8-22-24 McElroy & Cubelic in the Morning Hour 1: Most Impactful SEC transfers; Ferentz suspended; figuring out JuCo exclusive degrees
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McElroy and Kubelik in the morning starts now. All right, welcome in. McElroy and Kubelik in the morning. Appreciate you guys tuning in. 7 a.m. Thursday, August 22nd, right here on JOX 94.5. A lot to get into today, and it's not often that we have sort of breaking news during our show. But Iowa head coach Kirk Fair is going to be suspended for the team's opener. That's going to be against Illinois State on August 31st. He and wide receiver coach...

John Budmare going to be suspended for the first game of the season. Apparently a recruiting violation that took place yesterday.

for impermissible contact with Cade McNamara before the transfer portal opened in 2022. Scott Dockterman of The Athletic reporting this. Now, not clarity as of today, if it's or as of right now, if it's the NCAA, if it's Iowa and how this is necessarily going down. Press conference today at 130. You'll get pieces of that presumably on three man front. I'm sure Feinbaum will have a little bit more on it after that.

Seth Wallace, linebacker coach, defensive coordinator, most likely to be moved up. He's been moved up before. But a weird situation this late in fall camp, G-Mac, where now all of a sudden the most tenured head coach in college football is not going to be on the sideline for his team week one. It's pretty wild. But then again, I mean, there's so many things, what you can do, what you can't do. I mean, for goodness sakes, I mean, they're paying players. Like, what is illegal anymore? I mean, tampering, was he...

Was he on Michigan's roster? And then you decided to reach out to him. Like at what point does it, I mean, do we really care? I mean, seriously, I'm not trying to, it's not like Cade McNamara is some game changing piece for Michigan that he just went and took off their roster. So I guess I just don't really understand. Like sometimes I feel like I have a hard time figuring out like why they pick the battles they choose to pick. Um,

Find them, take away a recruiting day, but not having their coach on the sideline against Illinois State, what does that even mean? It's purely... Well, this could be Iowa. We don't know yet. Could be, but it's literally a slap on the wrist. It's no different than, hey, it's a Tuesday night. You're grounded. Okay, well, I wasn't going to do anything anyways, but you're still grounded.

Ground me on a Saturday and that's a different animal. Like, make Kirk Ferentz unavailable against a real Big Ten opponent and then maybe I would view this a little differently. Make him ineligible to be on the sideline for week two when they play Iowa State. Like, what do you... I mean, it's just... It's virtue signaling when you suspend them week one against a team that has no chance of beating you. Yeah, it's definitely weird. But if you broke the rules, you broke the rules. And...

What are the rules? I mean, I don't think you're supposed to contact guys when they're at other schools about transferring to your school. I know that's a rule. And a lot of guys are worried about tampering and have talked about tampering and have made their stance clear on tampering. And we've talked about it before, how a lot of that contact usually takes place. If Cade McNamara is reaching out to Kurt Ferentz, I'm not sure why anybody should be extremely mad at it. But either way,

As you stated, Illinois State on August 31st, probably not going to be a massive deal and probably going to be one that Iowa is going to be able to handle. The other part of this is that Cade McNamara has not been named starting quarterback yet. He's battling Brendan Sullivan, Northwestern transfer. And that's I just felt like that was one of my takeaways from this story, Greg, that it was a little bit odd that he hasn't necessarily been named the guy yet.

Well, it's not like he's been lighting it up. By all accounts, he's had some challenging practices, one in which it was really bad. But that was, from what I've been told, an anomaly. But it's still of concern if he hasn't separated himself after six years. Not that Brennan Sullivan's a bad player. He's a power five transfer. He's a D1 prospect coming out of high school and all that sort of stuff.

But you'd like for Cade McNamara to kind of take the bull by the horns and really separate. But by all accounts, he's been the most steady guy in camp. It's just people have gravitated towards the performance that was atrocious on their fan day that was open to the public. So hopefully that can be something that gets a little bit better as they go along. But I don't know. I mean, this is a new offense. None of us really know what to expect with this new offense.

No, and apparently spring game was just as bad for Cade McNamara, and that was visible to different people. And he wasn't great. As a matter of fact, he was miserable in the spring game for Iowa. So that was one when he came in that a lot of people got really excited about. I kind of didn't really see it.

I think he moves around well. I think he's got some good mobility, and he's got a strong arm, but I just don't view him as a great quarterback. A lot of people thought he was going to solve a lot of Iowa's problems, but we'll see if he's even the guy, and then we'll see if this impacts Iowa early in the season. It's not really expected that it's going to, but either way. He is obviously a portal player and a portal guy. One thing I want to try to...

