Babies in first class, wedding dress shopping & our trip to LA
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It goes into January this year? Yeah. That seems illegal. Like, do you think I didn't survive since I was 16 driving in a car? Like, now that I know you? Pete always has to be like, Jordan, before you, I was a single, independent man for five, six years. I remember how to live. Somebody asked the question of like, what do you think about mom wine culture or whatever? And we're not saying it can't function without the bottle, right? What?

Like, what on earth? Give mothers a break, okay? Welcome back to another episode of Mean Girl Pod. How are we going to see the notes? I have them in my computer. Okay, you have them sunk? Do you know that my... I got a laptop like three months ago and my laptop... Like, nothing has sunk to my laptop. So, like, my notes aren't... They're on my phone, but they're not on my laptop. It's terrible. It's terrible. So, the reason why Alex is asking is because...

So first of all, we're together in LA. Yay! Watch on YouTube. But my phone broke maybe five minutes before recording. Like her screen's green though. Yeah, like you can, I mean it looks white here, but it's, that's my phone. It's green and I think, you know how, like usually it goes black. I think it's green because she was on WhatsApp. Yeah, it's like WhatsApp green. It's so bizarre, but it's obviously still working because...

My computer is still syncing. Like when I get texts, I'll get texts. And my watch is too. So it's still like active. Yeah. So that's why my notes are synced. Because iCloud. Do you have the iCloud? I do have the iCloud. It's all messed up. That doesn't surprise me. Do you have your text on your computer though? Mm-hmm. Okay. And like I can see them popping up. So that's good. At least you have your text on your computer. Yeah. Like if all else fails, you can text on there. Yeah. I just have to figure out.

Getting to the airport tomorrow I mean I'll get my phone fixed today No matter what We're literally staying across From the Apple store So that's the good news And like oh But my phone We could use my phone But it's the noise machine Indicates stroller So Yes But I do have the app Or I do have The notes app In front of me I don't know

Talk about your monster and then we'll talk about how we walked here and how I wish I had monsters. I'm like, oh my God. That could be your thorn almost. Okay, great. That's my thorn. So the monster I picked, obviously, because we are on Sunset Boulevard, is the Ultra Sunrise Monster. What's it taste like? It tastes like sunshine in your mouth. Oh, love that. It actually tastes identical to McDonald's Hi-C. So whenever I drink it, it's so good. It's like I'm back in.

In middle school Love that Harrison Post made it to McDonald's the other day And I thought what Harrison did? Yes very unlike him Very healthy man Just needed a McDonald's hamburger I thought whoa Did you eat it? Nope I can't picture you eating McDonald's I had McDonald's chicken nuggets For the last time I ever ate at McDonald's I was just out of college And it was like 10pm at night And I went through the drive-thru I got McDonald's I threw up all the next day And that's it for me

I mean, it's over. It's filled with dairy. It's just... The chicken nuggets are? Well, I'm sure it's probably cooked in like butter and cross-contaminated. Have you ever seen the movie Super Size Me? Yeah. And they show, like, it looks like Play-Doh is the meat. Yeah. I mean, say less. Like, it's so bad. But we're in L.A. Yeah, we are. We're in L.A.,

We walked here. We did. It was only a mile and a half. Like, I don't know what happened. It was hot. It was a hike. It was a actual hike. And I didn't have a baby. I wasn't holding on to a baby. And I was sweating. I was like, so I... But we're also dressed too warm. Like, I have shorts on and I was hot. But I'm also going... I'm also... My temperature's off. Were you hot? I was sweating. Okay.

But I'm so grateful that I'm not wearing jeans because originally we were like, oh, wear jeans because we'll go to dinner from here. And then you were like, no, I'll have to go back and pump. And I'm like, thank God. So I have like sweatpants on. Thank God. Thank God. Also, while I just read this for dinner tonight, I know we're recording, but I'll just ask you here. Harrison and Ian. Oh, yeah, for sure. Is it cool if they come? Of course. Okay. Have I met Ian? Ian.

Oh, Ian Beck. Yes. Sorry. I thought... Sorry. I thought you meant one of his coworkers. No, that's why I'm asking because it's Ian. People are listening. I was like, wait, Ian, Ian. You know Ian? I was thinking one of his... What's his friend's name who... Alex. No, who has the AI...

Like with the photos and stuff. Jay? I was thinking him. You were thinking of a three-letter name. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. No, because Ian's here in LA. What are the odds? I don't know, but I see a text popping up from both of them, and I just know that it's dinner. I could too, but I wouldn't know. But I wouldn't know. Maybe Julie could text them and say we accept. Literally, I'm like... I mean, part of me feels very free without a phone. Like I'm kind of loving it. Oh, it's been 10 minutes. Okay.

But another part of me is like my type A brain is like, okay, worst case scenario. What am I going to do? How am I going to wake up in the morning? Get an Uber. Get my boarding pass. Like it's crazy how dependable we are on phones. Yeah, but you're like, I'm free. But they're like popping up on your laptop and you're like, watch. You're not that...

Who told me the other day that we view phones as a body part? It has not left my mind since then. Like if it's too far away from me, you're like, I need it. That's actually so true. Exactly. It stuck with me. Because if my phone for some reason didn't get fixed, I would have to go back to the olden days and be like, hey, front desk, can you give me a wake up call? Can you call me a taxi? Can you? I would have to print my boarding pass off. Oh, wow. That would be. It'd be like the 90s. It would be like 10 years ago. It would be the 90s.

So I was up at 2.30 LA time and I don't look at my phone when I pump anymore, but I was using it for light and I get a text from Jordan. And I think, huh. And it's her asking me, what Ubers pick you up from LA? And I was just thinking like, she's not even to the airport in New York yet. She's already wondering where,

She's already plotting her travel for the whole day. I was like, it's 5.30 in New York and she already wants to know what Uber to call when she lands in seven hours. And you're like, are you on your way to the airport? What time is your flight? I'm like, not for three hours. I just knew. I was like, oh my gosh. JFK was a nightmare though. Was it? I think December in general. Well, so I just learned this. So there's a ton of construction right now at JFK, but they closed the...

departure area so the arrival and the departure is all one road now so people get picked up and dropped off in the same place that's a nightmare i i was like that's a nightmare when we were driving there i was like laughing i was like haha sucks to be an arrival right now because the traffic was insane and also my uber driver was like just want you know we have to switch to the arrival link the departure is closed this is common i'm like that was karma

Oh, and it was like so backed up. It went really fast. Yeah, and you had a lot of time. But I got upgraded to Delta 1, so that was sick. What's Delta 1? Oh, I saw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The good old. What status are you? I'm Platinum. That's good for upgrades. Yeah, that's the second highest. No, sorry. Yeah, second highest. That's a great segue into your first class with babies.

- I forgot about that. - There it is. I know, I'm like, I have these things written down.

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I don't mind if it's a lap baby. That's what I thought. I.

I was like, what does she want me to do? And then I was like, oh, she means a kid in their own seat. Who's taking it from me. Yes, I got it then. Okay, so explain. So Jordan made this video talking about nothing makes me more mad when I see a kid in first class. I said I low-key hate kids in first class. And I thought, and I thought, let me read these comments. Tell me somebody, because I was going to comment, tater's in first class and she deserves it. And then my girl Jill or somebody had commented it. And I was like, same. But I.

deleted that video because I take back what I said because I had to fly Maine which is is the economy lower than business? Yes. I had to fly economy on the way home from Minnesota because I changed my flight last minute and I was like I take it back I don't want to sit here even if I have kids I want to upgrade. Right.

