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Glauc Talk: Revisiting Dr. Glaucomflecken’s First Satirical Articles

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Lady Glockenflecken: 我对医疗机构重复要求填写相同信息的文书工作感到不满。我认为这既不尊重我的时间,也浪费了预约时间。如果他们只是要问我问题,为什么还要我填写纸质表格?我决定不再填写纸质表格,除非他们已经尽力将信息电子化。 Dr. Glaucomflecken: 我理解这种不满,但信息冗余在一定程度上是为了满足MIPS的要求,以避免医疗机构的经济处罚。虽然电子健康记录应该提高效率,但有时反而导致重复劳动。 Neen42: 我完全同意Kristen的观点,医疗机构应该直接读取我的图表,而不是重复询问我已经填写过的信息。 LindseyK3914: 我认为信息冗余的主要原因是办公室需要为了MIPS的目的而掩盖自己的尾巴。为了满足MIPS的要求,他们会采取一些措施,以避免减薪。然而,这通常意味着冗余,这很烦人。

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Hello, everybody. Welcome to Knock Knock High with the Glockenfleckens. I am Dr. Glockenflecken, also known as Will Flannery. I am Lady Glockenflecken, also known as Kristen Flannery. I did another event where someone thought my name was Dr. Glockenflecken. Yes. I think more people think it's your name than people who don't think it's your name. I keep saying this. People don't know your real name. Let's just go to the courthouse. Get it changed. We'll get it changed.

I don't know about that. I don't agree with that. I think it's all right to let them think that it is your name. Sure. So it's been a while since we recorded together. Yes, it has. And already my body's falling apart. It is. You thought you were younger than you are this weekend. I pulled a muscle in my back. You participated in some activities that an almost 40-year-old man should not be participating in. That's the thing. I...

I wrestle with our nine-year-old. Yes. Frequently. She likes to wrestle. She loves wrestling. She's a very physical, active kind of a kid. I think the problem was that I tried to jump into her style of Greco-Roman wrestling immediately after I was just laying down. Mm-hmm.

for for hours like watching watching football or something right and so i didn't i need to start warming myself up and i felt it i turned the wrong way i tried to body slam her into the bed and uh i i felt it just some something tore in my back and and now i'm now you're turtled i'm doing the hunched over walk like old man walk yeah but it's an improvement yesterday i

For the first part of the day, you were just on your back. It doesn't feel any better at all. Just pushing through it. I just end it all. I just...

It's terrible. And what? Just everything. I think you need to clarify. I don't know. I just, I'm like, I feel like, how am I going to go to work tomorrow? I don't know. I'll have to figure that out. Yeah. You know, I think that you should perhaps go to the doctor. This is why I wore a Jonathan shirt today, because I'm hoping that my scribe will carry me around clinic tomorrow. It is always a little weird to see you wearing a shirt with your own face on it. Yeah.

There's two of your face when I look at you. Oh, man. I just usually it's like my neck. Like that's when I'll like a muscle. I'll pull. This is the first like it's been a while, especially since I've been like working out more. I feel stronger, but I don't know. But it's, you know, been the holidays. I don't know how much did you work out? I'm decompensated since the holidays. Decompensated? Decomposing? Yes. My body has decompensated since the holidays.

But see, I'm supposed to be like well rested, ready to go for the year. And now it's like I feel worse than ever. Yeah. Great. Ready to go. Another year, everyone. Do you feel rested after the holidays? Rested? Is it a restful time for you? No. At all? I'm Santa Claus. Santa doesn't get to rest. That's true. No. Santa's also magical. Yes, and I am not. So...

You know, it's just another example of a woman doing all the work and a white man getting all the credit. It's just what it is. Of Santa Claus? Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. At least this year, this is the first year that they did not believe in Santa. Like, both of them. Everyone knows what the real deal is. But they still want to play the game. They still want to act like there's a Santa. That was surprising to me. Yeah. They're very attached to it. I've done a lot of work to make, like, some strong...

magic and tradition around the holidays. They didn't want to let that go. Putting out milk and cookies still, like, that was really important even though they know. And then I forgot to have Santa eat the cookies. Ugh! And she completely noticed it. The younger one just honed right in on that that Santa didn't eat the cookies. Santa's on a diet.

