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521: Dr. Vaughn Cook’s Revolutionary Biofeedback Technology in Holistic Healing

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In this episode, Ashley James interviews Dr. Vaughn Cook, creator of the ZYTO technology, to explore the cutting-edge intersection of technology and holistic health. Dr. Cook delves into how energy medicine, voice analysis, and quantum-based tools like the ZYTO Hand Cradle are transforming health assessments. They discuss how these non-invasive approaches provide personalized insights into the body’s wellness, helping practitioners guide patients toward balance and healing.

Highlights:

Supporting Holistic Health Practitioners
Energy Medicine Technology
Evolution of ZYTO Scanning
Voice-based Health Assessment
Hand Cradle for Practitioners
EVOX for Emotional Healing
Clinical Validation through Case Studies
Non-invasive Health Monitoring
Quantum Field and Energy Healing

Ashley James (0:00:00.000)

Welcome to the Learn True Health Podcast. I’m your host Ashley James. This is Episode 521.

I am so excited for today's guest. We have Dr. Vaughn Cook on the show. This is such an interesting topic. I feel we're finally into the years of Star Trek. We're living in the future. I was such a Trekkie as a kid and growing up. I love Star Trek. I love the idea that health and technology could come together and that we could use technology to end all disease and end all suffering. That was such a neat concept. a few years ago, I saw the ZYTO at a chiropractic office and I was like, what is that? then Jennifer Saltzman from takeyoursupplements.com, who I'm a huge fan of and I rave about their services. They really are just a wonderful mix of holistic health practitioners and coaches that are committed to helping people get their health back through nutrition and supplementation. They've been using the ZYTO in a new way. I said, I need to learn more about this becauseI tell my listeners, I'm the biggest open-minded skeptic. So my first reaction is skepticism. then I go, okay, well, let's stay open -minded, let's go deeper. Usually when I do, I'm pleasantly surprised at what I find.

So you have a technology that now we can use through an app on the phone, along with our holistic health practitioner, when you go to takeyoursupplements.com for example, and they can hook you up with this and it scans you and tells you, in such a crazy detailed way tells you where you're off in your body and what we can do to support your body to come back into balance. I've scanned my husband, myself and my nine year old son and it was eerily accurate. So I can't wait to dive into the science. So excited to have you on the show, Dr. Cook.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (0:02:27.575)

Hi Ashley, it's good to be here.

Ashley James (0:02:30.712)

Yes, absolutely. I pretty much laid it out. This is the technology that shows us how we can come back into wellness. we're living in the future with Star Trek like- technology now. But , my first reaction is skepticism, because you're telling me that with an app and with what I hold in my hand, my smartphone, that we can learn about what my body needs and how we can support the body's ability to heal itself, that little skeptic, and I know some of my listeners might be skeptical, but of course open-minded, because they're listening, and curious also, wanting to know how can they learn how to bring their body back into balance. So I want to jump all the way back to the beginning of ZYTO. How did you get into this because it's a super cool technology.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (0:03:24.454)

Well, I got into it about 40 years ago. When I was a teenager, I developed horrific allergies and they went away and then they came back. In the early 80s, my wife and I moved our family to Las Vegas, Nevada. When we got there, my allergies came back with a vengeance.

I had a neighbor who was a dentist and he said, it's probably just something in your yard you're not used to that you're reacting to. So he said, I have this interesting technology I use in my clinic as a hobby. Break a twig off of everything in your yard and bring it down to my office tomorrow at five o 'clock when I close and I'll test you and we'll see if we can figure out what's going on. So the next day I had three big grocery bags full of twigs. I walked into his office and he pulled this piece of equipment out of his cupboard and it had a meter on it and a metal plate on top. Then he handed me a ground, a little hand mass that had a wire that went into this device. He would then put a twig, one at a time, on the metal plate on the top of the device and then he would poke my finger with a stylus and when he did that the meter would then go up and the machine would make a funny sound.

He explained to me that what he was doing was measuring the energy flow through my acupuncture meridian at the particular point that he was probing and the energetic influence of the twig on top of the instrument, its effect on my body would be reflected on my body's response as indicated by the meter and the sound. It was a totally goofy experience. If I hadn't been suffering from allergies as bad as I was, I probably would have gone, this is crazy. The other thing is this guy was a credible guy. I knew him and he was legit. So it was like, well, it might be nuts, but if it's good enough for him, I guess I can sit through it.

At the end of the experience, after we had tested every twig, he said, the only thing that you're showing a reaction to is Oleander and Pyracantha. I thought, well, okay, those are two things that we didn't have where we moved from, so it's possible those are the culprits. Then he went over to his cupboard again and he got another instrument out and he got out a little three ounce amber dropper bottle and a fifth of vodka. He poured some vodka into this little bottle and then he put the little bottle in a well. This new instrument he pulled out had two wells on top. He put this little dropper bottle with the vodka in it in one well and he took the Oleander and the Pyracantha twig and he put those in the other well. Then he twisted some dials on the front and he said, okay, what this machine does is it will transfer the energy from the twigs at a homeopathic potency and it programs it onto the water molecule and the alcohol molecule in the vodka. It was strange. I was a fairly open-minded guy, but this was just weird. It sat there for about five minutes, and then he said, okay, here's your remedy. Give me the bottle, he said, put 10 drops under your tongue three times a day. So I went home and faithfully did that because I wanted to get rid of my allergies, I was willing to try anything. On the 10th day, my allergies shut off completely. It was nuts, it was like God stuck his finger up my nose and turned off the valve. It was that dramatic. I thought, wait a minute, I've had allergies for so many years, nothing works like this. It's got to be that the Oleander and the Pyracantha have just gone out of bloom and there's no more pollen. So I went out in the backyard where the Oleanders were and they were still going crazy. I went out front, the hedge along the driveway where it was covered with Pyracantha and they were still blooming.

The only explanation was it had to be this magic stuff that he gave me. That was my introduction to energy medicine. it was so dramatic that I then inquired of him and said, tell me more about this. It turns out that what he was doing is a technique that was developed in Germany. It's called Electro Acupuncture according to Voll or EAV. Reinhold Voll is the doctor who developed it and then it came to the states in the 70s. There were a few clinics that used it, but it was mostly just, the Mavericks and they were doing interesting things. But I then met Bill Roberson, the name of the dentist and he introduced me to a doctor named Fuller Royal who had a clinic there in Las Vegas. Then Fuller, I got to know him pretty well in his clinic and he introduced me to a guy named Roy Curtin. See, I'm giving you all the names and genealogy here, Ashley. Anyway, Roy had a company that had taken the EAV manual technology and had computerized the library. So they had developed a way to represent Oleander or Pyracantha with a digital code.