I hate it here. I hate it here. I don't want to be here. I don't like it. Okay, but this is my thought on it. Because I was sitting on the plane and I said to Harrison, I said, okay, well, I said, this is what she meant. She meant like a kid in it. Kid's taking my upgrade. Like a five-year-old in the seat.

And then he was like, okay. And so we're both sitting there thinking about it. I'm like, well, what's the policy? Cause like she's a lap kid till she's two. So we don't have to think about it. Okay. And I will say flying with her, they're nicer. Like I upgraded my ticket. Well, I'm just going to drain my points flying with her. Yeah. I'm booking everything on my points right now. Cause I want to, I always want to be holding her germs. Like they're nicer when you got the shit everywhere. They bring me the hot water to unthaw the bottles. Like I don't, it's not lost on me that it is a complete luxury, but like, it's just one that I'm choosing right now.

Yeah, as you should. But then I started thinking, okay, well, what about when she's four? So what I decided was, you know, the first row. That's where the kids will sit. In the back. The first row right there. They're not sitting in the front. I don't think you can separate. You can't send your kids back in economy, can you? If you're sitting first class, that's illegal, right? No, you can, I think. Oh, I'll do that then. Or maybe not. If you can do that, I'm doing that. They just, they don't need to be, you can't. I want to tell, I want to explain to them. This is what I want to explain to them.

mom sitting up here because mom worked and mom gets to sit up here. When you can sit up here, you can sit up here. But until then, mom bought you a ticket. It's in the back. I also want to be like, you won't appreciate it if I give it to you. You don't need the meal. You won't. You're not drinking the free wine. Get back there. Because I was on a flight and this kid was sitting first class. Nope. Didn't accept the meal. Nope.

Nope. Drank water. Nope. And played video games. I'm like, that could have been me. You know, you get back there. Mom, your parents can sit up there all day long. Now, it will be tough when they're like three. Yeah. Because they can't be that far away from you. Well, then that's why I was like, I take it back because I sat. It caught on me and I hated it. And they're just like the popcorn. It's all of the whole thing. Last time I came to L.A., there were these two twins who, sorry, one set of twins who were maybe four. They were both in pods and they were directly in front of me.

They were yelling and kicking and crying. And the mom was that mom who was just like disassociated from them, which I don't blame her. She had two twins. But she was like passed out the entire time. And I am like, like the flight attendant had to come by and be like, you guys, it's a 6 a.m. flight. Like, you guys got to be quiet. There's people trying to sleep. And I'm like, get these kids back there.

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But I think what's even worse is when they're running around. When they're growing and they need to get their energy out and they have to run. Yeah. That's when it's going to be tough. Yeah. So I deleted it because I take it back. No, but I do agree with it. But if...

When I one day have kids, I will send them to the back of the plane if I can. Yes. When they have to be. Because they cannot be like 12. Yeah. No. Because I appreciate first class so much more because I never got it when I was a child. Same. I want to make sure that they appreciate it too. But my parents flew back with me. Flew back with you? We all sat in row 29 together. But ours is going to be a little different. Same. Right.

I'll send Pete back there. You stay with the kids. You stay with the kids. Put them on both sides of you. Well, no, it'll be great when they're old enough, like the 13 and 14. Yes. Sit in the back. They're really going to want it. Oh, you can buy the Wi-Fi. There's your present. Yeah. I'll give you an iPad. Yeah. Just don't talk. I was sitting next to this family that the kids were so well behaved and they were like true iPad kids. And I'm like,

This is where I'm like, let your kids be iPad kids. Everyone says like, you're not going to, like right now, if we could not, she doesn't even know what an iPad is. Yeah. But like if you need them to be quiet for a certain amount of time, sorry, that's what you do. They were so well behaved. They didn't make a peep. Yeah. I was like, I like these kids. Yeah, these are good kids. Yeah. These kids I can handle. Oh, I totally get it. What's your rose and thorn of the week? Well, let me look.

yeah sorry so good you don't have anything on our shared notes i know i wrote everything in a different note because i wrote it on my laptop and then i texted it to myself because my notes aren't sunk oh see what i mean like on the plane okay i can remember them though hold on you go first let me think about mine um okay so my thorn automatically just the phone breaking i mean yeah that was wild i didn't even do anything i just like looked at it and i was like oh okay yeah

But it's very liberating. I feel so free. I have no connection to the outer world. Everything's stinging. My rose is coming to L.A. Like, I don't... This isn't a place that I would ever...

Want to spend a lot of time in, but it's so great to be here when it's winter back home. And I really like we're staying in West Hollywood or Beverly Hills. We're like right on the cusp, which I like a lot more than Venice and Santa Monica. Like it's it's cool to be here because you're like this is this is like high end. I love like people watching, seeing the cars. It's fun. Yeah, it's my favorite, too. It's my favorite area. Yeah.

Okay I know I'm gonna update my rose My rose was like Okay so yesterday Jordan and I went And we were listening to The Brits This is the worst record And like we just went And got wine And like we're just chilling And like Jordan has her wine still Is she still carrying her wine? So you walked here With a heavy purse Kind of Yeah But not as heavy As what you went through No My little bowling ball Um

But that's like my new favorite thing about you is your love for wine. So I'm like, I got to bring Alex's bottle. Somebody. So somebody DM'd, somebody asked the question of like, what do you think about mom wine culture or whatever? Which like, I think there are moms who probably drink like a bottle of wine at night. That's not my wine culture. And like, but do your thing moms. That's great if that is yours, you know, but like there are some nights where I'm like, oh, it'd be so great to have like a glass of wine or two and or three. And I,

So I posted I like responded And I was like No do your thing moms And this girl like responded And she was like Totally disagree And I responded back And I was like cool And then she responded back She said I could not disagree more

And I responded, that's okay, exclamation point. Like, great. Then she was like, there are some moms who use it to mask problems and then it spirals into other problems. And I was just like, whoa, let the glass of wine be the glass of wine. Like my girl Morgan Stewart posted the other day. She's like, I'm in a white wine era. And I thought, good for you. No one's like taking life too seriously. How many kids does she have? Two. Two.

Yeah, I say if a glass of wine helps you get by a little bit, reduces the stress, you do you. Do you? And we're not saying it can't function without the bottle, right? You're like, what on earth?

- Give mothers a break, okay? - Yeah, like let her have her glass of wine. I was like, golly. - No, I love that. You're like, I need wine. I was like, say less. - Yeah, I was like, let's just go like have a little happy hour. So then we listened to the rest of the recording with our wine. - Let's talk about story worth because chances are you're spending time with your loved ones at this holidays and you are gonna be hearing a lot of stories. But don't you ever wish you had a way that you could help your loved ones capture those stories, not just for themselves, but for you, your entire family?

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Heavy on the reds. They had like 10 choices of white. And like cases and rows of reds. And then Alex doesn't have a wine opener. So the liquor store guy opened the wine for her, which I think that's illegal. I wonder if it is here because that's opening container. Yeah, but you know in Texas, like you can get to go Mark's. Oh, you can pull up to a parking spot and get to go Margarita's.

