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Strange Customs: An Interview with Sasha Sagan

2024/12/27
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Sasha Sagan: 我对人类习俗的兴趣源于儿时对人类行为的疑问,以及我父亲提出的思想实验。作为无宗教信仰者,我依然需要仪式来标记时间、处理变化和表达情感。世界各地的仪式,无论表面形式如何不同,其核心都是为了应对生命中的重大变化和自然现象。我不相信来世、超自然现象,但我认为对未知保持开放的态度很重要。科学是一种理解自然的方法,即使在不同的宇宙环境中,这种方法仍然适用。占星术缺乏科学依据,人们对占星术的渴望源于对宇宙联系感的追求。宗教信仰会随着时代变化而改变,而非简单的增加或减少。那些以宗教之名制造分裂和暴力的行为,违背了宗教的核心精神。许多宗教信仰更多的是基于身份认同而非神学教义。从宇宙视角来看,许多导致人类冲突的差异是微不足道的。对某些人来说,对地狱的恐惧而非道德本身,才是阻止他们犯罪的原因。人们渴望归属感,而世俗人士需要在其他领域寻找这种归属感。撒旦教是一种具有颠覆性的信仰体系,其目标是挑战社会中对宗教信仰的偏见。 Henry Zabrowski: (与Sasha Sagan的讨论互动,表达对宗教,科学,以及超自然现象的个人观点) Ed Larson: (与Sasha Sagan的讨论互动,表达对宗教,科学,以及超自然现象的个人观点)

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Why does Sasha Sagan find customs and traditions fascinating?

Sasha Sagan is intrigued by customs and traditions because they offer a way to mark time, process change, and celebrate life events without relying on religious infrastructure. She views rituals as a means to process significant life changes, such as birth, marriage, and death, and to find beauty in scientific phenomena like the changing of seasons.

How does Sasha Sagan view the role of science in understanding the universe?

Sasha Sagan sees science as a pathway to understanding reality, awe, and wonder. She believes science helps us grasp that we are part of something larger than ourselves, offering a secular way to experience the spine-tingling feeling of connection to the universe.

What is Sasha Sagan's perspective on the afterlife and paranormal phenomena?

Sasha Sagan does not believe in an afterlife or paranormal phenomena due to a lack of evidence. She emphasizes the importance of relying on evidence rather than hopes, fears, or confirmation bias, and remains open to new scientific discoveries that could change our understanding.

Why does Sasha Sagan think rituals are important for humans?

Sasha Sagan believes rituals provide humans with a way to process change, celebrate milestones, and find meaning in life. She sees rituals as either offering the illusion of control or helping people make sense of significant transitions, such as puberty or the changing of seasons.

How does Sasha Sagan approach the celebration of holidays as a secular person?

Sasha Sagan celebrates holidays like Hanukkah and Christmas as historical reenactments to honor her ancestors and cultural heritage. She also marks the winter solstice as a way to celebrate the scientific reality of longer days returning, emphasizing the beauty of natural phenomena.

What is Sasha Sagan's opinion on astrology?

Sasha Sagan does not believe in astrology, as there is no evidence to support it. She questions how the position of planets and stars at birth could influence personality and sees astrology as a reflection of the human desire to feel connected to the universe, though she believes science is a better pathway to that connection.

How does Sasha Sagan view the rise of atheism and the future of religion?

Sasha Sagan believes the rise of atheism reflects a normalization of secularism, but she also thinks it can lead to increased fanaticism among religious groups. She sees religion as evolving over time, with traditions and rituals mutating to survive, and emphasizes the importance of focusing on community and shared values rather than division.

What is Sasha Sagan's take on the role of science in understanding alien life?

Sasha Sagan believes that while there is no evidence for alien life, science is the best method to explore the possibility. She emphasizes the importance of evidence and the scientific method, holding an open space for the unknown while remaining grounded in what can be proven.

Why does Sasha Sagan think humans are drawn to conspiracy theories?

Sasha Sagan believes humans are drawn to conspiracy theories because they provide a sense of control and certainty in an unpredictable world. She compares conspiracy theories to religious beliefs, noting that both offer a narrative to fill the discomfort of not knowing.

How does Sasha Sagan view the relationship between religion and morality?

Sasha Sagan argues that morality does not require religion, as people can have internal systems of ethics without the fear of divine punishment. She critiques the idea that belief in hell is necessary to prevent immoral behavior, emphasizing that morality should be based on empathy and reason rather than external surveillance.

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Sasha Sagan talks about her experience growing up as Carl Sagan's daughter, addressing the impact of her parents' work on her worldview and the joy of sharing their legacy with others. She explains how her parents' emphasis on science fostered a sense of awe and wonder in her.
  • Sasha Sagan's upbringing influenced by her parents' work in science.
  • She views her parents' legacy as a treasure.
  • Science as a pathway to awe and wonder.

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Happy Holidays... (Happy HA-LI-DAYS)!

The boys are off enjoying ham by the fire so in lieu of a new episode this week Henry & Eddie sit down with new friend of the show - author of For Small Creatures Such as We: Rituals for Finding Meaning in Our Unlikely World) - podcaster and producer - Sasha Sagan) joins the show to discuss the "Strange Customs)" of human-beings, growing up under the paternal guidance of science icons Ann Druyan & Carl Sagan, Santa Clause vs. The Tooth-Fairy, Astrology, and MORE!

Last Podcast on the Left returns to our regular scheduling next week with Black Dahlia Murder Part III!

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