Oh, and she left out like, you know, I don't remember what it was, but something for the reindeer. The reindeer also didn't eat it. The carrots and celery. Yeah. Yeah. That's my job. Oh, eat the carrots and celery. I'll take the cookies.

All right. So since it's been a while since we recorded, I went through some of the comments on our YouTube channel. All these episodes are up on our YouTube channel at Glock and Fleckens. We try to go through some of those YouTube comments. I love the comments you guys leave, by the way. But I have an update on the last time we did a Glock talk that came out.

was you did a tirade about all the paperwork that you have to fill out. And what's the point of it all? Not what's the point of the paperwork, but why do we have to fill it out multiple times for the same people? When you're checking in for an appointment. Yeah. And then you fill it out and they just ask you the same questions once you get into the appointment. Right, that's what it was, yeah. So I have a couple of comments from people. Okay. All right, so the first one from Ava.

at Neen42, said, I'm with Kristen. Read my damn chart. Yeah. I already took the time to answer these.

So I wanted to give you that one. I thought that was good. The next one, at LindseyK3914 said, I wanted to comment about Kristen's comments about information. This doesn't sound like it's going to be good for me. No, it's fine. About information redundancy. I think the bulk of the issue is offices needing to cover their tails for MIPS purposes. What's MIPS? It's how Medicare basically decides how much they're going to pay like a medical practice and the physician.

Their money. So you have to meet certain criteria. And that's absolutely true, especially in our electronic health record. We have like checkboxes, things we have to like say that we have we have that information. OK, sure. But why do you need it twice? They put things in place to make sure that they meet MIPS requirements so they don't get a pay cut. However, it often means redundancy. It's annoying.

So it's just we have to have like an electronic version of these things. But why can't you take what I wrote and put it into your electronics? I do. No, they just asked me the questions again and put it in there while I'm in the appointment. Like, why do we not have people that are just entering this data? If you're going to make me go to the trouble of filling it out. I think they do, but it's done later. Like it's not in real time.

Okay, so I think what I've decided to do is I'm no longer going to be filling out paper forms. If they can hand them to me, then they've done their, but I'm not going to fill that out. Oh, they're going to love you. Yeah. I'm just not going to do it. I'm not doing this on principle. I'm not filling out your forms. I'm going to sit in the waiting room with my arms crossed. Just staring at everyone. No, I'm not doing this. Oh, you're filling out paperwork? Loser. Right? No.

As opposed to wasting my time filling out paperwork that doesn't matter. You're just sitting there, right? No, I have a child with me that I am trying to... Oh, right. These are like pediatric babies. Yes. Do you notice this whenever you go to the doctor personally? No. I don't know if I'm just not noticing or...

When I go to the doctor, the appointments are so fast that they don't have time to ask me the questions. So I feel like they then it's then I'm happy. I'm happy to fill. I'm happy to give you the answers to the questions you need. I just feel like it's disrespectful of my time and a poor use of an appointment.

to, in the waiting room, have me answer some questions on paper and then in the exam room answer the same questions while the doctor types it in. That's just inefficient and just a poor use of everyone's time. Okay. I agree. I agree. So if they're just going to ask me the questions anyway, why fill out the paper? Well, this kind of leads into our healthcare news because there's lots of people

In the health care system that are also fed up with the way things are done. And that has led people in the Providence health system to strike. So now by the time this comes out, maybe the strike will be over. But as of today, January 13th.

Yes. The the strike. So like a lot of the nurses, like thousands of nurses in the Providence system here in Oregon. Yes. Which is the system that we one of the systems that the largest the problem and use the Providence health health care system is the largest employer in all of Oregon. So that just gives you the scope of this situation.

And two main hospitals and then a few other smaller hospitals in the Portland area. Providence hospitals. Lots of nurses are striking. But the reason this is historic is because it's not just nurses this time. Right. There are about 125, something like that, physicians, hospitalists, internal medicine physicians who are also striking. Yeah. I think this is the first time that there's been...

physicians who have a physician union that's also joined into something like this yeah so um now they're four days in and there's been no negotiation talks and they're wanting it basically the the biggest issue is is something that comes up really frequently which is uh unsafe staffing levels yeah that's the biggest thing both nurses and physicians are are

you know, clued in on this as being a big safety issue for patients. And so Providence is reporting that everything's running smoothly. Yeah. We'll see how long that lasts.