Yeah that's true Maybe in LA You can do that I don't know what California's like thing is But they also didn't seem Like they cared Like I feel like At a big liquor store They'd be like Definitely not But this guy was like Gonna either sell us The bottle opener Or open it And like I don't even think I mean he was like 21 right And I was like yeah

Oh yeah, I didn't even look at your ID. No. That's so funny. So they were flying close to the sun, those boys. Yeah, they were. They didn't care. Do you have a thorn? Did you say you're a thorn yet? Yours is your phone. My phone. And you're Rose. Okay. Oh, you know what my thorn is? My thorn is I really feel this like duty to my street. I really love my street in Texas, okay? My neighbors, like I know them all. You know, I got invited to the holiday tour. We're on email with them. And everyone's swapping to Christmas. Christmas.

You know We're changing over The front porches The houses are going To Christmas Lights are going up I got my tree up In a window And you can see it outside Like we did not Swap our porch over So I still have pumpkins outside And like we left town For a week And I feel very bad about that And that's my thorn Like it was driving me crazy I really wanted to like Deck the halls And let them all know I'm with you And we're all gonna Go for Christmas And like I left up fall And I feel bad about that You're the non-aesthetic house On the block I am And I like never thought I never thought I would be

Have you ever watched Desperate Housewives? No. Oh, there's some. One of the housewives, her name is Bree Vandekamp, and she's very particular of how everything looks. And I could just see her coming over being like, do you know the date? It is Christmas time. Yeah, no, I would welcome that. If she had the audacity, I'd be like, I know, Bree. I wanted to do better than this.

I will say I miss that so much. Just being in a neighborhood with lights and Christmas decorations. Not gaudy ones. I hate like blow up things. Yes. Yes. The like Santa. Yes. It's like, I just wanted to put some cute trees out and some lights up. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't get there, but I'm going to get there. I'm going to do it right when I get home and it's the first thing. Did you do a real or fake Christmas tree? I do fake because real starts to bother my allergies.

Yeah, and I feel like it's so messy. All the little pines or... Are they pines? Yeah, or whatever. Fall everywhere. You have to vacuum every day. No, you really, truly do. And you have to water it. Yeah. If you had an animal, it would eat and throw up.

ew yeah our cats growing up they would like used to eat the pines that fell and then they would like throw up because like you can't eat dried up pine needles pine needles that's there yeah that yeah it's not good are you a fake you're a fake tree or yeah i grew up with fake tree i think real trees look so beautiful but they're so messy and then when you take them out of the house i remember i mean it gets everywhere yeah that's the thing too like i have a pre-lit tree

It's great. The lights were already on it. Oh, that's incredible. I just like, I mean, it still took hours to put up, but like it was so much easier. I want a tree. Get a mini tree. We don't really have space. We also aren't really going to be around. We're going to like, I'm going to be in New York for like,

15 days before Christmas. Yeah, it's like not worth it. Plus, New York is so decorated. Yeah. Itself, you get the holiday spirit. Because we had Thanksgiving. Literally, it's December now. And then I have 15 days when I get back and then I go to Florida. Yeah. So it's like, why bother? How was your Thanksgiving?

My Thanksgiving was fabulous. Because it was just you and Harrison? Yes, me, Harrison, and Tate. Oh, and Tate, of course. People keep saying, was it just you two? And I keep saying, it was three of us. We have a third. That's why we stayed home. We wanted to stay home and start our own traditions. I love that. And the turkey trot, I loved the turkey trot. Highlight of my day. Really? I loved it.

I kept looking at him being like, this is awesome. There were so many people. Everyone was in such a cheerful mood. It's cool because where we live, we walked the turkey trot. So we got up. We had breakfast, made coffee, walked to the turkey trot. Everyone, you're just like, hi, waving. Everyone was walking to the turkey trot as well. So it was like all of Austin was so walkable. We only did the one mile. It was jam-packed, but it was so much fun, so many kids. And then we walked home. I love that. It was like...

And so it was three miles total because like walking there. But you kind of got your like your workout in. You earned your meal. Yeah. And then be like cooked all day, listen to music, like had mimosas. Also too, it's warm in Austin. I always forget about that. Yeah. Yeah. Like I wore a sweatsuit, but like I was great in that. Yeah. Like in Minnesota, the turkey shot was like 10 degrees. That's like when it's miserable. Yeah. Yeah. It's very pleasant there. And a lot of people do it. It's the most wonderful time of the year. Holidays on Thursdays.

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I'm trying to keep my head above water. I don't blame you. You know, I'm like, but I love my little baby girl. But no, we didn't get to. She's so cute. I did go, though, like I did meet up with the neighbors like seven times. That's good. We keep hanging out with them. They're great. Yeah, we just like roll up together and like we'll just hang. I love that you have neighbors that you're friends with. Oh, my God. This is what I typed down. I typed down Austin friends. Yes, you did. Yes. That actually is in the notes. Did I write that somewhere? Okay, that sparks it. Austin friends and kids in first class.

And you also have Biden pardon his son. Oh, did you see that? No, I didn't. Okay, well, we'll go. So Biden, the president, which is so funny. You know how he didn't run for president because people are like, he's not fit to be a president? I always laughed at that, being like, well, he's still the actual president right now. We kept forgetting that he was currently serving. He's not fit. But he is the guy right now. He's the president. Yeah.

Anyways, he said he kept saying he wasn't going to pardon his son. What does that mean? Like his son had felt like a felony counts against him, like criminal charges. Oh. And he pardoned him. Like he got rid of them because the president can pardon anyone. And he kept saying he wasn't going to pardon him. And then he did it. And I, listen, I thought, who would it? Who would it? Right? Yeah. If he didn't kill anyone, like why wouldn't you? Yeah. Yeah. So he pardoned him. And I just thought that I just kept seeing that everywhere. So I typed it down because I was reading about it.

Wait, what about your Austin friends though? Okay, so like I have these like three and I'm in a group text with them and I like love them. Fine. Yeah, so it was my neighbor and then she one night was like come to dinner with like me and these two girls. And I was like, it's hard right now because to show up and like meet new people, but my neighbor's in the same stage as I like I am, right? We're both like tired and like newborn land. Yes. So I thought, okay, if we're both together, like I'll go.

I was like roll over there and these two friends they're like they're like you with when you have a baby some people like don't get it some people are like let me help you and it's like so much easier these two friends were like holding the babies like they totally got it and they were so easy to be around and like we had the most we had a great dinner like a lot of fun like walked all around and then went back to our house and like the boys came Harrison and then the neighbor's husband and like the babies and like we just had a blast and then like I

I keep, like, we're in a group text and hanging out and talking and so, like, I, like, love them. I actually really love hanging out with new moms. It's so low-key. It's so low-key. It's, like, low-key yet they really want to have fun. But, like, in their sweatpants. No, literally. Like, drink wine but then, like, be home in bed by, like, seven. Yeah. They're, like, exhausted but, like, they want to, yeah, do the whole thing. I love that you're making neighborhood friends. Yes. And, like, I loved...

I was so nervous about meeting her friends and then having to have this exhausting conversation. They were the easiest people on the planet. It was the most fun I've had in a very long... They were so fun. Were the other two married? Just no kids? No, single, which was really funny. Oh, yeah. We were talking all about that. That's fun. It was so fun. But they're single, but...