Then instead of having the twig and putting it on the test plate, you would go into their computerized database and you would activate the code that represented Oleander or Pyrakantha. it would create the same effect as putting the twig on top of the test plate, on top of the metal plate. so that revolutionized the whole EAV world in a significant way. so I ended up going to work for Roy and his company for a while and then I left and started my own company and developed a similar technology and I started that, gosh, it was in the late 80s and it's just evolved since then.

So in the course of time I've built several different devices that we've sold to primarily health professionals. The reason is because with the EAV technology, back in the days when we had to take the stylus and actually probe the acupoint, the learning curve on that was fairly steep. Some people could learn how to do a point test in a couple of days, most people it took a couple of weeks. You had to commit yourself to the process. Meaning, if I brought EAV into my practice and didn't use it on a regular basis, I just would never get proficient enough to make it work well. So it was the doctors who were interested in that kind of stuff who really we sold the equipment to. Everybody said, gosh, would it be so easy if you just would invent a glove and we could just have our patients put their hand in a glove and then we could run all the tests that way. So they didn't have to point test. Eventually we didn't do the glove but we did what's called a Hand Cradle. I don't know if you saw the Hand Cradle Ashley.

Ashley James (0:11:54.736)

Yes, I have. I have seen it at chiropractic offices. That's really interesting. I've never used the Hand Cradle myself, but I have used your most latest technology. I said, it was a very accurate, really interesting experience. Well, I'm sure we'll get there. Let's go back to the Hand Cradle because I'm really enjoying this, this history lesson of this technology and how it's been evolving.

That made it a little easier, more accessible for the practitioners. So instead of having to learn the acupuncture points and know when to touch each one with the machine, now the patient comes in, puts their hand in a cradle with different metal pads, and then it can read them, essentially, read their energy signature, maybe explain a bit how that works.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (0:12:42.443)

I'm just pausing because I'm trying to think of how much geekiness to give you. Vole, the original developer of EAV, had a student, his name was Schimmel. Schimmel didn't like the idea of going from point to point because that's what Vole technology does. If you want to measure the large intestine,

You go to the large intestine meridian and there's a point on that meridian. It's called the control measurement point. It basically gives you the entire picture of the large intestine on the left or the right side. If you want to test the heart, you go to the heart meridian and you test the points on the heart meridian. So you can test points all over the body. The reason it works, frankly, is because acupoints are hardwired to different parts of the body.

There is a point that has a more direct connection to the valves in your heart. There's another one that has a connection to the bundle of his and one to the muscles. So you can get a very detailed electronic assessment or exam of your patient by just measuring those points. If what the points are, you get pretty intuitive and pretty uncanny in your ability to diagnose. Schimmel didn't like the idea of going from point to point. It was just cumbersome and it took too much. So he developed an alternative technique. He developed a technique where you would take a sarcode. A sarcode is a homeopathic remedy made from healthy tissue. So if you want to test somebody's heart, you would take a sarcode for heart and you would put that on the test plate and then you would just test one point and you test that one point over and over again because all you needed was just access to the body. He learned the most significant part of the measurement was called the indicator drop. Your body is a capacitor essentially and your organs hold energy. When you challenge the body with the Voll equipment, you're putting electrons into the body through the hand mass, and then you're taking them out of the body at the stylus when you touch the acupoint. the part of the body that that acupoint is most closely associated with will act as a capacitor and the ideal reading is one that goes up to 50 on the scale and stays at 50. What that's telling you is there is a proper amount of electron flow through that part of the body, and the body has the ability to sustain that flow over time. But when you get an indicator drop, when you touch the point, the meter goes up, goes up, then as you hold the pressure on the point, the meter drops. So it goes whoop, and then it goes whoop. See, I'm even making sound effects here for you. What that tells you is that that part of the body is not functioning in a healthy capacitive way, and the resistance is going up and the electron flow is dropping, and so it indicates a chronic problem.

So that's the difference between acute and chronic in EAV. Anyway, Schimmel developed this technique where instead of going from point to point, he would put the sarcode on the test plate and then he touched the point and watched the meter. If the meter dropped, then okay, that's an indication we got a problem with heart, okay? Then what he could do is he would take remedies and he could put those on the test plate at the same time the heart sarcode does on the plate and he would then repeat the probe until the meter responded in an optimal fashion. When that happened, then he would say, okay, there's a problem with the heart and these remedies correct that problem. So here's what I'm going to prescribe to you as the patient.

Ashley James (0:17:26.803)

So that could be herbs, that could be supplements, that could be...

Dr. Vaughn Cook (0:17:31.939)

Yes. Could be drugs, could be anything, yes.

Ashley James (0:17:35.475)

But that really takes a lot of knowledge. First, just understanding the body, understanding remedies, understanding what the body might need. The practitioner is still very much the computer. The tool at the time was an incredible tool, but it wasn't intelligent in and of itself. So you still needed really smart practitioners. Because if a practitioner like an MD who's not trained in supplements or herbs or lifestyle medicine, if they only have drugs, they only have one slice of the pie. So even if they had this machine, they couldn't really serve that patient because they didn't know all the available possible remedies for that person. So the practitioner had to be really well -versed to be able to correctly identify what that person's body needed.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (0:18:28.881)

Well, honestly, that was one of the fun things about EAV was you learned that stuff really fast. For example, homeopathy. I'm an expert in homeopathy and I got that way in six months. The reason it only took me six months is because I was using EAV equipment instead of going in and memorizing the remedy and the rubrics, et cetera, I would just test and I'd say, okay, here's the energetic profile of this patient, and this remedy balanced it. So now I know that that matches. So it's a fast way to get a lot of knowledge, and honestly, that makes it kind of fun. But at the same time, not every practitioner likes to do that. It's not necessarily the most lucrative practice you could run.

Ashley James (0:19:27.428)

Well, you're helping people get better and then they don't come back, but they might send all their friends and family.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (0:19:31.964)

Well, that's true, but let's say that you're a chiropractor and you're making significant money adjusting people and then you take time to do this kind of assessment, you could probably adjust four or five patients while you're seeing one with the EAV equipment. So, you would get incorporated into practices. A practice like that may say, hey, we're going to hire a technician. They'll run the EAV equipment, et cetera. But. yes, you did have to know more. The biggest challenge frankly though was the point testing because when you're mechanically applying a stylus to an acupoint, you can manipulate the response. If you push hard, you'll get more electrons and the meter goes up. if you don't push as hard, you don't get as many electrons and the meter doesn't move as much.

So the practitioner was actually part of the circuit. A good practitioner would develop the ability to know where the point was, apply the stylus in a consistent way, and once applied, they would hold the pressure constantly and give the meter a chance to move. But in the process of becoming a good practitioner, you also became incredibly intuitive. It was because you were dealing with the body's energy and you would just gain an incredible sensitivity to the energetic situation or status of your patient. You would even get to the point where as you move the stylus to the point, you would know what the meter would indicate when you actually probe the point, you would know what's going to happen before you even did it so that was also one of the interesting things about it, but it was one of the challenging things about it too, because a patient who might be skeptical would watch this and they would experience the doctor pushing the stylus at the acupoint and they would see the meter change and they'd say, you just pushed harder or you just didn't push as hard.

