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What's lost when we lose critical data?

2025/5/9
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David Brancaccio: 我报道了美国联邦政府停止追踪超过十亿美元灾难的成本。这一决定意味着我们失去了一种了解风暴、洪水和干旱等事件随时间推移的经济成本的工具,而这类灾难发生的频率正在增加。 政府声称此举是为了适应不断变化的优先事项、法定任务和人员变动。然而,气候专家认为,NOAA的数据库因其全面性和多年积累的数据而具有价值,其消失削弱了我们对气候变化经济影响的理解。 此外,我还报道了国会共和党人对常春藤盟校的学费定价方式展开调查,怀疑是否存在价格操纵行为,这反映了特朗普政府对精英机构施加的更大压力。 Henry Epp: 政府停止追踪灾难成本意味着我们失去了一种了解灾难经济成本的工具,而这类灾难正变得越来越频繁。虽然政府声称此举是为了适应不断变化的优先事项、法定任务和人员变动,但气候变化导致的昂贵灾难数量正在增加。NOAA的数据库因为其全面性和多年积累的数据具有价值,其消失削弱了我们对气候变化经济影响的理解。该数据库依赖于联邦和州政府机构以及保险公司的数据,并经过多年的维护,包含可追溯到1980年的经通胀调整的指标。 Ron Lieber: 大学利用数据算法来决定向学生收取多少学费。他们利用学生提供的各种信息(例如SAT/ACT成绩、邮编、高中信息等)来预测学生入学的可能性和支付意愿。这些算法会计算出应该向学生提供什么样的录取通知书以及学费。学生不应该被动接受大学的录取通知书和学费,应该积极争取更优惠的条件。如果其他大学提供更低的学费,学生可以与目标大学协商以获得更优惠的条件。学生应该积极主动地与大学沟通,争取获得更合理的学费,因为大学的算法预测并不一定准确。

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Does it count if you don't count it? The Trump administration moves to stop tallying the costs when tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, fires and earthquakes strike. I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. The federal government will no longer track the cost of the most expensive disasters in the country. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration will stop adding dollar damage tallies to its database of events that cause over a billion dollars in damage. Marketplace's Henry Epp is here with more.

The administration says it's retiring the database to align with, quote, evolving priorities, statutory mandates and staffing changes. What will be lost is a tool that gives the public an idea of the costs of events like storms, floods and droughts over time. And there's a clear trend here. Billion dollar disasters are happening more frequently. The NOAA counted 27 of these events last year. That's second only to the year before.

The administration notes that wealth gains and population growth in more vulnerable parts of the country are part of that equation. But the number of expensive disasters is also clearly increasing as the climate warms. But now we'll no longer have that tally to reference. Now, when I cover these terrible stories, I often turn to private sector data, for instance, calculations of insured versus non-insured losses. What did this government data do for us?

Several climate experts quoted in media reports about this move say that this particular database is valuable because of how comprehensive it is. It relies on data from federal and state agencies, as well as private data from insurance companies. And it's been kept up for years. It has inflation-adjusted metrics that go back to 1980. And as global warming continues to impact our economy, climate experts argue that having one less tool like this weakens our understanding of that impact.

And this is also part of a larger trend in the Trump administration. It's weakened the government's role in climate research. And that includes the dismissal last week of scientists who were working on a climate report that's mandated by Congress. All right. Marketplace is Henry up. Thank you.

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It's like, I don't know, airline seats. When you go to college, the person next to you may be paying more or paying less. You found, Ron, that many campuses get outside help from for-profit companies to figure out what to charge your kid? That's correct, David. This has become a data game, as it is in many other industries, for-profit or not. Basically, they're trying to suck as much information as they can in, whether it's information you tell them or information that they buy.

say, after you take the SAT or the ACT and you fill out a bunch of information on those forms before you take the test. I see. Things like, I mean, they really want to know if you're going to come, if they offer you the right baggage. That's probably the key thing. Right. That's the thing that they're ultimately trying to guess, right? They're cross-tabulating your zip code, which is a pretty good indication of your income, with your high school and the history of people coming

coming to a college and staying at the college for four years. From that school, they're looking at your grades to see the likelihood that you'll persist or flunk out or not. And then they're checking it against, you know, have you shown up on campus? How much interest have you demonstrated? And the machines, the algorithms that these consultants rent to the colleges, you know, sort of suck all of that in, do a bunch of computations, and then essentially tell the college what offer to make and at what price.

And parents and students would love to know more about whether it's fair. I mean, we would define that in different ways, but you don't want to think that the fix is in for someone else. And if you get the thin envelope in which the college says, no, thank you, you often will feel you were treated unfairly. Yeah. So as ever, David, I just want people to know what they are up against. And I think it's only fair to pull back the curtains.

and explain to readers and listeners what's happening and how these consulting firms and their clients talk about teenagers when they think that people like me and you and parents are not listening. And, you know, one of the morals of the story is that the first offer may not necessarily be

the best offer. Some computer somewhere is guessing and making some assumptions about you, and it's on you to go back to the school and say, actually, you got it wrong. Well, that's a profoundly important tip that you're offering there, right? You're saying that you don't just have to take what's in that envelope? Nope. So, you know, you have to be, you know, careful about it and polite and

You know, if you're sitting on a handful of offers from schools that are roughly similar and you've got one that's your first choice, but the net price for that one is higher than the others, it's worthwhile to go to the school and say, hey, did we do something wrong here? Because these other schools that you compete with are offering a little bit less. And

I or my kid has actually done a lot of really cool stuff, you know, since they applied several months ago. Let me tell you about it. And is there a way we could, you know, come to a different conclusion here? Ron Lieber writes the Your Money column for The New York Times. He's also author of the book The Price You Pay for College. Ron, always good to catch up. It's a pleasure and a privilege. Thank you, David. His New York Times piece was labeled Colleges Know How Much You're Willing to Pay. Here's How.

Some Republicans in Congress have sent letters to Ivy League schools asking for the data behind how they decide what students should pay at face value. There's interest in seeing if there is antitrust level collusion going on and who gets chosen for the freshman class. But this is also seen as part of the Trump administration's more general pressure on elite institutions, universities included.

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