Not single, like out to lunch single. Do you know what I mean? They were like the type of... This might be more of an Austin thing in general. But they were like... You know how sometimes like single people, I guess, only want to meet guys? Yes. They have like... They love their jobs. They have so much going on. They were like laughing. They're like all these... But like it was so an afterthought. But like still a topic. But not like the whole world. Yeah. So it was great. That's fun. I loved them. Yeah. So my Austin friends, they're... It's...

I thought that the friends would be on the back burner for a while because obviously baby with the exception of the neighbors in the same phase of life. But now I'm like, okay, I love these girls. Yeah. I feel like Austin's very inclusive. Very much so. That's nice. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Okay. How was your Thanksgiving? Now you go. My Thanksgiving was good. Do you remember last year how I slept in the same room as my grandma? Yes. In the twin bed? Yes. Yes. Did that again. Yes. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Yep. Worst night sleeps of my life. I'm sure. I made a TikTok about it. But I, the first night, she wakes me up at 4 a.m. She's like, Jordan, there's a knock at the door. And I'm like, no, there's not. Well, first of all, she was like, Jordan, are you awake? I am now. I literally was like, I am now, Grandma. Yeah.

And she's like, there's a knock at the door. And I'm like, no, there's not. Because Elroy and my brother are sleeping in the living room. Elroy would freak out. He's my parents' dog. Like, if you were to knock, freak out. And my brother also would be like, what the heck? Right. So I was like, no, go back to bed. I love you, but please go back to bed. Second night, like, sleeping around, like, 3 o'clock, she –

wakes me up because she's talking in her sleep and she's like yelling I hate you god damn it like I don't know she doesn't have a southern accent I don't know yeah it's not how she sounded at all but she like yelled that woke up to that third night and

I wake up because she's at the foot of my bed trying to figure out where my noise machine is to turn it off because apparently that bothers her. I'm like, how can you hear that? Like, it's the noise machine that tate. You barely can hear it. And then a few, like a few hours later, she wakes me up again because she's whispering in her sleep. She's like, I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. What? And I'm like, I need to go home. Oh.

Why is she having all these dreams about, like, hate? I don't know. I was like, Grandma, who do you hate? And she's like, everyone. No.

Like, I love her to death, but I told my mom, I was like, I think we need to change where Thanksgiving is. Yeah. I can't do this anymore. I was like, I got a total of six hours of sleep within three days. You're just like, I can't wait. Where do your parents sleep? They sleep. So my grandma lives in a two bedroom. So they sleep in a bedroom. I sleep in the bedroom with my grandma and my brother sleeps in the living room. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Oh my gosh. With Elroy. And then when he leaves, I used to sleep out in the living room, but I was like, I'm not going to sleep on air mattress.

I was like, I'll just suffer. Yeah, don't blame me. You're like, I'll just stay through. So your grandma gives her room to your parents, basically. No, she sleeps in the room with a twin bed. She prefers a twin bed. Why? I don't know. She's always been that way ever since my... Actually, I don't think my grandpa and her shared a room for a long time. Oh. I think she just...

That's what she's used to. Yeah. I don't know how, but yeah, she prefers it. Okay. Well, more power to her. Yeah. Other than that, it was good. I went wedding dress shopping with Madeline. That was such a fun experience to see because I've never gone to a wedding dress shopping with a bride before. Yeah. Did she cry on the first one? No, no one cried. Oh, okay. I thought we all were going to cry, but none of us were. Okay. This was the first time she tried on a dress? At a store. She bought a dress once.

Online. And she charged it on. Oh, like, okay. I ordered one. Yeah. Yeah. But it was such a fun experience because they give you champagne.

And like they treat you like royalty. And like obviously seeing her try on dresses was so surreal. You're like, oh my God, you're getting married. Yeah. Like you see her as a bride. Yeah. So fun. And she hasn't picked the one yet, but I'm really excited for when she does. Is she going to show you? Yeah. When she does? Aw. Yeah. I'm very excited for her. Oh, her box to you. Like was it painted on champagne? Yeah. It was LaMarca Prosecco and it was painted her and her boyfriend Wyatt's or fiancee.

Fiancé, fiancé. Fiancé, fiancé. Their initials with some flowers. Yeah, it was really cute. Yeah, they got it handmade or hand-painted. I loved that. And then with like a card and then they had like a Polaroid that was a magnet. Oh, that's cute. Yeah, it was a super, super cute box. Oh, I love that. Yeah, I thought that champagne bottle was like beautiful. It was. And I was like, this is my favorite Prosecco too. Yeah, you're like, oh, yay. But I almost want to just like not to ever touch it and just like keep it. Keepsake. Yeah. Yeah, those bottles are pretty when they're painted on. But it's crazy because it's like...

i had friends get married when i was younger like early 20s because i went to school north dakota and like a lot of people are just married married early on there but now having people get married when you're a little bit older and have money it's like so much more fun because like i can buy her cool gifts like she's doing a little bit like

I mean, my college friends, I think a lot of times it was lower budget. So like she can do cool things and stuff. So it's just like fun. It's so much more fun. And like traveling is not such like a burden. Yeah. You know what I mean? You can do. Where's our bachelorette party? Do we know? Yeah, it's going to be in. Seaside? Yes. Do you tell me that? Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's right. I remember. Yeah. Oh, it's going to be so. The whole wedding season for her will be so fun for you. I'm so excited. Dress shopping is fun. I forget they give you champagne. Yeah. Oh my God. And it's all free. Yeah. It's great. Oh yeah. They're like, bye.

dress please I literally was like so do you have to like pay the scheduled appointment they're like no and the champagne is free it's amazing I'm like this is awesome it's great I guess it's the least they can do they sell one dress that day yeah that's true just one yeah it's actually shocking how expensive dresses are

Truly. It's wild. Wild. But other than that, it was great. And then from there, I pretty much came here because Thanksgiving was so late this year. I know. I liked it being late. Kind of. Actually, no, I don't. I wanted to be one week earlier. Same, because now when this episode comes out, it's December 9th. Yeah, things ran too close together. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I don't like it. When's the first day of Hanukkah? Christmas, which is never. That's very rare. It goes into January this year? Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. That seems illegal. It's like, that's what we think. It's like a moving date. I think we think the Hanukkah needs to be a fixed date. It definitely needs to be in December at least. Yeah. And it needs to be like the, they should do it before Christmas and it like leads up. There's like a couple of days in between. I think that'd be really fun.

I mean, I also feel bad for all the kids who celebrate both because it's going to be like within one week now. I know. Oh, it sucks. Yeah. She's a little girl that celebrates both. I know. You really hit all the holidays with her in the beginning. Yeah. I know. Oh, my God. I can't believe how much she's grown. I keep telling you that, but it's like crazy. I know. I saw her three... Were you in New York three weeks ago? Four weeks ago? Yeah. Three...

After Halloween. So four. Yeah. She looks so grown up. I know. She's a teenager, basically. She is. It's terrible. Question for you. When you were pregnant, did your sense of smell heighten a ton? Yes. Was it unbearable? Yeah. I mean, there were things I'd be like, I could smell instantly. And Harrison would be like, no way. How could you smell that? And I'd be like, oh, yeah. So that's a fear of mine. Because...

