Bring Her Back: An Interview with Danny & Michael Philippou
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Welcome to Last Podcast in Love. We have a very special episode here. We have two of one of my newest, truly favorite movie creators. What you guys are doing is fucking out of this world. The new movie, Bring Her Back, is coming out. It's out now, right? Yes, by the time you hear this. It's out right now. It's out now. Bring Her Back. The directors of Talk to Me as well, Danny Filippo and Michael Filippo. Welcome. Welcome.

Hello! Thank you for having us. Live studio audience here. We have two people in the back here. Rob is our producer. We got the gals. Making sure that you don't say anything too horrible. Our goal is to make you say horrible things. We're in a constant battle. So before we get started, I just want to say I love horror movies. Horror movies are probably my favorite genre of movies. I have been...

terrified to watch, talk to me. And I haven't watched it. I specifically did not watch this movie because I'm like, this scares the shit out of me. I want nothing to do with this. I watched it last night with my wife and

And fuck you. My wife had to sit there and see that. What is wrong with you? I'm sorry to your wife. What are you doing here? I don't know what's wrong with me. Yeah, I don't know. You know, you just, you got to get the doctors out somehow. Yeah. And then this morning I woke up.

7 a.m. bright and early to see Bring Her Back. Perfect breakfast film. I've been trying to tell people, honestly, see the matinee. Like, get in at 3 o'clock in the goddamn afternoon and just experience it sober. I was watching this movie. I had to pause it halfway through. I'm losing my fucking mind, all right? I'm going nuts. I can't deal with this goddamn fucking

movie. It's too early in the morning, alright? I got a beautiful dog. I'm like, I love you. Please kiss me, alright? And so I'm like, alright, I pause. He's a mouth kisser to the dogs. I go make, oh yes, you guys know. Yeah, you guys love it. So I go, and I go make my breakfast, and I start like cutting my strawberries, and I got scared of the knife in my hand because of the movie

Yes! I was like, I was scared of myself because of what you guys did. I thought I would have eaten breakfast. I'm actually just jealous. Why haven't you brought your dog in? I miss my dog and I haven't patted a dog in quite a while. So you got to bring your dog next time. What's your dog's name? My dog? I got a new dog named Harley. I'm going to kill it. She had a 20 pound dog. Yeah, yeah. She's 13. You don't have to wait long. We actually already got the funeral planned. Yeah.

Can I ask, how do you guys, because you guys made like stunt vids, right? Like you guys were doing, how does it get, like, was it just a natural progression of filmmaking from there? Well, it was always, that was always, the YouTube stuff was just practicing to become filmmakers. That was always the goal, always the aim. And, you know, speaking of stunts, Michael couldn't be listed as one of the directors at the start of insurance for Bring Her Back because he was in Detroit having death matches. Right.

What does that mean? It's like an extreme form of professional wrestling where they use light tubes and barbed wire and real weapons and they cut each other up for real. It's like an extreme performance art blood sport. We're doing a documentary on it. I want to be in it.

You look okay. Yeah, I feel good. They're Australian, so they're naturally immune to certain types of damage. Yeah, luckily we brought a barbed wire back. Listen, before we plug any more of these films, I need you to eat a light bulb. Awesome.

You've got to see it. It's visceral. It's bloody. It's good. It's nice. What was the... So, you do that just for the thrill of it, or is it one of those where you just love physical action? Both. Both.

I think we've been obsessed with deathmatch wrestling since little kids. So we used to do it with our friends, unfortunately. There were parents that would literally not let their kids hang out with us. No way! Yeah, because we were delinquents. We were actual delinquents. You just threatened to kill my dog. Oh, yeah!

I was jealous. It was out of envy. It was out of envy. You guys had fun charges, though. I looked at your Wikipedia pages. Your charges are fun. Yeah, yeah. We've had a few fun charges. Yeah, yeah. They're not, nothing bad. Like, really, like, nothing. Just the stuff that honestly just excited me about you. Yeah. Underwater cars, we got, Michael got arrested for, so did I. Which wasn't even my idea. That was a video. Danny had an underwater car made, and he didn't want to drive it.

Well, because I was filming and Michael was terrible at recording. That sounds like an excuse for everything. Michael was so bad at recording. Michael, you're so bad at recording. We would do a scene and I'd try to be in the videos or try to be in something and his footage is out of focus. It's like, dude, just point it at me and film it. Yes, but you were correct to be scared to get in an underwater car. Well, no, I got in the underwater car. I was filming in there. Okay. Yes, I was in there. No, you weren't. You weren't in there. I don't know why there's lies being thrown around. No.

And then the cops came and found you while you were in the middle of shooting, right? Is that the idea? No, no. So the video came out and then suddenly, like a year later, Danny got arrested. It wasn't a year later. It was like a couple of months. Anything but getting arrested over making art is one of my favorite things in the face of the planet. It was so good. But I actually got arrested for pretending to be Michael. Yeah, yeah, sure. But then they arrested him. And then Michael got arrested for the art. Yeah. They said I was like a wanted felon, like I had fled the country. I was like,

haven't been hiding or anything and then I put the evidence on YouTube yeah it's on the video come on but it's like a year long lawsuit what was the charge driving recklessly driving dangerously driving without a license driving without a seatbelt driving a car that's not fit for the road are you not American yeah yeah that's what I said what happened was how about littering we were

We were not. No, no, not littering. Not littering. That would have been a bad one. They're pretty easy on littering, actually. No, but it was a big thing in the end that I got off scot-free because I wasn't actually driving dangerously or recklessly. No, we actually, it was a stunt performance practice car. It was a stunt.

The police said that they were gonna have to recreate the underwater car to prove it was dangerous. And you're like, yeah, we're gonna do your awesome shit. Why don't we go for a race, boys? Okay, let's get to movies. Let's get to some movies. I love books. That's my favorite kind of movie. One that I'm directing inside of my own brain. I can cast it with all of my favorite porn stars. That's my favorite.

But when I watch your movies, the first thing I noticed, which is that one of my favorite attributes, is that they feel extremely lived in. Like, they feel like, like, talk to me feels like you're watching a story that's already happened before and now it's happening again. Which is also why talk to me, the sequel will also be perfect at some point. Whenever that comes out, you better do it.

Yeah. Yeah, Danny. Don't at me. Yep. And then bring her back is kind of also the same where you're dropped into a world that's already going. Like, can you... First thing I want to know is when you make that, like with the hand and talk to me...

And with the story in Bring Her Back, do you know that entire story before you write the film? Because it seems like you know what's going on, but you leave sections out. Yeah, that's my, I love it so much. I love world building. I love like building out the Bible and the backstory and the law and like going into every possible detail. Like I love ironing that out. And then I also love dropping people into the middle of it.

