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14: Moments with Mere

2022/1/17
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主播:我的父亲从事B2B营销工作,他经常向我讲述他如何热爱计算广告支出回报率(ROAS),并以此为荣。这让我对B2B营销领域有了一定的了解。 在日常生活中,我也会接触到各种各样的广告,这让我对广告的运作方式和效果评估有了更深入的认识。 我认为,有效的广告投放需要精准的定位和策略,才能最大限度地提高回报率。 Meredith:我没有直接参与B2B营销或广告投放,但我对广告效果的评估和分析有一定的了解。 我认为,一个成功的广告活动需要考虑多个因素,包括目标受众、广告创意、投放渠道以及预算分配等。 通过对广告效果的持续监测和分析,可以不断优化广告投放策略,提高广告的转化率和投资回报率。

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Lexi and Meredith met through their mutual friend Hannah, who suggested they fly together to Hawaii, despite never having met before.

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What's up you guys welcome back to the moments podcast I have a very special guest with me here today and this is the first person I've recorded with that isn't my mom or Lissette so this is a big deal guys this is this is a really really big deal so if you haven't guessed already who I'm with it's Meredith and

Hey guys. I'm like starstruck. I'm like listening to it like live. Yeah, this is definitely making both of us nervous and to make matters even worse, guys, it's almost 1am right now and we have to leave my house to go to the airport to fly to Hawaii at 4.30 in the morning.

Oh my gosh. By the time we get done with this, we're going to be like on the road. We're going to take an hour nap. That's what's going to happen. But you know what? We're going to pull through. We're going to stay strong because you guys gave us some really, really good questions.

I randomly, was it like two days ago? I was like, Meredith, we should record a podcast. It was today. Even better. I go, Mary, we should record a podcast together when you're here before we get to Hawaii, just because everything's going to be chaotic when we first get there. And I need an episode for Monday and I don't want to do it with anyone else. So let's just send it. And she was like, okay. And then I didn't know what we were going to talk about. So we just asked you guys on Instagram, what should we talk about? And we got a lot of good questions.

How are you feeling, Mare? A lot of juicy questions. Are you nervous? Are you excited? I'm kind of nervous. I'm not going to lie. I'm... It's going to be interesting. I am. Yeah. It's late. We're going to get... We're going to get deep. We're going to get deep. We're going to start spilling. And even... We're also a little bit delusional because it's so late. And I actually didn't wake up that early today. But anyways, it's still late. So we're just delusional because we're also flying 5,000 miles tomorrow. We have a 12-hour flight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, so some of you may know Meredith and some of you may not. We should probably tell you how we met because it's kind of a, like, really weird situation. So I'll give you my version first and then I want to see, like, how you first heard about me. Anyways. Oh, okay, okay. I was posting TikToks. This was, like, back during quarantine and Hannah...

Our other friend who also lives in Hawaii. See, there's so much you guys probably don't know, but I'll get into it. So I was on TikTok. I became mutuals with Hannah. We started talking all the time. Like, suddenly we just got super close talking through, like, Snapchat videos and stuff. And one day just decided, oh, let's go on, like, a trip to Hawaii for a month. A year later, it's been a year and we lived there together for seven months and we're about to go back. So...

That being said, me and Hannah were talking about Hawaii and all this and all that, and Hannah has a really big YouTube channel, so she's always done YouTube videos, and she had an editor. Her name was Meredith, and I didn't really know anything about Meredith, but Hannah was like, oh, my friend Meredith is going to come with us to Hawaii. And I was like, okay, sick. That's awesome. But I literally didn't know anything about Meredith. I didn't even follow her on Instagram at the time. I was just like, oh, cool, another person. And then she was like, okay, Meredith's kind of afraid of planes.

So she's like, do you want to fly to Michigan first and then you guys can fly to Hawaii together? And I was like, sure. Let me just go fly to this girl that I've never met, sleep at her house, and then fly across the country with her. I'm so extra. I was like, yeah, you should do it too. I know. What were we even... Clearly we both had a good gut feeling about each other because we both agreed to that. And

In my opinion, I would rather, like, meet a stranger and fly with them than fly by myself. I guess that's a good point. Because I had never flown by myself either, and I was like, I'm not about to, like, hike it across the country. Yeah. I had flown by myself, but I was also didn't want to go on a flight that long by myself. It would have been super weird, especially the first time leaving both of our families for that period of time. And at the time, we only thought we were leaving for, like, a month. Yeah. A month and a half, maybe. I don't know. But I ended up flying to Michigan. Yeah.

Meredith and her mom picked me up from the airport, and the rest is pretty much history. We'll get into the rest as we continue this, but how did Hannah first introduce you to me? So I knew about you from TikToks because I saw you in Hannah's TikToks. I actually had never seen your TikToks.