I think traveling, I just like am more aware of it because Uber drivers, their cars are so scented. Smells are crazy to me. Like they give me like instant headaches. I want to like throw up sometimes. Like I could never go into Le Lapo. I think like overall it's a good smell, but it's so much in that store where I'm like, when I have a kid one day, I'm going to die. Yeah.

Like is there poop? No because my smell is going to be so heightened. Oh like when you're pregnant? Yeah when I'm pregnant. Okay I was going to say no it's funny because it's funny we think her diapers smell good it's weird. You think her poop smells good? Like not not not good but like not bad.

I'm dead. Yeah, because I think that's just like you love your baby so much. But I stopped Ubering when I was pregnant towards the end. Like I just was like, I'll walk, I'll drive, or I'll stay home. Oh my God, my Uber to the airport, or sorry, to the hotel. Thank you, but it makes me want to throw up. It was his cologne. I mean, it was like good smelling things, but it was just too much. And then too much of the car freshener. I was like, I can't. Oh, it's too intense. Yeah. Does Harrison think that Tate smells good? Like the baby smell? Yes. Did you see...

Pookie and Jets TikTok where Jet was like smelling the baby and he's like I mean she smells good but Pookie thinks she smells like the best thing in the world. He's just like so goofy. He's so goofy. I love to reference this podcast but Jennifer Welch is in Pumps' podcast. She was on it? No. They had Jared Freed on. Oh. And it was like point of view you're Pookie and Jet's bulldog. So it was like the point of view of the dog and Jared was like

saying what the dog would say and he wait I watched it last night I was like laughing I can't remember any of it for some reason I watched it like did I watch it this morning I'm having memory loss but he was like narrating their life and he was like he's always being really nice to her she doesn't really seem to care but like she does care and like I love Pookie and Jet like so much but it was really funny like the point of view of the dog Pookie is fine she doesn't say much Jet I mean this guy he fucked a Birkin bag haha

I have to watch that every night. They let me sleep on the bed. I don't want to sleep on the bed. You know, one night Pookie pulled me aside and was like, what do you think of Jet? And I was like, can I tell you the truth? I think it's a little weird that he only compliments you and gives you no, you know, I could give you a few things that you should improve. If you don't dress your age, I think you need to like reign it in a little bit. He doesn't go down on you at all. He's that complimentary and he won't go down on you.

Hand stuff isn't enough, Pookie. His wrists are flimsy. I feel how he holds onto the leash. Okay? Yeah.

He is just – I would love to meet him in real life just to see what he's like. Who would you rather meet, Jet or Pookie? I think Jet. Really? Who would you rather meet? Jet. Because Pookie, I'm – like, she just looks – or just seems like a very nice, normal person. Chill. Jet's just, like, a goofball. Yeah. And I just want to meet him. He got a little spice to him. Yeah. Yeah, he's funny, too. Like, he's, like, the funniest guy in the room that doesn't know he's funny. Yeah.

And he like really gets into the TikToks. He's like trying. He's trying. I love that. I do too. And I love when he does like his thank you TikToks because he's so detailed with his thank you. You just know that's like a genuine man. I remember I saw early on somebody like when they were first starting to take off, somebody posted them and was like, internet, like this is a couple that deserves to be preserved. Do not go be mean to them. Yes. They're just truly like so sweet. And I love them too because...

She's been doing this for a long time. Yeah. She deserves it. She's been hustling for years. And didn't she like quit her job like five years ago and was like, I want to do content full time? I think so, yeah. That's a really cool story. I love that. Like she's not someone who got the overnight instant success like she has been posting for I think, I mean, I'll say like seven years maybe. That's why they're so good at it. Yeah. You know, like their lighting is always good. It looks really good. Yeah. I mean, also they're rich too, so they have a lot of resources. Yeah.

I always like stare at her jewelry and I'm like, wow, you're wearing like 15 grand on your neck. Yeah, it's beautiful. She's so beautiful. She's beautiful. Oh my gosh. Her eyes. Did you see the TikTok when she was doing a full beat before she gave birth? Yes. And I was like, I'm surprised you didn't get a makeup artist. She's like, I thought about it. I almost did. I love that you just like lean into it too. I thought about it. They're so honest, but then it made me laugh because I was...

Thinking about you And I'm like I can't even imagine I was like dying Dying She probably just like Sneezed and the baby popped out I was like throwing up Yeah like I was like choo Baby What's the baby's name Paloma Yes Paloma For them I love that name Love it I think it's so cute Love it Paloma Adorable

I don't think that Pete and I are going to agree on names for children. Really? Yeah. Why? Because I'll like throw in some names every once in a while. Not that we're having children anytime soon. It's just like, like honestly with you having a baby just makes you start to think about things. You think about names all the time. Yeah. And he just doesn't really like any of mine.

Wow. Can you throw one out? I was like, so my middle name is May. So I was like, May would be a really cute name. Love it. And only because it's my middle name. Like, I would never think otherwise. And he was like, no way. I was like, that's my middle name. He was like, I don't care. No, I like May a lot. I do too. I was like, but that would be so cute. Like a little girl. Her name's May. Yeah. What's her name? May. That's adorable. Yeah. And I would do M-A-Y. I wouldn't do M-A-E. Yeah. And he was just like, no. Is May a...

Family name? Wasn't it a grandma or something? It is my, I think it's my great-grandma's middle name. Yeah. It was something. I remember you said it was family. See, I think that's cool. I just made that up. Oh. It is family. I think someone. It had to be probably, right? Yeah, I think it is my great-grandma's because my brother's middle name is my great-grandpa's. Which is what? Branch. Ooh, I love that. I love that. Really? I love that. Most people laugh. No, I love it. Colton Branch. I love it.

I think it's gonna be a good first name too. I can picture you naming your kid middle name like that. Yeah, Branch. But then I was like, oh, what about like Lewis for a boy? Because I think Louie is so cute. He's like, no. What is he like? What is Pete throwing into the hat? I know. I'm like, you pick then. Yeah. What is he like? Did he give you one?

If he did, I can't remember. So they must not have been good either. They were just... Yeah. Darn. I know. Well, keep... Maybe... I had a friend who, like, in high school had a list on her... Like, a note on her phone of, like, baby names she liked. I wonder... I should text her and ask if she ever used any of them. Like, I feel like when you know, you'll know kind of thing. Yeah. Like, I'm really glad you picked Tate versus Riley. Yeah, I know. I kept... Me too. Me too. I really was close on it. And I just know, like...

Because I don't really look like anything at the beginning. You know, like I was like, you don't look like a Tate. But now she looks just like a Tate. Oh my gosh, she looks just like a Tate. Yeah, and she doesn't look like a Riley. So it's like, just stick to it. I also love that her name is Tate and it's not like Tatum or anything. It's just like Tate. Me too. I was glad. I'm glad about that. Yeah. Happy with the way. It's so cute. Yeah. She's such a cutie. She's sleeping. I'm very proud of her. She is. Yeah, she fell asleep. I could just stare at her all day. I know. She smiles now. It's nice when she like notices now. Yeah. You know, like when you first met her.

we were still too little but now we can like do the little gummy smiles i know this is wild you have a child i know i always think about that me too i i think about sometimes how like even dinner tonight you know like yes like yeah like yesterday harrison like needed to go dinner we were running late and it's like it used to just be like as simple as we're gonna be late getting back yeah

And he... Now it's like if we were just two people, he would have just gone to dinner and we would have just been late getting back. It's like, no, we have to hand off this child. Yeah. And so it's like we have to leave. That was such a cute handoff yesterday. He just like had her strapped to him. He just had her on. But it's like you got... Like everything is... Takes so much more... Yeah. I mean, it's just...

