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No.226 - 嘉宾小鹿:脱口而出的那一刻,我也是热泪盈眶

2025/2/22
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丸子
通过播客和社交媒体分享生活经验和观点的创作者。
小鹿
从严肃的律师到风趣的脱口秀演员,小鹿的职业转变和独特风格让她在喜剧界脱颖而出。
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小鹿:我经常在深夜或独处时质疑自己是否值得,是否会搞砸,能否成功。即使在黑暗中摸索,我们也并非孤身一人,人生的容错率比我们想象的高。那些曾经让你觉得“完蛋了”的时刻,最终都将成为宝贵的历练,定义了“值得”的意义。即使拥有很多成功经验,我依然会害怕失败,质疑自己能否做到。个人专场更需要观众的同类共鸣,而综艺节目需要更大众化的笑点。个人专场是一个更私密的表演空间,需要与观众产生更深层次的连接。我进入喜剧行业并非计划好的,而是在人生定型之前的一次尝试。我一开始只是想尝试一下脱口秀,并没有觉得自己一定能行。脱口秀行业的成功也依赖于市场机遇。我是一个害怕冲突的人,所以没有选择参加辩论队。在奇葩说的舞台上,我会担心自己表现不好,搞砸了。我第一次上台表演脱口秀,效果还不错,让我觉得自己的创作是有效的。我在脱口秀决赛中致敬麦瑟尔夫人,是因为她代表了女性在喜剧领域争取话语权的努力。我可以自己重新定义成功与失败,竭尽全力就是成功。说出“我要拿冠军”的那一刻,我热泪盈眶,这并非一件正常的事情。创作过程中的痛苦让我痛哭流涕,但我从未想过放弃。我会对自己要求很高,对演出结果进行严格评判,但也会理性分析影响演出效果的因素。我很难平衡野心和能量的保存,常常处于竭尽全力、需要休息的状态。在演出中,我会全力以赴,将所有能量都集中在表演上,演出后需要时间恢复。如果重新选择人生,我依然会选择现在这样痛苦的人生。我会通过自言自语、夸奖自己来应对负面情绪。我学会夸奖自己是受到了身边人的影响,尤其是我老公的鼓励。好的朋友会像蟑螂一样涌现,因为他们与你志同道合。真正的灵感来自于闲暇和放松,而工业化的灵感需要通过努力和技巧获得。我一边怀疑一边努力,这种状态很有意思。我的朋友曾劝我不要折磨自己,也折磨朋友。理性战胜感性,逼迫自己去做不想做的事情,是我的重要特质。对某件事的热爱是人生前进的原始动力。我被梦想击中,甚至击晕,这是一种痛苦的幸福。我对野心的定义与性别无关,但社会对女性野心的评价与男性不同。人生中会有很多痛苦的阶段,但要相信未来会有美好。 丸子:很多人不是追求梦想,而是被梦想击中,无法选择。 Nicole:略 supporting_evidences 小鹿: 'Even when groping in the dark, we are not alone. Life's error tolerance rate is higher than we think.' 小鹿: 'Those moments that once made you feel , will eventually become precious experiences in your life, defining the meaning of .' 小鹿: 'Even with a lot of successful experiences, I'm still afraid of failure, questioning whether I can do it.' 小鹿: 'Personal shows need more empathy from the audience, while variety shows need more universal jokes.' 小鹿: 'A personal show is a more private performance space, requiring a deeper connection with the audience.' 小鹿: 'My entry into the comedy industry wasn't planned, but an attempt before my life was set.' 小鹿: 'I just wanted to try stand-up comedy at first, I didn't think I could do it.' 小鹿: 'The success of the stand-up comedy industry also depends on market opportunities.' 小鹿: 'I'm someone who is afraid of conflict, so I didn't choose to join the debate team.' 小鹿: 'On the stage of “奇葩说”, I worry about my poor performance and messing things up.' 小鹿: 'My first time on stage performing stand-up comedy, the effect was pretty good, making me feel that my creation was effective.' 小鹿: 'In the stand-up comedy finals, I paid tribute to Mrs. Maisel because she represents the efforts of women in the comedy field to fight for their voice.' 小鹿: 'I can redefine success and failure myself, giving my all is success.' 小鹿: 'The moment I said , I was in tears, it's not a normal thing.' 小鹿: 'The pain in the creative process made me cry, but I never thought of giving up.' 