That's so weird. No, no, it's okay. We've talked about this before. Yeah, and then Hannah was like, she asked me to go to Hawaii with her, and I was like, no, I'm not doing it. I'm not going. Like, I'm not leaving my house. Like, whatever. And then she was like, all right, well, my friend Lexi's coming. And I was like, whoa, okay, who's Lexi? Yeah, who is this? I was like, who is this? And she was like, oh, have you seen her TikToks? She does, like, What I Eat in a Days and stuff. And I was like, no. And so then I, like, go up and I look up you on TikTok, and I'm like, oh.

oh, this girl seems kind of cool. And then Hannah was like, yeah, Lexi's in. And I was like, what? They can't go without me. And I was like, I have to go now. And I was like, no, like, I don't want to fly by myself. And she's like, Lexi will fly with you. And I was like,

Alright, cool, fine. And then we did it. Like, we really, that was so impressive. I didn't text you, I didn't call you. I think, I remember so specifically, you sent me, like, a picture, and you were, like, packing, and you were like, alright, like, I'm coming tomorrow, and I was like, alright, cool. I think that was the only time we texted individually, because I know we had a group chat with Hannah. Yeah. And Hannah would, like, communicate for us. Yeah, yeah. She honestly still does that. Like, she's, like, the confrontation queen in, like, the best way. Like, she gets us through all of our living together situations. Yeah.

But anyways, one of these days I'm going to have Hannah on the podcast too. And I think that once I get more microphones, I'm going to do like all three of us should do one. That would be so fun. And like just get creative with it somehow. Yeah. If you guys have any ideas for something creative the three of us could do together, let us know because that sounds like fun. Anyways, next thing was what was our first impression of each other? So I didn't know anything about Meredith. And it's hard to think back to my first impression because I know you so well now. But...

I didn't know how, how like happy sunshiny you were at the time, but I remember getting to the airport and I had my, I didn't have my bags. I was going to bag check and I looked up and I was like, Oh my God, I think that might be Meredith. Like she's blonde. She looks like kind of familiar, but we had barely seen each other guys. Like I'd seen Meredith's Instagram pictures and I think that that was it. So that's what I was going off of. Um,

So I look up. We make eye contact. But Mary, you didn't have your glasses on or something? Yeah, I couldn't see you. So we just made eye contact. I put my head back down. I kept walking. I was like, I really think that's her. Like, should I walk up to her first or should I just go stand and wait? It was so awkward. No, I was texting my mom. I was like, my mom was like, do you see Lexi yet? And I was like, I don't know. And she was like, what do you mean you don't know? Like, you either see her or you don't. And I was like, I think it is, but I'm not sure. But you were the only person in the airport. We were the only teenage girls in the airport. So it had to be each other.

But then I went up to her and I hugged her and then, I don't know, I think I was just on some adrenaline high and I think it was just a great first impression. Like, nothing, there's nothing I could think that was too awkward. Like, I got in the car, I got in the back seat, your mom and I started talking. Yeah. And then we started talking about Michigan and, like, what part of Michigan you live in. And then we stayed up until, oh, look, we're doing that again. Yeah. And that was the first time we went. So we talked about random things. I remember your dad came in and, like, asked...

about movies or something it's a weird vivid memory but what was your first impression of me uh like when we met yeah honestly the same though because like I didn't know I had no expectations of you anyways like I was like okay like she seems really like fun like nice like you know the basics and then I remember we were like sitting in my room and we were like

talking about like the randomest stuff and I was like so random this girl gets it I was like we're already clicking and like I'm because I get really uncomfortable with new people but I was never uncomfortable with you I love that wow I'm like she's such a comforting person I'm so honored this is gonna be great like I can totally fly with this girl and then it was great it was just like I don't know since the beginning I've just always clicked and just always got along and

I don't know, it is really weird to think that we're recording a podcast together and like... A year ago. Less than a year ago, almost just about a year ago, was our first time ever meeting. But I feel like we always say this. We feel like we've known each other for a lifetime. It's true. It's true. Like, you feel like a childhood best friend that I met at camp or something. It's so interesting. And it's cool because, I mean, now you guys know this, but the first time we flew to Hawaii...

I slept at Meredith's house. And then this time I made her fly to Florida so we could fly together. And now she's sleeping at my house. I don't know. I just think it's cool. And I think that there's a lot of really cool coincidences, like just within our friendship. It just makes it feel right. Like I just, it just makes sense. Yeah. Okay. Next one. What have you learned from each other? Meredith's taught me a lot of things and I don't even know how to pinpoint them. Just, I, I don't know.

I've always, I don't know if this is something I've learned or just something I've like really enjoy about your presence is that I always just feel safe whenever we're like together. Like I don't even know how to explain it. Like you've just taught me comfort. Like that sounds so weird, but I mean, there's so many things and I'm sure we'll cover more of them, but I think one thing you've definitely taught me is comfort, comfort and like how to make someone else comfortable too. Like

That's so funny because mine's like the opposite. Like, you've taught me to not be comfortable. To step out? But in a good way. Like, I feel like I'm always in my comfort zone. I'm always, like, doing, like, the safe thing. But, like, when I met you, you were like, no, we're going on a hike. I was like, no, you're coming in the ocean with sharks with me. Yeah, yeah. You're like, no, like, that picture's really cute. Or, like, just stuff that's like, wow. And I'm like, you're right. Why did that give me goosebumps? That's so cool. The prime example is when, because I'm a germaphobe.

