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The Progressive Regulator With Trumpist Fans

2025/6/19
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Ross Douthat: 我认为许多美国人的生活都笼罩在大公司的阴影之下,我们每天都在使用它们的产品和服务,却很少思考这背后的影响。我们需要认真审视大企业对我们生活的影响。 Lina Khan: 作为反垄断的倡导者,我认为我们需要对不受约束的经济权力保持警惕。就像我们需要在政治领域制衡权力一样,我们也需要在经济领域防止出现贸易领域的独裁者。反垄断法旨在保障我们的自由,确保我们有真正的选择,防止企业滥用权力,损害消费者、工人和小企业的利益。同时,我们也要认识到,市场的结构并非不可避免,而是法律、规则和政策选择的产物。

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Is the key to freedom a life without Amazon? This week, Ross talks to Lina Khan, former Chair of the Federal Trade Commission about how unchecked corporate power has limited choice in our day-to-day lives, and how her fight against Big Tech unites left and right.

  • 02:41 - What’s wrong with big business?
  • 09:27 - The political costs of corporate consolidation
  • 11:39 - How the 2008 financial crisis shaped Lina Khan's philosophy
  • 17:49 - The antitrust consensus from Reagan to Obama
  • 21:54 - How the left and right align against big business 
  • 26:12 - Khan's wins and losses at the FTC 
  • 36:53 - Is the Trump administration embracing or rejecting Khan's vision?
  • 42:32 - Is anti-monopoly policy the solution to our economic problems?
  • 48:38 - Can Big Tech be broken up?

*(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) *

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