590: Self-Host Before You're Toast
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I'm looking at this list of tools were going to cover today and there are some really, really good ones on here. But I can't help notice one thing is missing, and I feel like the show has a blind spot when IT comes to sinc thing. I mean, I guess it's my bad sink thing is the goat of file synchronous ation.

It's been around for years. I mean, i've literally used the armor for ages, but i've used IT daily for at least three years straight. And IT is just rock solid at this point. I was doing the .

backup PS tearing down some old the VP S I had left around cluttered from old projects. And what did I find running on one thing thing? Yeah ah you've been up for six years.

I think back .

in the day, I used IT to sink photos from my nexus phone.

Oh, wow, yeah, I like. So they only get out of the project has seven goals. But I think the first two just say all you need to know.

Number one, protecting the users data is paramo. We take every reasonable precaution to avoid corrupting the users data. iles.

Number two, I can. Protecting the user data is godless of our other goals. We must never allow user data to be subtitle to each dropping or modification by unauthorized parties. I like that. So shout out to same thing who just been quietly moved in my data around for three years without a hedge.

Well, hello, friends, and welcome back to your weekly linux talk show. My name please.

My name is well and my name is brand.

Well, hello, gentlemen. Today we're going to talk about a journ that started two years ago right here on the show, which is let us to basically rethink everything in our online lives. If you're Carries which changed, stay tuned because we're going to get into that.

And then just a sweet of tools that we've ended up using as a result. And then later, we will talk about a way to do self hosted boost in, of course, we have some great pigs and those boost that will get to, and so much more. So before we go any further, I want to take a moment and give a shut out to our awesome virtual log.

Hello, mom room. Nice to see all in there in the on air and in the quiet listening. Thank you very much for joining us, and of course, a big good morning to our friends.

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that's right. Tail scale does IT for year and IT doesn't really quick go say good morning and tried IT out for free on one hundred devices and three users. Not a limited time thing for plan. I'm on tail scale dark slash unplugged in a big thanked tail ale tail scale out com slash unplugged. Well, it's here IT is that time of year the unplug taxes are out for vote right now.

Do your duty please.

that twenty twenty four taxes, they need your votes. There's um more questions than ever. We collected all of your feedback. We've cleared out the hall of fame. So all destroys and desktop environments are up for a vote.

We have entirely new categories as suggested by you, and we have only a couple of days to get IT all in. So head on over to tuxes dot party, fill out the form and participate in the community of selection of the best top and excEllent projects, desktop environment services and more. For twenty twenty four.

Yeah, we only have twenty six responses so far and that's not going to cut IT. Wow, what kind of stats can we do with that?

Twenty six before we've made a public though it's kind of not bad.

Well, we do have a very downside.

Audience, that's pretty great. So toxic dot party is available for voting right now. Then join us live december twenty second for our last two episodes of the year.

And yes, one of them, in fact, we will be the taxi between the two life shows, will be taking some time to blast some sats to our live streamers to help them get their podcasting tutto o what set up. So go grab yourself fountain or another APP and get ready because we'll send you mash to help you get started with boosting. And if you're looking to do itself hoster with ali hub, we'll have more on that later.

We may even be opening a few channels to folk to help with their liquidity and stuff because it's a lot of fun to play around this from a self host at same point. And we're all about being solved with that stuff. So we'll have that all coming up on december twenty second. So go get your votes in now tuxes dog party.

Um also I just want you to say some folks in the matrix were asking us to confirm the date for episode six hundred. And so I can say that will be february second sunday, february second. So if folks are thinking about having to get together, what not?

And I think we'll have more on to get together stuff soon once we get through the taxes.

Oh yeah and uh a quick shout out um because we had a great website contribution from ta twenty four who added support to our website for showing when an episode has a customer IT. So right on the page, you can see who's getting what .

we're big fan of making all that is transparent as possible. So thank you so much. Also just a round of applause to the website team.

Yeah, it's just a couple of dedicated contributors, handful of folks really that makes the stupid of broadcasting website hum add the new episodes, make sure everything looks good and add new features. We love those guys. So thank you very much.

And then I don't know this is the right way to phrase this, but as we get to our last couple of episodes of the year, I have a question I would like you to answer via boost. And that is what is the biggest thing happening in linux right now. I saw a thread in art linux, and I was complaining about how all this rows are the same.

And there's nothing really that interesting between the different destroys one C R, A move package management. Then I saw somebody else going on about open source A I and what an incredible innovation that is. But IT doesn't really feel like a linux innovation.

So boosting. And tell me what, in your opinion, is the biggest meta story happening in linux in four IT will probably be relevant for our year and episode. So we'd love to hear your opinion on that.

So that's everything, the taxes that party, the taxes on december twenty second. We have the best website team in the world, and we're looking for the biggest meta story in linux or right now. So this episode Marks two years with graphing O S for all of us.

And I just thought we take a moment to talk about some of the things that actually made transition for me from IOS to graphing o as possible. Also reflect on just two years of using a non stock android O S. And if we miss any any of the stock features.

And then I can't help but note that this week the united states justice department recommended that android be split away from google along with chrome and other things. And as a graph in O S. User, I find myself totally on faced by that news. I've i've kind of already picked my lane and IT seems unaffected. So i'm curious and brand, i'll start with you if you miss anything about stock OS android, you perhaps when you're out socializing, you see folks with stock phones, maybe have features or some of the stock apps that I know you've given up on for the most part, like google maps, two years into this journey is for you, is there things that you're thinking, gosh, if I just had stock android on the thing, X, Y, Z, would be a little easier.

Hm, that's a great question because i've been doing this for so long. I think I don't realize what i'm missing out on. So i'm gonna with now. I'm pretty very happy.

I feel like a graphing, excuse me, a giraffe oasis, really just giving me a bunch more over the, and that's how I feel pretty much every single day. So I don't really feel like a missing out. What about you, mr. crush?

I ve been thinking about this, and I think there are some things where graph in feels like just a little too walked down or I would like a few more escape punches.

I think you've made some decisions in particular with you or fenian cy watch over there that maybe help with this um but like I was pretty used to stock Andrew as a lot of options around like location unlock or you know like various things to make IT, so you just don't have to constant unlock your phone. I miss that and they probably are some more options from you done. But just looking around the settings, I haven't found anything super easy which I could be missing. I haven't tried super hard, but I reflecting on that like that or I tried some things, but I was never super happy with the google assisted. But having a little Better default, be able to just yell at my phone to like pause the music or something that is nice.

that would be, I miss that. I have sold for that. I have playback controls on the watch. But I do feel what you're saying there a little bit because I think for me this would be a lot harder if I couldn't use the cash shop. And I know you have many of the cash APP because of like play protect aps, yeah which I guess they just weren't using when I installed the cash shop like a month before you did strange .

and me know my kids .

used the cash APP. So that's how I yeah right. So he would be for me would be really, really hard. And I know android users kind of laugh at this, but I am miss face ID face ID is really nice because you just pick up your phone to look at and don't locks.