Have a little bit of a conversation on today is just the transfer portal and the transfer portal guys. We mentioned a couple of weeks ago that it feels like there are really good players that I don't want to say they've slipped through the cracks as far as we don't know about them or we don't talk about them, but just maybe aren't getting the kind of buzz that they still should be. And I was going through just looking up some portal numbers top to bottom and it's

It's kind of eye-opening when you revisit it. We'll do that here in the first hour of the show, kind of discuss a little bit of SEC transfer players. We could even go national if you want to. Just start out with some guys, maybe Auburn, Alabama, which transfer player impacts them the most. We'll go to the SEC, which portal player is going to have the biggest impact there. And I think what we should do as far as portal guys, maybe at every SEC school or throughout the SEC, who's going to be that guy statistically, Greg?

And then who's going to be the guy that sort of we see as had the biggest impact? Because there's not there's going to be some guys that have a massive impact that don't have a ton of numbers in the general public's not looking at as the best portal player. Well, the general public is going to navigate towards quarterbacks. That's just that's just the way it's going to go. I mean, let's let's be real here. But you tell me you get a transfer at left tackle or a transfer at center.

That solidifies an offensive line. And hey, maybe you had some leakiness right up the middle. And now, hey, guess what? Those problems are a thing of the past. That's a pretty nice luxury. But I don't know if the John Q fan is going to acknowledge the importance of that center spot. The only thing he's going to notice is whether or not the snap is accurate or inaccurate.

So I think that's something that's going to be really worth watching. I think Seth McLaughlin, for instance, transferred to Ohio State, just to use him as an example. No one's going to notice if Ohio State's better in the middle of their offensive line. Gosh, they need to be. But no one's going to notice if they are. If Seth McLaughlin starts snapping over Will Howard's head, they're going to think he stinks. But he's actually a really good player. He just had some snap inaccuracies last year that were not all his fault. But that's a...

conversation for another day. He might ultimately, even more so than Caleb Downs, because they were already going to be very solid at safety, he might ultimately be as impactful as Caleb Downs for Ohio State. In the event in which Quinshawn Judkins gets a little banged up, Quinshawn Judkins, yeah, bigger name, bigger stat line, higher profile, but Seth McLaughlin might ultimately end up being a more impactful transfer for

to shore up a weak spot along their offensive line than the aforementioned two in Quinshawn and Caleb, who are both All-American candidates. So, like, that's an example, like...

Transfer value is kind of in the eye of the beholder, but I do think there's quite a few things to look at when evaluating how impactful these guys can be. I would agree. And 800-239-9569, you want to get in, talk portal players who you think has the biggest impact in the SEC this season. Alabama, Auburn, which portal player has the biggest impact there? And we'll draw the line here.

Transfer in this season. So not transfer that's been there for two, three years that all of a sudden has the best season. But we'll go with just guy, newcomer, that is coming in through the transfer portal. Speaking of the transfer portal and transfer offensive lineman, Alabama tackled Caden Proctor yesterday on when he realized he wanted to come back to Alabama. Maybe like a month and a half in, you know, I kind of just... We'll try to get that audio repaired. Oh, that sounded good.

Well, is he making an appearance at AutoZone? I feel like I was listening to like a drill in the background taking the lug nuts off the tires. They do that at AutoZone. I don't know. Maybe in the pits at Talladega. A little faster there. Yeah, that's a little louder. I know that sound. What are your expectations for Caden Proctor this season? I hope he's improved. I think he played a little better down the stretch.

I think the speed of the game really hurt him early. I'm not an offensive line guru, but I kind of know when the guys are real slow off the ball. I think that there were snap issues all last year, though, and the offensive line never really got going on a consistent enough basis with the snap count. I think there were communication issues with the snap count, and I thought he was late getting off the ball a bunch.

So how much of it was physical and how much of it was circumstantial? That's I think what I've – as I've gone back and studied him all offseason, I do think there were some circumstantial challenges that he had to overcome. But then again, I thought his technique left a little to be desired from time to time, but he's a true freshman.