Not just you anymore. I feel like that is such a rewarding feeling, like knowing that there's something out there that needs you to survive. My mom told me this. Every baby comes into the world looking for somebody looking for them. Do you not want to cry? Oh, that just gave me chills. Yeah. And it's so true. Like the reason that I bring her everywhere right now is like I don't want to miss her.

Like I couldn't miss a day because she'll grow. Yeah. Like these times right now are like so sweet and she's so little that I'm just like she's coming. Oh my God. I wish I could remember this quote. This isn't sweet at all. It's like scientific. I'm reading this book about a killer and a psychologist made a quote where it was like there's no such thing as a baby. They're just people without – I can't remember what the quote was but it was something about how they already have their personality formed –

before but like they were saying it more in like a scary way of like if the baby's gonna be a serial killer it's like kind of has that like in it oh it's like nothing you did yeah well I I can't I don't know if they were going against nature or no sorry I don't know if they were going against nurture more believed nature I can't remember what it was but I like read and I was like whoa oh that's fascinating yeah what's the book silent patient I wonder what it was I've just all um is that fiction

Yes. It's a thriller. It's about a girl who killed her husband and she's been silent for seven years since the killing. And it's about this psychiatrist who goes and tries to treat her to see if he can learn anything about her. That's as far as I've gotten. Whoa. Yeah. But at the beginning, it's a little scientific. It talks about people's psychology and what's going on and stuff. And that was one of it.

We're not, because I always think about that, like, nature versus nurture, which I'm, like, a big proponent of nurture. If my, wait, what do you mean nurture? Like, are people the way they are because they were born that way or because, like, their nurturing forced them to be that way? And you think their nurturing forces them to be that way? Yeah, I think, like, it's, I think it's, like, a 70-30. Like, I think 30% of them are, like, born a certain way, but I think, like, your parents definitely...

like, dictate, like, how you're going to be. I think no question. Yeah. I think you always look at people and then if you backtrack to a certain extent, I think more primarily, like, in high school. But I think truly people were, like, a product of their environment for the most part. Oh, my God, yeah. I would love to...

seen an experiment with identical twins. And if one twin was in a very, I mean, I don't want to see this because it would be really sad, but in a really hostile environment and the other was in a very nurturing environment to see the type of person they would become. But then again, I think about my brother and me, we were in the same environment and he was a little shit up until 24. And I was a pretty good kid. And we were in a similar environment.

But don't you think now you're both pretty like the same? Now he's – we're not the same. But like you know what I mean? Like you're both like no one's so far one way or the other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Similarly like if you were at the same table, would you get along? Yes. Oh my god, yeah. Like in that regard. Yeah. I think that's – like I think if you shoved a baby in the corner and never fed them and

And they cried a lot from zero to five while their brain developed. I think that would have some long-term effect, no question. Oh, my God, yeah. But is that nurture or is that nature? That's nurture. That's nurture. Okay. Nature is...

DNA and chemicals, all that stuff. You can't expect that baby then to not be like angry or sad, you know, like feel abandoned, have abandonment issues, like all of those things. Yeah. Because in the book, the psychologist, he's okay now, but he grew up in a very hostile environment. And even when he was away from his environment, he said that

he was like his dad was abusive, like emotionally abusive and cost him like so much anxiety and depression. But when he left for school, he still was experiencing that depression, anxiety because he just like that's like all he knew. So the older he got, like he started going to like therapy and like work through it. Now he's better. But like he was like that was purely because of the nurturing, like what I was around. It's like followed me.

Yeah. So. No, it's really true. Like if you're afraid to go home, you know, because your parents are always fighting or something. It's like another level of pressure. Yeah. Raising a baby too. You're like, I don't, you don't want to do anything. Like it's so not about you anymore. Right. You know, it's like all hands on deck. And I love to like, I'll read some stuff too sometimes of like, even when she's crying for while I'm heating up her bottle.

I'll like look up like what is what does that feel like to her and to her it's like the quicker you tend to her the more she like trusts you and so it's just like you know you just learn those things and you just think whoa oh my god yeah I know it's I like look forward to raising a child with

a brain that like went through therapy. Oh my gosh. That's such a powerful statement. You know what I mean? Yes. Because not that I don't blame my parents at all because like therapy just wasn't a thing. Totally. No one went to therapy when they were my age but I think about all the things that like trigger me and I'm like oh I won't do that.

We're going to trigger them in some way. Yeah. It'll be, the pendulum will swing a different way. You know what I mean? Like we'll do, I don't know what I'll do, but I'll overcorrect somewhere. But I always think about like, like the mom diets of like, they would, they like would purposely not eat in front, like they made it clear that they weren't eating. Like, cause that was just like so common. All moms did that. Totally. And like how that shapes us growing up. Oh, I was thinking about it the other day. I was like,

Oh my God, do I need, like every meal will be eaten. Yes. I'll go high protein, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like I'll probably cook pretty healthy, but like will we all, we will all sit down and we will eat. Isn't it crazy? Like did your mom eat with you guys? Yeah. She was always up walking around. My mom like didn't eat. Really? Not that I can remember if she did, she would eat.

I feel like maybe just like a salad or she was always moving. Really? Yeah. My mom did a very good job of this. She just ate. She ate every meal and they were very healthy. Okay. But isn't that just weird how like I like that was when I was 12. I vividly remember that. But at the time you probably didn't think anything of it. No, because all moms were like that. Like I would go over to my friend's house for dinner and their moms wouldn't eat either. Right. It's so weird.

To think about. That's so funny though. But yeah, of course like... Did you grow up eating every meal sitting down at the table? Yes, we had family dinners every single night. That was like very... Like that was something that like my parents like forced upon us. I loved that. Yeah, I'm very grateful for that. Yeah, the family dinners I think are a really cool thing. My parents always made me drink milk too, which is so gross. Why is that gross? What do you mean? Think about like drinking like...

A glass of milk? Ew, yeah. I mean, I can't imagine, but like... Like, my parents were like, you gotta finish your milk before you, like, leave the dinner table. Okay, are you gonna make your kids finish their meals, though? Um...

I guess if they want dessert, but I don't want to like force a kid to eat if they're not hungry. That's my thing is I'm like, I'm like, who started all these rules of like, you can't get it from the table till your plate's full. It's like, well, what if they're full? Right? Like, I don't know how I got to like look up. I got to look up all this stuff. Like, is it good to make them finish their meal? Or like, is it good to just pick? Are you healthy and full? Yeah. And like, just know if you don't finish, you're not going to get candy. Right. Right.

Yeah, I don't know. Because my brother and I grew up with, like, very large appetites. So that was never an issue for us. But, like, I guess, like, the biggest issue was, like, I just didn't want to eat the chicken. And I just wanted more, like... Mashed potatoes. Yeah. And my brother was like, I don't want greens. I just want, like, the chicken. Yeah. I don't remember. All I remember wondering was how could my mom make these recipes? Right. I remember just being like, you just whipped up, like, some...