The reason they would say that is because if you push on a point that's compromised, in other words, the part of the body that's associated with that point has a problem. The probing will actually be painful. So it can be an owie experience and then you put the remedy on the test plate or you bring it up on the computer and that's the balancing remedy, the pain goes away. So a patient, even though you're pushing as hard as you were, the patient will say, you just didn't push as hard, because it didn't hurt. Well, the reason it didn't hurt is because we've got the remedy in the circuit now.

But that was problematic because if somebody is not convinced that what you're doing is legitimate and you recommend a course of therapy to them, they're not going to follow through. if they don't follow through, they don't get the benefit. Unlike prescriptive medication where sometimes you say, hey, take this pill and it's going to make your headache go away, natural remedies sometimes take a couple of weeks to work. So you have to have a patient buy in and willing to follow through. If they think that the experience was bogus in the first place, they're just not going to follow through.

So, and that wasn't much of a problem really, because most people, , were me who would come into my clinic. They were there looking for help. Even if I said something that they thought was goofy, they're going to follow through because they want the help. Anyway, so we're back to Schimmel. Schimmel had developed this technique called using filters where you put the sarcode on the test plate.

When we got into the computerized library, we had the ability to use either technique. So you could use a direct Voll technique or you could use the filter technique. You could load a virtual item into the circuit and leave it there like a heart. Then you could go look for a solution or you could not put it in and just test on the heart meridian.

I'm thinking now as we progress forward, the biggest challenge as a manufacturer of the equipment, I was a clinician, I used it, but I was in the business of building this stuff and selling it. The biggest problem was the learning curve. It was a matter of finding practitioners who would be willing to commit themselves to the point of becoming experts and proficient.

Honestly, I just got tired of teaching doctors how to point test. I mean, I taught so many doctors how to point test and I was a guinea pig for a lot of them and some of them were pretty brutal as they were learning how to do it. I thought there's got to be a better way. So, I developed the Hand Cradle and the way the Hand Cradle started was I just built a model out of clay and the challenge was, okay, what are we measuring and how do we interpret the data? Because my background was EAV and I knew that forwards and backwards and up and down. I thought, well, the Hand Cradle is really just going to be the next evolution of EAV. So we're going to have things like an acute response, and a chronic response. We're going to have an indicator drop. We'll have all of those things we had with EAV. So I started to work on the Hand Cradle, and it didn't take me long to realize, no, we don't have any of that stuff. Now, let me tell you a little bit more about the Hand Cradle. It looks like a big mouse. It basically, when you look at it, that it's something you're supposed to put your hand on and it has at the palm, there's a conductive plate at the palm, that's the ground, and then there are five conductive plates that you put each of your five fingers on, and the computer then that runs the Hand Cradle, it runs an inquiry. So it'll measure the energy flow between the ground and your thumb and then the ground in your index finger, and then the ground in your middle finger, your ring finger, and your pinky. It does that over and over again, 50 times a second. What we're looking for is the relationship between each of those points. In other words, we're looking for the coherence that exists between them. When we take the measurement off of the Hand Cradle, we measure a baseline. So we say, okay, your baseline coherence is X. Then what we do is we introduced a stimulus, and the stimulus would be whatever you've selected to be in the circuit. So something out of the database in the computer. Then we measure the coherent state again, and that's called the response. Then we calculate, well did this stimulus make the baseline move to a more coherent or a less coherent position? If it moved to a more coherent position, we give it a plus. If it moved to a less coherent position, we give it a minus. Then we can also determine how plus or how minus.

So let's say that I'm in Bill Roberson's office again and he's using the Hand Cradle. Well he could say, okay, let's just load in all the plants and run a scan. Maybe he's got 300 plants. We run about two items a second. So in 150 seconds, he'll go through a list of 300 plants and he'll see the scores for all 300 plus, minus, and then how plus and how minus. He can say, all right, the ones that are the most minus, those are the ones that created the most decoherence when they were introduced into your energy field. So we're going to start with those. It may have been Oleander, it may have been Pyracantha that showed up, but it gives him now the information that he needs to begin me on a journey of healing using energy medicine techniques. So the measurement process, I mean it took about six months to figure out the algorithm that actually does what I just explained. When I got done, I realized that you cannot measure acute, you can't measure chronic, because we can't see an indicator drop. All we're getting is pluses or minuses on coherence. What we really have with that Hand Cradle is we have a very sophisticated automated kinesiology machine that tells you yes, no, and it tells you how yes and how no and it runs a comparison so you can see that you really like this, but you really like this better.

So the value of it is, there's really three values, I think. The first one was it cut the learning curve down to zero. I mean, you can learn how to run a software program in probably 30 minutes if you're comfortable with computers. You don't have to master point testing because the practitioner is not part of the circuit. That's the second advantage. The second advantage is no patient is going to be saying, you pushed harder because nobody's pushing. The last thing is it gives you more speed. I got pretty fast with EAV, but that's just because I did it a lot but I'm way faster with the new technology, with the Hand Cradle, because it runs at computer speed. It runs a lot faster than I do.

Ashley James (0:31:12.759)

So let's go through some examples. Let's say a woman has a hormone imbalance and she hasn't got any labs. She doesn't want to be put on drugs necessarily. She just wants to know how she could bring her body back into balance and maybe her cycle’s off or she's got PMS or she thinks she's going into pre-menopause but something's up. Is that too general? Not really knowing what the problem is or can someone use this technology sort of having a general idea of what the problem could be, but the root cause might not even be in hormones, it could just be something disrupting hormones like stress and then what's actually creating the stress. So you have to go upstream to find the root cause. How would you know what to plug into the ZYTO software for the Hand Cradle?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (0:32:06.123)

Well, there are two approaches. One approach is a practitioner will say, I don't want to know anything about the patient until we run the scan because I don't want my interpretation to be biased by what they're thinking. My approach is just the opposite. I want to know what the patient is thinking, what they're experiencing. Do you have a diagnosis from somebody else? What is it? I want to know those things because, when the results come in, I want to be able to relate the results I see to what they think in a way that makes it understandable and credible for them. Back to your question, a woman comes in and she's got hormonal issues, I do acupuncture on her. Acupuncture is really good for that kind of stuff, but there's lots of things that are good for it. I need to say Ashley, the technology is not approved and frankly it's not researched enough for me as a manufacturer to make a claim that it is diagnostic or curative. So yes, you can do what I'm going to tell you here in a minute, but let's say that a doctor ran a ZYTO scan and the woman was having these problems then something happened, she decided to sue the doctor and they went to court. the attorney said to the doctor, well, how did you come up with your diagnosis? He said, well, I ran the ZYTO scan and that's what it indicated. Well, that's not a legitimate defense because the ZYTO technology is not approved to diagnose any particular disease. The reason it's not is because we have not pursued approval because it would be too overwhelming. It's more valuable to a practitioner to have a tool that points you in the right direction than something that gives you the diagnosis. So if I run a scan on a patient and it shows certain things, I'm not going to say, this means you have this disease. It means, well, let's look here first and let's see if we can start to solve your problem by applying what we're seeing. Then if I have to go to court and they say, how did you establish your diagnosis? I would say, well, it was the intake process and it was the labs that I ran and it included the ZYTO, but I made the diagnosis. That's the proper answer there.