And that's really not that surprising playing left tackle in the Southeastern conference. So I'm cautiously optimistic about what kind of years he's going to have. I just don't know if I'm going to say he's the, you know, the second coming of Joe Thomas. I know he's a five-star and there's a big dude, all that stuff. I just think that not all five stars are created equally. I don't see him as of this moment as like a future top five pick, uh,

But, hey, that's based off of year one. If there's a big leap made this year, I might completely change my tune. So how would you assess him? I've told you before, I have concerns that he just hasn't been in pads this offseason. And my understanding is that he's had a good fall camp. My understanding is that he's taken a lot on himself to go talk to his teammates. I know he went and talked to his head coach one-on-one and just kind of

Wanted to make sure everything was okay there, just kind of keep in touch, just let him know how he was feeling about different things. So I think he's been a good communicator since he's come back, and that doesn't happen a lot with a lot of college football players. We know he's going to be able to move people, and it's past pros that's going to be a little bit of an issue for him.

And if he is a little bit lighter, which it appears as though he is, I think that could help. I mean, he's going to be big enough if he loses 20, 25 pounds to still be able to hold on to a bull rush. It's not going to be an issue for him. We know he's got talent. I just did a little bit. I know how much I improved during spring practice pretty much every year. And it's just because you get those physical reps and you,

You can't fake those. No, you can't fake those. I have just a little bit of concern as far as kind of what that's going to look like and if he's going to be able to make that big of a jump because he didn't get those reps and pads. But it might be great. Don't know. But he's a guy that can absolutely help Alabama this year. I think we all know that. And try to hear from Caden Proctor again discussing when he realized he needed to come back to Alabama. How do you think the –

How do you think the weight should be handled with him? What do you think is an appropriate playing weight? I don't know exactly where he's at right now. I know we've heard probably what you've heard. He's down a little bit, but I don't know how much. And I don't know what's appropriate. Like, what should he be playing? I'd love to see him at about 340, 345. He was around 370-ish last year. I just don't think you need to be over 350.

I don't know. Tell me an offensive lineman in the NFL that's over 350 that you think is really, really good. Is Trent Williams? He's like 330. No, he's not near 350. No. 330? He's Panay Sewell. Like some of your more massive guys in the NFL, they're not 350. Panay Sewell's not 350. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. None of those guys are. Is there anyone in the NFL that's 350 that is good? Not that I can think of off the top of my head, no. But I just don't think you need that extra weight. I mean, the strength will be there. Is J.C. Latham 350? Yeah.

Probably, but I think he got down too. I think he cut some weight and may be down under 350. I'll tell you what he was at the Combine. 6'6", 342. Yeah. And he told me at Alabama's Pro Day that that was a significant part of his process to get ready, is that he wanted to cut some weight and show that he could be a little bit more nimble.

So this is Caden Proctor when he realized he needs to come back to Alabama. Maybe like a month and a half in, you know, I kind of just started feeling like it wasn't the place for me. But, you know, it's all in the past. It is what it is.

So pretty quickly knew that, and then on him going to Kalen DeBoer this offseason. When I got back, I had to apologize because I knew that when he first came here, his first week here, first day, a couple days, I really wasn't giving him a chance. And, you know, I just kind of started that conversation with an apology because I really felt bad. And, you know, it was kind of had to have my mind set on leaving and not really listening to what he had to say to me.

So, once again, just showing a lot of maturity for somebody who I think the narrative would be lacks a little bit of it based on how some of the decisions have been made and where he's gone and come back and left. But it does feel like that maturity is there now, G-Mac, and that's something that's going to help you across the board with your process, getting ready, preparation, understanding of how to handle your business, and good to see that that part may be coming along a little bit faster for Caden Proctor. That's huge. And I think, you know, hey –

Metal toughness, all that other stuff. I mean, it was learned last year. Whether you liked it or not, man, it was tough sledding there for a little while. So it's nice that he's come out of the other side, has a different level of maturity. And look, Bama's a great place. I mean, I don't need to tell you that. You know how I feel. It's a great place, but what's great about it is the fact that everybody is pushing you to become a better player. It's just a very, very competitive atmosphere, and that was bred –

from 17 years of Coach Saban implementing culture. Just because things have changed, I think it's easier to become your best at Bama because you don't have a choice. I'm not saying that you can't do it at Georgia or Auburn or other places. You can, for sure. I just think for a lot of guys, because of the built-in accountability within the locker room, it's easier to become your best. I think that's attractive to a lot of great players. I think it might have been unattractive to him at first, and then when he went elsewhere...

He's like, hang on a second. I like having people push me on my own roster. I like having to look over my shoulder knowing that if I don't practice well today, I'm going to be running with the twos tomorrow. That's a really valuable skill. And if you really want to become the best that you want to be, those are places that you want to be. You want to be places that your best is demanded every day. That's what competitors want. So I think that'll be something worth watching and monitoring. But I'm pretty optimistic that...