Five star meal And I'm like What am I gonna make These kids I guess I better Figure it out Does Harrison cook Or are you the cooker Yeah he'll be the cooker Right Yeah What about you guys Pete for sure Will your kids be gluten free

No, because I don't want them to – if they're not – if they don't get born with that celiac gene, I don't want to get triggered. Their intolerance to get triggered. Because you know how, like, sometimes if you just, like, don't eat dairy for, like, a year, you could get, like, lactose intolerant? Yeah. I don't want – I want them to, like, get used to all of it so they don't have to be – So gluten. Because it's, like, hard to be celiac. So, like – Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. So gluten right out of the gates. And I hope that they're not. And if they are, it's, like, Pete's kind where –

um he doesn't necessarily get like the full-on side effects like he's not like someone with they get celiac they'll be like throwing up all night right he's just like i feel really like uncomfortable and bloated and like it affects his digestion right um and like long-term effects like you can get polyps and stuff so it's not good for you if you're celiac but his sister will get like nauseous i'm like i'm so glad you're not like that oh that's see that's too bad yeah and i hope our kids aren't like that

His wasn't genetic, though. His parents don't have it. Like, they don't know how they got it. Okay, that's good. So I hope not. Yeah. It's not good. I hope not, too. I know. I hope she's not lactose intolerant, but I guess we'll see. Harrison's not, is he? No. He probably can eat anything. Yeah, he can. He doesn't have any of, like, the things. I bet he doesn't. I don't think he believes in the things. It's because he's Canadian. Yeah. He's like, you're not lactose intolerant. I'm like, yes. Yes, I am. Can Canadians, do they have gluten-free and lactose intolerant stuff?

Did it cross the border? I don't think it did. No, I think it's probably like our food system, honestly, only. No, I think so too because I don't think people are gluten-free and lactose intolerant in Europe. They definitely are not. Well, I can't have dairy in Europe. I thought I could. But like because things are pasteurized differently. Like their bread is objectively better. Can Pete have bread over there? He's never been to Europe. I don't know. What? I know. Is that crazy? Did I know that? Where would he go?

What? Where would he go if he could go? He really wants to go to Portugal. Is that Europe? Yeah. Yep. He wants to go to Portugal, Spain. Okay. Obviously like Italy and stuff. I want to go to Paris with him. Yeah. How like you have explained it. I'm like, that sounds so romantic. Are you guys going to go?

I don't know. I think our first big trip will be New Zealand. Yeah. That's where I want to go. That'll be a blast for you. The wine. Yeah. The wine. Apparently it's beautiful. When you went to Australia, you didn't go to New Zealand. No, it's my biggest regret. Yeah. Well, you'll go again. Yeah. Because it's a five-hour flight from Australia, but it's a 20 million hour flight from America. Yeah. What is it? Actually 23 or 24? I think...

Think so, because I would imagine how it would go living in New York would be like LAX to Sydney to New Zealand. Yeah. Okay. So you come this way. Yeah. Because when I lived in Minnesota, it was LAX. And then my stop was Australia. But a lot of people on the plane were going to New Zealand. So...

They were getting off and getting on another flight and going five more hours. I don't think it is a 20 hour flight from Australia or 18. Australia, I think is 16 or 18. But my experience, our flight was delayed on the tarmac for like four hours. So I was I was on there for I felt like 24 hours. Your body just like.

The older I get, I was thinking about this. Like my face was so swollen yesterday morning. But I was like, I didn't eat like that bad. Like this is like, it's seeming like I had fried chicken all day. But I just was like, I just, it's, we, we flew.

We simply flew. We flew. That's what it is. And it just like takes this toll on your body. Mine is, if I don't get sleep, I get really puffy. And flying too. But like I noticed like when I was home for Thanksgiving, the no sleeping, my face gets so much more. It's not necessarily like puffy. It gets so round. Yes, I know. I don't get that. Mine gets round too. Because I was like...

22 when I went to Australia so I bounced back like that. Oh, you didn't even fly. You were like, fine. Don't even need to sleep. You don't even need to sleep. Like, I'm with a guy next. So I was in an aisle and then there was a girl in the middle and then a guy on the window. He did not get up once.

I feel like you've told me this. I think I have because I still am mind blown by it. I don't get it. I do not get it. You're kidding me. 20 hours. Not getting up one time. Not even to stretch your legs. Not to pee. It's like you have a catheter. He must have been so dehydrated. Also, I can't imagine how dangerous that is. You need to move your legs. Yeah, your circulation. You can get blood clots. Actually. Yeah. Yeah.

i still think about it to this day i would think that all the time that would live rent free in my head and let's be very clear i got up a lot so it's not like he never felt like he could i went to the bathroom like 20 times the girl next to me got up a lot too because she would get up like when i got up so like he had the time right i also am never going to be someone who's like you can't get up no get up please like i because then you get to stand up right you know like speaking of things that live rent free in your head

Oh, I need to read this meme. I have this like meme that has lived rent free in my head for like three weeks. I can't get it.

her eyes are like kind of open. Oh, do you want to? Oh, no, can't get it on your phone either. But it's like, it's like this husband and wife and they're in the car driving and it's the husband and he's like, before I met my wife, I used to crash into the back of cars because I didn't know how to brake without her screaming. Like, you know how you're always like, stop! And they're like, I can drive. That's me. It's me. Oh, and Harrison sent it to me because I'll be like, brake! And he's like, no shit. I'll be like, oh my god! He's like, you doing that

That's going to cause me to act in an accident. Exactly. And like, do you think I didn't survive since I was 16 driving in a car? Like now that I know you? Pete always has to be like, Jordan, before you, I was a single independent man for five, six years. I remember how to live. Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. That's so funny. Obviously, he's like, I know how to drive. And I'm like, why do I think that you don't? Right? Right.

I always forget that boys don't want to do a lot of things. Yeah. It's so funny. I'm like, why am I down dog? Down dog. No, literally. I'll feel like, don't say a thing. Do you want to do a listener question? Yeah. I'm going to have to have your laptop, though. That's okay. Okay. It's so much work. I think this is more of like a conversation than a listener question. It's really interesting. Yeah. This one is interesting. Okay. I changed it this morning. Oh, that is not what I read. Okay. All right.

- Oh, okay, listener question. What are your thoughts on changing your last name when getting married?

What do you each plan to do? It seems like now we live in a modern age where women changing her last name shouldn't be the exception anymore. However, there's also something to be said for having a shared family name. I am currently in a relationship headed for marriage and struggling to decide what I want to do. I have a career that benefits from name recognition, so changing it would have career impacts. However, I also see the benefits of sharing a last name with my future children. Would love to hear your perspectives.

i love this question great great question i've thought about this a lot okay and um so the way i think i will do it is i'll probably hyphen mine like jordan woodruff dash um fan and but like keep my like socials and stuff just jordan woodruff because it's just that's how it'll be legally or would it be yeah would you're a fan but kids just saying yeah

I like that. But if I only because of our job. Right. Like, you know, you know how much work it is to change a handle? Oh, yes. There's no handles out there anymore. No. Like, I'm lucky I even have Jordan Woodruff. You're very lucky. You're very lucky you have it. Is Jordan Bain available? I don't know. I've never looked, actually. Really? But I also just like...