I don't know. But my office is, one of my offices is right next to a Providence hospital. So I drive by and they're all holding their signs and chanting things. And that was the first day. I haven't been back since, but I saw the first day of striking. Yeah. There was a lot of people out there. Yeah. And it seems like Providence, yeah.

is trying to, you know, the PR spin for them is, is basically to make the doctors look bad, right? Like, how could you walk out on your patients? Kind of a philosophy. Well, you know, like they're trying to, to put that forth to the public. They're putting, they're putting the, the blame. Yeah. On, and not just physicians, but also the nurses and like, you know, they're,

They're wanting, I guess the quote I heard or saw from the Providence side of things was they're wanting all or nothing. Yeah. So saying that they're not willing to negotiate something, which, you know, who knows? Who knows? I mean, you're going to get.

It's bias on both sides, what kind of information you're going to get. But I tend to be skeptical of that kind of statement. Yeah. Also, we know that it's a huge problem everywhere, including Providence, the staffing issues, right? Like this is nothing new and it's something that everyone is already aware is going on. So for them to say like,

I don't know. I just feel like they don't have a very strong leg to stand on. Providence. How can you say that they're doubling down anyway? And how can you say like the other side wants all or nothing when there's been no negotiation so far? Well, there was negotiation before the strike.

There were months of negotiations. That's what led to the strike. The physicians and the nurses felt like Providence was not playing ball in those negotiations. A lot of people are paying attention to this. And so I'll give updates as I drive by and see them all. Maybe I'll go talk with them. Yeah. Ask them questions. Yeah, you should. You're there anyway. On my lunch break, I'll just walk out there and

And see if they want some pizza. I don't know. Because all health care workers love pizza. I don't know. Candy. How about candy? Candy's better. Keeps their energy level up. I guess so. Sure. Maybe some water. Bottles of water. Water. Get thirsty out there, I bet. Are there rules against that? Water?

You know, like the standing in line to vote. You can't give water in certain states. You can't? Wasn't that a thing? Like one of the southern states, like you're not allowed to. Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm did an episode on this. He got arrested. People cannot go give voters standing in line water? Yeah.

It was like a thing. Why? It was like a law. I think it was Georgia or something. Why would that ever be a problem? There was a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode about it. The whole last season arc was he got arrested and he had to stand trial. It was brilliant. It was genius. But yeah, that's like a thing. So who knows? Wasn't the last season?

season of seinfeld also they were standing trial that's how larry david likes to end his shows i guess that was part of like the meta kind of okay it was on purpose it was yeah it was very purposeful and i think it was a brilliant move because it's like kind of like a fu to all the critics who said that that that was a bad that was a bad way to end seinfeld well he just did it again i loved it right

All right. I've got a couple of fun things for us to do today. I figured let's not be too serious. Yeah. Because you and I, you know, we're always very, very serious. Yeah. So because we're getting back in the swing of recording, we still remember how to. It's been a few weeks, you guys. We took a break. Yeah. I think we still remember how to do this. I think so. Here we are. We've been doing it. We're like 10 minutes in. Yeah. All right. Hey, guess what, though? You've forgotten anniversary.

All right. No, I didn't. Yeah, you did. We've been married for 15 years. No, not that anniversary. Anniversary of? This podcast. This, oh, two years? Two years. Has it been two years? Yes. I know we just had 100 episodes not too long ago. Yeah, well, now we have our two-year mark. Two years. Yeah. Our podcast is a toddler. Yes. It's maybe potty training. A temperamental toddler. Yeah. Yeah.

Three was harder, though. With a bad back. It's still cute. With a bad back. All right. Well, congrats to you. And you. Yeah. So there you go. We've done a good job? I hope so. That was a question. Did we? Have we? I think so. I guess the listeners will tell us. Let's take a break, and then I'm going to ask this question to you. Have I gotten funnier? Oh. So let's take a break. Be right back.

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Okay, so...

Here's the origin of this topic, because I was like, you know, wouldn't it be funny if I went back on Facebook, as far back as I could go? Yeah, like back to college. Yeah, and see what our posts were like. Oh, yeah.

Oh, no, I don't think I want to. Unfortunately, it was actually not that easy to do. It was like the earliest posts were all like other people saying things to me. Like I couldn't see my own thoughts, my own post from like 2008. Did you consider that you probably didn't make many? No, I did.