And I didn't, like, use ChapStick. Oh, my gosh. And I remember, like, we were... I don't know where we were, but, like, you were, like, here, like... I don't even know how you asked me. I think I asked for, like... It was at Steve's birthday party. ChapStick or something. And you're like, yeah, use this. And I used it. And you're like, what? And I was like, whoa. No, I think I took a Snapchat memory and it literally says...

This is a day in history. Meredith just used my chapstick. Because at that point, we had been in Hawaii for a few weeks. So we had gotten pretty close. And I knew that you don't share chapstick or share drinks or anything. And no germs. It was just really, really fun. But that's so cool. We did the opposite for each other. And that's like the first thing that popped into her mind. Yeah. Whoa. I love that. Okay. Next. What was it like living together? Honestly, great.

I know. I've never, like, lived with anyone. I didn't, like, go away to college or anything. So, like, I didn't have any expectations. This is, like, the first step out. Yeah, a big step out. Wow.

So we were just randomly like, okay, yeah, 5,000 miles apart. Yeah, literally. Or away from home. And meanwhile, a lot of you guys may know... Actually, yeah, if you're listening to this, you probably know that I went to college for... I went away to school for a year and literally transferred home because I got homesick. Yet we decided to just go across the country together. Yeah, that's the main reason why I didn't go away to college was because I didn't want to leave my family. And then I was like, yeah, like...

Let's do it. One thing you should know about both of us is that we're both pretty close with our family to where we just like being home. Yeah. So even going back again has been weird for us because we're anxious in a good way. Yeah. Just sad to leave, but excited to be there again. Yeah. Where did we start with that? Oh. What was it like living together? But honestly, I think it was great. Like,

I think a lot of people have bad experiences living with someone else, and I can't say that I have. Yeah. Like, we've just never really had... Everyone did their part. It was clean. We all shared. Like, we were all, like, considerate. We, like, lived in each other's closets. Yeah. It just...

It was just good. And we did, like, everything together. Like, we had dinner and, like, we watched movies and, like, we had things that we shared. Like, New Girl, like, TV show. Oh, my gosh, New Girl. Like, that was, like, our thing. Like, songs that were our thing. And snacks that we would... And we played, like, Just Dance to work out. But all that being said, like, don't get me wrong. We've all still had our moments where, like, one of us is in a mood and then it makes all of us in a mood. Like, we're all girls. We're literally 20 and 21-year-old girls. It's normal to have, like, weird moments. Yeah.

But overall, I think it was good. Yeah, and, like, we knew how to respect each other when we had our moments, too. Like, if someone was, like, not, like, having it that day, we were like, okay, like, we're gonna let you be. Or, like, if you want to talk, like, you know. And the longer we lived together, also, the more we knew how to read each other. Yeah. Which was cool because...

I don't know. It's just cool. I love learning experiences, and I think that us just running away definitely threw us into a learning experience faster than we ever could have imagined. No, that's very true. What's next? Are you in the same mindset that you were the first time you went to Hawaii? Absolutely not. That's a solid no. Like, it's a big, fat, hard no. Yeah. The first time I went to Hawaii, I...

Oops, I dropped something. Sorry about that, guys. First time I went to Hawaii, I went with the mindset that I was only going out there for a month. So I kind of had more of a vacation mindset and I was doing social media, but I wasn't doing social media for like work and I didn't have a podcast. I didn't have anything really that I do now. I just kind of somehow had a lot of followers on Instagram and TikTok.

But while I was there, I grew a lot and I tried to focus on how I can make it something that's like sustainable for me to do long term and like how I can benefit other people while also doing what I love kind of thing. And I don't know, I just went through a lot of mental shifts while I was there and I learned a lot about myself, which also taught me just about my boundaries. And overall, the answer to the question is I am in a completely different mindset. So it's going to be interesting for me to see what it's like when I go back this time. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel like we both kind of agreed on that. Yeah. But when you first went there, what was your mindset? Well, like you said, I thought I was literally, like, gonna be there for, like, a month or whatever. I had no, like, expectation of staying. You just didn't even know anything. Yeah, I didn't know anything. I feel like I've grown so much, like, since the first time I was there. So I feel like my mindset...

I can tell you guys for sure, Meredith is a completely different person. No, in the best way. In the best way. So, like, in such a good way. I mean, you went out there, like, full side part. Yeah, side part. I don't even know. That's all I need to say. Like, there's nothing wrong with the side part at all. But it's just, like, I see that version of you as just so different. I was just very shy. I wasn't very confident. I was kind of very, like, wishy-washy. Like, mentally just gained that confidence.

