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This time we're hearing from Rich Harper, Head of Digital Marketing, and Sophie Caswell, Head of Strategy and Innovation, as they reveal how AI search results are fundamentally altering the relationship between brands and their audiences.

The conversation challenges marketers to move beyond vanity metrics and rediscover marketing fundamentals. Rich shares how an obsession with performance has led many organisations to treat marketing departments as mere lead generation machines rather than strategic partners. Meanwhile, Sophie draws on her background creating communication strategies for major brands to explain why maintaining brand

Recorded ahead of their talk at the Marketing Society's Digital Day 2025, this episode emphasises the need to prioritise brand and creating a human connection—it's time we stop writing for bots!

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The zero-click crisis: How search AI Is changing digital marketing