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Punk Rock, the Peace Movement, and Open-Source AI: The Mozilla Foundation’s Mark Surman

2024/1/17
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Mark Surman: Mozilla基金会致力于负责任的AI发展，其目标是确保AI技术的设计能够兼顾商业利益、公共利益和个人利益。Mozilla希望在AI时代体现人的能动性以及对技术构建的问责制。他们认为当前AI技术发展过快，缺乏对技术可能影响的充分考虑，并致力于通过倡导、构建开源AI以及将AI整合到Firefox等产品中来改变这一现状。他们强调在讨论AI时，应强调人的能动性，避免将责任推卸给机器。Mozilla AI致力于使开源大型语言模型更易于使用和值得信赖，并将其整合到Firefox等产品中，旨在保护用户并帮助用户做出更好的选择。他们认为，开源AI有机会创造一个比现有大型科技公司主导的数字经济更去中心化、更丰富、更开放的数字经济。他们支持公共选项，例如开源大型语言模型和公共资助的研究基础设施，以促进AI领域的创新，并通过多种方式支持开源AI项目，包括研发、投资和资助。他们认为AI监管应该循序渐进，优先解决隐私、竞争和消费者保护等重大问题，并需要数年甚至数十年时间才能制定出完善的AI监管框架，需要政府、产业和公众之间建立良好的合作关系。他们认为开源AI既是机遇也是挑战，开源方法可以促进对AI的审查和修复，但同时也存在被滥用的风险。 Sam Ransbotham和Shervin Khodabandeh：两位主持人主要就开源AI的可能性、AI监管的必要性以及Mozilla基金会的工作方法与Mark Surman进行探讨，并就相关问题提出疑问和看法。 Sam Ransbotham: Sam Ransbotham主要关注开源AI的实际应用和普及程度，以及如何确保AI的优化算法符合个人利益而非大型科技公司的利益。他与Mark Surman探讨了开源AI与Linux发展的相似之处，并对开源AI的未来发展前景表达了既乐观又谨慎的态度。他认为，即使小型语言模型最终未能占据主导地位，其存在也具有重要意义，因为它可以促进竞争，避免大型科技公司对AI领域的垄断。 Shervin Khodabandeh: Shervin Khodabandeh主要关注Mozilla基金会支持开源AI项目的方式、AI监管的作用以及AI技术发展的阶段性。他与Mark Surman探讨了Mozilla基金会如何支持Eleuther和Allen等开源AI项目，以及Mozilla Ventures在其中的作用。他还与Mark Surman讨论了AI监管的必要性和挑战，以及如何平衡公共利益和私人利益。

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Mark Surman discusses the role of open source technology in maintaining AI trustworthiness and safety, highlighting initiatives like Mozilla AI and Mozilla Ventures.

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When Mark Surman produced a pro-peace public service announcement for his local TV station as a self-proclaimed “punk rock kid” in the 1980s, he wasn’t thinking about a future career evangelizing fair, equitable, and trustworthy technology access for everyone. But today, as president of the Mozilla Foundation, he is focused on exactly that.

 Mark went on to study filmmaking and has parlayed his communications expertise into technology leadership roles, where he has continued to work to “change hearts and minds by telling the truth.” On this episode, Mark shares his take on the roles of both big tech and startups in the responsible AI conversation and also describes a recent report on trustworthy AI from the Mozilla Foundation. Read the episode transcript here).

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Mark Surman is president of the Mozilla Foundation, a global nonprofit that does everything from developing the Firefox web browser to advocating for a more open, equitable internet. His current focus is fueling Mozilla’s efforts to invest in responsible tech startups (via Mozilla Ventures) and to create foundational technology for more trustworthy AI (via Mozilla.ai). Before joining Mozilla, Surman spent 15 years leading organizations and projects that promoted the use of the internet and open-source technology for social empowerment.

Me, Myself, and AI is a collaborative podcast from MIT Sloan Management Review and Boston Consulting Group and is hosted by Sam Ransbotham and Shervin Khodabandeh. Our engineer is David Lishansky, and the coordinating producers are Allison Ryder and Sophie Rüdinger.

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