I don't know. I feel like I just know who I am more and, like, what I, like, want and don't want more. And so, like, going in, I feel like I can take everything that I learned last time and, like, actually apply it into my experience. I think that's gonna be super cool for both of us to do because we both... We were talking about this earlier. Half the stuff that we're saying right now is what we talked about on the drive home from the airport and sitting in my room. But...

We learned a lot while we were there, and then we came home and started applying it, but we haven't applied anything we learned in Hawaii to actual Hawaii. Yeah. So we'll see. I mean, I think that everything that's going to come from this time around is going to be good, and...

We're just going into it with a good mindset. I'm just looking forward to it. Yeah, I feel like we're a lot more open-minded now. Especially while we're doing this, I'm starting to get a lot more excited than I felt like I was before. I was always excited, but just talking about this... It's good to get it out. And realizing that we actually did have such a good time and we do really well living together and being together, I'm just starting to get hype, you know? Yes. Okay. Hardest lesson learned in Hawaii?

I don't know. There were a lot of lessons. Definitely. It took me a second to think about this one, but you guys know I had a couple moments of...

struggle while I was there. And what I would do was isolate myself from the people I love that were living far away from me. And by those people, I mean my mom. I wasn't calling her as often as I should have when she would have probably been my biggest supporter and basically my therapist through everything I was going through. And me and Lissette would get in stupid fights all the time just because, I don't know, I would be petty or I wouldn't answer or...

We just fought over stupid stuff all the time because I slowly started to isolate myself. And what I needed to do was just more so take time for myself to go focus on calling them instead of just trying to pretend I felt great and not tell them how I was feeling. I don't know. So I just learned...

to talk to people even when I'm struggling, I would say. Yeah. What about you? Kind of like the same thing, like just doing like small things for yourself that you like to do because it's hard when you're with a big group all the time and everyone's doing the same thing and like it's hard to find time during your days to like

Just do, like, read a book, like, for yourself or just go on a walk by yourself. Like, it's hard to separate from everyone when you want to have fun and you want to be in the group. And the FOMO is so real. Yeah, yeah. That was definitely... I'd say, I don't... Someone definitely asked this at some point, but, like, what was the hardest part about being in Hawaii? I think that we could both agree that everyone...

It was such a weird time. There was, like, six of us. I mean, you guys know... Most of you know the six of us that were out there. And, like, we were all together all the time. And it almost felt wrong to want to do something by yourself just because...

We were always together. And you knew that it wasn't going to, like, last. Like, not, like, not last, but you knew it was, like, special having everyone there. So it's, like, you want to make the most of it. I remember I would feel guilty if everyone was going to go do something and I was like, no, I'm actually not going to do it because I need to focus on myself today. Yeah. Because you never know when you'll get that moment back or if it'll ever happen again. And then the FOMO just takes over. And then you do go hang out with the group and you're like, oh, crap, I really need it today for myself.

And going into it this time, I've definitely set a lot more boundaries for I need time to focus on myself and my work and just...

things in general like yeah actually pay attention to my mental health instead of just being so worried about missing out on like a good party or a good day at the beach yeah it's definitely important to do that and like that goes for everything in life yeah yeah even like getting FOMO like oh what's happening at home right now like oh I should really like call my mom or I should text my brother and it's like oh no but I have to do this and it's just like everything boils over and you're like eventually you're like okay

Yeah, if you do find yourself ever struggling with FOMO, I remember when I first came home from college is when I struggled with this the most. Just seeing all of my best friends going out and having a blast and me being home, but I knew that I needed to be home. It's a really weird thing, and I don't know the exact piece of advice that I have for this, but it's more so just really evaluate yourself.

why you're upset that you're not doing something. Is it because other people are having fun without you or is it because you genuinely want to be there? Because in a lot of cases, you'll realize you just don't want to see people having fun without you. And it's a hard pill to swallow, but we all have an ego. And in a lot of cases, that's just, that's just how it goes. Nothing wrong with it though. This episode of the moments podcast is sponsored by better help. Quick

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The answer is yes, but it's an anxiousness that's mixed with excitement. And I think that sometimes those two emotions get confused just because...

I don't know. They make me feel a similar type of way. So sometimes I get confused of if I'm actually anxious or I'm actually excited or if I'm stressed. I don't know. My emotions all get mixed up sometimes. So that's my short answer for that. Yeah. No, that's pretty true. It's like, it's a good anxious kind of. Yeah. I wouldn't say anxious is good, but like, it's like half excited. Like, there's definitely such thing as good.

Yeah. I mean, before I go on a date, guys, I haven't really gone on a date, but there was one time in high school I went on a date, and I got super anxious, but it was also mixed with excitement. Yeah. And me and Lissette, when we did cheer together back in the day when we were little baby girls, we...

