Glauc Talk: How Would The Neurologist Fix an Internet Outage
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I feel like Preston, your voice is more recognizable, so you should start. Okay. So we have 90 seconds. Our producer said we have to run the clock out and tell everyone what the trailer is. We also talk too much and get off basis, but I don't think we'll do that in 90 seconds. But what is this podcast about? Margaret and I are starting a podcast. We're psych residents. And also I run a TikTok channel. And I do too. Westwell. I do POV skits of stuff in the hospital, but that's not important right now. Because what's important is we're going to be talking about...

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How to be patient. How to be patient pod dot. Come on over to the podcast website. Knock knock. Hi. Hello, everybody. Welcome to knock knock. Hi. With the Glockenfleckens. I am Dr. Glockenfleckens, better known, actually lesser known as Will Flannery. I am Lady Glockenfleckens.

Is it better, lesser, or equal known as Kristen Flannery? Thank you for joining us for an episode of Glock Talk, where the Glocks talk. We talk. Talk Glock. I've got two unrelated questions for you here at the top. Oh, okay. The first one is, have you ever heard of this fact? Well, it's not a fact, but it's a statement. Have you ever heard this statement? Women see more colors than men. Hmm.

I don't know if I've heard that exact statement. I am of the impression that women are just better with color than men, but I don't know if that's because of a vision itself or something else. Well, so partially, but first of all, that statement's false. I had actually never heard of that. And then I saw something...

On social media, like about that, like, you know, women just see more colors than men, which is not true because in order to see more colors, you'd have to have like a wider visual spectrum and your rods and cones don't work that way.

Would you not just have to have different kinds of cones or more cones? Is that what you mean by wider visual spectrum? Yeah, you'd have to have a different type of cone that saw a different wavelength of light than our visible spectrum of light, which is like 400 to 700 nanometer wavelengths. Does this come from the notion that more men are colorblind than women? Yes, this is partially true, yes. So,

When we're looking at the red-green axis, that's where most colorblindness is, is on the red-green type of cones. Some women, not all women, some women have a variant of a gene that actually gives heightened sensitivity to red and green shades. Interesting. Yeah. And it's called tetrachromatic. So you're like a tetrachromat if you're a person that can see, have more sensitivity to different shades. Yeah.

Tetra would mean four, would it not? Yeah. So then we still just have, you just said we have heightened sensitivity for red and green. I don't know why it's called tetrachromatic. Because we still just have, we're still trichromatic, right? Right. You're still, it's just like the fourth is like, you're just better at a particular tri.

One of those types of colon is more sensitive. It's just more sensitive. And the reason is because... That's misleading. The reason is because you have that gene and you also have two X chromosomes.

So you have like two, you have just more of that, whatever protein that gene encodes, you have more of it. Yeah. That gives you heightened sensitivity. But only for red-green. Only on the red-green axis, yeah. Hmm. I wonder if I have that. How do you know if you have it? I guess you don't. You probably have to have genetic testing, but why? Because it's fun.

And yeah, because men are much, much more likely to have colorblindness because we only have one X chromosome.

And that's where the... So it's like the inverse of tetrachromatic of this mutation, right? You only have one X chromosome and maybe something is messed up on the red-green gene on your one X chromosome. Exactly. But we have two X chromosomes and then something is like... Added. Heightened on one of our X chromosomes or both. Both, I guess. Yeah, it'd be both. So you have just more of it. So anyway, that's...

That's the only major difference in color perception between men and women. That feels like opposite sides of the same coin. It's interesting. Kind of the same mechanism, but in opposite directions. It makes sense. It does make sense because most of colorblind disorders are X-linked. So they're linked to the sex chromosomes. Right.

Anyway, that's why most men have it. So in this gene mutation, is it a mutation? No, it's a variant on a specific gene. So not only do you have, but all women have two. And so for some women, the gene on both of your chromosomes is just better.

That's right. Okay. Yeah. You're just awesome. You're just like Christmas comes around and you are just, man, you are nailing the chartreuse or- You don't even know the colors. I don't know the colors. You know, but I'm thinking I'm probably just as good as you are. Oh, no, you aren't. No? Really? That's what you think? I'm just saying that to get you riled up. Oh, okay.