And it's like told from the perspective of the characters and the point of view of the people that we're following. Yes. And like the kids being out of the depth of their hand and talk to me. Like, I love that. Yes. They're not sitting there researching and figuring out all the answers. But there's obviously a history there. There's something happening. And the same so of this. There is something that we've built out and we're designing right now that is like the hand of talk to me to the bring her back universe. Wow.

Have you seen the bong? The bowl? The weed bowl that was made out of the hand? Oh, yes. I love that thing. Yeah, yeah. That's great. That's good stuff. It's a candle holder, mate. It's a tobacco pipe. That's what we say. It's an incense holder, buddy. Yeah.

No, but it's the same as when you're writing a character. You've got to know the entire backstory of the character. You need to know all the moments that led up to this moment, why they're like this, their personality, what are the key moments in their life that made them this way. And it's the same with the backstory of anything on that other side of it, the tapes.

Where did Laura get these tapes? The backstory. Who are these people? Who created them? Why? What is the mythos, the entire mythos? You've got to know that stuff. That's important to know. So even though you never... Same with the characters. There's a lot of things you'll never see on screen. It's still important to have that so it feels real. I like that thing with The Shining and that ending. If you read the script, you'd know that Jack Torrance is...

he's like a resurrected person from someone that used to live in a hotel but it's completely cut out of the movie and then there's the book that has all this backstory and you're getting glimpses of this bigger world and I love that there's this there's a bigger stage that these films are playing in like I love that like Malazan do you know those books? yes do you know like

there's this entire world and you're like you're reading it and you're a bit out of your depth and you're like wait what's this who's this that's my favorite that's my favorite it's like why I like all the stuff where you're dropped in the center now your job as the viewer yeah you can figure it out is to stay engaged it's so good I would say it's very arrogant of you to compare yourself to The Shining I did not compare myself it reminds me of The Shining I'm sort of like Stephen King the two of you together are close to a half a Kubrick right? yeah

That's what I'd say. Maybe a quarter. Maybe a quarter. But yeah, I love that because my biggest pet peeve with horror movies is when they over-explain shit. And you guys really leave it up to us to figure out. And it's scarier that way because my imagination runs wild. Yeah. I'm sure you know the answers.

But I honestly don't want to know the fucking answer. Yeah. It's sort of like the theorizing or when you come across like a piece of lost media or you look at those old school footage and you're like, you don't have the context. And you're like, what the fuck is this thing? This is terrifying. This weird clip or this execution video. Fake. But whatever it is. And it's like, where are they? What language are they speaking right now? Like what is happening? Like that stuff just makes for really horrific art.

I think that you guys are also bringing up, which is the hour, you know, probably closer to a younger generation, but also with my generation of the discovery, like our parents had finding weird shit in the woods. Yeah. We had finding weird shit on the internet. Yeah. And we saw a thing, but in the street, but like we saw mysterious things on the internet and,

And that was what inspired us. And I think what Talk to Me and Bring Her Back are doing is understanding there's the same amount of mystery in the modern world as there was in the old world. And I feel like that's what you're bringing back. In fact, I feel like there's more mystery in the modern world. Yeah, because in a way it's more accessible, the mystery. You'd think it would be.

But it's still things you can't scratch. It's still like, what did I just see? Is that real? Is that fake? That's even scarier because you can't differentiate that line now. And you're lost between those things. And you're like...

People can fake this stuff, but also it's real enough that that real stuff also does happen. So it's terrifying. It's terrifying. And also you have Sally Hawkins in Bring Her Back who's legitimately like a Patriot Missile actor. Yes. That is somebody. What a fuck. That's like driving a fucking Bentley. I know. As a director. And we thought there's no fucking way that she would respond and she would say yes. I still don't think she'll do it. Yeah.

It was always so real because she was the first person that we reached out to and we were thinking there's no fucking way she's going to say yes. She's like the new Amanda Plummer. Yeah, that's her. That's her. We said that. You're like the new Amanda Plummer. And then she turned down the film. Yeah, yeah. She's like, fuck you both. Do you know who I am? I make wet films. She really does make quite a bit of wet movies. She does. Well, she loves Shape of Water. She loved this. It was the only reason she was drawn to it. No, she was like, she wasn't drawn.

to it. Yeah, oh, there's water in it? Count me in. Can I be moist in the sand? She was like, she didn't connect to it on like a genre level because she always reads it from a character's point of view. It's just connected with Laura as a character and she was just like going so in depth with Laura and like picking up on the smallest nuances of the script and she was, it's the best collaboration. She dropped it.

the little pieces of lore in the middle of her extreme acting that you can like, but you were like, I'm watching it too being like, oh, she just, she's threading the needle of all the info. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And especially with that, there's like a scene with Wendy and she's like,

Okay, I can't stop her physically. I have to convince her, like, please listen to me. Listen, we have a history together. We know each other. Please listen, listen, listen. And like, she's so desperate. Like, please, let me explain this to you. I know it seems impossible. It seems psychotic. But I'm telling you, like a miracle is happening here. But she's nice in person. She's beautiful. Of course. But she is terrifying when she's fully in character.

I bet, man. Oh, I fucking bet, dude. Can I ask this? Okay. Again, I'm trying not to bring any real distinct spoilers for the film. Yes. You can. Well, look, I'm the director, so. Can I ask, though? Rob brought this up. My wife and I both kind of pinged this, too, or talk to me and bring her back in

In the same world. Maybe. Jeez, who said that? I don't know who said that. Mysterious. Mysterious. The podcast is haunted. They seem to be like they're kind of... Because they both revolve around... We're both like, it's like a mysterious object. It has some storied past between the hand and the tape. Well, there's this thing where it's like you're writing stuff and...

you're always like putting things together. And like, there was like, like parts in the script writing when characters in bring her back, we're in talk to me, characters that were in talk to me, we're in bring her back. Cause I've written at the same time. Yeah. And, and like, you find that you find your footing and you find the structure and you find the bones. Like the more that you go over a script, the more you iron over it. You're like, okay, this is that like, this makes sense. Like,

Sometimes when you... It's like scribbles. It's just like rough drawings everywhere when you're first starting off with something. And then eventually, you color it in and the full picture is there. Every movie is going to be set in the same neighborhood. Yeah. So in the neighborhood, the character is going to be driving. Someone's going to be driving along with their own look over. Laura's kidnapping Oliver. She's going to be in a big car crash. Your hand's going to have a hitchhiking thumb. Yeah.