He's probably going to be all right. He's probably going to be all right this year, and I'm really, really hopeful that he can kind of cash in on some of that potential. I found the biggest offensive lineman in the NFL currently, Makai Becton, 6'7", 364. And he could probably afford to cut a little bit of weight. You think? But he's just a massive individual in general. Yeah, he's big. But I'm just saying, like, there's nobody that's over 350 at –

Along the offensive line right now, that's like kicking butt and taking names. So if they're not doing it in the NFL, why would you do it in college? Yeah, totally fair. That's my thought. The big question I have is we're going to move to a transfer portal discussion in our next segment is do we count Caden Proctor? Yeah. Yeah, he's a double transfer. I'm just asking. I mean, I don't really – if you didn't play at another place, do we count that? Did he go to class at another place?

Go to in person? Probably not. No. I mean, I'm just going to it's an assumption on my part, but I would say for most any college kid now. I mean, Montrell Johnson told us at media days he's never been to a class in person at Florida. Not one time. You've you've never said his name until now. Well, he told me in a live radio interview. So it's not like it's not out there. I'm trying to bury the kid, but I mean, he's obviously not the only one that that's happening for.

I know all the older transfer graduate quarterbacks never go to class, like Jaden Daniels, Joe Burrow, those guys. I don't even think they pretend, but most of these guys are not going to a lot of classes in person. Well, if you graduate. For me, it's unfortunate. I think it's sad. If you graduate, all you need is six hours, and you're good. I think when I was a graduate student, I went to class one day a week.

On Monday nights. There was an independent study that our graduate guys would always take that you showed up and they gave you like the syllabus for the year and then you came back at the end of the semester and turned in your work and did your whatever it was. I was there. I never to that point to get to that. You never got to the graduate program. You know what? I didn't do that. Eight years was not there. Eight years. Who are you? Was not there. Eight years. He's not Langer. Almost five.

Took my red shirt year. Took my time. We didn't have people pushing us along back then. Back then it was take your time, get the GPA in order. And now the mindset is get your credits in as fast as humanly possible because we might want you out of here. Think you're Stetson Bennett or something? No. Definitely don't have multiple natties. Yeah, but you have more degrees. Do I?

All it takes is one to win that battle. But does he does he have the Juco degree? Did he get that before he went back to Georgia? Also known as what a G.I. Like what's a what's a what's a Juco degree? I mean, I know he's employed. There's more money than I do. Probably. He's got to make the roster on Sunday. Let's let's not let's not get carried away here. It's not a it's not a guarantee. It's fair. What is a Juco degree when you graduate from junior college? Is that a real thing?

You can get an associate's. Okay, associate's, but is that a JUCO degree? Sometimes. Is that what it's called? I bet Buddy Stevens calls it that. I don't have a problem with that. I just never knew that that was a thing. I have no idea. I've never been to JUCO. My dad went to JUCO. Does he have a degree? Yeah, but he got it from Hawaii.

But did he get a JUCO degree before he got a Y degree? I don't know. That's why I'm amazed. I never knew that was a thing. Like, I know there's associate's degrees that you can get. I didn't know. Like, when you get the credits that you need to go on to where you're going to go next, you don't think they give you a piece of paper to, like, put in a frame and hang up and say, you did it. Wasn't that in your eligibility, though, if you graduated? They just do graphics. I don't know. Maybe now. Did he transfer without penalty from JUCO after you graduate?

See, now we're getting into some of the loopholes that need to be discussed. I need to know. Could have been utilized. Can somebody text in 205-834-9450, somebody that has a JUCO degree, if there is one? And don't say I have an associate's. I know what an associate's degree is. I'm fine with that. I just don't. I've never heard of the JUCO degree. This is what the NCAA should be going after instead of Kirk Forenz just happened to be messaging his quarterback. Exactly. This is what he's going after. Independence. Yeah.

Okay. What's happening here? Post-secondary institution, vocational and academic training, designed to prepare students. I mean, I'm reading all this stuff. I'm very familiar with JUCO. Dad went.

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You can also shop online. Have a look right to your driveway at BillSmithBuickGMC.com. Talking transfer portal players and just kind of the number of guys that are going to be coming in to different spots in college football and then impact players throughout maybe the SEC and other spots around the nation. Before we get to that, do we have a definitive answer on junior college degree options?

Diploma from JUCO. Everybody that's sending in text messages, they're all saying a JUCO degree is an associate. It's not true. You can get an associate's degree without going to JUCO. As far as I know. Listen, everybody's just continuing to say associates. They say you can get a bachelor's degree at some junior colleges. It depends on which one you go to and which state it's in. Some junior colleges are restricted to certificates.

