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Introducing ‘Interesting Times’

2025/4/6
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Ross Douthat: 我认为美国正经历一个历史性的转折点,标志着从一个时代到另一个时代的转变。特朗普的回归权力清晰地表明了这一点。这一转变并非总是显而易见。2016年特朗普的胜利被视为意外,而2020年拜登当选则被解读为恢复正常。但事实并非如此。在新冠疫情爆发和俄罗斯入侵乌克兰之间,特朗普反对者渴望恢复的“正常”已经成为过去。 我认为后冷战时代已经结束,美国的主导地位受到威胁。世界正在经历前所未有的技术变革速度。与此同时,精神领域也在发生转变,新的信仰和技术正在深刻地改变着人际关系。一些最发达的社会正面临人口崩溃,而反动、激进和怪异的现象将持续存在。我们究竟是正在进入一个充满专制和冲突的黑暗时期,还是站在技术黄金时代的边缘?没有人真正知道,但我正在努力寻找答案。我的新节目《Interesting Times》将探讨这个充满不确定性的未来。

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There's a saying that comes to mind these days. May you live in interesting times. It's understood to be a curse, even though it sounds like a blessing. The golden age of America begins right now. From New York Times Opinion, I'm Ross Douthat. Donald Trump's return to power is a clear sign that we've experienced a real turning point in history. A shift from one era to the next.

That shift wasn't always so obvious. Trump's victory in 2016 was seen as an accident, an aberration. The election of Joe Biden was interpreted as a restoration of normality. But that's not how it went. Somewhere between the emergence of COVID and Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the normality that Trump's opponents aspire to restore has slipped into the past.

If you look around, it's clear the post-Cold War era has ended. I'm not aligned with Putin. I'm not aligned with anybody. I'm aligned with the United States of America. American power is still with us, but its preeminence is under threat. Beijing declaring it's prepared to go to war with America. Technological innovation is suddenly accelerating. A lot of people have said that this is the craziest technology they've ever seen.

At the same time, the spiritual landscape is shifting. The old-time religions still win converts, but there's a yearning for other gods as well. Pagan, psychedelic, extraterrestrial, the machine god of AI. The smartphone and virtual reality are forcing deep changes to basic human relationships. You're dating your computer? No, she's not just a computer. She's her own person.

And some of the most advanced societies on Earth are facing demographic collapse. The reactionary and radical and simply weird are here to stay. Are we entering a dark valley of authoritarianism and conflict? Or are we on the brink of a technological golden age? No one really knows, but I'm trying to find out.

My new show is called Interesting Times. It's about a future that's much more open and uncertain than at any point in my own adult lifetime.

Every week, I'll be exploring some aspect of the New World Order through interviews and conversations. So join me, listen and subscribe to Interesting Times wherever you get your podcasts. All right, I think we've seen enough. What do you think? This is going to be great television, I will say that. See?

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