Jordan Woodruff is just like a I like it I mean and you're just Jordan Woodruff right like it's just I yeah I totally agree with that um what are you gonna do well I want to have the same last name as her yes because she's uh Fugman yeah so I yeah she's just Fugman and that was my choice was for her to be that because I knew eventually I would be that and um so yeah I'm just gonna do that are you so is your middle name still Hodges so it'd be Alex Hodges Fugman yeah

Will you change your socials? Oh, no, your social is just Alex. No, it's just Alex Bennett. It's a whole thing. I'm trying to get just Alex from this guy in like Europe who keeps charging me crypto. And I keep saying, fine, I'll pay you the crypto. I will pay you the crypto. And then he doesn't respond. I've emailed him a million times. He has the handle just Alex because like the last name is the whole thing right now. So like I just want just Alex. But just Alex pod.

That's your podcast handle, right? Yeah. Could you do like just Alex exclamation mark? No, because you can't do exclamation marks and I can't get just Alex with two Xs. I can't get three Xs. Yeah. I know. That's frustrating. Very. Like what do I? Oh, is Alex Fugman a handle? I just hope I haven't looked. I know. I never even thought about looking. I'm sure it is. I don't know a lot of Fugmans. I wonder. I'm sure just Alex Fugman is a thing too. Probably available. Yeah. I just preemptively do it. Yeah.

I just grab it. I can totally see that. I like think about like there's no other word you can put on the end of Alex. Yeah. Like I can't be Alexa. No. No. Don't do that please. Yeah. And like the dream would have been two exes but they're it's taken. That's so stupid. I guess too now that I think about it once I have a kid I could totally change my mind.

Like, I could totally just want to be Fae-an. Yeah, but I think it's like the hyphen's cool too, as long as like you have some component that matches. Yeah. I just, and I could just like just not change my handle. Yeah. Yeah. Not to always take it back to my girl Morgan Stewart, but she did. What did she do? She's still Morgan Stewart, which is like her maiden name. Yeah. But now her bio just says Morgan Stewart McGraw. Or maybe Morgan McGraw. Okay, so she did hyphen. No, she didn't hyphen. She just...

Her middle name, I think, is now Stuart. Oh, okay. So I could do that too, I guess. Jordan Woodruff. But Mae is cute too. I know. That's what I wanted to give it to my future daughter. Yeah. But somebody doesn't like it. It's a great name. I think you might change his mind. I think it's so cute. Yeah. And then I wanted the middle name to be Marie because that's my mom's little name, Mae Marie. Mae Marie is really cute. Thank you. Wow. And he shot that down. Mae Marie is really cute. Thank you. Yeah. I'm definitely for that. MMF.

I know. And I like was really proud of it. I was like, okay. I was like, I have a name. And he was like ready for it. He's like, no.

It's like adorable I know And it's like not common Also he doesn't actually Get a say Yeah Exactly Maymarie Yeah That's cute But yeah So I guess we didn't Really answer your question But I think I think you should do Whatever you feel like doing With the last name Yeah I think that you get to pick Yeah I will say like There is a component with kids That you do want to have The last name as them Yeah I do I feel personally I get that Um

But also we understand with like business and things like with the name recognition if it's online or something like keeping what you started with. But also people can like who's who's somebody that got married that we've changed their name. That's famous. Yeah. Like who who changed their name. Well Haley Beaver. Oh yeah. She might be the only person. But I don't really know who she like Haley Baldwin was never a name for me. See it was Sophia Richie Grain or whatever. I now I know there's the G coming.

So is her middle name, is it going to be hyphenated? No, but Grange or whatever, Sophia Grange, Sophia Richie Grange. Right, Sophia Richie, didn't she get married? She did, but I'm trying to think if Richie's going to change to her middle name or if she's going to hyphen. But what, didn't she, she's, Kim Kardashian West, I was happy to pick the West up.

At the time. I'm trying to think of people who like have fully removed their last name though. And Hailey Bieber is the only person I can think of. But I didn't know Hailey as Hailey Baldwin. Oh, sorry. We're going to have a little visitor. But yeah, I didn't. And then let's think. Who's been married? Kourtney Barker or is she Kardashian Barker? I think she's Kardashian Barker. Who? I'm thinking like a reality person.

I don't know like who's happily in love I don't know I'm trying to think of like a bachelor person Jordan Rod Jojo Jojo Fletcher is she Jojo Rogers I don't know I don't know I don't know but like a lot of people could legally they just don't change their their handle yeah so maybe she keep maybe this listener keeps whatever for work yeah and then changes it legally it's not gonna be that serious yeah yeah um what are your what's your rec for the week my rec for the week is um it's a book oh

I'm going to blank on the name. Is it like a non-fiction book? No, it's a... Oh, hold on. Hi. Come on. You did really good. We're almost done. What's your rec? My rec is... Have you heard of the old movie or the new TV show called Cruel Intentions? No. So...

I want to say they're 90s or early 2000s. They made a movie called Cruel Intentions. Very famous movie like Reese Witherspoon was in it. Yeah. Michelle Gallagher. Very very well known movie but they just rebooted it into a TV show. Really? Yeah. So it's like a little different like they they

They obviously changed the premise and the name is around a little bit. It's like Cruel Intentions based off of the movie. So good. Really? I finished it in like a week. Yeah. What's it on? Prime. Okay. Yeah. You should definitely watch it. It's fun. Okay. I like that. I would love to watch that. Yeah. I want to watch this new billboard we just walked by. Angelina Jolie. Yeah. The...

Was it Maria? Maria? Yeah. December. That doesn't count until December 11th, though. Okay, that's going to be what I want to watch. My book is... It's a Brene Brown one, and it's Dare to Lead. I've read it, but I just started rereading it a little. I think I've read that, too. Loved it. Is it old? It's old. It's old, and I love, love, loved it, but I was just... And I had it underlined, and I just was, like, revisiting it. Oh, I have not read that one of hers. I've read most of her books, but not Dare to Lead. That was my favorite one, and so I'm doing a reread on it. Brene Brown... I mean, maybe I should...

Maybe I should read... I don't know why I didn't read that. I read all of her books. Well, it's an interesting title, but it was so... It's so good. I've read... Oh, Daring Greatly. That's what I've read. That one's good. Gifts of Imperfection, obviously. I feel like everyone has read that. I love her. Love. Just love her. I need to read that. And then also, have you read any of your other books? Rising Strong? Atlas of the Heart just came out in 2021. Is Rising Strong the second to most recent one? Um...

Rising Strong. No, that's 2015. What's the most recent one? Atlas of the Heart. Yes, I started that one. It was very repetitive. I couldn't finish it. Okay, good to know. If you've read the other ones, I found it to be what we already knew. It looks like they have The Gifts of Imperfect Parenting.

Oh my God, I should read that. That might be really good. That would be... Oh, The Power of Vulnerability. I read that too. Oh, I read that one. I did read that one. Yeah, that one was really good. Yeah, I love her. Me too. The way she speaks is just like right to the soul. Oh, I love that. Okay. Awesome. Well, anything else? No, we love you guys. I checked my phone. Still green or white on the camera. Brutal. It's a pretty color green. I'll give you that. It's just like, what the...

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