You did? I feel like you're more of a lurker. I was at first, yes. But I do remember writing things. I remember commenting on your Facebook thing. We had some back and forth. I thought that was mostly on AIM. It was initially, but then we did have some Facebook things. Oh, okay. God, I wish I had those AIM conversations still. Oh, man. Is there a way to get those back? I have no idea. I don't even remember...

How to log in. AOL Instant Messenger. Tried to explain that. It's not, honestly, not that different from iMessage. I was explaining it to our daughter. Yeah. It was texting before there was... Just much cooler. Smartphones. So anyway, the point is, like, I couldn't find anything that was really useful on, like, old Facebook. It used to be, like, when you'd write a post, it would be, like, Will Flannery is...

And then you'd write something. Right. And the third person about yourself. Very limiting. And how you could like say things on the internet. And it just, so it just wasn't interesting, but I was like, okay, what could I, maybe I could, we could share some of like the first jokes, the first things that I was doing as Glockenflecken. Cause I don't know if you know this. I mean, you know this, but if the people don't know this,

I started Glockenfleck and it was my pseudonym when I was writing satire articles for a website called Gomer blog. That's right. It's, it's the onion for medical professionals. That was never anywhere near as popular as the onion, but it had its heyday among medical professionals. Yeah. And everybody picked a name to write under and nobody picked their own name by the way, because Glockenfleck,

Of course, this was like 2000. It was during residency. So it was like somewhere between 2014 and. Yeah. So actually 2015 was my when my first article was published. Yeah. But back then it was like, oh, doctors can't be funny. There were no funny doctors who were themselves and their real name on social media because that was all scary and you would get fired. Well, not only doctors can't be funny, but doctors can't be writing on the Internet. Yeah. Unless you're writing doctor stuff. Right.

Right, right. You couldn't, you know, you couldn't do the satire thing. It was, you know, so anyway. And so let people know you're a real person. Right, right. But I so I was writing under the name Dr. Glockenflecken, but it was only it wasn't on social media. It was just these articles. So I went through my old articles and I just thought I would give you the titles of the articles. OK. And keep going until you laugh.

Oh, no. Okay. Okay. I feel like you need to give the people, the good people, some context so that I don't get painted like a bad guy here. Because I know what they're going to think. We're not going to do it just until you, that was mainly a joke because you've probably heard a lot of these, but you may, you probably don't remember them.

I might. I don't know. You might remember some of them, but I'll just, I want to, I'll go through like 10 of them. Okay. All right. These are, I'm really actually curious to find which ones you think are like, give you, and a laugh is not like, ha ha ha. Right. It's like a, it's like a,

Yeah. But again, will you please give the people some context? Because... Because Kristen's heard all my jokes. Right. When you say it like this, it sounds like I'm a real jerk. No, no, no, no. You've heard all my jokes. And actually, I run lots of things by you to see if they're funny. And because you've heard everything I say, if I get any kind of reaction out of you... Yes. Then I know it's probably really good. Yes. But we've gotten to the point where...

It's like when comedians, I'm not calling myself a comedian, but you know, when comedians talk about sharing their material with other comedians or in a writer's room or something, like nobody is cracking up at things, generally speaking, like maybe occasionally. But for a lot of it, it's just like, oh, yeah, that's funny. That'll work. So we have more that dynamic with your comedy because that has become our business.

So that's true. I just need people to know these things that I'm not just being a mean person if I don't laugh. No, not at all. Not at all. Okay. In fact, some of these actually I wrote down that I don't even think are that funny. So, all right, this will be a good test.

And the question we're trying to end up asking, have I gotten funnier over time? All right. So again, this was like my first foray into medical comedy. These articles that the titles I'm giving you. All right. Here's the first one. Attending loses perspective. Can't find it anywhere. Okay. That got a chuckle. Attending answers telephone at nurse's station. Immediately regrets decision. Mm-hmm.

That was, uh,

That's from my own personal experience. You answered the phone or you saw someone answer the phone? Well, both. Yeah. Ringing telephone in a hospital, like attendings, physicians should not go near that thing. Yeah. Because usually it's like some kind of logistical thing that is more like on the nurses. Like they know how to do. They know answers to the questions and you do not. So I just like answer a ringing telephone as a random doctor who might not even be honestly working on that.