So, see, I was under the impression. So what do you do when you leave? You say, I got my JUCO certificate? Oh, yeah, you have your certificate for the credits that would transfer. I get that when I do DEI training online for Cumulus. What's the difference? You're done with your modules? A certificate? Yeah, you have to print it out. You put it on your wall. I got that from Budweiser Beer School when we went to Disney at the Citrus Bowl in 2000. Okay. We're talking about a certificate. Okay.

That's just – I got that from TSA in industrial arts in seventh grade, a certificate. What's the point of – It's a certificate of merit. You don't go to school for a certificate. No. Did you get a degree or not? Or did – what is your certificate? You accumulated enough credits to move on to the next thing?

Why can't you just graduate from it? When you get a certificate, it's like basically going to Dave and Buster's and then now see how many tickets you have on your card. It's true. And that's your certificate. Like, here's how many certificates you have. And then you can go cash them in for whatever you want. Or you can transfer it to the next Dave and Buster's, which would ultimately be a four-year college. Like...

Like that's what a certificate is. And that is what I was under the impression of what you got when you went to Juco associates degrees, you can get in a bunch of different places. It doesn't have to be through a Juco. It doesn't, it can be through a four year. It can be through a bunch of different places. So I'm talking about something that is exclusive to junior college, a degree that is exclusive to junior college. And I was unfamiliar with that. And,

Cole seems to think that there is a degree that you get from Juco. No, Cole did not know. And Cole asked the question. I just figure if you didn't get a degree, like is there ever really a completion? I don't know the answer to that. I mean is it just – Certificate of completion. Is it basically like the green pipe on Mario Brothers? Like it just takes you to the next thing. That's it. This is just – it warps you to the next level. There is no finishing. There's no completion.

Is everyone in junior college just essentially going as a vehicle for the next thing in line? Perhaps. I don't know the answer to that. Now, you can get like a professional associate's degree and things like that while attending junior college. Like there's a lot of things that you can do. But I did not know that there was a JUCO degree. I've never heard of such a thing. Okay, John in Alabaster says he has a very interesting type of degree. John, welcome in. Thank you.

All right, guys. So how's it going? This is my first time calling in. We appreciate you calling. So as a former alumni of Snead State Community College, you do graduate and receive an associate's degree. But that is not the only place where you can get an associate's degree. That sounds more credible than a certificate, though. That's not the only place where you can get an associate's degree, though, correct? You can get associate's degrees in multiple different places.

That is possible. I'm not 100% sure, but you do get an associate's degree. You don't get a certificate. I have an actual degree that it comes in the little folder that you got. There you go. That's official. You got from Auburn. It's official. The president signs it, and you have a graduation ceremony. You wear your tassel. You wear your gown and everything. Let's slow down on comparing that to my Auburn degree, John. All right? Let's just take it easy for a second. Okay.

We know how much that's worth for me personally. I mean, yeah. Yeah. So much. What did you major in, Cole? Communication. What I'm doing with you and all of our lovely listeners right now. But communication is basically. You're welcome. Thank you. Communication is business without math. I've said this before on the show. After I took microeconomics one is split in half.

I decided to go talk to my counselor and said, give me all the degree options without math or the least amount of math requirements. That was at the top of the list. I said, I always want to do some kind of broadcasting. Maybe we can make that go. Good. It started out as RTVF, and then they changed it to mass communications. So radio, television, film, what it was initially. Now I believe it's actually broadcast journalism at Auburn that you can master in. I am a master of nothing.

It's a lot of protection. Tape. And how bad it is. I wouldn't say I'm a master. I would say I'm above average. We're trying to get better every day. You have a certificate in it. Oh, okay. They don't hand those out. You can't earn a film certificate. You just do it or you don't. You got to work. You got to work for that. You're handing out trophies for that. Can't be doing it. So there you go. George got one of those degrees too.

Why do you keep putting that on there? Here we go. All right. Four-year institutions also give out associate degrees. Four-year institutions, online universities, in addition to community colleges and junior colleges. Technical schools as well. You can get associate degrees and various whatnot. So we're on the same page.

There we go. I knew it. I want to know the JUCO exclusive degree. It's called an associate's. I don't think they're – It's called – everything I've seen on this text line, everybody said it's an associate's degree. It's an associate's degree. But as you heard our caller calling in, thank you for the first time you've called in. He said that they – you have the little fold-out leather-bound booklet that has the piece of paper, not certificate, in it. And cap and gown actually walked –

There you go. It's real. See? It's not just a transportation item to your next destination. It's not a bus ticket. I feel like we've been downplaying the educational values of junior colleges based on the athletic side of this for a long time, and we need to reverse that immediately. It's not fair to them. I'm confused. Good. Are you suggesting because you watched the show? Last chance you. Yeah.