Ashley James (0:35:13.497)

Right. Yes, it guides you. Then you as a practitioner would want to follow up with labs to confirm your findings. You do have FDA, your FDA cleared as a wellness scanner. I know you kind of had the lawyers behind you whispering in your ear just now, you can't say this diagnosed treats, cures or whatever, but it guides and gives information in a really non-invasive way. then of course a practitioner would want to continue down the road of labs and discovery. Can you tell us a bit about the FDA clearance you do have?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (0:35:45.207)

Well, the Hand Cradle is registered with the FDA as a GSR device, Galvanic Skin Response. That's what it does. It just measures galvanic skin response.

That doesn't mean that we can make a diagnosis. It just means we can measure galvanic skin response. When I make the disclaimer, when I let you know that this is not diagnostic and it doesn't treat disease, that's not a tongue in cheek disclaimer. It's really true. A doctor cannot make a definitive diagnosis based on a ZYTO scan. It doesn't do that.

I'll tell you how it works in my practice. I run a scan and if I suspect something, then usually I just run a clinical trial. I don't necessarily back things up with more lab work. If I see something that I think is serious, I'll refer people to someone with more expertise in those areas than me. But most of the time, if you get an energetic profile of a patient with sufficient detail, you will have enough guidance to be able to build a clinical trial that will have a positive impact.

Let's go back to Bill Roberson and his scan and he made the remedy and he said, well, it's probably Oleander and Pyracantha and here's your remedy, let's give it a try. So he doesn't have to say you're allergic to Oleander and Pyracantha, he's just saying, this is what I'm seeing, let's see if this fixes the problem because if it does, that was probably the problem. So you can run a clinical trial without doing a ton of lab work as long as you're not doing something that is dangerous to the patient.

Most of the time, that's what I do. So I'll get a profile through the intake process, through a physical exam. You can know your patients pretty well, of course, with experience, you get better at it, but that's how it works. What we're getting with the ZYTO technology is we're getting an energetic picture of what we call biological preference. So it's not the same as diagnostic information. It's no, your biological preference is that you don't like this or you do like this. If it's a supplement and you do like it, well then let's try it and see if it helps you improve your health.

If a supplement shows up or a remedy or an herb or whatever, that's where the practitioner's knowledge comes in because if you see somebody who comes in and they're having terrible pain and they're having spasms and you test them and magnesium shows up, you go, well, that makes sense. So let's give you some magnesium. But if something weird shows up that you don't have any knowledge of, you might go and study it. See, and that's the cool part. You then study it and you go, I'll be darned. It does actually have an impact on that stuff. So now you're smarter. We're looking at biological preferences and that helps establish then the clinical trial that you might run with a patient.

Ashley James (0:40:04.617)

That's fascinating. Thinking about frequency and the kinesiology or like the body is able to communicate its biological preferences. I really would love some more magnesium, or I really would love some more leafy green vegetables and all the nutrients inside that, or my body does not like coffee or my body dislikes mold, it's having a strong reaction.

Years ago, I read the book, The Cancer Cure That Worked. That's a really tiny book. You can read it all in one session, but it'll blow your mind. How he had discovered that using frequency, he could explode cancer cells. For example, he figured out the frequency of that cancer, the specific cancer in a mouse, then using frequency nullifies it. He would do that with other illnesses. He'd figure out the frequency of that illness and then nullify it with the exact opposite frequency.

All of his research was taken from him by an unnamed government agency and destroyed. It's just wild when we see that so many times when we're onto something big like this, it's wiped out. I sincerely hope that you are protected, your technology is protected, that no unnamed government agency comes after you.

This isn’t new, this concept, the concept of frequency and even kinesiology is something we've actually been doing for quite a while. There's different ways that different practitioners have tapped into this. I've experienced that Nate type of acupressure and using the vials and frequency to retrain the body.

I didn't have a hundred percent positive experience with Nate and actually I don't know anyone who has, but I just still thought it was really interesting. I've had several practitioners use kinesiology on me and my family very accurately. You say, for example, hold up your arm and then you're going to hold this supplement and I can tell you what it is. Then my arms just cannot stay up. It just drops. I lose all the weakness. All the weakness returns to my arm. Then gives me a different remedy.

My arm's super strong. I've had that experience where the body is very clearly communicating what it wants and what it doesn't want. So you've created this in a way that's super easy for a patient and for the clinician to work together instead of having to hold the person's arm and push on the person's arm. Then that person thinks, well, you could just be pushing harder or using that device, or the early on the Voll, where you could just be pushing harder.

This takes all the guesswork, plus it's so quick that you can go through so many plans. I don't know if it was the exact same, and this is back in the 90s, and I sat there for three hours as this machine ran through. I had to wear these electrodes on my body and on my fingers. This was so long ago, it was the late 90s. It took the computer hours and hours and hours to process. Then it gave me this reading: Here's the foods you shouldn't eat and here's the foods you should eat and here's the supplements you should take. So it's been this concept of tapping into the body and the body's biofeedback is really cool. It gives it credibility. It's not new. That's always been inside the body and practitioners have been looking at different ways of tapping into it. You've tapped into it in a way that is very replicable. Now, when did the Cradle first come out? Because you've had it around for a while,

Dr. Vaughn Cook (0:44:26.534)

Yes, I think I started working on it in about 2000 and I think we had it built and released in 2004. So we've had it out for 20 years.

Ashley James (0:44:42.670)

Yes, 20 years, nice. So in that time, you've evolved the software, you've gotten a lot of great feedback, obviously you as a practitioner as well. It's great that you so readily work with the technology that you've had a hand in creating. You've evolved this technology though recently, and I want to talk about its recent evolution into the app that I have had the experience with. Can we talk about that?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (0:45:13.771)

Yes, yes, we were always looking for better ways to accomplish the objective. The objective is to determine biological preferences so people can make smarter decisions on an individual basis.

When do we start this? It could have been seven years ago anyway. We started working on a new technology that allows us to create unique scans without hardware. The first thing we did was we developed a scanning algorithm. That's just a mathematical formula that says, okay, if you start here and go down this list, rank these things according to a response. But in order to make it unique, because if that's where we stopped, every time you run a scan, it would be exactly the same, because our mathematical formula is set, it doesn't change.

