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Ken Liu: Art in the Age of AI — #79

2025/2/13
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Ken Liu: 我认为当前关于人工智能和艺术的辩论没有抓住重点。我并不认为我们需要争论我们现在拥有的是否是真正的智能,因为定义词语对我来说并不有趣。我相信意识是从物质中产生的,因此,我并不反对创造真正的人工智能。然而,我不认为大型语言模型是实现这一目标的方式。我认为将人类智能简化为大型语言模型是错误的。我们不应该被这个花哨的玩具所迷惑,认为它和人类的思维是一样的。我们并不了解所有的事情,现在通过将大量数据输入到神经网络中来构建人工智能的方法是疯狂的。这项技术已经超越了科学,我们能做一些事情,但我们不明白为什么。 Steve Hsu: 我对你如何看待今天人类创造人工智能的活动,以及它对艺术和讲故事的影响感到好奇。

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Ken Liu, a prominent science fiction and fantasy author, discusses his unique upbringing as an immigrant and the influence of his diverse cultural background on his writing. He emphasizes the importance of empathy in storytelling and cautions against speaking for others.
  • Ken Liu's immigrant background and bilingualism enrich his storytelling.
  • He cautions against deterministic views of identity and the danger of speaking for others.
  • Empathy is crucial in storytelling but doesn't equate to complete understanding.

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Ken Liu (born 1976) is an American author of science fiction and fantasy. Liu has won multiple Hugo and Nebula Awards for his novel translations and original short fiction. Liu's short story "The Paper Menagerie" is the first work of fiction, of any length, to win all of the Nebula, Hugo, and World Fantasy Awards. Besides his original work, Liu's translation of Liu Cixin's Chinese language novel The Three-Body Problem (the first in the Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy) won the 2015 Hugo Award for Best Novel, making it the first translated novel to have won the award.

 

He studied English Literature and Computer Science at Harvard College, and graduated from Harvard Law School.

 

https://kenliu.name/)

 

Steve and Ken discuss: 

 

00:00 Meet Ken Liu: Acclaimed Sci-Fi and Fantasy Writer

04:25 The Immigrant Experience and Cultural Perspectives

09:22 Harvard, MSFT, HLS, Litigation

15:01 The Art of Storytelling and Technology

34:03 Controversy in AI Reasoning

34:31 Technology Outstripping Science

35:22 AI and the Arts

38:30 The Future of AI in Art

42:44 AI's Role in Creative Processes

50:04 Art, Automation, and Society

57:31 Favorite Science Fiction and Fantasy

01:03:06 The Genius of Philip K. Dick

Music used with permission from Blade Runner Blues Livestream improvisation by State Azure.

 

 

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Steve Hsu is Professor of Theoretical Physics and of Computational Mathematics, Science, and Engineering at Michigan State University. Previously, he was Senior Vice President for Research and Innovation at MSU and Director of the Institute of Theoretical Science at the University of Oregon. Hsu is a startup founder (SuperFocus.ai, SafeWeb, Genomic Prediction, Othram) and advisor to venture capital and other investment firms. He was educated at Caltech and Berkeley, was a Harvard Junior Fellow, and has held faculty positions at Yale, the University of Oregon, and MSU. Please send any questions or suggestions to [email protected] or Steve on X @hsu_steve.