We've got to get out of this goddamn neighborhood. This block's horrible. You guys don't mind the Australian accent? No, I love it. No, I love it. Does it feel unsymmetric at all to people? No. Do you really think that? No, no, no. People in Australia think that. No, I do as well. If you guys say...

what's that over there? In an American accent, it sounds scary, but an Australian, oh, what's that over there, mate? Yeah, well, that scares me more because you fuckers are scared of shit. Yeah. I,

Yeah, it must be scary. Yeah, it's true. You know, it's so funny because you even say that. No, honestly, I think one of the most incredible things you've done with also both is make believable friend groups and believable families and looks like they all hang out and they all belong together. I felt like...

I knew them. I didn't even notice the accent, to be honest with you. Yeah, that's amazing. And in Australia, and some of the stuff that we'd worked on, just as crew members, they're like, you have to... Australians are not going to stand that. Really, really pronunciate it. So if you're like, oh, what's that over there? They're like, oh, no, that's mumbly. Oh, what's that over there? And it becomes awkward Australian or too Australian, where it feels really false. And then Australians have this cultural cringe about it, where they're like, oh, that feels weird. And then Americans are like, that sounds weird.

And there was something about it, especially when we went into making Talk To Me. The producers are the people that we originally gave the script to were like,

Can we film it somewhere else? Like, what about with American accents? That could be more accessible. What about in America? You do it in America. That's very interesting. I actually love the hometown authenticity. I like that. I love it as well. And I love that there's certain words or phrases that are from Australia that audience members would be like, what's that mean? I love that. But you know they mean it. The actors know what they're saying. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I think it's something that's... Because we had one chance. It was like...

Talk to Me was it. It was our only movie we were probably going to make because it probably wouldn't work or whatever. So to us, it felt right to do it authentically. And Australian is authentic. That's where we knew the people we know and how we grew up. So it felt right doing that. So the fact that it resonated, you know, kind of internationally, and I think it does

because it doesn't matter who the people are, where they're from. It's a human to human story. Yeah, exactly. So we all know those people. It doesn't matter where you're from. Also, the kids are using, especially in Talk To Me, they're using it like it's drugs. Yes. That's what's awesome. It's a fun game. Yes, I would do the hand if the hand was available to me. I'd be fucking on that thing. You would, wouldn't you? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'd fucking do the hand. No, I'm not doing the hand. Get on the damn hand. If anything, I'll fight the people with it.

the hands. No, you have to follow the rules. Yeah. As long as you follow the rules, you can use the hands. No, you can't! Yes, you can. The rules are bullshit! Boys, relax. This is our whole gig. Don't make us relax. I'll fall immediately asleep. Oh, man, but seriously, though, man, talk to me. I'm watching this fucking movie, and I'm looking at all these kids, and they're going crazy, and I'm just like,

Stop touching that fucking hand.

Just stop it with the hand. You guys are going too crazy. And it's just like, I felt the same way when I was at a party and like someone kid had stolen like a nitrous tank from a hospital. And like everyone was doing the balloons. And everyone, I saw like two kids almost die. I felt like I was back in that room when I was watching that movie. Dude, that was like one of the inspiration points was like these neighbors that we watched grow up. He was like having a bad reaction to this drug that he was taking. He was on the floor convulsing and everyone he was with was just filming him and laughing at him.

And then I saw that footage and I was like, God damn, that's fucking barbaric. Yeah, man. I was the one filming it. That's why you're a director. You're able to distance from the emotional effect. You know? But yeah, even like when you're writing those characters and like, same as like with Talk To Me and Bring Her Back, like draw from real experiences, like draw from things that make you uncomfortable. Like for example,

There's these things, Greek Orthodox funerals in Australia. They probably do this everywhere. I mean, you know when they've got an open casket? Oh, yeah. And then in Greek Orthodox funerals,

at funerals, you have to kiss the head of the corpse. See, that's something I did not know about. That's a real thing. You kiss their heads and you don't have to do it. It's not something that you have to do. And so if people freak out about it and they don't go there, and you can see it's really bothering them to see even like a body or a casket, they don't have to go up to it. But Laura is trained in this. She's a child therapist. She's a psychologist. She knows this is bothering him.

And she's like, I'm going to pull him up there. Because she's trying to break his ass. She's trying to break his ass. Make him unreliable. Get him out of the house. Yeah. And yeah. I don't want to spoil anything. No, that's the problem. It's so hard to not do because I want to. Yeah, yeah. And that's what's so terrifying. And it's tapping into that. Like that was freaky to me as a kid. I remember when my grandfather died, there was like,

this woman that I didn't really like that much. And she was like, not even really part of the family. And she like came up and put her arm around me. And like, I was like, I'm trying to grieve here. And then she was like, well, let me secure. Okay. He's okay. Everyone. It was this weird thing where I was like, Oh gosh. Like I felt really, she told you to kiss your grandfather. No, that didn't happen. Lower, lower, kiss him lower. Cold marble. Yes. I, I, I kissed a dead head once and it is upsetting. I wish I didn't. Well,

Where were you? What were you doing? My mom died. Oh, it's his mother. It's his mother. It's fine. Don't worry. It's been a long time. We can joke about it. The other corpses that he's played with have mostly been extremely warm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he's got them fresh.

I feel like you two guys have probably killed someone. No. Hey, hey, hey. Not in this country. You said, hey, you can't do something. Hey, cut that out. Cut that out. No. Can I see your acting face of strangling someone?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on. Come on, yeah, yeah. Now this is me taking it. Yeah, see? You know. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. You were my friend. You were my friend. That's been fun, huh?

We know how to talk to big directors. Yeah, that's what we are. We're big directors. You're actually quite physically small. Yes. Were you surprised? A lot of people say that. When they see us in person, they go...

I think we sound quite small. Yeah, but you're wiry fuckers. I ain't trying to fight you. Did you ever get in fight as brothers? Like, did you fight dudes as brothers? Oh, like together? Yeah, we did. We used to fight people in the neighborhood. Yeah. We were pretty cool. It's just, it's called having a go, right? Yeah, you don't give it a crack. And that was...

That was just how kids bonded back then. You just fight each other. Yeah, a lot of the kids that we fought we became friends with. Yeah. Of course. You got to fight them and then you're friends with them. I was surrounded mostly by girls. Did you fight them? No, we played little games. What? Must. I'm disturbed.

My sister used to fight us. And she would, yeah, she has to have the last hit. Oh, I bet. Oh, yeah. In fact, she'll chase you with a fucking frying pan until she cracks you over the head. She will not stop. There's no stopping her. Does she like the movies? Does she come and do the... She loves them. She's in the end of the... In the... Hey, hey, hey, don't. At the end of the film. Oh, yeah. That was a total joke. That was a total joke.