小鹿: 'I will be very demanding of myself, and strictly judge the results of the performance, but I will also rationally analyze the factors that affect the performance effect.' 小鹿: 'I find it hard to balance ambition and energy conservation, often in a state of exhaustion and needing rest.' 小鹿: 'In the performance, I will go all out, concentrating all my energy on the performance, and it takes time to recover after the performance.' 小鹿: 'If I had to choose life again, I would still choose this painful life.' 小鹿: 'I will use self-talk and praise myself to cope with negative emotions.' 小鹿: 'I learned to praise myself because of the influence of people around me, especially my husband's encouragement.' 小鹿: 'Good friends will emerge like cockroaches, because they are like-minded.' 小鹿: 'Real inspiration comes from leisure and relaxation, while industrialized inspiration needs to be obtained through hard work and skills.' 小鹿: 'I doubt while I work hard, this state is interesting.' 小鹿: 'My friend once advised me not to torture myself, and torture my friends.' 小鹿: 'Reason overcomes sensibility, forcing myself to do what I don't want to do, is my important characteristic.' 小鹿: 'Passion for something is the original driving force of life.' 小鹿: 'I was hit by my dream, even knocked unconscious, it's a painful happiness.' 小鹿: 'My definition of ambition has nothing to do with gender, but society's evaluation of women's ambition is different from that of men.' 小鹿: 'There will be many painful stages in life, but believe that there will be beauty in the future.' 丸子: 'Many people are not pursuing dreams, but are hit by dreams, unable to choose.'

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“我值得吗?我会不会搞砸啦?我能成功吗?我能做到吗?”每个人都有过在黑暗中摸索道路的经历,或许是未能达成的目标,或许是令人紧张的选择和挑战,害怕达不到,害怕弄砸。可只要沉住气走过那段孤独的路,或许回过头就会发现,人生的容错率,比我们想象的要高很多。那些曾经让你感到“完蛋了”的时刻,那些你告诉自己“没关系”的瞬间,最终都将成为你生命中宝贵的历练,它们定义了“值得”的意义。今天我们就来和小鹿聊聊那些值得的时刻。或许,你也能从中找到属于自己的答案。愿我们都能放下过去的包袱,将眼泪、痛苦、挣扎化为盔甲,活出真正的自己。[04:19]经历过很多次“上场”,你还会紧张吗?[12:28]辩论没有选择我,但我选择了奇葩说[19:24]“哎呀,我实在佩服这个竭尽全力的我自己”[21:33]“不正常不正常,我说出口的时候也是热泪盈眶”[32:30]如果重启一次,“我还是选这样痛苦的人生”[39:50]好的朋友会像蟑螂一样涌现在你的生活里[43:00]一边怀疑一边跑,很辛苦但也很搞笑[44:48]“你为什么要折磨我的朋友?”[47:13]不仅是被梦想击中了,可能是击晕了[50:06]听友提问:如何理解女性的野心?[52:55]听友提问:人生不是每一段都美好,但一定会有美好的时候 三八妇女节即将到来之际,巴黎欧莱雅推出企划#没关系,每一步都值得#https://collection.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/loreal2538本期节目为企划系列节目之一,感谢巴黎欧莱雅的特别支持!如果你喜欢本期节目,请转发给你想对ta说“没关系,每一步都值得”的朋友。也欢迎收听「没关系,每一步都值得」系列的其他节目。最后,祝福大家在2025都能走在自己人生的道路上。不论发生什么,没关系,每一步都值得。 丸籽:  微博@丸籽本丸,即刻@丸籽本丸 Nicole:  微博@Nicoleledeng,即刻@NicoleDeng 来都来了播客: 微博@来都来了播客 ,即刻@来都来了 邮件:[email protected] 商务合作请加vx:ldll_bus 听友群请加:ldll_2 欢迎加入「来江湖」,来都来了,祝大家玩得开心,财色双收!