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Liz Pelly on Spotify and the ‘Cost of the Perfect Playlist’

2025/1/28
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John
一位专注于跨境资本市场、并购和公司治理的资深律师。
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Liz Pelly
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Marilyn
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Michael
帮助医生和高收入专业人士管理财务的金融教育者和播客主持人。
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Mina Kim
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Miranda
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Mina Kim: 本期节目讨论了 Spotify 如何从最初的去中心化平台演变为偏向大型厂牌和算法歌单的系统,同时低报酬独立艺术家的问题。 Liz Pelly: Spotify 作为大型平台,影响了音乐产业的激励机制,其策略被其他流媒体服务效仿,对音乐人和独立厂牌造成影响。Spotify 最初的免费模式在当时饱受版权冲击的音乐产业中具有开创性意义,在瑞典的成功,部分原因是瑞典音乐盗版猖獗,音乐产业对新模式持开放态度。Spotify 在美国的发展,经历了从搜索模式向个性化推荐和精选歌单模式的转变,这与大型厂牌的合作密切相关。Spotify 的成功依赖于与大型厂牌的合作,这导致大型厂牌获得特权,而独立艺术家和厂牌则处于劣势。Spotify 最初被宣传为能够打破音乐产业壁垒,但实际上却成为了新的行业垄断者。Spotify 与大型厂牌的有利合约,与独立艺术家获得微薄报酬和“付费上榜”模式形成鲜明对比。Spotify 的歌曲推荐受到商业交易的影响,其中包括“Discovery Mode”模式,艺术家以较低的版权费换取算法推荐。Spotify 从搜索模式转向个性化推荐和情绪化歌单,是基于用户使用习惯的研究和商业策略的调整。Spotify 利用数据分析,将用户导向成本更低的音乐内容,并以此获利。Spotify 使用“幽灵艺术家”填充歌单,降低版权成本。 Michael: 流媒体平台对音乐人的报酬过低,无法支持音乐创作的成本。 Marilyn: Spotify 对独立音乐人的补偿不公平,建议使用 NTS Radio 等替代平台。 John: Spotify 的用户行为会为其 AI 训练数据做出贡献。 Miranda: Spotify 使用模糊的标签代替精确的音乐语言,淡化了独立音乐的意义。 Steve: Spotify 的算法推荐机制存在重复播放同一音乐的问题,用户体验不佳。

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Spotify's dominance in music streaming has profoundly impacted both artists and listeners. The platform's model, characterized by playlists, personalization, and autoplay, has created new incentives within the music industry, influencing other streaming services and the practices of musicians and labels.
  • Spotify has over 640 million users, including 250 million paying subscribers.
  • Spotify's model has shaped incentives across the music business, influencing other streaming services.
  • Spotify's influence is felt by listeners, musicians, and independent labels.

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Spotify was originally marketed as a democratic, anti-establishment music streaming platform. But according to journalist Liz Pelly, it has become a system favoring major labels and its own algorithmic playlists featuring “ghost artists,” all while underpaying independent artists. Pelly draws on interviews with former employees, music industry veterans and artists to pull back the curtain on the music streaming giant in her new book, “Mood Machine: The Rise of Spotify and the Cost of the Perfect Playlist.”

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Liz Pelly, writer; contributing editor to The Baffler