At the end of the film, there's someone that gets out of a car. That is my sister.

Oh, wow. That's our cameo appearance? And then our cousin was in the backseat too, and then she starts getting out and we cut it. She's like, I can't wait to be in the movie. And I was like, yeah, it was the same in Talk To Me. She was in it and the scene got cut. It felt so bad. Yeah, we cut it twice. It's not personal, Lana. No, it's not, Lana. But you've got to perform better or we're not going to use it. Honestly, it's about being in the right scene. Yes, correct. Or in the right position. Oh, yes. I remember I was in Wolf of Wall Street and one of the scenes. Here we go. Hey, listen. Hey, hey, hey.

Gather round. Gather round. Gather round. Let me tell you a story. Listen, there's many. I'm almost nine years older than you both.

But I always remember because there was a scene where it was one of the plane orgies and the AD told everybody, all the ladies on set, that if you're going to be on set today, you might be nude. Right. And so there was ladies next to Leo. And he said to one of them, just so you know, you're going to be naked in the scene. So you're going to take off your clothes, blah, blah, blah. And she was like, actually, I have a contract for a previous contract where I'm not supposed to get naked in the scene. He's like, that's totally fine. We're just going to have to move you out because they've been talking about they want. And she was like,

No, I'll do it. And then she just took off all of her clothes because she knew she'd make it in the movie. Were you in that scene? Yes. I was in all the orgies. Wait, you're in the film? Yeah. Have you seen Wolf of Wall Street? I've seen Wolf of Wall Street. He's the fat, ugly one. Oh my gosh. I'm one of the fat, ugly ones. I'm different now. I love that film. I'm so interested. Yeah, I love it. That was the closest I ever got to seeing that. Wait, so you were extras on different... How many films have you been on? I was an actor in that. You were an actor?

I used to ask a lot. He's been in like six or seven legitimate films? I used to be good. I used to be very castable. Do people get, do you get rusty? People get rusty. You know what's funny is that I think that- He got fat. I've got fat again. No, I'm just kidding. Actually, I got skinny. I got skinny and then I got fat again.

And why isn't that you lost roles when you got skinny? Oh, yes. Really? Oh, no, I was. I will tell you the truth. This is a full on exposure. I was it was between me and Patrick. What's his name? Swayze. Oh, yes. Me and him always were against each other. Always. No, it was Paul Hauser. Yeah, I was for I, Tanya. And then they asked me if I could gain 100 pounds. Oh, my God. And they said no.

Is that? I was like, no. Yeah, no, I couldn't get it. It was too skinny. I got too skinny, and then I lost all those rolls. 100 pounds is a lot. Is that even possible? It's a lot, yeah. No, they wanted me to be fatter. Oh, Henry can't get 100 pounds. Oh, hey, believe me. I just gained five pounds sitting here. I'm a coach. Oh! Yeah, big fat piece of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Horrible. He looks so familiar. Wait, go to his IMDb. What have I seen him in? Yeah, I did this. It was in a show called Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell. This is amazing for me. We're going to cut all this. Can we? We're going to have to cut all this. Guys, guys. Now I'm just talking with them. I'm going to do a podcast of him. Yeah, yeah. Look at that guy. I do it every week. It's not that great. Yeah.

Can I ask? All right, so now let's get back to you. Pull up my ID, B-Page. Let's get back to you. No. No. Trauma movies. Trauma movies. Really? I love trauma movies. I collected those as a kid. We know Lloyd Kaufman. If you want to go work for free, he'll gladly take your stuff. Actually, I think you have to pay him to work for him. Obviously.

At first, like six jobs on sets were completely free. I would have loved a Kaufman set. Damn, the Troma movies are awesome. You know, it's funny because like we did get in touch with that crew and it is. Have you found that yet? Have you met?

How do I put this? Have you met a hero that's disappointed you? Do you know what's weird? The heroes that I've met have all been pretty heroic. Great. Nice. Yes. Sam Raimi. Oh, he was so nice. You know what's awesome? It's so cool in LA because all these people are local. So we had a movie night just the other night with Fede Alvarez. Oh, man. And we watched- And Zach Kroegers. And Zach Kroegers. We watched Weapons. Fuck yeah. It was awesome. That was so- I'm like, this is so Hollywood right now. Oh, man. And you're like,

exchanging stories and stuff. It's incredible. Yeah. It's so awesome. Teddy Alvarez is funny. Oh, he's cool, man. That new Alien movie was fucking awesome. It was so fucking good. I really enjoyed it. I can't wait to see what else this guy does. Now, when you're in this situation, are you guys as fun as you are now or are you like actually playing it cool? I think...

a little bit of both. We're in the middle there because we're at his house. We don't know him too well, but you came out with guns blazing, so I was like, oh yeah, we can cut this out. That's the goal, yeah. Here, we're not as elevated. Any room that we're in, I remember we were at this A24 party and it was just...

all these directors were there. Real directors. Real directors. Yeah. And I felt so out of place in that room. I was like, I do not deserve to be in here. I should not be in here. Well, you do now, man. That's fucking, everything you guys have made is incredible. Yeah, dude, you're two for two. Yeah. Do you think so? Yeah. I know so. Yeah.

I'll tell you what, man. You're two for two. We were talking about The Shining earlier. Used to be the scariest movie I ever saw. These two movies have taken it over in one day. The scariest fucking films I've ever seen. You also scarred him. This is the type of shit that scars you. I'm like mad at you and also impressed. Oh my god.

So, can I ask? You were saying characters appear in and out of your films as you're writing them. I know that, obviously, there's probably not a lot you could say about you were developing a Street Fighter movie. Was M. Bison ever in Talk to Me? M. Bison did...

We weren't as in love with bison as we were Akuma. Oh, yeah. We love Akuma. Do you know, we were in the street fighter rabbit hole for a while. It was a lot of fun. I was traveling around Thailand, going to different Muay Thai camps, doing research, looking for the real Sagat who still trains people. Whoa!

In Thailand. That level with a giant Buddha statue, that's a real place. No way. That's an actual place in Thailand. Yeah, so I was going to these places and I was speaking to these trainers that apparently he'd been with and they're like, no, he's over here now. So I was traveling around. It was awesome. It was so much fun. Did you find him? Yeah, I found him. Well, he's so tall. It's probably easy. He's short in

He's shorter than me in real life. How about Blanca? How was he in real life? Exactly the same. You know what they say, never meet your heroes. Exactly. Exactly as I wanted him to be.