I mean, so so Price theyve never bother.

And you I don't maybe maybe I I suppose.

but I mean, microsoft there a pilot thing, right?

So I thought this year would be the hardest year to beyond graphing. O S. Because all of the A I stuff that's coming out, like if there was any if these companies had managed to launch any killer, killer A I feature, I won't felt left out because that's gonna built into their proprietary apps and we know have access to that.

But there's not really anything that they've now. So I like all I have to have that. And you know things like image generation or text prompt summary.

I can do that with any L. M. I don't need one built into the O. S.

right? Yeah, we can. Pretty far with all the cds stuff. And graphic makes me appreciate those tools that let you just use IT.

whatever. I think one of things I also have really appreciated is that google's applications are at the same level as all other apps on the phone. Google's apps have no, but like the place store has to ask my permission to installing.

That is so refreshing. It's nice and that's how IT should be. Um but there's been for me, there was things along the way that just as I thought I was going to have to bail and go back to IOS graphing o sort of perfectly solved or the ecosystem around IT.

And i'll admit android auto on graphing OS was a big one for me. I really like having android auto and blue bubbles so I could communicate with family members on eye message was a game changer for me. And diva's five that lets me sink my card and cow dave and all that stuff to next cloud was massive.

And then you know things like replacing fined by are kind of solved by homesites ant because host system has a venture location stuck. And then like we said, tapped to pay in playback controls remotely. We're solved by my getting a garment four run or two sixty five smart watch which has been great um and that kind of filled out the ecosystem and a sort of at each point was like, oh, oh, i've just solved this just in time. And then, of course, all credit to brand for really bringing up obtaining on the show.

No, killing him.

Cooky guys months to jump on that train.

yeah. And because I thought after I was sufficient, you know, I was like because part of this whole catalyst was apples stupid behavior around their APP store, combined with google being super creepy and narky on a dad who is doing teleme medicine. And you combine those two things are like, I don't want any of this. An obtuse eum is truly the tool that lets me have a completely APP store account less APP management system. I just add the release page on github for the apps that I use and obtaining just watches for updates.

That is a great point. I mean, the resets of other reasons appreciated but just thinking in no count, no count um I paired to like what how hard and frustration is to use an apple device if you don't sign in to their account system radially different .

and after it's great but not everything's there and sometimes there's like a week long like a four, five, six, seven day leg before IT shows up on after IT. But you know where that shows up instantly to get up release page.

It's kind of similar in a way to like traditional repose and five packs, right? Like for some apps you want that direct connection, they update frequently want or they don't work in the for whatever .

here in the door and sometimes you're fine, let in your distro packages maintainer .

get to eventually and get IT in. Who cares?

You got so otani um really was sort of like one of those. This is my device. This is. And then I also still use after I too, of course, but I really obtaining him so great. So brand .

was right.

There was right for once.

I've also been searching for something that will just can documents and give me a PDF and there's like scan, but and all these other things that just do this other crap and they're all trying .

to inject A I watch an ad.

then you can save your media. So I came across O S S. Document scanner and is just a bare bones.

IT tries to detect the shape of the of the paper you're taking a picture of and then IT gives you some filter to options and then you can export IT as a PDF. It's O S S documents game and it's just one of those things. In fact, there's a lot of tools like this.

There's a simple mobile tools shop that makes things like simple calendar and other apps that are just really basic, no account required, open source apps to do a job. And these things like that, they don't exist on. I S.

Have a little tip for you on this one. So i've been using these simple tools, ohio, but I think they have been recently replaced by or forked by a different project who's taking on this role. So looking for positive y, which is basically the same tools, but just new .

owner or new project there. Simple mobile tls has any money, but it's been working great like simple calendar. What's fantastic about IT is I used device five to sing to next cloud, and then I use simple calendar to manage my calender and everything. I change their thing to next class.

Very nice.

wonderful. I know you boys also a big fan of the photo keyboard, F U T O keyboard yeah.

Although I don't know if it's just me, IT feels like lately I spent a lot really, I don't know, like good just be me, but just didn't its keyboards ness. And knowing the auto complete the text prediction.

I think IT does train itself on your text over time, like you after you need to be tapping the correct suggestions in order to train.

Yes, I just maybe I just pay more attention. I thought I was definitely a paying for first week switching to. I thought that I gotten pretty used to IT, but looking more closely, I did. I'm just like it's frequently changing words, yes, that I do not needed to change and I don't think the google keyboard does change.

I agree.

I run more of that. I am very happy .

with the voice for .

and it's on device. So the combination of the keyboard doing in that grade for me and the on device dictation being pretty solid doing that a one more I T.

T. I just have given up. You probably noticed in some of my messages. I just like, I don't know why, can't spell linux and I just .

up it's funny when he gets a very niche technical term perfectly and that messes up another one.

Yeah yeah. But still to have something that's not constantly reporting back to google and is pretty good yeah I like, I saw I am keeping the foot to keyboard F U T O um and then also streaming fin, which is a jellybean client that is really nice. And I really like IT. And at last but not least, to get away from youtube but still get access to youtube. Tubulure, which is um a fork of new pipe that implemented sponsor block and return to you and return youtube dislikes.

Yeah I do. I does mean we reflect designs in the cash of stuff. Now my other you know when I start, I was kind of worried like wind, you know so I have support come out from under me as I invested in this platform.

M, but that does not happen. But I large pretty much anything besides the tap to pay off, pretty much anything I need to do. We're the APP that I need this there. Yeah.

have to pay is nice.

I I am having a weird problem. I can use my .

flash light oh yeah.

really but besides, they had.

yeah, I do not have that one brand to have any flash like.

no, I just used mine like late last night with around the fire. So always good here.

Camera works, otherwise just fine.

That is strange. That is really strange.

I did restore this from a previous phone that I think was also happy that so I don't know if it's some like weird APP permission thing that i've mess up in somewhere between the system permissions and APP permission. I should probably try a stock.

You wouldn't play with that a stock.

So where all all our experiences are based on the pixel seven and the pixel seven, the non pro on swap a dark com is one hundred and eighty five dollars right now.

Oh wow. W.

so you we're perfectly happy with this phone and we're not planning up at any time soon. So you can get a perfectly capable graphics phone for one hundred and eighty five dollars and the pro is two hundred and twenty box on swapper. And I be sure you're getting unlocked, you know and you know something don't have the boot lor locked up, but that's amazing. The fact that, that the pixel seven goes for one hundred eighty five dollars bunker at that .