Why would anyone pick up that phone then? Because it's a ringing telephone. You don't have the mental capacity to go, oh, that's not my telephone. I don't need to be. If no one's around. Oh, see, you left that part out. Okay. If no one's around and it's just a ringing phone, there's a strong societal urge to answer that phone. I get that.

Because that poor person on the other line, they really need someone to talk to. That person might be useless. Yeah. But they need to talk to someone. Okay, here we go. Starting off strong. Ophthalmologist dresses up as doctor for Halloween. Okay. That was pretty good. I was pretty proud of that one. Yep. Pediatric anesthesiologist can't even put own kids to sleep. Okay.

okay that's good i feel that one in my soul there's pain in there that that one touches uh that was um that was one of a very i remember that one taken off on facebook yeah people like that one uh okay this is a dated one oj oh oj and neurosurgery resident both released from prison after nine years oh dear

Um, I remember I was at the park with, uh, one with our kids. Yeah. When I saw that news broke that he was getting released from jail. And then I had that idea. And then I came home and wrote the article. Yeah. Um, okay. Med student with crushing debt, terrified. He will like family medicine. Okay. That's maybe a little too real. It's a little bit too real. Uh,

confrontation visual fields ends in triple homicide what i don't even know what that means uh so a confrontation visual fields is this is a very nerdy ophthalmology joke uh is where you you like say okay how many how many fingers do you see you're mapping out someone's peripheral vision okay and it's called confrontation visual fields why

Because you're confronting them with numbers. Okay. And saying, do you see these out of your, in your peripheral vision? Yeah. And is it in triple homicide? Because it's confrontation. Okay. I feel like that's maybe not your strongest. Because then my next question is, well, who were the three people? All right. Why are there three? Okay, that's enough. It just, yeah. All right, that's good. Ophthalmologist reports hindsight more like 2080. Okay.

That one is a little bit of a pity laugh. I told you not all these are good. That one did not do well either. Dermatology resident violates work hour minimums. Resident tempts fate, sits down at nursing computer.

Yeah. That one was popular. That's relatable. Yep. Study shows, quote, hold on. I'll get your nurse. Most common thing doctors say to patients. That one was also very popular. Yeah. And then the last one I have here was actually my very first one. Do you remember it? No.

Not, not by free recall anyway. Maybe I'll remember when you say it. Ophthalmologist accidentally agrees to see inpatient consult. Yep. Okay. Classic. Yeah. Yeah. So, so what I've taken, I see a lot of your later comedy in these titles, right? Like,

You have used some of those ideas and they have become tropes for your characters. I used to mine my old, yeah. So I was like going through my old articles because no one, you know, they've been gone from basically gone from the internet for quite a while. Right. And I would use those articles. I'd go through them and see if I had any good jokes. And then I've long since, you know, run out of that kind of material. I've had to come up with new stuff, but yeah. Yeah.

So in one sense, you have not gotten funnier because a lot of it you just recycled. Ten years later, you're still using the same ideas here. I would say I think my writing has definitely gotten sharper and more concise. I was going through these articles like, oh, I would have...

I would have reworked the title to this one and to something that works a little bit better. And so I think the main thing is like the writing, like the sense of what I find funny. It's the same. Hasn't really changed. It's more the sharpness of the, of the writing. That's so that was what I was going to say next is, but then on the other hand, you have 10 more years of practice at this. And so inevitably you have improved after 10 years of practice. Yeah. Yeah.

So, yeah, you've learned things. You have 10 years more feedback of what works and what doesn't work, you know, because that's one of the things about writing on the Internet. You get immediate feedback of do people like this or not? Was this funny or not? Yeah.