I'm good at color. I was going to say, do you think I have this? Because I'm pretty good at color. Okay, well, the shirt you're wearing, I would say, is blue. What? It's like light blue. It's light blue, right? It is most definitely not. It's a...

Yeah, it's a... No, it's gray? It's gray. Oh, it's gray. It's gray. Okay. It's very gray. It's the light from the window. It makes it look a little bit blue. Well, sure. Daylight is a blue color. It makes it a little bit look blue. But then I look down here and it's definitely gray. Yeah. It is a cool undertone gray. And it's being lit by daylight, which is a cool toned light. I'm really glad we're talking about this topic because right before...

uh we started recording yeah i decided to do this like separately from you you were like oh did you hear what the the color of the year is color of the year 2025 so you say that like i'm supposed to know what pantone is so disappointed that you don't people know this this is nobody know okay do you know is a color company it's like the color company it's like a company for the color naturally occurring colors are you done okay go ahead

It's a color. It's a company that is sort of the gold standard for describing colors. Okay. And it's useful. You think this is nonsense because you're a doctor and you don't ever think about this stuff. But think about designers. Okay. You know, people like the fashion industry, the beauty industry, graphic design, interior design. Like for a lot of people.

It is a reference point. I want to hear from our audience. Have you heard of Pantone? It's a company. You said Pantone. P-A-N-T, like pants? O-N-E. Own. Pantone. Okay. Or Pantone. Oh, Pantone. That's what it is. As in all color. I really thought it was like pants. My own pant. Pantone.

Not two pants. Not multiple pants. One pant. Just a pant. That is how it's spelled. Single pant. Pant one. So pantone. That makes more sense. Pantone. All right. So what's the color of the year? Mocha moose. Can you show it to me real quick? Okay. This is not good for a listening experience. All right. So it's brown. It's a brown. It's brown. I would call it kind of a mushroom brown. See?

What do you mean mushroom brown? Mushrooms are like white. They're all kinds of colors. They are. You're correct. Mushroom brown, please. Mushroom in the color world, I would say is kind of a taupe.

Which is a type of violet? No. Pink. Brown. Taupe? Yes. Damn. Are you thinking of mauve or mauve? Oh, sure. Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Mauve. Is it mauve? I don't know. I've heard it both ways. Mauve. I've heard it both ways, though, and I don't know which one is correct. All right, so anyway, mocha mousse, that is just straight up brown. I would say this is...

It's hard. It's a very... It's poop brown. No, it's not. It's a very... Is that a color from Pantone? I doubt it. Fecal matter. Fecal brown? Urine yellow? Ew. Bile green? Oh, yeah. Blood red. They probably have those. Blood red's a thing. There is a red called oxblood. It's actually kind of a brown, too. It's like a brownish red or a reddish brown.

I want to be in the room when they're trying to come up with the names for these. Because oxblood is no different than any other blood. It's just blood. I mean, I don't know where it originated. Oxblood. But then that specific shade of red slash brown got named oxblood. I respect what these people are trying to do over at Pantone. Just comes off a little pretentious. That's all.

But it doesn't. Because it's only pretentious if you think it's frivolous and not useful in any way, which makes you come off as pretentious. Because it's like, oh, I'm in healthcare. What I do is actually important. I'm not saying that at all. I said I respect what they do. But then you called it pretentious. So no, you don't. You just negated yourself. Have I...

Have I tanked our opportunity to get a Pantone sponsorship? Probably, which is a real bummer. Pantone, listen. Look, I just want to know where Oxblood comes from. Like, how do you come up? I want to know how you come up with the names. That's all. Because they're very unique.

I mean, that mocha mousse, that's brown. It's brown. It's just brown. But there are many shades of brown. Like light brown and dark brown. And there's cool undertones. There are warm undertones. There is hue. There is, oh, geez, I didn't study for this. Contrast. There's saturation. Saturation is a good one. Like this is a soft brown. It's a medium brown. It's not light. It's not dark. It's kind of a medium soft brown.

Okay. And I kind of want to say it might have kind of cool undertones in it. I mean, brown is a warm color, but you can have a warm color that has cool undertones. Okay. So do you know what AI says about the difference between men and women in color perception? What? Says that women may have evolved...

to have better color perception than men, to help them distinguish between safe and poisonous berries and fruits. I have heard that theory before. Because women were the gathering and were hunting. Right. If you buy into that. I feel like...