Price that feels like actually .

get another one. I know. Yeah yeah, my major complaint. I mean, he gets a little hot of all slow.

I think I will eventually update one day, probably when the pixel ten comes out. But I don't love the sound out of IT. I don't think that is the best speakers.

In fact, I would argue that the iphone thirteen and fourteen and fifteen have much, much, much superior speakers than the pick of seven. great. So I picked up the anchor sound, core motion, three hundred blue speaker. It's got pretty good sound, has got great volume. But why I am recommending this is because if you install them a little lap, which you don't have to, but if you install a little lap and controlled over blue tooth, you can turn off all on and off sounds on the speaker and allies.

And this, this is a Chris Fisher promise. And these things are going to just start. Turpin.

me, I use this every night. This is what I used to listen to an audio book at night. And IT took me a long time to find a blue to speaker that didn't make a shame when IT turns on, IT turns off, or doesn't have, like an obvious blue light, which is the opposite, what I want at night.

And so the sound core motion, three hundred by anchor, lets you use their APP to turn off that kind of stuff. And so it's a wonderful audio book. And IT also is just a great companion with the pixel and the battery last forever.

I know I probably use IT for almost an hour each night or half hour forty five minutes. I charged at once. And let's see when did I buy.

I've had a for probably couple of months. So you know anchor r makes I think anker bottle from people, they make good supply boat. This speaker on october eighteen th and i've charged twice and today is november twenty th, it's pretty good.

Consider IT. I literally use IT every single night. Ah so yeah I like a lot and and IT just solves yes, the sound problem yes.

I end up with headphones a lot time for the same thing. I do think it's fine, like if i'm just like landin bed, I want the phone next to me playing like a auto book to fall asleep to or something and it's totally very simple for that. Yeah, you know anything where you need quality if like speakers, even vocals for .

me after a while seeing a little harsh on the building. Pixel speakers.

yeah, if they are not EQ nicely, especially in the high and that .

can be rough yeah. And there are absolutely, you reek and stuff that does help. But still that is good start. And your apple is really good with sound. But this, I really like the sancho. So this this has started a trajectory over last two years that has really accelerated and been quite documented on the self host podcast about just really building a self sovereign ack and reducing the cloud footprint, kind of getting control over data, what people have, what you're using daily and maybe taking a little bit craft manship along the way. So not only are you sort of taking control back, but you really are kind of proud and enjoy what you ve built at the end of IT.

It's not just something you slapped together as a cheap alternative and um brand and he just talked about this on the self hosted podcast recently put together a nas and has been something he's been planning for a really long time. And IT is a big part of the step of taking stuff off of cloud services and bring IT onto his land. So bryant, let's start with your motivation here. Why put the effort into building an haas after all these years of not having one or not, maybe not having an official one?

Ah, I know you voice, help me do this. And that question never even really came up because I think we understand that. But I did get asked this question after we built IT by a friend of us. Like why why you bothering with all this work? Like it's so much work, but I have you even put yourself through then I think IT comes down to the reason I got into linux in the first place to be honestly like taking control of all of my information that I find really important that includes like the privacy topic, but also just like skill acquisition of things that I find interesting.

right? So just through building this nas now, i'm playing you with butter fast ways that i've haven't play with IT before, about to learn a bunch of new skills around hosting a bunch of different h applications on the same box. And all of that stuff is exactly the reason that I can keep myself away from linux is a just learning school accusation and just curiosity, really.

But the biggest one, because you can get some of that through you running your own V P S and those kind of things. But the biggest one, I think, is the privacy aspect. V, B S, you start to trust somebody. And I don't know how I feel about that one, but also um I think there's an investment portion here, both monetary from a skills point of view.

OK monitor makes sense, right? Because you're not you don't have to pay for a service that you're rent in per months. You're investing in getting fixed cost that you keep over time. okay.

But what's the other part? Well, I think the other part is one with skills. You know, if I am continuously pushing the what this box can do based on all the tools that we keep surfacing on these shows here um then I feel like that's a huge investment in my own sill sets.

We should be clear maybe though everyone, because you touched on this in the posted episode, that you don't necessary mean like a lot of folks, I think do some of this home lab stuff for workers. You know, i'm going to build this out and then I can talk about IT on my resume and talk about the project in the interview and all that, which is great. But that's not, you want these skills just to serve you in your personal life, right? H.

that's a yeah that's a good question. I think that is true. I think the main motivator is my inherent distrust of larger corporations and what they are doing with our information.

I think there there's more than a couple examples of them just doing whatever they want with our information. I know we can encrypt things these days, but why not take IT further so that that was my main motivation. I know IT comes with a bunch of pain points like for instance, the power went out here yesterday all day because of all the snow.

And so there goes my infrastructure ah turns out my nas down because my U P. S is also broken. So you take on all of these like yeah when things go down, it's nobody else. Sea fought the mind.

It's like a different type of risk. You have the the counterparty risk of cloud provider or you have the risk of just you know natural infrastructure issues in a home.

It's so just not a data center. Hord soup on what?

Yeah but at the same time in Crystal, i'll understand this a one of the main motivations for me in the last couple of years for self hosting. What I can is just unreliable internet. I mean, I live in middle.

no. And that has got him far Better now that I have starlink. But it's still I don't know. I guess i've been trained to want to keep everything as little possible.

Yeah it's a huge motivation for me too. Yeah and even then because when your internet connection is up, then there's just less traffic on IT. So it's whatever you want to use IT fords unless you're west and you got a gig bit speaking to you with I know you've been contemplating setting up a home assistant pretty soon. And i'm just gna curious why now and is if you read some kind of threshold is you're about to start investing in smart stuff like why is twenty twenty four, maybe early twenty twenty five the former system for west pain?

Yeah, it's kind of a confluences of factors. I've had home assistance before. Think we looked to that years and years and years ago on the show, we did a round up of a the options at that time.

And I I had to over the last than a few years of that, but I happen to move a lot in the last out of a decade of my life. So that may be very concious of what infrastructure and stuff fine investing because I just I got ta drag IT with me in each places different. I've also lived in a lot of like studio or laugh like sort of similar situations where it's generally one or two big rooms and not a lot of separate spaces that need individual attention. So IT hasn't been hard to like change the text ata in the one room .

and I in I turned on a couple of lights yeah.

but I haven't actually moved in the last couple years and i'm not I mean, I will move again for sure, but i'm not planning an immediate move. And I did buy at least some more stuff. And I think the project, you know, i've watched your installation over the years and i've seen IT move really fast and change a lot of things, and i've seen you have to migrate off old versions of plugins and radio dashboards.