In order to make it unique, we had to have some real-time biometric input that would modify that algorithm in a way that for you it would be different than it is for me, and for you it would be different today than it would be yesterday, or is going to be tomorrow. So we looked for other feedback loops that we were familiar with, and I will tell you, we have one technology, it's called EVOX.

That's been around for 15, 16 years. We've got a lot of experience with it. So what it does is it, it does perception reframing and we use voice as the primary input and the primary feedback loop. It turns out that voice is topic specific and voice requires your entire anatomy to make.

If I'm going to say something, I have to think about it. Then I have to engage my thorax and my vocal mechanisms. Sometimes I move my hands and I might put some body language in there. But by the time you actually hear the voice when I'm expressing, all the information, all the perceptions, all the beliefs about that topic are carried in the energy of my voice. You may have had the experience of listening to somebody speak and you go, eh, this just doesn't sound quite right. There's something goofy here. When you have that experience, more often than not, what you're sensing is that the words you are hearing do not match the energy that you're feeling.

In other words, this person is probably either lying or they're hiding something. You can pick that up. Well, what happens with EVOX is that the most common clinical application is that every disease process has an emotional component.

Most of those emotional components exist because of a perception that we have. If we can reframe the perception, then it will release the emotional component to the health condition. So to give you an example, I remember a woman who came into my clinic, she had chronic low back pain and had it for 20 years at least. She had been all over the country. She spent thousands of dollars trying to get relief and nothing worked.

So when she came into the clinic, we put her on a program, we're going to do the right remedies, the right supplements. We're going to do some acupuncture massage and we're going to do EVOX. So we had a particular protocol we put her on for perception reframing.

It turns out that this woman, when she was a child, was born into an incredibly dysfunctional family. As a child, she took on the perception that it was her fault. So as the child who was the recipient of all this dysfunction, she felt responsible. I don't know if this is actually the case because this EVOX is not psychoanalysis. You don't get into people's heads. But based on my experience with this patient, I think that she was holding on to her low back pain because it was her subconscious way of punishing herself for the dysfunction that she experienced as a child.

As soon as that perception was reframed, all of our therapies started to work. In three weeks, frankly, in three weeks, this woman was out of pain. Well, why couldn't anybody else do this? Well, she probably went to some really smart places and they did some really incredible things. But the problem was she sabotaged everything that happened because she had to hold onto the pain as punishment. Well, that's what perception reframing does.

So we had a lot of experience with voice and we knew that voice was absolutely unique. so we built a technology that used voice as the primary biometric input that was then appended to our algorithm. So when you would run the scan, we would then prioritize the results in a way that was unique to you at that point in time. Then we took it a little bit further and we said, well, if we can do this with voice, we should be able to do this with other biometric inputs. Well, it turns out that your pulse rate is uniquely biometric, the variability in your heart rate is unique to you at any moment in time. Your blood pressure is unique. There's all kinds of things and all of these things, it turns out, can be read by pointing a camera on a phone at your face and the camera then records this information. It takes about 30 seconds.

We then take all of that information, we turn it into a mathematical attachment that then gets appended to our scanning algorithm, and boom, we run the scan that way. I think that's probably what you experienced. You pointed at your face and the little circle went around and said, hey, we got your reading and away you go.

Ashley James (0:52:43.324)

Going back to what you said about your patient with the chronic back pain, I had a similar experience about 16 years ago, I worked with a client who came in with absolute chronic back pain and they wanted to do some major surgery, fuse her back and I palpated her lower back and her quadratus lumborum on one side was hard as a rock and cold.

It was ischemic, there was no blood flow. It was just minimal blood flow. The other side was soft and pink and malleable.

I had recently dived into the world of Dr. John E. Sarno's book, Healing Back Pain, where he figured out that there's no anatomical reason why people should have back pain and even the surgeries were a failure, but they noted ischemia. They noted that there was an emotional component that was unconscious to the patient but when you get to the root cause and you, you said, you do the reframing and you get to resolve and release that negative emotion, the unconscious mind lets go of the muscle. The unconscious mind is holding on to, is creating the ischemia, is creating the chronic pain. So I did a whole breakthrough session with her, did emotional work.

I'm a master practitioner and trainer in NLP and timeline therapy.When we got to guilt and I noticed every time she talked about things that she felt guilty about, her pain would go up. because I'd always ask her, and what on a scale of one to 10, where's your pain? So when we got to releasing guilt, her pain went from an eight to a zero. I went, okay, can I feel your back? She stood up, lifted her shirt up so I could palpate the lumbar spine. I saw they would go from white to pink. I saw the blood flow come back in and I felt her back and both sides were warm.

That was the day she ended. Now she has been on Tylenol 3s for over 15 years daily. She no longer needed her pain meds and it was so cool. That was my first experience helping someone out of chronic pain from an emotional event.

When you say that by this technology that listens to your voice, that it could then help us pinpoint where the unconscious trauma and help reframe them. That is so beautiful because how many people are walking around on meds when their problem lies in the emotional mental body.

We have layers of our consciousness, layers of our healing, layers of our existence. We have an energetic body, spiritual body, we have a physical body, mental body, and emotional body, and yet most medicine is just in the physical body. But that's not necessarily where the root is and where the healing needs to be. So we should really not discredit the work we could be doing on the energetic level, emotional level, mental level and spiritual level. So many times healing takes place there. Then as a result, we have healing in the physical body.

I love that this technology is something that's readily available. Now, talking about the scan. So yes, Jennifer Saltzman at takeyoursupplements.com gave me access to the scan. If anyone listening wants to try it, please go to takeyoursupplements.com. You can talk to Jennifer for free, you can have a free consultation with her. She's wonderful. She makes using this technology affordable and she's just a pleasure to work with and all the other coaches there are as well.

She gave me access to this app and it was very easy to use. Then after 30 seconds of holding my phone, it has to be a newer phone. It can't be a 15 year old phone or whatever. It has to be a newer one. It has a better camera, but it then showed my pulse rate, my breath rate. It listed off all these things. It's reading those micro movements, even though I was being as still as possible. It was reading so many things about me, but there's more than just the metrics there that we can see.

It started telling me, where in my health I'm weaker and I could use some more support and where I'm doing well and it linked me to specific herbs, essential oils, supplements, and even therapies that would best serve me to come back into balance. It was very insightful. So can you tell me a bit about how a technology that's observing my face for 30 seconds could be so insightful?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (0:57:57.105)

Well, it's the same approach. What we're looking for is biological preference. So again, it's not diagnostic. When you look at that report, we're not saying, you've got a problem in your heart or you've got a digestive problem. What we're saying is your response to this item, we call it a library item, but as we scanned all of these items, you showed a less than optimum result.