Probably everyone did a little bit of everything. I have no idea. I don't know how that could. I mean, I don't know. Maybe. Who knows? I don't know. It's interesting to wonder about, though. I mean, I think in the modern world, typically women are better at color than men. But I don't know that that's. I mean, clearly it's not.

a biological difference. It's more of like maybe we're just socialized to be more attuned to it or we have more opportunities to practice distinguishing them. Google AI says men are better at processing contrast and rapid movements. I don't know what that means exactly. Why would that be? Is this the hunting hypothesis? But is that true? Differences in testosterone levels cause different organization of neurons in the visual cortex of men and women.

I certainly believe in the possibility that hormonal differences can change vision perception. Yeah, hormones do all sorts of things. They do all kinds of crazy stuff. Yeah. I don't know. Interesting. I feel like I... And I know this is... You're not supposed to do this in science, right? But anecdotally, my N of one of myself...

I'm pretty good at noticing little quick movements. You know, if a spider moves on the floor across the room, it catches my attention immediately. I think that's anxiety. Who knows what that is? You're always searching for threats. I am always searching for threats. All right. Second question for you. The world is full of threats. Second question. Can we move off of Pantones? Do we have to?

I really do want to hear, am I the only person in the world who has never heard of Pantone? It's a big deal. It makes the news when Pantone puts out their color of the year. Like it'll be on the Today Show and stuff like that. I mean, it's not like serious, heavy news, but it is a thing. I believe you. Okay. I want to know if you remember your old personal statement. Oh, I try not to. I bet it's awful. Do you remember anything you said in it?

Because this comes up usually around application time and the match day is going to be coming soon. And so sometimes you see people talk about how they reread their personal statement 10 years later. Oh, that would be... You would have to pay me a lot of money to go back and read that thing. It would be painful for me too. It would be really painful. I probably talked about coming from...

A rural... A rural area where education was...

subpar. That's a good one. And then working my way up to Dartmouth is where I was applying. And how excited you are about research and scientific discovery. Probably. Because I definitely put that in my research. Super cringy. Yeah, you hate research and you're like, well, I'll just put it in. That's what I'm supposed to say. No, so much of that is part of personal statements for like higher education. And like, this is, it's stupid how we do these personal statements. Like,

Do they still do them? Yeah, they still do them. And it's still like, what are your goals for your career? Like, no one knows. Right. I have no idea. You want to know my honest goals? My honest goals are to be able to make a living for myself and not hate what I do every single day. You can't say that. Exactly. I think it should change. We should just change the goal. Like, I think it's great to have

Like a writing sample of something in your life. Like, I think that's really good because it helps to personalize the application. Right. Okay. So why can't it just be like a story? Usually their stories are involved. Like you always tell something about your life, but why do we have to like say something that explains something?

Why does it always have to relate to like your purpose for why you want to do this program? Yeah. I mean, I can kind of see it from the admissions committee perspective of like, you know, everyone wants to be able to make a living and not hate what they do. So why do you want to make a living doing this specifically? But the thing is, in my mind, you're already applying.

You are going through the time and money and education, the prerequisites to get to this point where you can apply to this thing. Right. I think... So I've been on the other end of these things sometimes. Not for medical schools, obviously, but just applications in general. And usually...

What I have been looking for when I have to be on those committees is, does it seem like this person is really actually interested and passionate and committed to this thing in addition to having talent in it?

or does it seem like their parents are making them do this, for example, or they just don't know what else to do, but they don't really care that much, so they're probably going to end up dropping out after year two or whatever. Because when you have so many people applying for the same thing and they are all, to your point, they are all qualified or they wouldn't be applying, you have to have some distinguishing measure. But I feel like if you're

If that's the goal for the personal statement, you're going to start, you're going to have people trying to tell the committee what they want to hear. Of course, but here's the thing. The committee is not stupid. They know when you're doing that.

They hear 3,000 times the same thing, then they know that that's just the thing that everyone thinks they're supposed to say. What actually stands out in applications is when you don't say those things. Because then it's like, oh, this one's different. When you say, I just want a stable job. I just want to pay back my loans. I don't know that I would advise that, but it would certainly catch their attention.