I'm starting to get really excited I know As we keep going I know

Oh, this is a good question leading into it. What are you most looking forward to when you go back? What's the first thing that comes to your mind? North Shore tacos. Mine was... I've been thinking about it all day. Mine was Nalu. Oh, that was my second. Both of us, it's food. Not surprised there. Meredith and me love to eat. I also thought of, like, just, like, swimming. Swimming, yes. Because, like, it's literally freezing. Yeah, you're used to snow. In Michigan, yeah. Yeah, I've swam here, but it's not the same thing on any level. I'm excited to feel the sun. Oh.

Oh my gosh, and tan. There's lots of things that we're excited about. I can definitely say that. And we could go on and on and on and on about them, but we're going to go to the next question. It's mostly just food. Okay, biggest inspirations. This was a random one, but we figured we would touch on it because when I wrote it down on the iPad outline thing, I was like, do you have a biggest inspiration? She's like, yeah, I have a few, but I don't know. Yeah.

The first thing I always think is my mom because she's always been super strong and like times that she struggles, she always pushes through them. So I've always looked up to that. But I also look up to Chance the Rapper because he does a lot with social works and kids and he's my favorite artist of all time. So I also like Obama. I thought he was a homie.

So those would probably be my biggest inspirations. I'd probably say my mom and dad, honestly. Because my mom is, like you said, so strong. She never will let us see her...

being, like, have a weak moment. And it's, like, oh, my gosh. And sometimes I'm like, Mom, you have to let those emotions out. But also then I do thank her because she taught me to... It's a weird thing. Yeah. Maybe it's just a mom thing. Like, I see her do everything and I'm like, oh, my gosh. I can do it, too. I can do it, too. And, like, my dad, like, my dad is also so strong because he, like, supports my mom. And, like, them together as a couple, like...

oh no I saw your mom's anniversary post for your dad and I sat there and I read the caption like three times I'm like all I can dream of they never talking of me talking about me like that one day I know that is so never left the honeymoon and it's so cute that's why I will never settle because never my parents settle yeah and my dad like he also inspires me he's also like he's always so like

funny your dad's freaking awesome the like sad times like he's always just cracking jokes like I make him sound like he like he has really good advice too like I have to give him that but like dad her dad is awesome and I now I feel bad I didn't say my dad I promise my dad is also someone I look up to he's always been so hard working and I would say he's the reason that I'm slightly less impulsive than I could be because he always teaches me every time I've ever done something

that went wrong, he told me ahead of time, maybe you shouldn't do that, Lexi. So I honestly do really appreciate that for him. Yeah. From, you know what I'm saying. He's freaking great. I love my dad. I love my dad. Every time people, like, compare me to, like, my mom or my dad, I'm so flattered. I'm like, thank you. Like, I love it. As you should. Oh, they're so, like... We were just talking about earlier how...

how much our parents would get along. And it just keeps making more sense. Like, they need to hang out. Mom, Dad, everyone else...

If you're listening, you guys have to hang out. No, they always are, like, I feel like they're so, um, like, open-minded, too. Like, they're always, like, pushing us. They're like, oh, yeah, like, the sky's the limit. Go for it. It's like, if they, like, hung out together, it would be like, yeah, you guys want to move to Greece for seven years? Do it. Chase your dreams. Yeah, we'd all be, like, going on a trip with them, like, five minutes a meeting each other. Oh, my gosh. No, that would literally be awesome. One day they will hang out. Anyways, we could probably move on from our parents. Yeah. Even though they're, like, the best people in the whole wide world. Yeah.

Okay, favorite things about each other. Meredith's aura. The energy that she gives off. Like, I said this in the beginning, but anytime I'm around her, I just feel like I could say anything or do anything and she would still just be my friend. Like, I never feel any judgment or, like, insecurity around you. Like, I don't know. It's kind of deep, but it's true. Like, I just feel...

I feel safe in your arms. Like, I don't know. It's such a weird thing. That was also, like, a weird expression to put it in. But you guys get what I'm going for. Oh, my gosh. I'm, like, speechless. I look at the mic and I'm like, are you hearing this? Just stop talking for the rest of the podcast. I leave. No, I would say the same thing. Like, I'm very, like, comforted. But, like, also, like, I feel like you just push me to be better at, like, everything. Even, like, small things. Like...

I don't know how to explain it. Like, even me coming here, I'm, like, so chill about it. I'm like, oh, yeah. Like, I'm already comforted and I'm not even there. The best part, I picked up Meredith from the airport, right? And then we get to my house and I haven't said bye to one of my grandmas yet. And I had to go. She was finishing editing a video and I was like, okay, so I'm going to leave for, like, an hour and a half. I'm going to go pick up some food and go say bye to my grandma. You're good, right? And meanwhile, like, my whole family's home that she literally just met 10 minutes ago. And she was like, yeah, cool. That's fine. Like,

I don't know. There's not a lot of people that I can say. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I just think we just...

make each other better people. Yeah, like, I've never met anyone like Lexi, like, ever. No, like, the vibes, it's just contagious, like, happiness, I feel like. And even if it's, like, a bad, like, even if one of us are having a bad day or, like, a bad moment, there's still, like, something that's, like... We always keep good energy. Yeah, like, the energy is always good, even if something's bad. And I think that's such a good thing to have, like, a good characteristic to have. I think that just...