It was hard to turn down Street Fighter. It was hard to walk away. It was just... It was hard. It was just... What are you, singing? I don't know what that was. It's blues. Yeah, thank you. Because you're in America. I'm in America, so I started singing. It was just scheduling. It was between Bring Her Back and Street Fighter. We loved Street Fighter.

Bring it back. It's more personal. It felt more right. I don't know. You were correct. Well, luckily, I didn't see our Street Fighter movie. But you know what? Legendary Pictures is amazing and I think they're going to do a good job with Street Fighter. But you don't think something like that's going to come back around? Also. Something like that. No, because they're making it still. I remember I read an article that it's being postponed indefinitely. And I was like,

And then I text him, like, what's going on with Street Fighter? That's a full story. It's still happening. As far as video games go, you know what no one gives a shit about? Street Fighter 1. Street Fighter 2 is the real game. That's the real game. That's the best Street Fighter game. Hold on. He's saying Street Fighter 1. He's saying Street Fighter 2 is the shit. Make Street Fighter 2. Don't make Street Fighter 1 because it's bound for failure.

It's bound for failure. Yeah, we'll sign up for Street Fighter 2. Oh my God, the set pieces we're making, it would have been brilliant. Anyway, bring her back. Bring her back to really... Are you talking about the interview?

But truly, I think that you made the utterly correct choice because the more you guys are betting on yourself, the more you're making an extremely good movie. I think there's time for you guys to do some IP. Yeah. And what's exciting is...

as opposed to taking a big IP is making your own IP. Amen. And it's like, oh, what if in 20 years they want to remake Talk To Me? That'd be pretty cool. They won't. Yeah, no. No, they'll be on Talk To Me 10 by then. Yeah, Talk To Me X. Dude, do Talk To Me X in space. Dude, I've written out 40 sequel ideas. I'm going to show you the list. You will love it. You will actually love it. That is all I want to see. The more, have it show up at fucking like, you know, it should be go back and

You can go forward in time. Michael, keep talking while I get this up. You're going to love this. I need to get my sequel ideas up. Talk to me, they build it with pyramids. Stop it.

Well, honestly, we're doing this alien festival in a couple of weeks. Contact in the desert. Talk to me. Bring that hand to the alien festival. What is being abducted by aliens? What's this alien festival? Contact in the desert. It's a bunch of people who have been abducted and shit. Dude, I was on Time Magazine as one of the main photos for the storming Area 51. No way. Yeah, that was me. He clapped the alien cheeks. I was there. You stormed Area 51? Do you have the bullet holes to prove it?

I was like, if everyone runs, I'm running as well. And there were SWAT cars everywhere. There was people with guns. And then I was like, I can't wait to get there. We pulled up, like 50,000 people RSVP'd. There was like 50 people there. And everyone was like this. I think the military were like, if you do cross the line, we're going to shoot you. They're like, we literally will shoot you. Yeah, we're not fucking around. It's Area 51. It's not the Capitol building, for Christ's sake.

It looked scary from those pictures. It was terrifying. And then people getting arrested. But no, it was a good time. Let me get my sequel ideas up quickly. Michael, change the subject. Change it. Talk to them. Did you Naruto run towards Area 51? I wasn't there. I knew Naruto ran. Here's the picture. Does someone edit things? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the picture. It's a good picture.

In fact, there's two pictures. Here's the two pictures. I went in two different outfits. I was all about it. This is amazing. Wow. How come you didn't, by the way? Because, to be honest, I'm a pussy. I don't want to get arrested. You can't be in the desert, really. Honestly, I must be most... I'm sitting in water right now. Same as Sally Hawkins.

I literally am sitting within water right now just to sit. Do you know what's cool about Sally Hawkins? No matter how cold it was, no matter how bad the stunt was, they're like, oh, we're going to pad you up because you're about to hit the wall. She's like, was Laura wearing pads? I don't think Laura's wearing pads, is she? There's a scene where she jumps in the water at the beginning of the movie. It was the first day. And they're trying to put a wetsuit on. Yeah, they had wetsuits. She's like, so when was Laura wearing...

Did Laura put on the sweatsuit before she jumped in? Or did she see her daughter and jump in? Sally's the fucking best. I hope y'all are going to be pushing for her to get an Oscar for this because it was unbelievable. It's probably too genre-y to get an Oscar. Fuck that. Not after last year. Not after The Substance. Oh, yes, The Substance. It changed everything. It's all different now. If we let the Oscars infect horror movies, it will never be the same.

If horror movies get too big for their britches, it's never going to be the same. It's never going to go back. We are too big for our britches. Step back down. Humble yourself. Yeah, humble yourself. No, no, we're going to win all the Academy Awards. No, no, it's sort of like,

I like that the crossover is happening. We are in such a boom right now for horror. It's like we're in the 80s again. It's heaven. The fact that Substance went that far was fucking awesome. Subbody horror. Nosferatu, Sinners, now you fuckers. It's crazy what's happening right now. Well, I wouldn't put us in that category. You put those three, put us a couple down there. But no, dude, I mean, bring her back in.

I'm not just sucking their penises here. It's a forever movie. Yeah, yeah. It's a great movie. I put it in close to... Because right now, my truly favorite modern horror film is Hereditary, and it is right on its tails. It's like doing the same...

it gave me the same feeling, which is literally what Eddie was saying. I wanted to shut the movie off and run away. Oh my God. I literally, at one point today, I stood up in the middle of my living room, woke up my wife who was still asleep. And I'm like, it's just too much.

There is too much! There is too much! He doesn't even want to... If you've seen the movie, you know what that sound is. Yeah, you know what that is. Did I tell you? Here's a story. There was a certain sound that we couldn't replicate. Whoa. The sound designer was doing it. So I got a knife.

and I did it. No. And on the microphone right up close and that's what you hear. It's like, okay, this is going to be hard to watch. You can close your eyes, but do it so you have to try and close your ears as well. It's going to be too confronting. See, that's a real director though. You stood and you're like, I'm not getting it enough. Yeah.

And also, yeah, so like part of me is like, oh, I think this could like, maybe like, like non-genre fans might like it. And the other part of me is like, because it seems like that, I'm like, you have to be a hardened horror fan to enjoy it. But I don't know. I don't know. Do you think you'll stay doing genre forever?