It would be different. Yeah, I didn't know you were on a committee. You've read, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, I've been on hiring committees and student applications for, you know, different programs and stuff. I was never on that as a resident. They didn't trust me enough to select. Rightly so, probably. You'd have some ridiculous criteria just to amuse yourself. Yeah.

Get a lot of good content out of it. But I don't envy people that do that because I know in meds, like residency programs, especially like the top programs, very highly competitive specialties get a thousand applications. Right. It's nuts. So I was...

So in a previous job, there was a program that high school students would apply to, and it was a very prestigious and competitive program. And I was one of the people making decisions about who gets accepted and who doesn't. And so what you do in those cases, we would get thousands and thousands of applications for like 35 spots. Wow.

So you first do anything automated you can do to filter out, like, you know, anybody who's got an SAT score below whatever. Yeah. You have to have some kind of cutoff. You got to. Just for sheer numbers. There's just not enough resources to evaluate. Now with AI, it might, maybe this will all be a little bit different. I don't know, because now there are, you know, better resources. Find the right people. Yeah. AI.

That would be interesting to see if that actually could work. But anyway, so we would filter out anything we could automatically, and then we would go through, and we would just like the people that you can just tell, the ones that are kind of like everyone else, and then the ones that rise above in one way or another. The way in which they rise above is individual, but it stands out to you. How quickly do you read?

a personal statement whenever you're having to... You skim. You skim it, right? Yeah. Which is another thing. Like if you're telling me all the buzzwords, I'm just skimming right over that. Don't even bother writing it. And then if it's a personal statement where you find yourself like reading every word of it, you know. Yeah, then you're like, okay, this guy. Like there was one student one year who had, he was homeschooled by his parents and they sailed around the world on a sailboat.

That was part of his education. Like, they incorporated that into his curriculum. Right? Like, that makes you go, wow, interesting. I want to hear more about that. Yeah. You know. And whether the parents went to jail or not. Yeah.

For homeschooling? From us on a sailboat? Well, if you're still doing the curriculum. I'm just kidding. I'm sure it's fine. Clearly, it was a smart kid because they're applying to this prestigious program. Right. Did you guys accept it? Accept that one? I think he did. I think we did accept him, but I don't think he accepted us. Oh.

Ooh. Yeah. Really? Because some of these kids get accepted into multiple of the same kind of program. This whole different world of giant, super smart kids doing summer programs? Yeah. Interesting.

That's become the thing, you know, I think what we see in med school with like step scores being pass fail and then you have to do other things to distinguish yourself. It trickles all the way down to high school too. Like that same kind of thing is going on in high schools. So a lot of kids would apply to step scores. Well, now we know the blueprint. Yeah. Sail around the world while you're teaching your kids. No big deal. Get in wherever you want. All right, let's take a break.

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All right, we are back and have a new segment, a new game for us to play. Okay. I like games. I don't have a good name for this. So we have to come up with this. But this is something that I think we can probably do more than once. Okay. How would Glockenfleck and Cinematic Universe characters solve everyday problems? Okay. So basically you give me a character and you give me like just...

Like, can't find your car keys. Mm-hmm. How would the psychiatrist deal with that? Okay. And these are not like actual psychiatrists. These are like my character. Your character. My version. Your stereotype. Yes, exactly. Exaggerated characters. All right. What do you think? Okay. Ready? Let's do it. Okay. So give me a character and, or give me the scenario that they're reacting to. Okay. Or trying to solve and then give me the character. Okay.

Uh, I'm just going to pick like everyday issues that are top of mind cause they happen to us. Okay. Um, okay. So last night our internet went out. So internet goes out. Okay. All right. Um, how does the neurologist deal with it? Okay. All right. The neurologist solving an internet outage. That's right. We're just, okay. I don't know if he has to solve the outage, but he is, his internet has gone out. Now what? Okay. So,

So the first thing he's got to do is he's got to try to identify the lesion. Okay. Usually that involves an extensive physical exam, but I don't know if a reflex hammer can get a lot done or like two-point discrimination or asking the router questions. Okay.

Might interrogate the router. That's like an actual thing you do with checking the internet. Yeah, just like go see what's going on down there. Yeah. Chat with the AI bot. And probably be absolutely like merciless, like ridicule.