I just think that we have a good friendship. And I think that what you need to look for in life when you're finding new friends and you're meeting new people and you're getting into like serious relationships is you have to be

spending time around people who better you as a person in in some way shape or form like some you're gonna gain different things from different friends like lisette teaches me how to have fun all the time she reminds me that like i'm 21 and i'm supposed to have fun and and then there's other friends who just like inspire me to read books or inspire me to stay active like as long as you're gaining something from a friend like that's how you know it's someone that you need to keep

in your life. Yeah. And I think that we definitely do that for each other without even really realizing it. Like, I didn't know that I did that, but now I know. You learn something new every day. It's like, you can't put it into words. Like, I can probably, like, pop off and I wish I could, but I just can't, like, I can't explain it. And I've, what I've learned about myself is when it's something I can't fully explain, it means the most to me. Yeah. Which is so interesting and something I've learned through doing the podcast is just that

I don't know. Sometimes the things I want to talk about most that I feel the most passionate about are the hardest things for me to put into words. That's true. Because they're so strong in my mind. Anyways, moving on. Oh, this is a fun one. You guys are really going to like this one. Especially if you followed along the Hawaii journey. How did we meet the boys? Do you want to start this one, Mary? Low key. How did we? Well, imagine three girls moving to an island. Yes.

With no friends. That's really how this all gets started. One of them's in a relationship at the time, and then there's two left, and those two would be me and Meredith. So me and Meredith one day decide to just joke around and make a Tinder. Just, you know, see, like, what the island boys were like. Okay, I need to say this.

I do not ever, like, I had never had Tinder. I was peer pressured. I was helping him stay well. We were both peer pressured into it. Hannah was like, you need to make one so you can make friends. And I was like, what's

What? And she was like, yeah. And I was like, okay, I guess I'll, like... I guess we'll do it. I guess I'll do it. And then Lexi did it, and then we're like, oh. Like, at least we're in this together. Like, we both did it. And then we would, like, randomly just go on and, like, swipe through. But we never messaged with anyone. No. Like, we would match with people, but we didn't have a conversation with a single person on Tinder. Which doesn't really make sense as to why we would get that for friends when we didn't make friends. I know. I know. But we ended up making friends. Here's how. Because... So...

We're at the beach one day. I remember it vividly. It was like the Valentine's Day swell. We're sitting there. The beach is packed because the waves were huge this day. And we're literally sitting on the beach watching the waves. And we see this group of guys. So obviously, we start looking at the guys because we're girls and they're guys. They're right in front of us. Yeah. I mean, come on. You guys know how this goes. I don't need to go into detail here. And they're about to leave.

And they scream across the beach. Literally, there's groups of people in between us. They go, hey, we follow you on TikTok. TikTok.

And at the time, I was like the TikTok one. Like, Hannah, I would say it's YouTube. I just kind of, at the time, TikTok was my thing. So then I was like, oh, no. I was like, Hannah, guys, what's going on? Like, are they talking to me? They go, yeah, yeah. Can we get a picture with you? And at this point, I was like, what is... This is not... I know they're not my demographic. This is not okay. I go, Hannah, walk over there with me. Please do not make me go alone. We start getting off. We start walking over there. And they're like... I did not move. I was like, what?

It was so... Oh, my God. It gives me secondhand embarrassment thinking back. And then they're like, no, no, no. And then they come over. We talked to them for, like, 10 minutes. They invite us to come over that night. And we're like, sure. Literally, these guys could have...

been really bad people and we're just like yeah we'll come over we have no friends guys i told them i told hannah and lexi because i'm very like skeptical i was like we are not going to these guys house we're not going over there like we don't know them what if we're like gonna get kidnapped or something i was like this is just sketchy so i was like mad when we like i remember so vividly i walked in the door and i was like triggered like i was like looking at everyone and i was like

And I was the opposite because, I mean, you guys have learned this. I clearly always step out of my comfort zone and like to do impulsive things. So...

We went to their house. The rest is kind of history. At the time, there were eight of them living in the house or seven. I don't know. There was a bunch of them. And we just started kind of hanging out with them every single day because on the way home that night, our car broke down and we needed them to come pick us up and drive us the rest of the way to our house. And yeah, then we started hanging out with them. And then Hannah and Dean hit it off at that point. And that whole relationship happened. We'll go into that when I talk with Hannah, but that's a story for a later date.

And then a bunch of the guys started leaving and all that was left was Jack and Truckee. And that's really how we met them.