My dad went to JUCO. You're telling me it's not like that? Dad went to JUCO because he wasn't big enough to get a D1 scholarship. So he had to go to JUCO and get bigger and then ultimately got a D1 scholarship. This actually sounds completely backwards because all I saw on Last Chance U is that kids can't eat.

I don't know how that works. How would you go get bigger? I'm not sure. If they can't even make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for them. I don't know how that works. I don't know. I can't speak to that. They handed out creatine? I don't know. Dad did not go to JUCO in Mississippi where they were practicing in 500-degree heat. I think gaining weight on the West Coast was a little bit easier because they practiced in 72-degree weather.

pretty much year round. So I think it'd be harder to gain weight if you were sweating out eight pounds of practice. Most likely. Yeah. All right. Portal numbers. When we come back, some of which you are just flat out, not going to believe next on Mac and cube in the morning, the capital of the sports talk nation. This is jocks 94, five and jocks. Fm.com. All right. Welcome back in macro and cube link in the morning.

Cornerback A.J. Terrell agrees on a four-year extension worth $81 million, 65.8, fully guaranteed, second highest paid cornerback ever. He plays for the Falcons, for folks that weren't aware. I thought he played for Clemson. Well, that's where he... At one point in time? That's where he played in college. That's where he got his associates in football. What do you make of Clemson?

Don't know. That was before NIO. That was before NIO. Dang it. Yeah, he was a couple years away. All right, I want to get to some transfer portal numbers that I think you guys might find interesting. We're going to talk impact portal players in just a moment. 800-239-9569 if you want to get in. The 2022-23 cycle, so the full year of transfer portal players, 11,078 went in.

The previous year, 9,545. Now, if we were just talking FBS, so that's a lot of lower-level kids also, you had 4,042 go in. The previous year, 3,570. Do you guys know the school who had the most players go into the transfer portal this year? Go into the transfer portal? Most players that exited their prior school via the transfer portal this last cycle.

Colorado. 51. What will probably surprise you more is who's next. Texas A&M. Alabama with 47.

Miami had 46, Michigan State 44, Indiana 43. Now keep in mind that's an entire year. It was the most by 11, no 12 for Alabama. They had 30 in the 22-23 cycle, 35 in the 21-22 cycle. So it's a lot more than Alabama's used to. Now we don't think it's going to make that big of a difference because it wasn't a lot of the top end guys. I mean, yes, Amari Nyblak, Isaiah Bond maybe could hurt a little bit, but Caleb Downs, of course, but...

A lot of those guys were lower-level guys, maybe depth guys that Coach Saban would still tell you would have hurt the team, but we're just not going to be talking about all the time, of course. But coaching change is not that surprising. No. It's going to happen then, of course. Most commitments through the transfer portal in this previous cycle. Colorado. Do you want to take a guess who that is? Yes, 40. Do you think you know one of the next four teams? Yes. Okay. I'll say.

Because it's not Ole Miss. No. Alabama. No. I'll say UCF. It's a good guess, but no. It is a good guess. Say NC State. Louisville, 30. Indiana, 29. Texas A&M, 29. Arizona State, 27. So we were talking about building your portal roster or your roster through the portal. Those schools may be doing it just a little bit more than some of the others.

As it pertains to moving past just going to school somewhere else, transfer portal players drafted. So after they end up at that new destination, how that has looked. 2024, 78. Out of how many again? How many players are drafted? Oh, no, no. Out of how many players are transferred, I guess. But you wouldn't have, like, final year draft eligible transfers. Correct. That's an inflated number. There's about 260.

70 drafted, give or take 250. So 78 drafted last year, 47 the previous year, 34 in 2022, 24 in 2021, 21 in 2020 and 18 in 2019. This may be the most telling number to me. In 2017, there was not a player drafted that had transferred. In 2017. Correct. In the first round. Oh, in the first round.

So if we're talking first rounders in 2017, there was not a first round player drafted that had transferred. And then it goes two, three, one, two, two, four, nine. Nine first rounders that had transferred last season. So we know the importance of it, but just putting some numbers with the context of how important the portal is in today's college football. And when you think about guys that may be the most impactful players,

of the transfer portal. We'll hit a couple of those when we come back, both statistically, what's it going to look like, who's going to put up the biggest numbers, and maybe who has the biggest impact on their individual team. And we'll do it for Alabama, Auburn, a couple SEC teams, maybe around the nation next on Mac and Cube in the morning. Catch up with all things McIlroy and Kubrick in the morning by subscribing to the podcast. Mythically, he's grown. He's almost like a little bit bigger than...