That's what would happen. So he'd call the, you know, do a physical exam on the system. You know, check the Ethernet cables. Yep. Check the connection, make sure it's plugged in. Can't figure out where the lesion is. So he'll, in lieu of ordering an MRI on this.

on the, on the system, uh, call the internet company and, uh, be, uh, and be a bit condescending. Yeah. Talk about how, uh, um, you know, accuse the, the customer service representative of running out of neurotransmitters, um, of not knowing where the routers neurotransmitters are in the system. And, um,

though he would get it done and also end up receiving a discount on his bill. Just to allow themselves to stop having to talk to this man. Yeah. Exactly. If it's fiber optic internet, that's, you know, those cables, that's kind of like the nervous system. Yeah, that's true. That's very, that was a good one. That was a good, that was a good connection between the two. But yet, I think you hit the nail on the head though, that the, the internet, Xfinity or Verizon, whoever it is, would give the,

the neurologist whatever he wanted so they would never have to talk to him again. Yep. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. There you go. Okay, that's a good one. All right. Okay. Give me another one. Another one. Oh, okay. So you know how kids learn math differently these days? Like we learned it one way and then at some point they completely overhauled how math curriculum gets taught. It's been a big...

issue in our house. Yes, because we've got... I try to solve... Kids in elementary school learning math. Long division one way, and apparently that's not the way they're taught to do it now. Right. And it's... I don't know about you, but I can't always follow when you're just seeing the kids' homework, right? I can't always follow the chicken scratch to figure out what it is that...

Anyway, so you got to deal with that. You got to help your kid with math homework, but they have learned it completely differently than you. All right. What doctor am I? And you are the anesthesiologist. Okay. Well, I think this is another good pairing because anesthesiologists are very cool and comfortable in stressful situations. And math homework...

Sometimes there's- There's tears. There's tears. There's yelling involved. Yes, lots of protesting. The question is, in this situation, what is the surgeon and what is the patient? So is the child the surgeon? Because in some ways that would make a lot of sense. Yeah. A bit of a hot temper. Yeah.

Only concerned with life as they see it. Yes. They want it done a certain way and are not able to explore other potential solutions.

Okay. And the math problem being the patient, right? That would make sense. Yes. They're trying to dissect this patient. Yeah, they're trying to dissect, but they come from a different perspective than the surgeon. Mm-hmm.

Uh, and their perspective is not wrong unless you're the surgeon who understands that it is wrong. The anesthesiologist knows that there's maybe a couple of different ways to come at this. Okay. Uh, but the surgeon doesn't see it that way. Right. Um, the bed has to be at a particular height. Yeah. And the anesthesiologist doesn't care. Doesn't matter to him. Doesn't matter. Whatever, whatever gets the surgery done. Yeah. You know?

And so I think the patients of the anesthesiologists in the midst of high stress, anxiety filled situation would very calmly and comfortably figure out a way to...

solve this math problem that is acceptable to the surgeon, otherwise known as the child. Question. Yes. Would he be doing Sudoku well? Oh, well, he'd certainly have to take a break. Okay. Like 15 minutes, like let's take a break, go get some coffee. Yeah.

Chat a little bit. Check investment portfolio. Some bank account stuff. Then go back to it. Maybe do a little crossword while the kid's trying to figure out what nine times seven is. While the surgeon's doing their thing. While the surgeon's doing their thing, exactly. And then eventually it'll be time to wake the patient up.

and you go on to the next problem. So there you go. I like that. That's good. Is that how you feel you handle it when our kids need your help with meth? Oh, I am definitely not an anesthesiologist. I should have said ophthalmologist. I am much more, it's like a surgeon and another surgeon. So it doesn't, we don't, I try my best to,

But I also have a very one-track mind. And I want my kid to do it the way that I think is most efficient and the best way to do it, which is the way I learned. But it's not necessarily the way the kid learned, so it's hard. It's also not necessarily the most efficient. It's just the way you know how to do it. Oh, it's the correct way. Okay. Absolutely correct. Yep. I don't know what they're teaching these kids these days. Yeah.

All right, give me one more. Okay, good one. Your toilet is clogged. Another thing that happened yesterday. Yes. See, I'm telling you. I had to have a conversation with the kiddos. The surgeon clogged the toilet. No, it wasn't me. No, in the previous... Oh, yeah, that's right. I had a...