So i've kind of been balancing the the amount of things that I needed. I'm very, very much like automation, which is the amount stuff I had to have as moving parts to have a functional Operation. And I think i'm crossing the point now with enough stability. That IT makes sense to invest.

I feel like we would have a similar conversation if you came to me, said, Chris, they are ready to become a dad. I am like, west, your life is going to change so much for the Better you're not onna believe how much Better your life is going to be once you have a home assistant. It's so great with .

life changing. Life changing.

great. Because IT starts small. H that's nice. Like for me, the nice thing was, as you know, I had life fix.

I had hues. I had tp link. I had like a couple of different vendors.

You, we need you to three or four apps. That is a pain in the neck. And homes system just brought IT all together. And that was for me, that was all, this is really nice.

Now IT literally runs my home and IT is so nice because IT adjust with my with my home and for the time of year. And I just solves for things that I don't even have to think about anymore. And it's really, really, really great.

And then, of course, I have all this remote access. Even when i'm traveling, I can check on things, and I really love that. So home assistant is one of those.

IT starts as a baby. And it's like, oh yeah, life is a little different now. And then by the time is, in his teenage years, IT is completely, fundamentally changed your life. And i'm really much in this refinement stage now where i'm just kind of like adding like let's see if I can do this thing and it's it's so rewarding, really fun, even if only have a few smart lights and a couple of smart plugs.

I also think you i've just never been a huge fan of running appliance things. So I was always a little sketch out by that. And so now that you can get by with some of the next stuff, yeah, i'm more interested as well, totally.

So for me, I I was like, well, i'd like to have this self hosted, I like to this self hosted, and i'd like to have this self host. And IT IT really became .

a journey which I will .

put links where I go on a lot of details in individual self host episodes and in no particular order but things. An example of this is, I think this is all part of a broader mentality of just being more capable in general and not reliant on third parties.

And along with this, for last few years, i've been very slowly just learning the basics of car maintenance and work like that so I could save money, develop the skills that IT seems like maybe there's a diminishing skills set in the marketplace. So if I could increase my skill set while the marketplaces decreasing its overall skill set, by the time the marketplaces sort of a crap, crap show, maybe I know what i'm doing. And so I have deployed.

I talked about this, and self hosted one twenty seven lue bloggers. And IT is a self maintenance and cost analysis tool that I run for my several vehicles and my ivy to just keep track of maintenance and repairs and overall cost of these vehicles. And then you can generate reports of ever where to go sell one of them.

I could I could produce a report of all of the maintenance at the miles, the individual costs in all of that really nice little simple APP. It's called loop blogger lue blogger dot com. And it's isn't this category that I have of something I was considering a cloud service for.

And I instead, when the direction of self hosting mei is also in this category, I talked about this and self hosted one thirty five meal. I E 到 I O IT is it's a self hosted recipe management。 They just recently introduced ed multiple support, and they have a very, very good import system.

So you can just give IT a URL of a recipe and it'll pass IT. You'll break everything on individual steps and individual ingredients and tags. Import imaging therion y multi user, of course, and against very simple to set up.

It's great. This time a year, we're about to do thankful ving. Next week, we make these things once a year.

It's nice people to look that stuff. We could have used the cloud service. I could have used an APP that's on one of our phones, but merely gives you a progressive web APP. I just created a bookmark on my wife's launcher.

I think this is one that add into my house dance for sure.

You will love IT, you can love IT, and it's just so clean. And this is an example. All he has won to a cloud service for that. And then i've talked about youtube and I don't I don't like constantly providing a lot of data to youtube. I think the youtube experience is on a downward decline.

If so, is I still use the APP sometimes? Yeah, now I crashes and .

loses my history. Oh, the rain times IT doesn't great like IT IT IT seems to always have my history ics up for the one time I want to go look at my history, find the video right drives me not. The other problem is because youtube is such a hostile platform of creators, there are channels that give me guides like on something this like I I had this channel who was all about working on my particular model of rv.

And the videos were from twenty fifteen, and the guys account, they got shut down. He closed his account, whatever. All of the videos disappeared. Nobody else is because it's a 4 model。 Nobody else is making those videos anymore.

It's a poor archive of record, if that's what we're trying to treat as .

that's where we have talked about IT once before on the show. Pinch flat comes in, pinch flat. So great. It's a youtube media manager that will save a youtube channel and their videos to your local system, and it'll grab older meddle a.

So I grab you to quate like an N O file or whatever you need with the description ilog PH the thumbnail. And then you can bring that into jellyfish and jelly fin will read that nfo file as a media data source. And in jelliffe, they look like every other media file, like a movie or A T V show with thn nails and descriptions and all of the like, meditate information.

And you can archive stuff forever that way. So any video that's like this is how to repair this thing that I own, or this is how I build this thing that I have to build once a year. I put that channel in the pinch flat.

And every time that youtube post a video, IT automatically saves IT to my system. And you can also set parameters around length of retention. So maybe you want to put a youtube winner who post often.

Maybe your kids love mr. beast. And so you want to let them watch mr. Beast, but you don't want to give them all of youtube.

Well, you you could tell, pinch flat download every mister beast video, but delete them after thirty days, or delete them after ninety days, or whatever you want. It's really, really awesome. When I talk about more detail about how I used IT itself hosted one, three, four for that. It's good up. Yeah.

this one is so good that i'm working on making .

a flag for IT. There's so many more um that have like been a great alternative to cloud services.

I think it's nice from the sense to that. I mean, you know some of these class officers are really nice and but there are so many talented folks in the open source community. And a lot of these apps are kind of just like, you need a relatively simple database, you need A U I mabe, you need an APP or a progressive web APP or something.

And, you know, I just needs to expose that. And there is a lot of people who can do that. And when we can highly them and can, you know, build community around them and propped them up and help them enable them to solve that problem, were building stuff .

that we can all use. I will say there's one more i'm going to wait .

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Well, I got an email this week, an email I have to admit I knew was coming, but an email I was not looking forward in on the less.

No, no, this is it's a, it's a time of transition. Well, it's a time of transition.

Here's the email from L B, or reaching out to inform you that the L B shared wallet service will be discontinued on january fourth, twenty twenty five to continue enjoy in permissionless ending inexpensive payments. It's time to transition to your own L B hub. They've also announce some new limits that are in fact until they shut down the service.

But yeah, that's the big news. Uh, the lightning wallet and a lot more that i've been relying on to receive you as generous boost is going away. And you know it's not just me using this place use and a lot of folks use IT to send the boost on the listener side.

myself included. And that's a big part of IT, right? So in the lightning world, there's lots of ways to actually participate and found in implement their own implementation. A couple of others like true fans does as well.