I think, well, we're doing the documentary next. Great. Yeah, so there's that. And then I think that, we're writing a few different things. We are. But I think the next thing, like, I still want to do two more horror films. I know for sure. I've got two that I've got mapped out of my head, me and my co-writer, and like, I need to do them. People are going to be coming to see them if you make them. Yes. What's the documentary? The Death Match Wrestling. Oh, that's also going to do extremely well because I think that people are really interested in,

that and wanting to see this whole world. Well, I just don't know because that's real blood. I don't know how many people can actually watch it. It's a real underground form of wrestling, but it's exciting. I find it exciting. How does people, when people get into death wrestling, like honestly, like is it just, is it real? Not to, I'm not saying that they're not quote unquote real wrestlers, but it's like trained wrestlers also doing it as well? Yeah. Or is it just psychopaths? Yeah, no. Yeah.

A big thing of the documentary is why. What draws people to it? Why do they do it? But they are professional wrestlers. They do moves. They train. Yeah. And it's not for money. It's not. God forbid. Something else. Yeah. They don't make much money from it. And they're literally killing themselves. It's passion. Yeah. It's passion.

There's a few different reasons. Yeah, that's what I bring to my eating game. It's a passion. Wait, hold on. I'm so sorry. When does this alien festival thing? I really want to go. Are you a true believer? Dude, I love alien shit.

Please, if you're ever in town for this, it's at the end of May each year. It's called Contact in the Desert. Damn, it's the end of May. Damn it, I leave tomorrow. But it's the number, if you're ever here, I'm certain that I don't know what Australia has in terms of UFO coverage. You guys actually have one of the most, there's a great deal of UFO lore. Oh, I know. In Australia. There's nothing else to do but look at the sky. But there's also one that you guys don't know. Which one? It's called Parham.

Please. Please. He's obsessed. Parham. They experiment on aliens there. Oh. Now, is that a base? It's a base. And there's a town near it, and when the lights go red, no one can get out of their house. Fuck yes. Yes, I've been there.

and it's horrific. Really? No, no, it's pretty chill. But like apparently there's theories that there's aliens there. I've not seen any such aliens. Where is that located? South Australia. South Australia? Yeah. Because we went through South Australia, we drove to Snowtown. Lovely place. See, that's crazy. The guys have been to Adelaide. You're the only Americans that have been to South Australia. And then he's in the Snowtown. He went straight to Snowtown. We were in Adelaide for 28 hours and we were like, you know what, let's drive to Snowtown. It might be

not happening there. What were you doing? You were doing a show there? Yeah, we had a tour in Australia and New Zealand last year. It's so weird. There's like concerts don't come to Adelaide because no one goes to things. Dude, Adelaide was... That theater we were in was awesome. Yeah, it was packed. Adelaide, we love you Adelaide. Adelaide, repping

I love Radley. Radley was one of our best shows in the fucking entire little tour. See, that's awesome. I love it. It's changing then. The pendulum's shifting. Maybe we are becoming a bit more cultured and arty. It was funny. It was like there were literally three dudes in the front row that were like the Three Stooges. They were beating each other up the whole show and like throwing beers at each other. It was amazing. But it was very funny. It was like they weren't even that disruptive.

You know what I mean? Like, they were kind of just amongst themselves. But we went to Snowtown, and they literally looked at us because they know why we're there. Like, why are these three fat Americans here? And they were like, what brings you to town? And we're all like...

Just driving. Indian food. Just driving. I heard a disturbing story because you know how the barrels got discovered because the smell. Yeah. And the sludge. Yeah. So when it did get found out and it was on the news and everything, people were like,

like driving there and then trying to sniff under the bank vault to smell the... Oh, my God. Is that you, boys? I just want to smell it. I just want to smell it. Quick, go away, fam. Nothing I love better than a true crime story that's scratch and sniff. Oh, I forgot to offer you guys. Would you like some cheese crackers, knife? I'd love some cheese crackers. Yeah, would you like your favorite snack, which is a knife? I'm loving this. Oh!

LAUGHTER Don't even watch that. Just throw that in the bin. Could you sign that, please? LAUGHTER

Man, you are two fucking larrikins, aren't you? Yeah, we're a little... Michael, are you okay? Ow. Sorry. That's not interesting, and that hurt him? Take it easy, Matt. Take it easy. You know what I had in the... I was going to bring it, but I thought against it. It's in the car. What is it? I had a fake knife and fake blood, and I was going to start chewing it. No, you were going to have blood all over the carpet. He did a real... Oh, yeah, it's the shining carpet. Oh!

Yeah, it's a shining carpet. We're very on brand here. Oh my gosh. We're very, very on brand here. The plants are fake.

We got a lot of accoutrement. That's from, oh, that is from a wonderful place we hear, it's called Lowe's. What a wonderful place here. Oh, alien. We have a lot of shit. All right, so, but you know, if you ever want to come to, like, Contact in the Desert is awesome, but it's like, we're all true believers. It's the first place that I've ever been to where I went to this place. It's at this resort near Palm Springs, Contact in the Desert, and we...

I kind of thought we'd all be getting drunk and being in the pool. And it's like all of these nerds in the lobby talking about UFOs. They are. They make me dressed up by like galactic fighters and stuff. And I am out of place. I must like I thought I was a serious one. I'm used to like literally alienating people, making people upset. I was like, y'all are alienating me. Like I was like, you guys should be in the pool.

This is the time for you to fuck. Like, this is the time for you all to flirt and fuck each other. And this is like, you shouldn't be, you're all talking shop. Oh my God. No, but it is good. We were writing an alien movie. Oh, you better. No, no, but wait, but wait, but wait, but wait. In the defense to the galactic warriors, you,

you needed someone to defend you. And if the aliens were coming, they were ready. While you were fucking in the pool, they're protecting you. I'll fucking aliens. I would fucking, who knows what disease you'd contract. But listen, listen, listen. We were writing it, writing an alien movie, but then Jordan Peele released the trailer for Nope. Yeah. And you're always like,

No, all right. Nope was good as hell. But Nopey kind of made it into sort of like a creature feature. It was Jaws. Yeah, like more than an alien movie. I still think you guys got an alien movie. Oh, my gosh. There's no way you guys don't have an alien movie. Oh, we were writing an alien movie. Do you know what's a great alien movie?

Fire in the Sky. How great is that? And Phenomenon, the documentary Phenomenon. I love how it's wrapped everything up. Travis Long spoke at the festival last year and then at night he's playing guitar by the fire. The guy from Fire in the Sky is there flirting with, he's hanging out. He's a rock star there. Yeah, that's wicked. I want to tell you a story about that off

Off camera. Okay, great. It's the best story you'll ever hear. I love it. Alien vibes. Alien story vibes. I really think that you're... It's very real. Cut that out, because they're going to feel like they're leaving out. We didn't mean to leave you out. No, we love to leave them out. We love to leave them out. It's just one of those things that if you talk about it, you could get into trouble. You've already given away five spoilers for your movie that's not even out yet. Don't even worry about it. Do you know all the stuff...

