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Bill Simmons: The Yacht Rock Killer

2025/1/9
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Rob Lowe: 我热爱80年代的电影,特别是《圣埃尔摩的火》。我认为这部电影之所以成功,是因为每个角色都同样引人入胜,并且代表了人们生活中可能遇到的一种人。我希望能够拍摄续集,延续这些角色的故事。我还痴迷于游艇摇滚乐,我认为它与《圣埃尔摩的火》有相似之处,都受到人们的持久喜爱,并且有一些参与者没有意识到它们有多么受欢迎。 我对Bill Simmons的纪录片《游艇摇滚》很感兴趣,也期待他未来的作品。我认为游艇摇滚乐适合在游艇上播放,以营造浪漫氛围,但其中也有一些令人毛骨悚然的歌曲。我与Bill Simmons讨论了游艇摇滚乐的定义,以及哪些歌曲属于游艇摇滚乐。 我还与Bill Simmons讨论了我们共同出演的80年代电影,以及我们对这些电影的看法。我们还讨论了童星的职业生涯,以及一些我们合作过的演员。最后,我们还讨论了拍摄一部名为《游艇摇滚杀手》的新电影的可能性,并对电影的剧情、演员阵容和配乐进行了讨论。 Bill Simmons: 我是一位纪录片制作人,我的作品包括关于Vince McMahon的纪录片和《游艇摇滚》纪录片。我认为游艇摇滚乐是唯一一种在消亡后才被定义为流派的音乐类型,MTV的出现导致了它的衰落,但一个名为“游艇摇滚”的网络系列剧在2005年左右促进了它的复兴。 人们对什么是游艇摇滚乐存在争议,但它通常围绕着男性与前女友之间的关系展开。肯尼·洛金斯和迈克尔·麦克唐纳德的歌曲通常被认为是游艇摇滚乐,但都比兄弟乐队的一些成员不喜欢被归类为游艇摇滚乐。我认为游艇摇滚乐和“Brat Pack”电影一样,都受到了人们的持久喜爱,都受益于有线电视和录像带的普及。 我还与Rob Lowe讨论了“Brat Pack”电影的定义,以及哪些电影属于“Brat Pack”。我们还讨论了汤姆·克鲁斯是否属于“Brat Pack”,以及安德鲁·麦卡锡在“Brat Pack”纪录片中被忽视的问题。最后,我们还讨论了拍摄一部名为《游艇摇滚杀手》的新电影的可能性,并对电影的剧情、演员阵容和配乐进行了讨论。

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What is the connection between Yacht Rock and the Brat Pack according to Bill Simmons?

Both Yacht Rock and the Brat Pack were cultural phenomena that became genres or labels after their peak. Just as the Brat Pack was a term coined later to describe a group of young actors in the 1980s, Yacht Rock was identified as a genre decades after its music was popular, from 1976 to 1985. Both faced similar reactions from those involved, with some embracing the label and others feeling it diminished their work.

Why did Yacht Rock become a genre long after its music was popular?

Yacht Rock became a genre in the mid-2000s, nearly 20 years after its music was popular, because it wasn't recognized as a distinct genre during its heyday. The term was coined after a 2005 web series parodying the music and artists of the era. The resurgence was fueled by Sirius XM's Yacht Rock channel, Spotify playlists, and debates over what qualifies as Yacht Rock.

What are the key characteristics of Yacht Rock music?

Yacht Rock is characterized by smooth, melodic sounds often associated with the late 1970s to mid-1980s. The music typically features themes of heartbreak, betrayal, or romantic longing, with a laid-back, California vibe. Artists like Michael McDonald, Kenny Loggins, and Christopher Cross are considered central figures. The genre is often described as music you'd play on a yacht while trying to set a romantic mood.

What role did hip-hop play in the resurgence of Yacht Rock?

Hip-hop played a significant role in bringing Yacht Rock back into the cultural spotlight by sampling its music in the early 1990s. This reintroduced the sound to a new generation, making it cool again despite its previous decline in popularity during the MTV era.

What is the significance of the 2005 Yacht Rock web series?

The 2005 Yacht Rock web series was a parody featuring LA comedy actors portraying artists like Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald. It played a crucial role in popularizing the term 'Yacht Rock' and reigniting interest in the genre by humorously highlighting its tropes and artists.

What is the debate around whether the Eagles are considered Yacht Rock?

There is ongoing debate about whether the Eagles qualify as Yacht Rock. While they are generally considered a California rock band, some of their songs, like 'One of These Nights' and 'In the City,' are often included in Yacht Rock playlists due to their smooth, melodic qualities. However, the band itself is not typically classified as Yacht Rock.

Why do some Yacht Rock artists dislike the label?

Some Yacht Rock artists dislike the label because they feel it diminishes their work or pigeonholes them into a specific genre. For instance, members of the Doobie Brothers and Steely Dan have expressed discomfort with the term, believing it oversimplifies their musical contributions and legacy.

What is the proposed concept for the Yacht Rock Killer movie?

The proposed concept for Yacht Rock Killer is a dark, comedic thriller where Rob Lowe plays a charming yet sinister character on a yacht, set to a soundtrack of classic Yacht Rock songs. The plot involves murder, romance, and suspense, with Diane Lane as the lead actress and Molly Ringwald as a suspicious friend who meets an untimely end.

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Rob Lowe and Bill Simmons discuss the Brat Pack and Yacht Rock. They reminisce about the St. Elmo's Fire sequel, Bill's documentaries, and the cultural impact of both phenomena.
  • Discussion of the parallels between the Brat Pack and Yacht Rock.
  • Bill Simmons's documentary projects.
  • Potential St. Elmo's Fire sequel.
  • The cultural impact of 80s movies and music.

Shownotes Transcript

Bill and Rob are talking all things Brat Pack and Yacht Rock! Bill Simmons, host of the popular Bill Simmons Podcast and producer of the new HBO documentary "Yacht Rock: A Dockumentary," joins Rob Lowe to discuss the parallels between yacht rock and the Brat Pack, what’s in store for the "St. Elmo’s Fire" sequel, Bill’s recent documentary projects with HBO and Netflix, and much more.

 

You can watch the full episode on YouTube at YouTube.com/@LiterallyWithRobLowe)!

 

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