And in many like pod verse in podcast attic in podcast grew and some of the other podcasting to do apps they've been using in albee backing to manage and alb is kind of like a lightning as a service, and they are transition away from this lightning as a service to a pretty comprehensive self hostile solution that they are calling alby hub. And they're making this change transition in an early january. I think they put a date in here somewhere.

It's like the first week of january h for thank you. And so what they have now, inro's ced is something called alby hub. And alby hub is a front end that is in front of a lightning demand and allows you to participate in a bunch of different lighting apps, including podcasting, to to do things like starker news and the auster network.

IT can also be your own lightning node. IT doesn't need a third party one. O so that's actually, I think the default configuration, there's a called the lightning britain and rust, I believe, which really yeah they're using. It's mostly go up on the back end, but I think they might be using the C A I not yeah to impact their own. No, I think that's what you get out of the gate. But yeah does support A L N D, which is very popular back and note as well as phoenix and a few other few others you can find, which makes IT even easier because you don't have to deal with actually running the note. I will be can be A A one stop shop or IT can be a bridge from your existing lighting infrastructure to the alby world.

Yeah, it's nice because I still works with the existing alby extension. So IT has web support for web lightning apps. And then they've also released the alb go mobile APP, which will connect you know and let you do mobile payments and in a really simple set up.

So there's a lot of ways west to do alby hub. And I think the big barrier though is you do need a system that is online to run IT to consult for that. We've introduced ed alby hub cloud, which is like ten thousand sets of month to run L B club uh cloud.

Yeah think it's a steep discount for the first three months and then maybe like twenty something, yes.

a month after like the first few months if you .

were doing I think it's a kind of thing where if you're just doing IT for casual boosters, maybe IT doesn't. Maybe it's a lot for your use case. If you're using IT where you're sending A A fair amount stuff, it's it's a very reasonable, right.

right? So with this context, reason why we will talk about this is because this sort of under the umbrella of self sovereign setups and a lot of people that there have been using albee to support the show directly, and you've been looking at ways of hosting alby in various different means. And you've even looked at like a or did you create the flaker? You find an L, B hub flake. Ah.

yeah no I have A A couple people have made a tempts a package in IT for nicks and i'm one of them so I have a like that will build um boat the back and server version and there's a whales front which is like a non electron thing for go that provides a similar use case. The Price will dep you. I can even just run out as the test up up if you want.

Yeah i've not gotten around yet to making a maginness for IT, ideally like one that plays nicely with the whole next big coin project because then you just you enable IT and be done. And that project offers an easy that can figure L N D server as well. But if you want to try that out, if you want, try like the the desktop cin version. Now you can definitely use the like.

So I want to talk about a high level about what's happening here because it's actually pretty neat. A company started with an entirely hosted solution where they managed everything when they realized, you know, if this at scope and value, we could end up with a lot of money on our servers. We don't want that.

And they took a product that was a fully hosted solution, and they have turned IT into a self hosted solution. And they've kept the browser extension and the API they are provide all of that connected when you make the transition. And they've made IT all free software.

you to a patchy two license.

And this thing can run with your existing back in lightning. IT can be the lightning server if you have umble or start nine is one click to installed. IT is also just a docker compose away and you have a completely self hosted system. IT is work so awesome.

And again, on december twenty second, we will be answering questions if you want to try to play around with alby hub, but you need to get some liquidity, join us for our live stream for that because it's a really cool piece of software. And they're making this this journey pivoting from a full cloud service to a full self hosted. And they're trying to they're trying to make IT possible for people to switch.

It's really like nothing have ever seen before. And the team is really making some great soft. Where are trying to do IT? And then while we're on self hosted ways that you could boost and support the show and you don't want to switch podcast apps, the breeze APP, we've mentioned in a couple of times, but the breeze APP is a lightly note in your pocket.

IT runs on the APP, and you can pull in our service fees, and you can boost our shows from breeze without having to switch away from like whatever your favourite test step is. And this thing is a Stellar example of taking something that used to require massive server infrastructure, twenty four, seven connectivity. And they have this still the down into something that runs inside the mobile APP.

And it's an entire node in your pocket and its open source, and it's one hundred percent bitcoin. It's really neat. That's the breeze APP. And that can you can just use that to casually boost in without having a switch podcast steps .

yeah I think things like .

all use the service, that hostile set. It's all it's all on your node and there's ways of backing .

IT up at worst. No, I mean, I so I think one of the difficult parts of the deck can be the liquidity aspect, both in terms of managing IT, but also just depending on where you're connecting, there's just a certain amount as you've .

got a dedicate to be able to when .

you open lightning channels. And so if you are just a casual booster, I do think that's where one of these options is really interesting. Breezes humanity phoenix is another one where they played the role of liquidity provider. There's gonna take a fee to pay for that, but that means they handle IT and you can be connected to the network in a pretty reasonable robust way at least especially if you're doing mostly like outgoing transactions and not trying to constantly receive for a lot .

less fast and you're holding the keys.

you're right and and still none stored.

And I think now is the time to learn this stuff while while you can. It's time to start figuring this stuff out because it's only growing and getting bigger and getting more and more use and getting more more future rich.

Yeah, but IT is kind of a pain to get over the learning curve and get you know figure out the right set of things that you need to like to get on board. IT after that is is really nice. And like I think we've all had these experiences like something we really paying for something with lightning and it's so much faster and smoother than a lot of traditional method.

And the fact that you can have key based identities that you can connect these apps and then you can set budgets for all these different varies apps that you can connect to, and all of that is really nice. And I I feel like linux users have a bit of blind spot here because it's not linux, but IT is free software and IT is being developed at a feverish pace.

It's that kind of special phase where a lot of extremely talented developers are all very much focused on this problem, and they're putting one hundred percent of their effort and energy into this. And you're going from zero to one hundred in a quarter. And then within four quarters, this things fully feature rich, right? Alby hub started as a project like a year ago and now it's like a comprehensive piece of software that is a genuine contribution to the free software landscape.

And it's only a year old, if not even that they're movements so fast and they're just one of many developers like the breeze folks yeah they're do an unbelievable stuffer like back and services SDK for developers is on fire right now. And so IT is a great time to start looking into. And we'll have links to get you started in the shoots because I wondered .

if we wanted to talk about how we are using IT because I think we are actually doing something kind of novel and interesting here.

One of the great things that alb hubs supports is the alb gym mode. And alb gym lets you set up sub wallets and accounts. So once you get your node online, you could make an account for your kid, for your spouse, for your friend, for a business partner.

