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DEBATE: Alan & Dominic Vs @MCToon & Peter Markley | Podcast

2025/1/29
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Alan
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Dominic
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James
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MC Toon
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Peter
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Alan: 我运用科学方法,提出地球是平面的零假设和地球是球形的备择假设。通过分析地图投影、恒星观测、大地测量数据以及日落阴影等现象,我试图证明地球是平面的。经纬度坐标系源于恒星位置,现代测量单位也与之相关。恒星位置的观测结果与地球形状有关,不同的地图投影代表相同的坐标系。所有天体可以被视为等距的,视角会使物体看起来弯曲。大地测量学中的天文校正和比较表明,地球的测量结果取决于参考系(恒星)。日落阴影的几何特性、环极轨道以及“光束之战”等现象都与地球形状有关。卫星轨道以及公开的飞机航线图都表明地球是平面的。“光束之战”中的雷达交汇距离远超地球曲率的限制,这在地球是球体的情况下是不可能的。 Dominic: “光束之战”是地球并非球体的有力证据,因为其无线电波的水平传播在地球是球体的情况下是不可能的。飞机必须在特定的高度飞行并在特定的目标投弹,这在地球是球体的情况下是不可能的。我们应该先确定默认立场(地球是平坦静止的),然后由声称地球形状不同的方提供证据。 Peter: Alan和Dominic的观点属于一种现代的、源于Samuel Burley Robotham的特定学说,这种学说在科学上是错误的,并且缺乏其他思想体系的支持。他们否认日落现象,并对视角的几何学做出错误的解释。他们的学说吸引了不靠谱的人,并且缺乏实质内容。 MC Toon: 通过在南极洲的实验证明了24小时太阳的存在,这与所有平地球模型相矛盾。平地球理论家对南极洲24小时太阳的描述是错误的。在南极洲进行的实验结果与球形地球模型相符,并证伪了平地球模型。视角会使远处物体看起来更小,但太阳的视角大小在一天中没有变化,这在地球是平面的情况下是不可能的。平地球模型无法解释太阳视角大小不变的现象。平地球理论家对太阳的描述自相矛盾。南极洲的观测结果进一步证伪了平地球模型。

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This chapter explores the use of celestial objects to determine Earth's shape, examining different map projections and surveying methods. It discusses the relationship between star positions, latitude and longitude, and the definition of the meter. The chapter also touches upon the discrepancies found in zenith measurements of stars and their implications.
  • Maps are spherical coordinate systems using latitude and longitude derived from star positions.
  • All units of measurement are ratios of the terrestrial meridian.
  • Discrepancies in zenith measurements of stars challenge the assumptions of a fixed, defined point for stars.

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