I'm very good about not clogging toilets. I had to have a talk with the kids about the concept of multiple flushes. Yes. They use way too much toilet paper. Yeah, that's a separate problem. So we can't get them to not do that. So the compromise is, okay, then just flush more often. Yeah, right. Anyhow, they're going to love that we're discussing this. Absolutely. When they're older and hear this. So your toilet is clogged and you are internal medicine.

Well, this actually goes well because an internist is... One type of internist would be a gastroenterologist. Oh, okay. Who would first peer into the toilet and examine the health of the stool. Sure. What's that chart? Oh, what is that chart called? Yeah, there's a chart that...

like the shape and size and consistency of the stool and like how Bristol, the Bristol, the Bristol stool chart. So yeah, one of those. Yes. And then as we know from my videos, internists are not the, the quickest decision makers. Okay. And so they will present the,

A differential diagnosis on why the toilet was clogged. Mm-hmm. Could be a number of reasons. Put it forward as a hypothesis. Too much toilet paper. Mm-hmm. Too much other things. Mm-hmm. Toilet not working right. Mm-hmm. Tree roots in your plumbing. Tree roots in your plumbing. Septic tank overflowing. Act of God. I don't know. Mm-hmm.

Uh, the little handle, the, the thing that lifts the, the flapper. Uh-huh. Got, I guess that's broken. I don't think that would clog your toilet. I think it would just prevent it from flushing. That's true. Um, bugs. Oh, that's, that's out there. Don't tell me you've never been scared that something's going to swim up. I never think it'd be a bug. I think it'd be a snake. Okay. Snake. Snake.

Snakes in your pipes. Snakes in your pipes. Pipe snakes. Toilet snakes. That should have been the sequel to Snakes on a Plane. Snakes in your pipes. Snakes in your toilet? Yeah. I think toilet snakes is a good thing. Anyway. And then after deliberating on the potential causes of this problem, they would come up with a course of action that...

is just plunging it. There you go. What if plunging it doesn't work, though? Like, what if that's... Plunging's not going to do anything. If you've got snakes in your pipes, you're just going to get a snake bite. If plunging doesn't work, if first line doesn't work, then you refer the toilet to the university. I'm good at this. All right. Is that when you call the plumber? Is that the university? Exactly. Exactly.

Send it up the chain a bit. All right. All right. Let's take one more break. Hey, Kristen. Yeah. I know you're a big fan of Demodex mites. Uh-huh. You know, the eyelid mites? Yeah. They're on your eyelid? Uh-huh. They're just right there in your eyelid? Yeah. Thank you. Well, what if they flew at you? Oh, God. What if they jumped? Stop. What if they jumped?

Would that bother you even more? Oh, it'd be even worse. Would that be better? Jumping bugs are always worse. Well, I have good news for you. They're not jumping. They don't jump at you. But they are there and they can cause like crusty, flaky, itchy, red. That's not good. Irritated eyelids. So I can tell you're a little bit grossed out. Yeah. It's a disease. It's called demodexblepharitis. It sounds like no fun. But it's pretty common. And a lot of people don't really know about it. Yeah.

But I mean, these like, they are kind of cute. I gotta admit, just a little, just a little cute. Maybe a little cute. Regardless, you shouldn't get grossed out by this. You should get checked out. Okay. Go to eyelidcheck.com for more information. Again, that's E-Y-E-L-I-D check.com to get more information about these little guys and Demodex blepharitis. All right, my final segment for you today. Okay.

I want to try to do this for most of our Glock Talk episodes. Okay. Because I think we got a lot of material. Okay. I call it parenting rounds. Oh, yeah. So just like on rounds, you present a patient. Uh-huh. Well, in this case, our patient is a parenting thing. Okay. So when you're on rounds, you're presenting the patient, but to what end?

Oh, just, I mean, you're trying to take care of them, the patient. So you're discussing the best course of action on rounds? Yeah, yeah. Here we're just either telling like a thing that taught us about parenting or a difficult situation that we had to navigate. Parenting case study. There you go. Parenting case study. Parenting rounds. That's what this is. All right.

This, what I have for you, and if you have one, then we can hear yours as well. Gee, thanks. I don't want to put you on, you're always mad when I put you on the spot. Well, that is true. That's true. Can't have it both ways here. Okay. Okay. Fair enough. But mine is the concept of carpool eavesdropping. So this is something I learned recently. I'm sure you probably knew about this long before me.