So we just, oh, I didn't even tell you the part where Tinder comes into play, guys. The first night we're at their house, I'm asking Steve, the guy who came up to us on the beach. I was like, hey, so I know that you don't actually know who I am. Like, I know you don't follow my TikTok. How the heck did you know that? And how did you come up to us? He goes, well, you actually matched with one of us on Tinder. They wouldn't like tell us. They wouldn't tell us which one.

And then, at the time we didn't know who it was, walks out the door, and Steve looks at him and goes, that one. And then he introduced himself as Jack, and that was that. And to make things even better, he also matched with Meredith. But, yeah, like, he claims he doesn't know that we matched. I don't know if he was just, like, making that up to, like, seem, like, really cool and, like...

I don't know, but... It's really funny. There's a lot of really, really funny stories about Hawaii. Everything just came into play. Like, it all, like, connected. It all connected, and I couldn't really explain how it connected. Hence why I don't even know how to tell that story with it making sense. I feel like that made sense. A little bit, yeah. This episode is brought to you by Shopify. Whether you're selling a little or a lot...

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So this one's really funny because when we all started hanging out and Hannah was like posting YouTube videos, a lot of people really were shipping...

groups of us together. Like, sometimes they would say, oh my god, Jack and Meredith have a thing, or Jack and, not Jack and Dean, no, no, no. Jack and Dean have a thing. Dean and Meredith have a thing, or Lexi and Truckee have a thing, or Meredith and Truckee have a thing. And they really were mixing them all up. They were just saying a little bit of everything. But then I think people's favorite were that Meredith and Truckee were dating. Yes. To clear things up, they never dated. They never dated, guys. They never dated. I, like, came home and, like, people, like,

Like, I knew. Like, I would go get my hair done and, like, at my mom's salon and, like, everyone would be asking, like, so, like, how are you getting truckie? And I'm like, I don't really know how you guys know this, but the answer's no. Oh, it was funny. Oh.

Oh my gosh. Because also for a long time while Hannah and Dean were together, no one knew that they were together. So people were just guessing all sorts of things. Which is fun though. I mean, I loved like seeing what people would have to say. And I'm like, oh, like who's dating who today? Oh, and it was just so funny. And then, and I feel like we need to include this part. I don't know how to go into it, but Meredith and I liked the same boy.

I'm going to let you guys fill in the blank on which one it was. But it was really funny because we bonded over it. Yeah, like most...

when another girl likes the same guy as, like, another girl, they usually don't get along. Yet, for me and Meredith, I would say that's one of the reasons that we are as close as we are now. Yeah, no. And I mean that, like, straight up from the bottom of my heart. I'm not even just, like, saying that to, like, make it... There was never any...

beef between us through it all. Like, I remember, like, we had that, like, long conversation, and we kind of just went circles, like, round and round, but we weren't mad. Yeah, we just said to each other, we're like, okay, well, if he likes you, he likes you. If he likes me, he likes me. You're like, no, go for it, go for it. And you're like, no, go for it. And we're like, no, no, no, you go. Guys, it's so weird, and it's so funny, and I think that we also just were fine with it because he wasn't, he was hooking up with other people. Yeah. So...

I don't know. And it's never like we're both like, oh my God, we really, really like him. It was just like, oh, he's like cute. And Hannah's in a perfect in love relationship. I need to feel something. So I'm going to, I'm going to feel pain. Oh my gosh, that's so funny. What a time. I was just thinking, do you know what would be really funny is if we recorded an episode with him.

and just spilled everything that we ever experienced. I would totally do that. I don't think that we could. Oh, actually, I would totally do that. Look at us pushing each other to do different things. Okay, we'll see. I just think it would be funny because I just don't care anymore. I know. So I would get a kick out of that because it would make him uncomfortable. It would be really funny. Guys, if you want us to do that,

then you'll have the reveal of which one it was if you don't already know anyways we're just gonna go ahead and move on the next one is where do you picture each other in 10 years like where do I picture you and where do you picture me I picture you doing something with video but you're not editing I see you recording more than I see you edit I mean probably doing both but

I think that you have more of a passion for photography and videography than you even realize. And I could really see you doing it long term in a way that benefits people somehow. Like inspires people. And it's also pleasing to the eye. I don't really know. I feel like you still have so much...

so many things you're going to learn about what you love doing that are going to happen in the next like couple years that I can't exactly pinpoint what you're going to be doing oh glad you have high hopes I have like really really high hopes actually I know it's going to be something amazing oh I'm glad yeah I get excited to like think about what I'm going to learn because I even just like with editing like right now I know so much more than I thought I ever did and it's

crazy. Yeah, I can barely edit, like, a simple video, so Meredith is gonna teach me all that one day. Yeah, I will. I can see you... There's so many things I can see you doing. I'm really curious, actually. The big thing that comes to my mind is definitely traveling. Oh, yeah. I can see you, like, having, like, a book or something. I do want to write a book. Like, just, you're, you speak so well, and you have such good things to say that I feel like... Thank you. Thank you. That I feel like you're gonna use that to, like,