A player, right? Like the myth of Bo Jackson. Like, rate, and download the show from the Jock Cup or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, welcome back in. McElroy and Kubelik in the morning. A little throwback there from John Saber. Any particular reason you went with this one? I just love the song. Did Sheila transfer? Maybe. Associate's degree. Ready for the World wasn't Associate of Prince. Juco transfer. Juco transfer.

Do you know what the number one Billboard Hot 100 song was the last time Nick Saban was not Alabama's head coach for a game? I bet it was a pit bull song. Not counting 2020? Stop. It was in the 1900s. It was not in the 1900s, by the way. Not even the early 1900s. But he wasn't the head coach. Correct.

It was like, no, it would have been literally January 2nd of 2007. I got nine to call you in 2020. So I'm going to say like a Kelly Clarkson song. It's not a bad guess, no. Irreplaceable by Beyonce. Also, iPhone had yet to be released. It's been a while. Jim Harbaugh had not coached an FBS game.

The last time Nick Saban was Alabama's head coach for a football game. So just a little bit of throwback there. Let's go to transfer portal players and who we think has the biggest impact. If we went nationally, Greg, is there one that sticks out of the others that you immediately just say that's going to be that guy nationally? Yes. Cam Ward. Okay. Miami for me.

I don't know if as many people are as high on Miami as I am. I think he is a notable improvement over a position that was close at times last year, but really fell in upon itself, collapsed upon itself like a dying star in the final five games of the year. He threw 11 picks in the last five games of the year. That's just not going to get the job done. And yet they still had chances in those games, which is sick.

So I think with where they struggled last year in the red zone, where they struggled at times with turnovers, I don't know if there's a guy that can improve their prospects more than Cam Ward.

Okay. Damian, one national for you that kind of sticks out. The thing that's going to be hard for me on this is it's going to be easy to go quarterback. And I think there are going to be a lot of other guys that have big impacts that maybe don't have the numbers put up to stats. But is there a guy that sticks out for you right away? Yeah. I mean, Quenshawn Judkins at Ohio State. I think, you know, now with what he was able to do at Ole Miss,

You take that up there to the Big Ten and the playmaking ability that he has, where I can only imagine what Chip Kelly's got designed for him in that backfield. I think he'll have an immediate impact as soon as he gets up there. And then some of this, too, is quarterbacks, how they play. There are certain quarterbacks that if they live up to the expectation, they go somewhere else. It could be massive. It could be totally different. So let's dial into Alabama and Auburn. Transfer at Alabama, you think, has the biggest impact.

This upcoming season, Greg. And I guess if you want to go Proctor, you can. No, I won't do that one. That one feels like, I don't know, that one feels pretty obvious. So I'll go Jeremy Bernard. I'm tempted to go Parker Brailsford, but I'm going to go Jeremy Bernard. I think they're both, I don't know if they have to be one and two for most people, should be one and two, but they'd be one and two for me. And I would probably go...

Jeremy Bernard first because there are some unknowns. I mean, if you're going to go Caleb Oban and Ryan Williams as freshman receivers that are going to play, you're going to need some vets around them. You have to imagine they'll run out of gas at some point in time and just not going to be the same guys early in the season that they might be late. And then there's been some inconsistencies with some of the older receivers. So...

I think that's absolutely where I would go. Brailsford obviously is going to touch the football on every play, so he's going to impact the game. You won't see a lot of stats. You won't see a lot of numbers, but especially with some of the inconsistencies that they had with center quarterback exchange last year.

If that's cleaned up and he's a big part of it, then that's going to be massive. So would you go anybody outside of those two, Damian, as your biggest impact player for Alabama this year that's a transfer? Nah, I would have gone Jeremy Bernard as well. Okay. John, you go those two as well? One of those two? I would say if you want to have another one with Keyon Sapp, safety, transfer from Michigan. If you want to have one more, that'd be big. And hopefully for all the right reasons, Graham Nicholson, a kicker, but...

Not super optimistic with what I've heard there. From the kicking? Yeah. Oh. He won the Grozelash. He did. I thought we were talking football players, but that's fine. We didn't go there as well. All right. Transfer in at Auburn, who has the biggest impact this upcoming season? For you, Greg, will be? Probably Keiondre Lambert-Smith. That's where I would go. Just in the event in which...