The fact that if you're in a car with your, we have a 12 year old daughter. Almost 13. Almost 13. So preteen, if you're in there, she's at the age where she doesn't like to talk about her life that much. Right. Right. It's hard to get her to kind of open up about, you know, just anything, anything happening in her life. Right. Right.

But what I figured out was if you're the parents that like do a lot of the carpooling, transporting the 12-year-old and the gaggle of 12-year-old girls or 12-year-old boy or whoever it is. That is the key. You got to have the gaggle. The gaggle. You got to get them together. Gaggle's got to be in the car. Get a big old car. Get your minivan. This is another good thing about the minivan. I pushed back on the minivan. I told you. Good idea. Good idea.

You get them together. And then you as the parent, if you try to be as invisible as possible, so you don't move too much, you just drive. You don't say anything. Don't call attention to yourself. Don't chime in. You just listen. Just listen. You will hear things about your child's life.

You will hear things that you otherwise it would be hard to hear. That's right. Like, uh, they would never offer up. They would never voluntarily like, you know, even just like simple stuff, like the types of music she likes to listen to the, uh, her favorite song these days, her favorite, her, the what's going on in class. Uh, you know, the teachers she doesn't like, um, well,

Whatever. Usually at 12 years old, it's not deep stuff they're talking about. They're not talking about deep things. But it's just, I don't need that. Sometimes you might hear about crushes. Yeah. Who's got a crush on who. That's the kind of stuff I want to hear about. You need to know. And I think it's also good that somebody in your child's friend group, some parent, has an idea of what's going on.

Right? Yes. So it's the coolest thing because it's like they forget you're there. It's like you disappear. How? Why? I know. What is the psychology here? Because is it- You're sitting seven feet away from them, even if they are as far away from you as they can get. I'm not trying to hide from them. Right. I'm in plain sight. Exactly. I'm a large band. I can't hide. But it's like you're not even there and they'll just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.

And I just sit there and listen. It's a magic trick. And I learn things. Yeah. That's great. It makes me rethink my own childhood, though. Oh, yeah. Because I think when I was at, like, you just think they're not listening for some reason. Right. Yeah. But of course they're listening. Of course. Exactly.

And, but it's like kind of bittersweet coming to this conclusion because once they become driving age, it's like, it's all. Yeah. You only have a few. There's a window, just a few years there where you can do all this. We're going to be taking a lot of road trips. With our friends. Oh God. Actually, I don't know. Maybe not a road trip, but you know, outing. Long trips. Yes. Things where you need to drive somewhere. At least 30, 45 minutes an hour.

I really give them plenty of time. I want to know what you learned. You'll have to tell me off air if you learned anything good. Yeah, I'll tell you later. But I also, because I mentioned this on Blue Sky, and I got a good tip from somebody. They said if you, because what they'll do is if I have the music on, it's sometimes hard to hear them because they'll like talk softly. Turn it on back there. Put it on the back speakers so they have to talk louder.

Oh, man. Genius. That's somebody who's been through the ranks already. I know. I know. And I did get one person that was like, told me that I was a bad parent. Oh, please.

No. What are you supposed to do? Put in like noise canceling headphones to give them their privacy? Well, the guy was like, well, do you read your daughter's diary? That is not the same. Like not the same thing. Right. This is public. She sees you're there. Right. She's choosing to say things in front of you. I can't help it if I hear it. Right.

I'm not coercing anything. And what am I going to do? Be like, oh, children, I also love Taylor Swift. Let me tell you what I think about. People are like, oh, maybe you should just talk with your daughter. No, they don't want that. They don't want you. That's coming from someone who doesn't have a preteen daughter. That's got to be true and never has. Yep, yep, yep, yep. They do not want to be. They don't want to, anyway.

Made aware that you are there. And for the love of God, do not let your friend know. If they invite you to chime in, that's something different. But no, you got to be invited into the conversation. Yeah. You are a shameful blight on their social life. Myself included. Parents, right? Until told otherwise. That's right. That's right.

Parenting is fun. It's so fun. It's the best. It's an enriching life experience. All right. Well, we'll do that again next time. All right. Just parenting rounds each time. I already have like three or four other ones that I could do. So we'll save it for next time. Thank you all for that. That's it. That's our episode. That's Glock Talk for today.

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