And they don't have to manage any of the node stuff. They have their own private stash. I can't access any of IT, but they get to take advantage of the liquidity of my note of the channels that i've established.

And when we say liquidity, what we mean is there's channels open between these peer to peer lightning notes and there are sets that are dedicated to those channels to guarantee. Funds can transfer. And so that's when we say liquidity, that's what we're talking about.

And it's one of the things that people find slightly tRicky with lightning nodes depending on your set up. And so with the alb gym mode, brand gets all the advantages of the lighting. The same thing we did for pj to get him up here for the meshta tic episode as I set him up an alb gym subber count on my node.

And then he's taking advantage of my liquidity, my online node. This online all the time. He compares his own active to, because his own identity can connect his own applications with his own crip graphic ID is really great.

I like that. As I think you know, as as linux folk, we're used to often play IT rules. And I think in the self hosting space, right, many times, we're off in the services. We stand up for ourselves to friends and family. And this can be another way to do that.

You could also see maybe a project. I am a free soft for project, and we want to get supported with boost apps. So the project creates an alb hub cloud account and the project just runs along albee b clouds and no one particular computer has to run IT.

And the way the alb hub cloud works is IT is encrypted to your security key. So it's an encrypted vm that you have to provide the key tude to unlock and start. Ali cannot start and stop IT.

I think they could probably stop IT, but they cannot start and access IT without your mastercard. You provide the mastery y in the vm starts on ali hob cloud. So you could have say, neo him or whatever that sets up this account.

And then everybody on the project that is a serious contributor as a primary contributor gets an lb gym subacid t and they all get split. And then when you up neo them or when you boost nao them, everybody in the project gets supported, including you could have a split in there for the main project itself totally. And IT would just be one no die mage and me, it's really powerful and it's all, you know stuff that nerds you're going to love to play around with.

I've had a lot of fun and it's been super impressive to watch you go. And I I hope one day we will see a free soft of a project. Try that kind of thing .

on the opposite end of the spectrum. This is a quick final note here. I do want to point out, um L I help is great.

People should check IT out. If you do, are you run lining infrastructure? You can connect me out the extension to your node without hub supports. L and d, there's core lighting support if you have the right plugins enabled or if your wallet supports noster wallet connect analogy, take a vange of sites that support the l by extension, today, regardless of if you, anna, run extra.

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OS seem to have pulled things in. Thank you very much. Thanks to everyone who sent in boost this week as well. Chris, you want to take IT .

off with our bowlers.

and now IT is time for the well.

look at this, Brantly. Don't we have a lovely batch of boost? And our first boler boost comes from third ferguson with one hundred .

thousand sets turn fergus M.

Hello, mister focus and rights that hey, gents, have you seen turbo scribed at A I i'd love to see more podcast with transcripts.

Grapes are great. I don't think I have seen t .

we agree with you on the transcripts. So I think I heard I think I heard the pod father talking about turbo scribe somebody was talking about. I guess it's it's like the name says says it's a very, very fast way to transcribe you podcast. I guess like an our long podcast, you're get in seconds.

I do like seconds .

and I think they might have an A P. I just look at their webs. You know that might be something were looking at yeah.

that's always the trick with these things. I've seen a lot of nice looking services with fancy u eyes. And then like there's nothing for the automation you I don't I want to be through my I would .

love to know what people out there would use the transcripts for if you want to boost in and tell us because it's something we're thinking .

about square triangle boost in with forty one thousand, six hundred and sixteen .

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nice. I started .

using slack ware linux in nineteen ninety seven and dull book into windows to download software back browse internet because A C ninety seven soft load.

Oh, man, that was a pain.

Currently, i'm having a bit of identity crisis while using windows ten and eleven for the last five years due to a work requirement. Uh, this is a square triangular number boost, not a postcode boost. Oh, neat OK.

Now is this mode pass at eight zero zero eight five. I good to know the identity crisis while using windows can be understandable because there's things about windows that you know kind of ice um but he ultimately always end up missing linux quite a bit. But what I would do in your situation is just embrace windows at work and then you go home.

It's like linux. It's like a vacation from work. You know, I know a lot of people i've heard from in the audience like I got a back at home because I just want to do IT. I do IT during the day I say flip, that's gript linux box hoo.

here's little quiz for you. Okay, do you know the square trying giler numbers? I am at the math. Well, yeah, it's a, it's a number which is what they try, angular and a square. No.

A H yeah, as a name lies, as is good to know. Thank you. Appreciate the boost. Their squared .

triangle a counts objects arrange. Now you got like things, you put them in a triangle shape. How many you're gonna get? I guess that's a triangle number of IT fits into that, and a squared number is an integer that is the square of an inner. Apparently you can get both those things at once. And four, one, six, one, six is one of them.

I feel like post codes are easier. We've boost here from gee bee, two thousand, six hundred and seven four sets .

across two boosts spice.

Regarding a meet up in the atlantic, which part of atlantic going from one side to the other takes awhile? If not the west side or near IT, i'd consider also setting up one if there's interest. So that might be two at lana meet tubs.

So jee beans from the west side is I have time to take from, okay, thank you. We're that we're going to have to probably a like after our predictions episode s start getting really serious. So I think that's the time.

Thank you. Everybody keeps in the when time comes in, put list together. Now.

gene sent a second boost. Here is dropping a quick note to confirm streaming seats and boosting to the bootleg feed works via podcast guru.

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B, tomato comes, we missed a live boost, which is now in the report but didn't quite make IT o go uses 752b in ad ducks， twenty two thousand, two hundred and twenty two cents to say quite like things looking up. Duck.

thank you. appreciated. That's nice lot. I love me a love boost. Now tomato comes in with a charge or boost that's five thousand sets. You said if Chris interested in a risk five server, check out the banana pie f three.

It's a decent little machine with em MC and and am not too slot for storage expansion, a nice metal enclosure and fatal support that you know what i've heard of the banana py three, I just didn't think of IT, I don't know. I realized I was respite. Well, that is awesome.

The banana pie three, if you would like yourself a risky homes server. I right, because I could. That be a whole thing.

Me win IT. It's my risky server. You know, it's a big risk. You know, I could even that would be the host name, big risk.

right? So you're getting one. Is that everything?

That's what I heard. I mean, now I am I think I think that's probably what's happening.