Just in the event in which Cam Coleman's not ready for primetime week one, two, three, four, you have a veteran that's been around that can kind of stabilize that position for a few weeks before the freshmen get more comfortable. But then if he is ready for primetime and he draws extra attention weeks three, four, five, then.

Other guys could benefit from that, and Lambert Smith is somebody that I think could do that. I think there are some other directions you could go. You look at like a Percy Lewis at left tackle. I'm not as high on as a lot of other people, but let's say he were to come in, only give up two or three sacks all year, and be just solid, be fine, but not be a liability over there at left tackle. People aren't going to talk about that, but that would be massive for this offense, especially for the passing game. So I think there are a couple others you could go with, and then there are a lot of D linemen that are coming in.

Is there an individual that I look at that maybe will contribute or be much different than all the others? I'm not sure I see that, but I can understand where a lot of people would go that way. Damian, for you, which direction would you go? Yeah, I would go Keiondre Lambert-Smith as well, and also Robert Lewis, I think. But for everything that they've been able to do in recruiting, and kind of to Greg's point, these young guys, maybe the spotlight is a little too big just coming out of the gate.

But the fact that you have some guys that have played a lot of football and can really make an impact, it'll be Keiondre Lambert-Smith and Robert Lewis out there at receiver. Could be an Antonio Kite in the secondary. I'll also say Jaron Thompson, somebody who –

some things that we may not see or know about leadership, really something that I think a lot of people might not realize what he's doing this year has a chance to sort of be that guy in the secondary, the alignment, getting everybody's in the right spots, communicating different things. He could end up being massive for this football team and have the biggest impact, even though it might not be a hundred tackles and four interceptions, but could contribute in different ways. If we began going around the sec, Greg, let's go non quarterback. Is there an individual that sticks out?

More than others for you that you say that's going to be the biggest impact transfer of anybody else in the Southeastern Conference? Probably Trevor Etienne at Georgia. It was just knowing the position was was I don't want to call it a weakness because it just doesn't feel right. We're talking about Georgia here. It wasn't a weakness. It just wasn't a strength.

And you look at that off, he's going to make it more dynamic. They're going to be so much more dynamic and, and they're already a drop back passing team. Like we already know that. Um, and he fits that offense very nicely. He's a great pass catcher. He's a good route runner out of the backfield and he's got some jump and the guy can, the guy can cruise. So he would probably be the top guy. I think, um,

And when I think impact transfers, I think about teams that are going to be competing for something. It'd be easy for me to go to Mississippi State or Kentucky, but I don't anticipate those teams playing for the title. So how much of an impact could that transfer have actually made? So I'm going with a guy that I think can really improve a team that's already great, and that's Trevor Etienne at Georgia. All right. I like that pick, and I think he would also probably fall into the category of if we were going statistically who has the biggest impact. I would go –

Probably Deion Burks at Oklahoma. I think if you're talking about stats, numbers, and then impact that you kind of see and just vividly know about. No Chris Paul? I think he's going to have a good impact, but I think there's going to be a lot of guys you could choose from at Ole Miss. Prince Lee. Yeah. How do you say his last name?

Who's a bunch of them? Yeah. Yeah. I got Oman. Me, Ellen. Oman. Me, Ellen. Ellen. I do. Well, Ellen. Juice Wells would be up there. We're talking to an Ole Miss guy or maybe just anybody. But that's it. Yeah, that's that's a part of it. I thought there was a possibility you go Caden Green at Missouri. No, because I think it it might end up being Marcus Carroll or Nate Noel in the backfield.

Because I think you're going to have to pay attention to that receiving core. And the offensive line is going to be pretty good. And we know how Kirby Moore dials it up in the run game. I think one of those two. But then they might even split reps. So I don't know if it's going to be one of those two guys getting over 20 carries a game. What about Lance Hurd, Tennessee tackle? It's not coming along at the rate that it needs to so far. I'll tell you who else I've heard. Chris Brazel, Tennessee. I'll say I'll go that direction. He would be one.

You going to the MacVet Spectacular Saturday, Greg? That's my buddy's wife. Yeah, she's at the Corvette show. Yeah, her name's Courtney. Where do you hang out? That's my buddy's wife. That's how I take a picture. Big vet girl? I don't know. I need to text Jim. But it's cool that Courtney's getting some FaceTime with JJ. We got action. Here we go. We'll have FCS action with Sam Herter next on Mac and Cube in the morning. This is McElroy and Cubelik in the morning.

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