In other words, your biological preference for digestion, let's say, that was your weakest link or that was your lowest response. Therefore, we're going to pay more attention to that because the answer is, why do you respond that way? Then we look for the opposite with supplements. Okay, what supplements are you showing a high biological preference for? Then we can match the two up where, well, if we put this supplement in the circuit with this digestive component or these digestive components, what kind of an effect does it have? If it has a normative effect, then you'll see that the biological preference goes up in the digestive side. We say, okay, well, that's a positive influence.

So, the recommendation is this supplement. Again, it's not saying, you have this disease and this cures it. It's just your biological preference indicates to us that you're weaker here and this supplement resolves that weakness.

Ashley James (0:59:42.517)

What's interesting about working with Jennifer Saltzman at takeyoursupplements.com, she had determined what she thought would be best for me. Then a lot of it was confirmed with, based on her, the questionnaire where we go through and we figure out, the symptoms of your body is a language. Your body is always speaking to us. Our body is always communicating. We just have to know how to hear it. So some of the things she already intuitively knew based on those metrics would be good and then it was confirmed in this scan. Then there were a few that surprised both of us, but made sense once we looked at it. It was, yes, that would actually be a really good therapy or supplement or herb or whatever it was listing off. But it was detailed and really interesting.

How often could someone get a scan? So let's say you get a scan and you integrate the top five supplements or herbs or essential oils, and then you go for some of the top holistic therapies that are listed as the most beneficial for you at the time. You're doing that on a regular basis. Would they rescan once a month, once a week, every day? How does that work to optimally guide us?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:01:06.503)

I would say you want to do it maybe every four to six weeks. Here's the reason. Your body moves energetically very quickly. Energy is the most yang component of your body, which means it's the fastest to move. Your tissue is the most yin. That means it's the slowest to move. When you introduce therapy into your being, you're going to move your energy very quickly. But it might take two weeks for your tissue to make the change.

So if you're scanning, and the scan is an energetic scan, we're taking energetic information and then converting it into this algorithm to make the scan. So if I scan today and I started a supplement regime, and then I scanned tomorrow and changed my supplement regime and then scanned the next day and made a change appropriately, I would actually make myself sick because my body would never catch up to my energetic position. So when a patient comes in, if I'm going to give them some supplements that are intended to last for four weeks, I don't want to do another scan on them until they've had a chance to take all those supplements because some people respond quickly, but most people, it can take up to two weeks for supplements to actually start doing their work. The other reason is I don't want patients to come in and if I scan and say, you need some new supplements and they haven't finished the ones I gave them, they're going to think, he's just trying to sell me a bunch of supplements. That's not the purpose. The purpose is to help you get better. Let's give your body time to use what's recommended before we look for a new recommendation. The short answer is every four to six weeks is enough.

Ashley James (1:03:18.325)

Yes, I thought it was really interesting. My son, the top five things were actually herbs and essential oils, nothing to do with supplements for him. That was really neat to see. My husband was a combination of herbs and essential oils. I had some supplements that I'd already been taking and then a few more plant extracts. So it's not always, here, you got to take your vitamins. , it's not for everyone. It's different, which I thought was just really neat because again, that skeptic in me is going, this 30 second camera scan on my face. What are you going to tell me? Surprisingly a lot. I want to understand a little bit more about this technology because I can grasp that if my hands are on a cradle and there's five finger pads on the ground, I can understand, okay, the computer is doing these frequencies into my hands and it's a galvanic skin response and it's testing my physiology against these frequencies of these different therapeutics. I can understand that, but I still don't 100% understand how the camera scanning my face is testing me against that. Can we go a bit deeper? Is this proprietary?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:04:43.950)

Well, no, we can go deeper. It's really a continuum. You mentioned it earlier, most of what medicine does is it just addresses the physical body. It doesn't look at any of these other things. But we all access all of those things all the time in our daily lives. I mean, your son may walk in and you look at him and say, wow, you don't look like you feel well.

He doesn't have to say, hey, I'm not feeling well. You can see it. You may know intuitively what you need to do to help him feel better because you have a connection with him and it comes through.

As a practitioner who uses energy medicine on a regular basis, I mentioned earlier, you get really intuitive. I don't have to touch a patient to tell you where the problem is. I can just run my hand half inch and inch above their body, and as I run it down, I'll tell you, that's a problem, that's a problem. That has come just from, I mean, it may be something I was born with, but it's come in a lot in just practice.

The subtle things are as meaningful as the grosser things. The emotional health is a telling indicator, just like the physical health is a telling indicator, the symptoms. Symptoms are just the body's best attempt at dealing with the current situation. So the reason when you get a cold is because you manifest the symptoms of a cold, which is your body's best attempt to deal with the cold.

Emotional symptoms are the same. Energetic symptoms are the same. So you can measure things at these more subtle levels. But remember, what we're looking for when we take that data that comes out of the camera, we take your pulse rate, we actually take your blood pressure, we take your heart rate variability, we take your respiration. All of those things are unique to you at that point in time.

That data then is appended to our scanning algorithm, which then runs the scan that determines your biological preferences. So we're taking the input that we get from the camera, and we're then applying it in a way that creates the scan.

Ashley James (1:07:24.361)

Is it scanning your eye at all, like your geology or is it scanning meridians or blood flow, micro blood flow to parts of the face? What is it reading when it's observing the face?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:07:43.368)

Well, there are multiple points on the face that it targets. Then it reads changes in things that occur at those points. Mostly it's blood flow. Mostly it's respiration. But there's a tremendous amount of information you can pick up from those inputs.

Ashley James (1:08:03.375)

So it's picking up information, but maybe you could explain. So it's different from the Hand Cradle because the Hand Cradle, my understanding is this is a bit of a biofeedback, It's giving a stimulus and then testing the response.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:08:17.765)

Right.

Ashley James (1:08:19.581)

In the face scan, is it doing the same thing or is this simply gathering information? How does it do that biofeedback where it goes, Ashley likes lavender essential oil or Ashley would really benefit from more magnesium. How does it read that? Because we're using our own smartphone to scan our face.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:08:41.625)

The difference is it's a different algorithm. The Hand Cradle uses an algorithm that is a stimulus response. The new technology, the link, uses the real-time unique biometric input to append an algorithm that will then run the scan in its completion, start to finish. Then the scan, because of the way the algorithm is built, then after the fact, we go back and run the comparative scan. So instead of doing it in real time, it's all done after the fact, if that makes sense.

Ashley James (1:09:23.762)

I mean, I understand the words that are coming out of your mouth, but how I understand kinesiology, I am not the expert in this. You're the expert. I just want to make sure all the listeners grasp it. So with kinesiology, you say, okay, body, do you like magnesium? The body goes, yes, I like magnesium. It's giving that response back, that biofeedback is happening. So you're saying that it's testing it after the fact?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:10:01.036)

Yes.