Thank you. tomato. The immunologist losing with all that, i'm an add open to the user and I would rather reinstall tumble's than trying to fix any zipper conflict tub with transactional updates mostly solved all those problems from me. I think listening to brand fixing zipper, which just got me emotional stress there.

is that that's that's .

a lizard given us an endorsement for our approach at least kind .

disorder yeah I I is a complete .

endorse stall for double we didn't install .

um I agree too. I feel like part of why I just like bypass package issues and rapid issues is just not this house I have done this enough. Get out here with that. You know same the .

whole reason that I wanted to get off of that is because of the emotional stress that IT was causing to trying to fix IT per. So, yeah.

great boost. Thank you very much. Mister immuno gist precision.

well, what I boost did IT with a baseball boost.

So the combination is one, two, three, four, five.

My longest running system was an e Smith file share server I created in the light nineties for my parents business, right for about ten years, never being touched till be sold. That business.

I think guy might be stumped. Even Smith file server.

Okay, cuz I S M E server, a formerly ism ths server in gateway as a linux strip tion based on red out in .

a Price linux may be it's changed over the in the there initial .

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twenty five years ago yeah one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine latest released december .

fourteenth twenty twenty .

two hh fresh current type mono with a casali dorg who know that's literally the first time I think anybody, everybody, thank you. See, that's fun. Eith file share server reminds me of the netware servers I started back in the day on. Those are quite the trip.

I mean, this kind of exactly the thing, right? Like even twenty five years ago, like you could stand up linux server and that .

does one simple job, can keep IT. You don't crash IT with like some sort of weird cytha seeker comes in with five thousand six hundred seventy eight sets. They are doing a lot with male these days, long time, i'm a listener, a first time, a booster, right on.

Thank you.

welcome. I know I can be a bit of a journey sometimes looks like you're using pod vers too.

So relevant episode.

relevant episode for you. Thank you very much. Life figure reporting in on my first linux event, oh great ohio linux fest.

I despite only making a few talks, I really enjoy the community aspect and i'm looking forward to attending similar events in the future. Thanks for the great shows i've been ohio in service to once and I still think about IT. I really enjoyed IT out there with love to make IT back.

Yeah, I want to go. Yeah.

the linux fest season is fast approaching, right? We've got linux fest coming up, north west scales coming up, planet nicks, probably texas linux fest.

I would imagine faust m is on a lipstick day.

We may have more on that later yet. Foster, the season is fastly approaches to take your vitamins. Boys, we've got to be in our game shape. I think it's going to be.

i'm gonna climb in to .

one of those big bubbles, this new suits too.

I think, will look short. yeah. So first think you thank you very much for boosting. Thank you for listening and appreciate. Take that effort.

Hi brad. Sarcasm comes in with five thousand. You substance.

Would you mind confirming the exact date of six hundred? I want to start planning the central a live listening body. Yeah, that would be february second .

as long as we don't miss episode, which have you ever I don't know. I know we've ever missed an episode, you know, because even if we were sick, when when we put together something like even when I was in the hospital, you guys still did in up ah yeah right .

so so probably most likely you know jack counter which we miss an epsom that be .

interest yeah this is really throw .

people yeah right when you do remember, just like a month ago when our hosting platform and issue and we came out like late in the day instead of early in the and we heard from other people, which we love, it's it's a good feeling. It's not a bad thing mr. Copelands, back with a jar jar.

Woods five and that you, I think I did not stream sets or something was wrong with fountain. So I wish I had a butter festin APP shot so I could roll back so gonna boost to catch up. And I have a question.

They need real time kernel options does help when we use A A V M versus something on the server, also shared, reused by the vm. Not what he means by that, but he has the same question, would have make a difference to cfs on a server. Should I avoid vm s on z fs or on butter s is like general question and he has a last is thanks for the show.

The general principle is, you know, a lot of these things, the cost for the harvard, you get the more options you have, right? Z, F, S, M, but f of having access to the Rogers, let's work the full capacity of their features in magic. But often times, depending on what you're doing, you may want the subset of features that work sort of hello, regardless， as far as using A V M for button F S and Z F S um copy on right can really hurt performance.

So you may want to disable copy and F S has ever which are a great option for things like virtual machine. I didn't know about the real time stuff. I suppose on the, you know maybe you wanted on both places for a real time.

You know I guess on the host, you d do want to making sure you can you know attend to all the vms. It's running, but there's a lot of pass through stuff going on. So probably situation where.

You might just end up having to measure IT. And yeah, that's trum. Of course, there's lot of times you just don't have control over whatever the vm host is. And so you can try .

because I know you guys d like to have you try and report back, tell you the truth, telling the costar and truth. That's what i'd like to know. But thank you very much for the boost.

Appreciate IT the gold in dragon boost in five .

thousand sets drag putting .

forth an idea for the book, he actually wrote booties, which I can like. Well.

that's the definite boost wag item ever .

gets the largest boost total for the year gets to be that ye's maScotte. It's not fair for me to have all the mascot fun. Hope you cat you guys alive soon and can't wait for episode .

six hundred okay, so I support this, but I think we're gonna need a list from the dragon about what the he is determined the I got to do these and roles are .

yeah it's a plays on A A one of our lehnert en in the matrix room that is true, an important role. Um I wonder if there wouldn't be another role like uh, chief executive producer or something like but more fun boost master also are probably have more details. I need to think up with hybrid sarcasm, but I think we're going to have a couple of other Prices for top winners as well. The golden .

drain continues. If anybody has interest in a rich itar care, that's kansas, right, which I have kansas area meet up for episode six hundred get in touch as I have zero experience in that kind .

of but it's but there we're definitely going have to go back and scrape all these .

will make a list and then give some resources .

together for people see that's just big man got energy all over IT I love IT superior storm superposition IT comes in superiors comes that .

wet just as superposition .

pretty funny next collar comes in with eight thousand and eight sets. I work on, I work for a wholesale distribute IT. And our p software is the backbone of the Operations.

At all of the conferences I go to. There is rarely anything open source available. And curious if any unplug users have experiences with open erp software hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, just go to license and support. I would love to see some of that go to us. That is a great question.

You know, I don't myself, but that strikes me as maybe the kind of question that I I bet everybody I have a .

tiny bit of inside here. Not time yeah but there used to be something called open source erp, which is exactly what you're looking for that recently change to be called audio. And we do use audio at next cloud. I don't use IT personally, but um it's something you might look into.

Very nice chat .

mike booth with a double rose of ducks appreciate the thought of answer about nick and I will try. And again, when I have some time, i'm currently running a bunch server and i'm looking at trying out next cloud on tail scale. How would you run IT? What about snap versus the all in one image? Hm, I mean, I think this is a blank question.

Yeah, i'll let brand answer the snap versus all in one image. I'll answer the tail scale part uh, great. So um my next cloud is only available on my tail skill and I love IT and what i've done not sure I recommended but what i've done is i've registered a public DNS address that points at the tale scale address for my next clod server.