But I was researching about how the United States had nuclear weapons bases in Australia pointed at North Korea. And when we decommissioned all those bases, then all of this UFOs, like this is all in the last like three years. There's like a massive influx of Australian UFO stories that were hidden for a long time because they were all now told by guys that are decommissioned officers from those old bases. Here's my thing.

Okay. Aliens are real. Sure. Bring her back to the cinemas very soon. Don't forget that, guys. It's out now. Yeah, bring her back. You've got to check it out. You guys can check that out. Bring her back just so we remember. But yes. Okay. You know how we've got drones and we're flying them around? Yeah. And you know how we can observe planets from all this miles away? Yes. Light years away. We can observe. If they're that...

and they're that ahead of us and their technology is stuff that we couldn't imagine. How are we capturing them on camera? Why are they floating around down here? They can observe us from... No, but how are we even not... How's all the footage looks like it was on like a Nokia 3315? No, but even when it isn't, even when it isn't... There's no... Where's the 4K?

Okay, even when it is planets, where's the good footage of the aliens? What if we are barely acknowledged by them? What if half the phenomena could be interdimensional? So what if when we see something that looks like an amorphous floating, like kind of cubey type thing, that is our translation in this dimension of

of a craft that is literally going on a grocery store run in another dimension that might look like one of those things from Starfleet. They're not even in it. Or there's dumb aliens. Like tourist aliens. I mean, there has to be. There's dumb tourist aliens and they crash the UFO and they're like, oh, what the hell are you doing? They talked about this. You're fired. It's the BT. Yeah. Stop crashing it

You're crashing on fucking planet Earth! Just go outside of the atmosphere! Take a look at this, I got the keys to Dad's car! We're going on a come on with the alien booze!

That's the stuff that's fun. Yeah, but going back to what you said, it's hard to get a picture of that stuff because you're so in shock when you see it. Like right now, going back to my dying dog. All right? I got a 17-year-old dog that has seizures, okay? And every time she has a seizure, I'm supposed to get a video of it. Be careful with the knife. I'm supposed to get a video of it for the vet. But every time, I'm worried about the seizure. So by the time I get the video out, she's done seizing. That's the same thing as with the aliens. Yeah, it really is. You're so in shock.

Yeah, him filming his elderly dog seizing is definitely the same as intergalactic travelers. No, I see it. You could be in that much shock. I don't know. If I saw the UFO, I would get that shit. But you're a director. Yeah, well, yeah. All right, just give us three talk-to-me sequel concepts that you were going to do before we go. Before we go, quickly, what happened was my phone...

isn't working in terms of... Is there Wi-Fi here? No. No. We're not allowed. Yes, it's right there. Oh, right there. Michael, do you want to... Did you have some talk-to-me ideas? It's not going to work unless I read them out. Because they're written out. Michael, ask him another question before we go. I'll pitch you one, all right? You ready? I love it. Go ahead. M. Bison, okay? He's sitting there. He's sitting there. We've already got that one. That one's written down. All right. Fede Alvarez. He's...

Dude, you write it as you, as directors, super meta. Oh, yeah. You get the hand. Yeah, but that's like number 11. Yeah, that's when we really get desperate. All right, it's going to come. It's going to come. It's going to come. Me too. Can't wait. It's going to come. Don't make him come. Please don't make him come. All right.

Talk to me. Yep. Oh, okay. Already done. Written. Talk to me again. Yep. Yes. Yes, yes. Talk for me. These are titles. These aren't... No, no. These are ideas. No, no. These are ideas. I already see it. This is... These are... Talk to me five more times. Wow. Or have a... No, high five. Oh, yes. High five. Yes. Yes. Okay, I'll write that. Yes, there's five things. Yes.

Why are you still talking to me? Whoa. Number six. That's the retcon. Yep. Talk to me in Tokyo. Yep. Tokyo Drift. I was also thinking of one. Look who's talking to me now. Yes. Oh, yes. I love that. Again, all these are just titles, right? No, no. These are movies. These are movies. I've read lots of these. Talk to me, hand takes Manhattan. Yeah.

Oh, it's got to be in the 80s club scene. Yes. Oh, yes. Yes. You can get a producer credit for that. It gets a long pinky nail and it does coke for people and shit. Now we're getting silly, Eddie. No, we're not. We're getting good. These are good. Talk to me, triple A's. Porno in space. I was expecting space. Don't give them what they expect. Full penetration. Talk 12.

No, that one didn't hit. That one. That movie's not as popular. That one didn't hit as much. Unless it's in a heist and it's like Ocean's 12 and then you have George Clooney having to steal the hand from a casino vault. Yes. See, yeah.

Yes, talk to me. That's like an AI version with Michael Jackson. Talk to me. You guys want to see what this microphone is? Oh my God, because of the glove. Yes. Oh, wow. See, he's getting it. Thank you. He's smart.

Talk to me embalmed foot version. Oh, that's disgusting. Yeah. That would honestly make... Why is it if it's a foot, I'd vomit if I saw the film? Then you have to suck on the top toe or whatever. There was a sucking of top toe in that movie. There was toe sucking in the movie. Did you vomit? No. Well, no, but not if it's...

Toe sucking was actually kind of peaceful. You're gross. Oh, you liked that scene. Yeah. He mouth kisses the dog. He sucks on his wife's toes. And he's a huge fan of your films. And he's just so excited. You know what? It all adds up. He is the guy. These are the best movies I've ever seen. You're marketing it towards him. How about, oh, the porno one should be cocked to me.

Oh, cock to me. Yeah. Yeah. There was a talk to me porno. Yeah. There was a talk to me porno. Oh, of course. Seriously? Yeah. Yeah. I sent it to Sophie. And I was like, was that inappropriate? But then she laughed. Dude, that is a high level of praise. I know. Yeah. And there were possession porn. It was really awesome. Was it like fingering someone and then like she saw a ghost? I didn't watch it that intensely. Come to me. You filmed it, Danny. I did not. That's not funny.

It's only harassment if you're in the film. I did not harass. I was not part of that film. But yeah, they'll possess them having sex. Come inside me. No. That's enough titles about this. Stop telling them to come inside you. They're trying to leave town.