I would, that was the, the first time. And you know, all of these articles were, I wrote them from like 2015 probably to 2017. So it was like within like a year and a half or so. Yeah. Before I just started doing my own thing as glock and fucking. Yeah. Yeah. And then you took these and went to Twitter and that's, I think where you learned to be more concise. Yeah. Because you could, you only had like 120, 140, 140 characters. That's right. Um, but, uh,

It was good. I'm glad. I think because I was... I remember I would spend hours trying to come up with

one of these articles yeah and and thinking about taking a specialty and be like okay what can i use with this that was the first time i was like trying to get outside of ophthalmology right and that really set me up for doing all the character stuff later because it was like i had already thought about things from the perspective of an orthopedic surgeon yeah and you were doing that

you know, only a couple years or one or two years removed from doing things that were not ophthalmology. So, you know, back when you still remembered some of the body medicine stuff. That's right. So lucky for you that that was the timing, because if you tried to do the same thing now, do you think you could like...

come to anything at this point it would be harder but no i think i probably but it would be much more difficult yeah so like all the specifics start to fade over time so lucky you what have you gotten better at over 10 years i don't know what have i gotten better at over 10 years what do you think dealing with me well arguable have i gotten better uh organizational skills

Do you think those have gotten better? You're always good at it. I don't know. Yeah. What do you do it like a self? Okay. You're putting me on the spot. It's hard to think of things on the spot. Let's see. What do you call it? A self self-assessment. Yeah. Here's your self-assessment. What have you gotten better at? Usually you get some time to think about 10 years ago. What were you really bad at? And now you're not so bad at it. I don't know.

This is too hard. All right. You think about it. I need an outsider's perspective. Give me, give me some options. Um, okay. Uh, you have, um, writing. Uh, I'll give you, how about, um, I got nothing. See, it's hard. I guess I've gotten better at, at, um, public speaking.

I always kind of liked it. I wasn't one of those people that was super afraid of public speaking, but for the same reasons, I've just practiced over the years. Hopefully, I've gotten better at that. Have you ever embarrassed yourself on stage? Had your zipper down or...

Not that I know of. Tripped over something. Oh, I might have tripped. Yeah, I was going to say. Maybe like up some stairs. Seems like something you would do. I've done that before, actually. Especially because I have to be in heels. I almost fell off the back of a stage once. Oh, that's pretty good. Yeah, someone caught me. Someone caught you? Yeah. Like physically caught you? There was like a curtain behind the stage. Uh-huh. And I was trying to go behind some chairs. And then... Because there was like a panel or something. Uh-huh. And I...

I was like talking to someone and I took a half step off of the stage. Yeah. And I was I would have I would have just disappeared behind the curtain like a like a six foot drop. I kind of wish that you had like I don't want you to have gotten hurt or anything, but that would have been really funny.

Would it have been funny in the hospital? That's why I said not if you got hurt. I don't want you to get hurt. Just think about it. Somebody up on stage just disappears. Not just anybody. A six foot four inch man. Super lanky. Yeah, exactly. Right. It would have been very funny. It would have been funny. All right, let's take one more break.

Hey, Kristen. Yeah. I've got some friends I'd like you to meet. I see that. You seem a little too friendly with them, I have to say. Aren't they cute? Sure. With the little beady eyes. Uh-huh. And their little hands.

The hands, the claws. I don't know. Appendages. Okay. How about that? That works. Anyway, they just like, they'd like to say hi. Okay. They'd like to say hi. Okay. Wonderful. They're not, they, oh, look, the one's sticking around. It sure is. Right on my mic. These little guys are demodex and they live on your eyelashes. Yeah.

And they can cause flaky, red, irritated eyelids. See, that's not cool. That's a party foul. You just kind of want to rub them. You're not welcome here if you're going to do that. And it's caused sometimes by these little guys. Yep, that's rude. Demodex blepharitis. But you shouldn't get grossed out by this. Okay. All right, you got to get checked out. Yes, get checked out. To find out more, go to eyelidcheck.com. Again, that's E-Y-E.com.

L-I-D check.com for more information about these little guys and Demodex blepharitis. All right. I got one more thing for you. Okay. So,

I was talking with one of our kids the other day and I used an expression that was just like blank face. Like what on earth are you talking about? And it was barking up the wrong tree. Oh, okay. I don't even remember the context that I used it for, but I just used that expression and just had no idea. I had never heard that. Yeah.

And so I, it made me like wonder, like, what, what is that actually? Like, where did that come from? What's the origin of it? Why do we still use it?