So if i'm on a machine that is connected to my toilet, which is all of them, I can just go to blab a blood dot com and IT pulls up my next cloud server over my tail net. It's so wonderful. And there are ways to solve this using internal D N S.

Only on your town that, like me, you could, you could spin up A A pi hole on tail net and make IT a DNF server of your tail net, and then resolve all of the stuff. That way, if you want, you could use magic D N, S, building a tail scale you want to. I like having a public DNA for a lot of these things, and I just pointed, that's my next cloud is can figure to use as its domain. And I have IT set up in front of engines. S that proxy, that and that just works fantastic.

worth saying. You can depend on, I will fancy when to get. You can do both. Do you can have internal D, N, S, and still have your.

the public ones I do. And IT does work gently. What do you think though, about the all in one image versus the snap?

Yeah, I think that becomes a personal preference. I think I will give a little bit of information there, and I can speak a little bit to what I have experiences with personally. So for the all in one that is officially the install method that next cloud calls official.

So there's something to that. And in includes a whole bunch of nicely backup PS using bard backup and a whole bunch of like preconditions, red um ads and things that just work out of the box because it's you know fully upstream. Um that said, there are butch projects that are doing similar like bungling, but with their own particular opinion about how this should happen.

Next pie project is is one that that strikes me there. So you might look into that project is well, just to see how they can figure everything. Maybe it's more you doing IT in a way that you appreciate more.

So I would compare them side by side. Um that said, um you asked specifically about snaps verses the all in one and the snap project around next cloud has been doing a pretty great job. It's the one I started with many years ago and i'm still running.

And I can definitely say that it's been great between upgrades. I've never had downtime because of the snap upgrade itself. So that's always good to see. The team there is vetting those updates so they do leg behind.

But there maybe that's what you want .

if you know tell yeah especially .

when you get really IDE with the all in one, you're going to be doing the docker stuff, right? But I see on the snapp er's ways to run the occ command and whatever other things you need to do internally, if you have to do .

yeah the snapp uh, documentation for the next last snapp project is pretty good. So if you need to run O C C commands, I know I certainly did when I was setting things up. It's all documented actually pretty well and there is a fairly large community around IT.

So you will not run into something that someone else hasn't already run into. That said, again, I haven't really had to trouble shoot IT. That's why I ve been on .

IT for so many years. That's what works.

That said, IT is in my experience, a little slow if you're using the web a for the snap project specifically. I know we've been toying with running next light on nicks and that's been we snapp er see what I did there. But so that's a consideration as well. I think just run a couple of these try them out before you make a decision and see what you like and please also report back. We'd love to hear what you choose a great.

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of like you don't have to have, you are trying to be some major infrastructure routing them like you don't need a tonal hardware.

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Man, I do. You know, i'm old school. Yeah, you are.

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So we've a boost here from the mad lunate six thousand three hundred and eighty two, just another long time less year since to two thousand nine in first time booster.

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r. Nick, eighty six comes in with, guess what, boys, it's a roof, adorable ducks. Friends, I have a dilema.

I'm going to be building a new server for my home, but I can't decide what OS I want to put on there. The several need to be able to run vms. I do IT consulting, and I need to be able to archive of the vm when i'm done.

I want to run home assistant and some flavor of some local lama AI instance. Want to put alby hub on there, back ups for my household mac, next cloud and all of the trim's, maybe even a big coin node and still have enough overhead to tinker. So I can't decide, is this a true as scale? Maybe argent docker for oran pod man q you want to a bunt to should I go proxy x there?

I say, even nick, I just can't decide. I don't want to do a lot of work maintaining either, but I am willing to do IT if that's what IT comes to. The system will be an epic rome based mostly, uh, with about fifty terabytes of discord plus about eight terra ites of M V.

me. Maybe a great chance to draw the cash of s to any thoughts. cheers.

I think we really going to need a duplicate system at the .

studio on a properly test for yeah, yeah, that's IT.

You know it's it's tough to advise here not knowing a little bit more. Two possible projects.

One is, you know, if you don't want a lot of what do you are to owner you comfortable with and do something that safely in your real house, you can focus on just the things that you're trying to execute on? Or are there any of these that you've been one to learn things that you know, you hear us talk about the other people or like it's been on your list that you should having got time to. And if so, and you have time, jump down.

The one thing that jump in out of me on this list is home assistant. Because with home assistant, as i've explained before, you can do just home assistance core, which is the is the essential court homer system application that you can run a docker container, or you can want to run the whole homesites O S. And they expect to control the entire machine.

So you either run IT on physical hardware or in a dedicated vm. So and you also said you want to build a run vm and you want archie vm. So IT sounds like virtualization is gonna be a core use case of this system.

So I don't think anybody would get fired for recommending that you put prox Marks on the base of this system and then you could experiment with a bone to, you could experiment with next things like that. If I were building for myself, I think you know the answer I would do next at the metal, and then I would use next to define the vm ms. And that would be an extremely reproducible, reliable, solid way to run a system.

But that does mean you have to learn the next stuff. The advantage there is, then you can just back up that next configure. You could be produce a pretty easily.

You can also have vm that are described in your nixon fig. And to create a new V M, I would just be a matter of copying that twain, a few of the details rebuilding. And you'd have an entirely new V M that you could get going. So there are some aspects of that are pretty nice. But if you're doing this is part of an IT consulting business, I I kind of I have a hard time thinking reason why you shouldn't put prox mark on the bare metal and then take advantage of vms inside proxy xx and containers and then you also have snapshots and back up some things like that.

Another option could be something like going to bn two days or whatever. O S. And then um i'll just try to make your life by adding one or two, which is less d which can be an excEllent platform. Um you know it's not quite the whole like appliance level. The pack maxes somewhere in the middle but if you want somewhere in middle can be a nice on one or the thing that you don't run containers and Evans for you and I can do clusters and make stuff.

And as far as h your drive set up, I would definitely think that some of your more performance oriented vms could go on the eva ese, a dependent on when you build this. I might look at the cash. Fs, if you have proper backup PS, right? Because really at the end of the day, any file system is not one hundred percent. And even if you were to put IT extended four on there or Z, F, S, i'd still say you Better have backup because .

he does have some functionality for you like using the N B, M S cash. I mean, can do that a lot of but specifically and .

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And of course, the great thing is that it's more than just amazon. I know that supports walmer. I think IT supports a bunch of popular online stores. I haven't used IT for all of them, but I know amazon, a walmart in there. And like I said, let me take a look. I will link to the docker compose in the soonest thirty seven lines looks like IT does IT spins up a little database, a little equal light database, no big deal. And IT also supports that notify, you know.

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