Ashley James (1:10:02.799)

I don't fully understand how that works, but I'm so eager to figure it out. If you could maybe break this down a bit so I could understand it.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:10:14.806)

It's kind of like Schrodinger's cat. We lean more and more as we continue to develop the technology. We lean more and more onto the quantum concepts and quantum applications. So it really is the experiment with the cat. If you open it, the cat dies, and if you don't, the cat lives. But you can run things in a way that time is, I'm trying to think of the right way to say this, time becomes less of a factor.

Ashley James (1:11:05.229)

Fascinating. The observation of the universe changes the outcome. That's what they see in quantum physics. So when it scans the face and then it runs the algorithm it doesn't matter about time so much because then it's seeing this is the response to these things, which blows my mind, but I believe in quantum physics. So I'm all for this.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:11:33.707)

Yes. The other cool thing about us is at a conscious level, we process about 200,000 pieces of information a second. At a subconscious level, we process over 400 million pieces a second. So we're at least 2,000 times smarter than we think. In other words, the smartest part of me is the part of me that I don't have any conscious connection to. Because we're tapping into quantum fields and making applications from those theories, we're not talking to you consciously. We're talking to you subconsciously. So you can give us information that may be timeless. We can create a scan that then warps time in a way that the scan comes out with information that's valuable, because we do show you your biological preference and to some degree cause and effect. Again, it's not diagnostic. We're not trying to tell you you have this disease and this is the cure. All we're saying is your biological preference indicates you're weak here, you like this, if we put the two together, this is what happens to your biological preference.

Ashley James (1:12:52.774)

Why is there a need for us for a re-scans if there's no need for time?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:13:02.018)

Well, we're not completely timeless, Ashley. Yes, and I think that as we evolve as humans, we might become more timeless in our concepts and applications. But I do find, as a person, I do find comfort in getting an update that I can see at a conscious level and making conscious decisions about. So I think it's all part and parcel the same.

Ashley James (1:13:39.825)

So I love that you thought, hey, how can we take this to the next level? Everyone has a smartphone in their hand. How can we make it really accessible? This is before the pandemic when everyone was doing telehealth. You started developing this. So this is something where you can work with a practitioner anywhere around the world. That's really neat. That makes it very, very accessible. Can you give some stories of success or recent experiences where this technology brought great insight and helped that person get closer to their true health.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:14:22.562)

I remember a young woman who was probably in her, I guess she was in her early 30s. She was very compromised, very weak. She had been to a lot of places and she got temporary help, but nothing seemed to work.

I ran a scan on her and it was obvious to me that she was so weak that it would be very easy to over-treat her. So what I ended up doing, I ended up scanning her acupoints. I took the acupoint that was showing the most positive response. In other words, this points to the one that she was really most interested in having treated.

Then I took my smallest needle and I put that needle in that point. About five minutes later, I took the needle out and said, okay, you're done for today. Come on back. Now see, I was treating this woman energetically. So the next day I had her come back in again. If I was treating her with supplements, I would not have done it this way. But I was concerned about over-treating her with any kind of supplements. So the next day I had her come back in. I did the same thing.

Then I moved into some homeopathic remedies, and then I moved into some supplements. Well, this woman, I'm trying to think how long it took us to get her turned around, maybe six, eight weeks.

I didn't see her every day. I did the next day and the day after that. But then I said, okay, come back in three days. So maybe twice a week I was seeing her. I was just spoon feeding her baby steps. We took her from a basket case to back to full functioning. She was actually suffering from chronic fatigue is what it amounted to. It was just a different approach to chronic fatigue.

Another woman, a young woman in her late 20s came into the clinic. We were doing a fair amount of EVOX work and she had heard about it. She came in because her marriage was on the rocks. So I did a scan on her and the supplements that showed up and the scan results made me suspicious that she was suffering from some kind of mood disorder, some depression. I said, have you had any depression? She said, yes. She said, I had my second child about six months ago and I've been suffering from postpartum depression ever since. I said, okay, well, these remedies make sense. We'll give you these.

Then we did an EVOX session. There's a particular protocol that's called transgenerational perception reframing. I won't tell you the whole protocol, but the bottom line is it turns out that her mother was the first person that we wanted to reframe. So she went through the process, reframed on her mother, and went on her way. She had the supplements, and I said, okay, I'll see you in a week. She came back a week later.

She looked better. She had more shin in her eyes. She had more light in her eyes and her complexion was brighter. I said, hey, you look better. How are you feeling? She said, I'm feeling better. But she said a funny thing happened last week. When I went home, my mom called. Then she stopped and she paused to see if I would react. I didn't react. Okay, your mom called. Then she said, and we talked for two hours. She stopped again and looked for my reaction. I didn't react because I've got four daughters and they can talk to their mom for two hours too. So what? She said, no, you don't understand. She said, my mom and I hate each other.

If she calls me on the phone, which never happens, in 30 seconds we're screaming at each other. So the fact that she called the day I went home was crazy. The fact that we could talk for two hours was a miracle. Well, that's what happens when you do perception reframing. It actually changes your energy posture, which then changes your field position in the zero point field and all kinds of amazing things happen.

But we got her past the depression. Her marriage hit solid ground and it was good. Her husband owned his own business and I think they were having some financial problems, but that was resolved. We got her past the postpartum stuff and she was a happy camper.

It's a lot of fun to do holistic medicine because you see changes in people's lives that are beyond just the symptoms. It's really gratifying. I love what I do.

Ashley James (1:19:56.697)

Could practitioners learn how to do EVOX and then do it virtually, not in person? Or do you have to be in person to do EVOX with them?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:20:10.164)

No, all of our technology can be used remotely, including EVOX. So with EVOX, I could be here in my clinic on my computer. You could be at your home, and we could run an EVOX session between the two of us.

Ashley James (1:20:30.368)

Oh my gosh. That's so neat. Years ago, and her name escapes me, I did an interview with this woman who was a PhD and she had figured out that she created a computer program that could listen to anyone's voice and the computer program would say, what's up with that person? So if someone's about to have a heart attack or someone has, for example, cancer or some sort of real major disruption in their body. It could pick that up in the voice. That's why I started to learn, there's so much we don't see, but that makes sense because you said, you can hear someone and get a gut feeling something's off or, I think it's 64, 68% of communications unconscious that we're observing micro changes in the face. There's blood flow changes as we talk, as emotions go through us. There's different blood flow will enter different parts of the face that micro muscles will tighten and relax. We don't do it consciously. But unconsciously we can perceive that in others and we can hear it in people's voices. So it's so interesting that we could tap into and listen to someone and get this deep information about what's going on in the unconscious in order to help them come to some major healing.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:22:03.372)

Yes, it turns out that words are probably the least significant aspect of voice. People who are listening to us, they know what part of the world you were born in because of your accent, and for me too. They know that you're a woman and I'm a man. I bet they could guess our age within five years. They know our general state of health and they know what kind of a mood we're in. They know if we're enjoying this conversation. All of those things, we don't have to express in words. That just comes through. It takes maybe three or four words, and you can know all those things. So the voice has an incredible amount of information.