What would you say, what stuck with you more since you watched them both today? Talk to me or bring her back. Bring her back. Why? It's definitely like, I was like a half hour in and I'm like, oh, this isn't as bad. I can handle this. And then it's just so...

unforgivingly brutal. It really is. And it's just like, it made me visibly upset. I literally turned it off. I don't think I could have seen it in the movie theater. I'm going to now because I've seen it already. And so now I feel like I can see it in the movie theater because I know what's going to happen. I'm just going to watch the audience get pissed.

It brought me a level of discomfort that I haven't experienced since. Have you seen The Coffee Table? I have not yet. The Coffee Table's fucked up. Oh, I thought you were talking about the scene in the movie, but that's different. No, I'm talking about a movie called The Coffee Table. Oh, check it out. That is...

But you know what I like is when it doesn't feel like it's just exploitation. That's why it messed me up. Because it was real and it was based on emotions. And like, you know, as people, as someone who's experienced loss, you're a fragile person and you make these horrible decisions. That's why Sally Hawkins character is fucking unbelievable in that movie, because you could tell we were talking about this before you got here, that she used to be a really good person.

Yes, you feel for her. We wanted to make it like a character that the young comfortably empathize with. And I think that's what was great about Sally is that she brought it...

She brought a human element to it. She didn't play it like a horror villain. She played it as a broken human being. And she's struggling with what she has to do. Yeah, she's struggling with what she's doing. She really is. Well, again, now I'm just spoiling it. That's the ending. You guys were honestly, the ending's amazing. You have to see the film. What would you say is a series of references for you guys? Your films. What are your main go-to films in your head? I don't know.

I'm always in Treatment, which is a TV show. Yeah. Because of how realistic those characters feel and how real the world feels. And something like throwing water on somebody feels like a car crash. So I love that film. I love Let the Right One In. Yeah. I think that is a really incredible film. Also kind of wet. Yeah. Well, it's snowy. Snowy, you're right. Snow is wet. There's a pool scene. There's a pool. And then obviously, obviously, the Holy Grail, Exorcist.

Yeah. Yeah. Everyone talks about elevated horror. I'm like, they've been elevating horror since the 70s. Have you seen The Exorcist? Have you seen Rosemary's Baby? Yep. Yeah. Mouse Hunt is a good one. Yeah. Michael's obsessed with fucking Mouse Hunt. Have you seen Mouse Hunt? Mouse Hunt. It actually is a good film. Is that the one with, not with French stew? They're hunting mice. Have you seen Stuart Little?

I haven't seen Stuart Little, but I know the film. Indian in the Cupboard? Have you seen that? Nothing I would love to see is the mouse hunt to bring her back Pipeline. It's connected more than you think. Yeah.

They were very practical. That mouse hunt, they did things so practically. It is a little bit bring it back-ish. You know who's funny? There's an actor in that that I used to love that I haven't seen in forever. It's Lee Evans. Oh, is he in there? Yeah, where the hell's Lee Evans now? Well, he's in Mouse Hunt. He's working on the sequel. No, I don't think. I would do Mouse Hunt 2. You should put him in one of your movies. Yeah, I should do Mouse Hunt 2. You should put Lee Evans in one of your movies. Ha ha ha!

Hey, listen, no, no, come here. This is what my parents always do. Be like, hey, have you ever tried being in a film, like a big movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever thought about making Seinfeld? That's what my parents would say. You said, did you see me? I started leaning out of the cabrio. I'm naked at the back of that plane. Whoa. Did you show them that? Your parents?

I had to go see it with my mother, yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was horrible. I saw it with my mother too, actually. She was fine with it. She was happy that she was getting attention. Oh, she was getting attention. Well, just in terms of just being there, my mom just kind of believed that she was on display. Oh,

Oh, right. She was proud. We invited my mom to come watch Bring Her Back in America, but she wouldn't come. Why? Yeah. She doesn't like flying. I understand. It's a fucking horrible flight. It's a terrible flight. It's long and she has anxiety about it. And A24 were trying to do everything. Like, oh, what if we can bring a friend? What if we can up?

the class and then my mom still said no no it's yeah but you know that she will see it though you guys and she'll be damn proud yeah she'll be so damn proud of what she made because she didn't get she made the film because she made you she did she and laura was based on her wow that's amazing so she's a sweet mother wow there was one scene that was real what a wonderful tribute

One scene? Which one? That punch. Oh, yeah? He did a couple of takes for real. Whoa. I'm joking, I'm joking. I believed you. You're a stuntman. I believe anything you tell me.

my job Sally insisted she had to hit the blind girl she insisted was that girl able to do all that stuff with her eye she's naturally she actually is she's got vision impairment okay she's great she's so good she nailed it she never acted before

Really? Yeah, it was her first time acting. She was incredible. All of the acting in both of the films was incredible. I was so impressed, especially because I didn't recognize anybody, obviously, because it's Australian films. And I was so impressed by the acting in every way. Obviously, I'm sure you guys had a lot to do with that, but they all scared the shit out of me, and I believe the hell out of all of them.

It's about finding the right people. Especially the audition process. Yeah, it's in the auditions and everyone's so committed and down. So yeah, we're blown away by everyone. And especially with young actors and everything, you just let them know like there's no such thing as a bad take. And you can change dialogue if you want to. Don't be embarrassed about anything. You're not letting anyone down. It's like building up a trust and letting them know that it's okay to

to fail. Like there's no wrong or right take. It's just about finding it. I also think that you are setting a good benchmark for responsible auteurs making stuff. Cause like, again, you named two auteurs, like William Friedkin, Roman Polanski, both famously not great guys. What's wrong with William Friedkin?

Willem Frigga was just a crazy guy. He was crazy. He's crazy. But you guys were, that's just wonderful to see. You're setting a great new tone and you're not only setting a great friendly tone, but you're also making truly horrible and horrendous movies. And that's the fucking best shit in the world. I can't wait to make another movie. I just want to be on set already. It's getting there, man. Don't worry. They'll force you. They're going to make it. So check out Bring Her Back.

Please. One of the, I'm going to say it's probably the best horror movie of the year. So far already. Yeah, so far, yeah. I mean, we saw Sinners. It's like Sinners, obviously, it's like Sinners and this, or like, they're going to be, you know, you and Ryan Coogler are going to have to fight. It's a big year. We might have to fight. You might have to fight him physically. He's going to kick the shit out of you. He might kick the shit out of you. He would kick the fuck out of me. I would not survive that. And he's way more talented than us. He's right. He's right.

So Danny, Michael, Filippo, thank you for lowering yourself. We enjoyed being here. Go have fun in New York. Promote the shit out of this thing, man. Thank you, sir. Have fun with the alien thing. We will. Farewell. The effects. I'm gone. Guys, thank you so fucking much, man.

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