So I found the origin of it as well as the origin of some other popular sayings that old people say to not just really anybody, but, you know, probably other things that our kids would be like, why are you saying that to me? Yeah. Can I guess at barking up the wrong tree? Yes. Okay. My guess would be it's about a dog and a cat and the cat runs up a tree and the dog is chasing the cat.

goes to the wrong tree thinking the cat is in that tree but the cat is not in that tree and so the dog is literally barking up the wrong tree correct correct hunting dogs chase their prey up a tree the dogs bark assuming that the prey is still in the tree when the prey is no longer in the tree okay so it's probably not cats it's probably more like birds yeah probably not cats i think it's like cartoons you know i don't think dogs really like

hunt down cats. Ours does. Well, yeah, I guess so. But the meaning of it is to have misguided thoughts about an event or situation, a false lead. All right. You want to do some more of these? Yeah. Okay. How about to butter someone up? Ooh. I remember us saying this, but I think our kids also have asked about this one too, because I think we've said this before.

So buttering someone up means to impress someone with flattery. This is a customary religious act in ancient India. Oh, the devout would throw butter balls at the statues of their gods to seek favor and forgiveness. Interesting. Now these, this is like half-assed internet research. Okay. So. Is this like chat to be teased answers? Uh,

I honestly don't know, but it's, you can find these on the internet. Okay. So nobody get mad at me if they're wrong. Yeah. You can also correct me if I, if we are wrong here. Okay. But I wonder why the gods would want butter just because it's yummy. It was maybe like a delicacy back then. I don't know. Maybe. Butter was, I don't know. I feel like butter just turn up some butter. Good. Make some butter. All right. Here's a good one. Giving the cold shoulder. You've heard that, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Where would that have come from? So being unwelcoming or an antisocial behavior towards someone or just kind of be like, I don't want anything to do with you. Right. So the origin, the first recorded use of this phrase dates back to the early 1800s. It refers to an old custom of giving an unwelcome guest a cold piece of meat.

From the shoulder of mutton, pork, or beef chop, as opposed to a welcome guest receiving warm meat. Okay. I don't know. Is the shoulder like...

less good meat can you it's tougher or something i don't i don't know but can you imagine how devastating it would be to like so what if like you think someone's a friend of yours yeah they give you some cold meat and they give you some let me give you some meat and you put in your mouth and it is cold like that just like just put yourself in that situation yeah and then you just get up you don't say anything just walk out yeah never talk to that person again the cold shoulder interesting

How about to let one's hair down? Yeah. To relax, be at ease. Yeah. I feel like that probably has to do with like,

women and how they were required to wear their hair and that you can only let it down in certain familial situations. In public, the aristocratic women of medieval times were obliged to appear in elegant hairdos that were usually pulled up. The only time they would let their hair down was when they came home and relaxed. Hard to be a woman back in medieval times. Now it's more like, take your hard pants off. That's right. Turn a blind eye. Have you heard that one? Oh, yep.

To ignore situations, ignore facts, ignore reality. Right. So the origin of that, the British naval hero, Admiral Horatio Nelson, had one blind eye.

Oh, did he wear an eyepatch? So he's on naval? Probably. Eyepatches were very popular back then. So he's like pirate-like. Probably. Guy with an eyepatch on a ship. Once when the British forces signaled for him to stop attacking a fleet of Danish ships, he held up a telescope to his blind eye and said, I do not see the signal. He attacked nevertheless and was victorious. Horatio Nelson. Yeah. Yeah. He's a little sarcastic fellow there, huh?

It's a good thing he was victorious or I think he would have been in some trouble. How about breaking the ice? Let's do one more. Breaking the ice. Breaking the ice. What do you think? To break off a conflict or commence a friendship. I've never heard it as something to break off a conflict. Breaking the ice. Well, like, yeah. Icy relationship. Like there's tension in the room and so you come in and you break the ice. I don't know. Okay. Okay.

So back when road transportation was not developed, ships would be the only transportation and means of trade. And at times the ships would get stuck during the winter because of ice formation. The receiving country would send small ships to break the ice to clear away for the trade ships. This gesture showed affiliation and understanding between two territories. That's so nice. Yeah. Kelly, can you come break the ice for me? Yeah. We'll send you a little tugboats. Come break some ice. It used to be a favor.

or a gesture of goodwill. Now it's a conversation starter. There you go. It's taken a turn.

All right. That was it. Those were expressions. That was kind of fun. Yeah. I got more, too. We could do some more another time. Always come up with some more expressions that old people use that confound and confuse the younger generation. It's becoming more and more apparent that we are now the old people. If you have any expressions that you...

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