Ashley James (1:22:47.646)

A few months ago, my husband's family, who is from Chile and speaks Spanish, came to visit for a few weeks. I don't speak Spanish. I know how to ask for where the bathroom is, but that's pretty much it. They were trying to be polite and speak English, when the family was talking amongst themselves, they were always talking Spanish. I couldn't believe how much I could understand based on body language, based on the tone of their voice, based on how they were looking at each other. I could really pick up on a lot of the communication. I played a game of guess what they're talking about. A few times I interjected and answered a question in English accurately, because the mom was asking the daughter or something like that. I would interject and be like they have this on the menu or the bathrooms over there or we're going to go do that after this activity and they'd look at me and then they'd scan me with their eyes up and down. Does she understand us? I had so much fun with that. It's really interesting how much you can pick up when I'm just going to see how much I can perceive. See how much my unconscious mind can let me know about this communication.

Then I also just didn't care if I got it wrong. I was just going to jump in and pretend. I knew what they were talking about and I couldn't believe how many times I got it right. So there is so much more to our supercomputer between our ears than we even understand. We're just scratching the surface and understanding. I love that you're tapping into this with people.

Where do you see this technology going? Where do you see the evolution of this taking us?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:24:46.457)

Well, hopefully to a healthier place. The goal really is to improve the quality of life for patients and practitioners, and that's the goal. If we can improve physical health, emotional health, mental health, that would make the world a better place.

Ashley James (1:25:09.194)

How accurate is the ZYTO app scan? Have you tested it against labs and been like well, is that person really deficient in this? Or is there a way that you have figured out the accuracy of it? Are there times it's wrong when it comes to like, it'll say, you have unresolved anger, resolve it. Well, I don't feel angry. I don't know why it would say that, or is that really unconscious and it's deep in there and it's letting me know that there's something I don't even know about myself. So I'm just wondering, through the years have you tested its accuracy?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:25:55.395)

Validation is primarily clinical. The challenge is that energy precedes everything else. You probably have said, I feel I'm coming down with something. Lo and behold, two days later, you got full on symptoms. Then you say, yes, I feel I've turned the corner. I feel better. then two days later, you're better.

Well, when you say I feel, that's because you're sensing your energy shift. There isn't a lab that can test an energy shift. There may be, but we haven't looked for one. But what we're doing is we're measuring energetic input. So the most valid evidence that we are accurate, within an acceptable degree is that clinically the data is validated. In other words, the person comes in with cramps, magnesium shows up, you give them magnesium and their cramps go away. That's clinical evidence that the information we got was accurate or had value. So what we tell people is, I can guarantee that the information is consistent because it's based on solid mathematical formulas that don't change. The thing that we don't claim is, again, to be diagnosing a disease or identifying a treatment for a disease. But we do get data that has value clinically because over the years we've been doing this, our customers and my own experience, it bears it out. It does have value. You get coincidental stuff, you mentioned with your son or your husband. You run the scan and you go, I'll be darned. This makes a lot of sense. I mean, you just see that. You see that kind of stuff.

Ashley James (1:28:09.532)

Yes, and there's no harm in it. There's no invasiveness whatsoever. Everything it's recommending is helpful. So you're either going to get positive results or no results, but at least, it's not taking a pharmaceutical and having negative results. We're moving in a positive direction with some good feedback. We're just looking for what's the body communicating? How can we listen to the body in a new way, in a deeper way and help it come back into balance? I love that you say, it's really picking up on that energetic field, which is where everything starts, and then we're helping the body come back into balance. We're also helping the energetic body come back into balance.

I've had that experience. I had a client, we just helped her energetic body come back into balance and all her physical symptoms went away within 24 hours. Boom! She had been suffering for six years and all it took was an energetic shift. That was just wild wild. The symptoms are late but the treatment wasn't physical, the treatment was energetic. So it's just really fascinating. A lot of people who don't understand that our body is an electrical being, it sounds like new age. For some people, it's anti-Christian. It's new age. This is what the Bible warns us against. I'm , I am all for making sure that what you're doing is in alignment with your religion. I happen to be a Christian. But I also understand Jesus lay hands and healed and he said, you are going to do this too. You will do greater things. It's like our birthright as Christians is to do healing. So we have to recognize that we're not just physical meat sacks, that we are these spiritual beings living in this beautiful body that was gifted to us by God, that's my belief.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:30:29.041)

Yes, me too.

Ashley James (1:30:31.578)

Know that you are more than this meat sack. You are so much more. If you've never had an experience with the energetic realm, if you've ever landed in a clinic or a hospital where they had to attach electrodes to you, guess what? They were measuring energy in your body. It's just amazing. We of course have energy in our body. They talk about how much electricity it takes to run our brain.

I can't remember how many batteries, but it was a handful of D cell batteries, what the body has to produce to run the nervous system. Of course we're electrical beings. So we have a physical body, but we have so much more than that. We are so much more than that. Just make sure that the medicine that you're using addresses not just your physical body, but it's bringing your whole being back into balance.

I love that this is another way to guide us, to listen to the body and guide us. Dr. Vaughn Cook, is there anything else you want to make sure that you convey that you share about the technology, the ZYTO, the EVO? So you've got the Hand Cradle. There's also this app. So those who are listening who are practitioners can plug into this and use this technology, either in person or virtually with their clients. Then for those who are not practitioners who want to experience this for themselves, please go to takeyoursupplements.com. They'll make it very affordable, very affordable for you to experience this and to be guided also by the practitioners and health coaches to help you determine what path to go on in terms of supplements and diet and lifestyle to support your body's ability to heal itself. Speak to those who are super interested. Is there anything else you wanted to make sure that you conveyed today?

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:32:40.590)

Wow, we had a fun time, Ashley. I think we've conveyed a lot of stuff. I guess it works. Maybe that's the final message. That's sometimes the most amazing thing about it, is that it actually makes a difference. It actually works in a clinical setting. For people who just want to have better health, it does make sense to listen to your body on an individual basis.

Ashley James (1:33:11.927)

Right. It's such a non -invasive approach, it's worth giving it a try. It's worth exploring. I love that. Just be willing to try new things and see what happens. So thank you so much for coming on the show. This has been such a pleasure. I'm very much looking forward to having you back when you come out with new technology that you want to come share with us. We would love to have you.

Dr. Vaughn Cook (1:33:42.333)

I'll make a note of that Ashley, it'll be fun to be back.

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521 Quantum Physics Meets Holistic Medicine, Dr. Vaughn Cook Shares Cutting-Edge Biofeedback Technology That Reads Your Body's Needs