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Alexandr Wang: Building Scale AI, Transforming Work with Agents & Competing With China

2025/6/18
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Alexander Wang: 我在 MIT 读书期间就开始对人工智能产生了浓厚的兴趣,并参与了 YC 孵化项目。最初,我们想为医生开发聊天机器人,但很快发现构建聊天机器人需要大量的数据和人工。于是,我们转变方向,专注于为其他公司提供数据和语言数据服务。我们推出了 ScaleAPI.com,这是一个为人类任务提供 API 的平台,并在 Product Hunt 上发布。这个想法在当时引起了创业界的关注。几个月后,我们意识到自动驾驶汽车是一个重要的应用领域,并决定专注于这个市场。尽管当时有人认为这个市场太小,但我们相信自动驾驶是未来,并最终成功地将 Scale AI 打造成一家大型企业。 Jared: 很多人都想成为下一个 Alexander Wang,因为大家都知道你从 MIT 退学并创立 Scale 的故事,但他们并不知道真正的故事。

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This chapter traces Alexandr Wang's path from his time at MIT to founding Scale AI, highlighting his early exposure to AI, his decision to drop out of MIT, and the initial challenges and pivots that shaped the company's trajectory. It emphasizes the early focus on self-driving cars and the unexpected success of the 'API for human labor' concept.
  • Alexandr Wang dropped out of MIT to start Scale AI.
  • Scale AI initially focused on chatbots for doctors before pivoting to an API for human labor.
  • Self-driving cars became Scale AI's first major application, driven by a large contract with Cruise.
  • Early investors doubted the self-driving market's potential but Scale AI's rapid growth proved them wrong.

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Alexandr Wang started Scale AI to help machine learning teams label data faster.It started as a simple API for human labor, but behind the scenes, he was tackling a much bigger problem: how to turn messy, real-world data into something AI could learn from. Today, that early idea powers a multi-hundred-million-dollar engine behind America's AI infrastructure—fueling everything from Fortune 500 workflows to real-time military planning. Just last week, Meta agreed to invest over $14 billion in Scale AI, valuing the company at $29 billion.Alexandr joined us on the Lightcone to share how Scale AI evolved from a scrappy YC startup into the backbone of some of the world's most advanced AI systems, how he thinks about competition with Chinese AI labs, and what it takes to build infrastructure that shapes the frontier.