were separated, whatever. And then he was like trying to see those girls in Malibu, whatever the hell he was doing, sending them Ubers. So that's what I was thinking. I'm like, okay, separation, they're not together anymore. But this was like at the peak, at the height. When they did that basketball game at Staples Center, you know, where they're like in the middle of the thing. Oh, yeah. He like invited them.

invited another girl there because she was like it was weird we like she we were a family people knew us as a duo and I was like oh should we walk out together and he's like I don't know like do whatever if you want to or something like it but he wanted the moment by himself the girl that he was like supposedly cheating with allegedly like was there and and Catherine's like I kind of clocked it I was kind of like I saw this girl and I was kind of like why is she so close why is she so here whatever but he invited the girl he was cheating to the freaking basketball game

That's crazy. It's one thing to like cheat. Okay. Awful. You're a pig. But at your charity basketball game where your family is at and your wife that you like built this thing. And it's not like he's famous.

this is my pet peeve with men when they think they're famous because of them but it's like you're famous because you're family the ensemble yes no one wants to see the Austin McBroom show clearly like where is he at now is the podcast still happening we don't know like maybe you got a little bit of money from Snapchat for your clownery antics but that's because you made yourself look like a fool which will live on forever and it'll embarrass your kids like it's like is it worth the dollar at that stage like no I think when you have kids it's not look I was I was a clown for so long too I get it but like

When you have kids, you don't want to embarrass them. But it's like, whatever. That aside, you think everyone there at the Staples Center for you. You're not going to have Catherine walk out with you. That's the whole reason. Your kids, all of that. It's so weird.

wild to me like how they get these egos and so many guys get this way I think it was Shay Carl I know that I'm like dating myself for so long there was a guy named Shay Carl who was like the whole thing was like I'm a family vlogger for Mormon do you remember him? he's a Mormon from Utah oh my god the Shay Tards Shay which what? crazy name and they called their kids like Princess Tard and like all this stuff yes I didn't remember the kids name oh Sun Tard like they were all like Tards what? and it was what you would think too it's obviously like the derogatory word you can't use anymore but it's like

That was their whole thing. And they would call their kids these. They would film their vlogs, everything, film their birth. But he thought he was the star. He went out and started talking to like a webcam model. And I was just like – Oh, I remember that. What is with these guys? Like you build your fame off of your being a lovely – like Ned too. That just came out with the Try Guys talking about Ned who's like I guess no longer with his wife I guess allegedly. Did you see that news? Oh, no. That was something.

It's like you're known and Ned would too was like the wife guy. Like, oh my God, the wife. Like if that is your whole thing, like how the audacity that you would think like going out and talking to another woman, they want you, people, no, nobody wants you. Austin McBroom didn't write a book. Would anyone care? Could you imagine his side, my side? It's like no one gives a fuck. No one cares about Austin McBroom.

really care. I didn't know much about Catherine. I wouldn't say I wouldn't care about her, but now I care about her because I was like, what the hell? Like, that's crazy. She was better than me. She was pregnant. She was pregnant when he was like cheating on her and all this stuff was happening and she had to like act like this was all, you know, they were happy and it was all this thing, but she...

I just, I hate men. Holly Madison just recently exposed this weekend her ex, Zach, from the Ghost Hunter show who just, what? She, like, yesterday in real time I was watching it. She was like, three girls have come forward with proof. Four. Five. The number's up to seven this morning. What?

The audacity of these men, these ugly men who literally have nothing going for them except for their spouse, except for their significant other. Holly and him were so public. She's so beautiful, so independent, has her third season of a TV show out currently right now. Like, all of this stuff. I'm like, how do these men find the time? How do they...

But you know, my theory is this. It's like the ugly ones, right? They get the fame, the money. It's like the Shay Carl, Austin McBroom, like Zach from Ghost Hunters. It's like they get these fame and then they get the girls throwing themselves at them because like, whatever, they're young girls. They want some of the fame. They want to feel like whatever. I get it. Whatever. I don't blame the girls. But it's like...

They cheat on these beautiful women because they feel like they're like so – they think these girls want them because they're like this hot commodity. It's like, no. They're just trying to get the clout from you. Like they want – they don't want you. You're ugly. You're disgusting. Like I just – I don't get these men. Like they're so dumb. I was so lucky. When you look at Catherine, you're just like, damn, that girl was like so beautiful. And you look at Austin and he just looks like a clown. You know what I mean? Like he just looks like a clown. Zach too. Zach old, hunting ghost at 50 years old.

And you're cheating on Holly Madison? What? With multiple... She's calling him out. She showed Costco. She goes, when he cheats in bulk. You know what I mean? And it's just like, these men. I just... I hate... I hate cheaters so much. Especially with these public relationships. It's like, get a divorce. Separate.

Be honest. Catherine was like blindsided. She was just like, I had no idea. Like I know to us it's like, oh, wow. Yeah, that was obvious. But it's like she probably was like, what the hell? Like at the height of your fame, you're making millions of dollars off being a family and you're really going to cheat? Stupid. Those are people that those downfalls you're like good, honestly. Be better. Do the downfall of that. You have children.

We want that. That's what we need. I want to see the downfall of all of it. Yes, go ahead. Having children and to do that, like I can't imagine, Catherine, like you have kids, you're pregnant, like you have a family, you have a life. That's crazy. And you become successful. And it probably worked hard to get to that point. And then she's like, suddenly you're left alone with like, that's just, to me, it's like you have kids. I don't know what, it doesn't matter what your obsession or addiction is. You need to get rid of it because like, I don't know, like the

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The children is right there. To rather have some stranger woman than hanging out with your kids. Like that's time you could spend with your kids. You know,

That's something that never computes. You're very right. And on that note, Joe Goldberg, because he didn't care about his kid. I love him so much. I love him so much. I'm like, okay, why are you at the bookstore with Bronte? You are so right. Oh my God. At the end, he's like, my son, I can't take him away. What? You haven't seen your son.

And now you're sad when you're about to, when you're naked and Bronte doesn't want to have sex with you anymore. Now you're like my son. When all you care, you didn't even tell Bronte. All I care about is you. You're my number one priority. What about poor little Henry over there? Him too. He is a cheater. You're right. Honestly, more guys should not have a penis, I feel. I feel when you cheat, you should get your penis card taken away. Just a little piece of it each time. You know what I mean? Then let's see how many of those women want you. Let's see how big and bad you are. You know what I mean? Oh my God.

Every time you cheat, you lose an inch. Yeah. Love that. That part. All right. Oh, my God. Wow. Oh, my God. You're right. That rocked your world, that revelation. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. How do you have a kid and you got him back from his dad's and you have this like wife that's taking care of him that's like the mother. Like you really are going to give it all up for Bronte. Someone who was catfishing you. You dumbass. Oh, my God. That makes me so mad. I hate him.

Crazy. Well, that's it. Moral of the story, Joe Goldberg. Yeah. You're right. He is the worst. I was thinking about that, too. And then we were talking about the Kayla situation. I was like, you know what? He was kind of awful. Yeah, what's worse? I mean, he's both, but a serial killer or a serial cheater? He's both. And absentee father. Damn. Triple homicide. We need Pumbaj down here to discuss further his thoughts about this character that were never on paper. Yeah.

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