I definitely want to. Help people. I feel like that's one thing I've learned through doing all the social media stuff is that that's one of my passions. Like, when I first started doing longer Instagram captions where I would talk about what was on my mind, I was like, oh, I'm actually really enjoying this. And I've realized that I've been doing that for so long. Quick little exposing myself here. I used to have an account called LexYoga.

that I used in high school and middle school. And I would write all these captions similar to what I write now, but I was like 14. I was like, okay, clearly I've always enjoyed doing this and I don't see myself ever stopping it. So one day there will be a book. Yeah. Like even your TikToks when you just like are talking, like I'll watch them and I'm like, oh, that's so like, she's so true. Like, that's so right. Like, oh, that's so true, girl. I'm like, girl, preach it. I'm like, it just brings comfort. And I feel like so many people like

Like how you said, like, we're listening to your podcast. I think it's so cool because you're going to impact so many people. That's the goal. I think that I would say that that's my number one goal. It's just being able to impact people to, I don't know, love themselves and do what they love. Yeah. I don't know. And just... Inspire people to inspire other people. Yeah. Like, I like when we create, like, this train of...

Like, pay it forward, but, like, bigger. Yeah, but with, like, exactly. Wow. Yeah, we're going to be doing really cool. Dang. Maybe we'll be doing something together. Who knows? Like, how will we be as friends in 10 years? Like, will we both have a husband and kids? Or is one of us going to be, like, the crazy aunt who can't get her life together because I feel like that one might be me. No, I think my life will be together, but I thought of a husband and kids as a little terrifying right now. Right now, yes. It sounds amazing.

But right now, I'm not emotionally capable of handling that. Okay, that's fair. In the future, though. In the future, yeah. But not now. Next question. We actually have so many questions left, but I think that we're only going to do a few more because I didn't expect us to be able to talk for this long. Oh, I fully knew we were going to. I knew we could do it, but like so consistently, too. We've just kept going. Yeah. But the next one is what are some of our favorite memories together? And there's a lot. Anytime we would go out to eat.

We always had a good time. When we took the bus. Oh my gosh. I don't know why. That was just really fun. Oh my gosh. I think Hannah was with Dean or something and we were meeting them somewhere and I didn't have a car. Did I have a car at the time?

No, I didn't have a car at the time. So yeah, I obviously didn't have a car. Stupid. Um, so we're like, let's take the bus. And we were so excited to take the bus. And I remember we had to freaking sprint to the bus because we're really bad at getting ready on time for things. Hence, like how we have to be up and we have to leave in three hours and we're not in bed.

Anyway. Okay, so yeah, we took the bus and then we got food and then we just had, like, really random good memories. Like, any time...

We drove. We would listen to really sad music. And one time we were listening to really sad music and our property manager lady knocked on the window and was like, guys, it's quiet hours. Meanwhile, we were blasting Bruno Mars talking to the moon. And we were like, we're in our feels. And she was like, no, no. Be happy. Be happy. And we were like, just let us have our moment, please. Her name's Marlene. I love her. She's a little bit crazy sometimes. Good.

Good crazy. Like, I think she's just looking out for the well-being of everyone. No, she is. I think one of my favorites is Lexi took me on, like, my first ever hike. And I was always kind of, like, scared to go on hikes. Yeah.

being a scaredy cat all the time. And she was like, no, it's like a really easy hike. Like, we went with a couple of our other friends and they were all like telling me it was like super easy, like chill, not scary. We all lied to her. Yeah, they lied to me. And so I was like, fine, I'll go. Like, I'm still kind of nervous though. And then we start...

And it's intense. It's not like a little walk in the park. We're really getting up there. We were full on rock climbing, guys. Yeah. And then not even halfway through, I was like, I love this. I was really hype. And everyone was like, this is so scary. And I was like, no, this is great. And then that is when Meredith turned into adventure. Adventurous. And then we went on a couple other hikes together. And every time they were great. I mean, you just can't go wrong with a good hike.

Like, and I was super excited because I was the only one who liked hiking when we first got there. And I also didn't really want to go hike by myself. And I didn't want to go hike with just the boys, which even the boys don't even really like hiking. Truckee's literally scared of heights. Jack's the only one that likes hiking. But...

Eventually, I got Mera on the wave, and then we all started hiking a little bit, and I'm excited to do that when we get back, for sure. It was such a good memory. That was when I really, really, really got out of my comfort zone. I was very just... It was such a good moment. It's so fun stepping out of the comfort zone bubble. Yeah, it is. I was very grateful. It was just such a good group, too, and we were all just very supportive. We were blasting Purple Hat. Good times. Good times. Yes. Yes.

I also, I know I've said this like quite a few times, but I love eating. So every morning Meredith and I would come downstairs and I would be like, are you going to have oats for breakfast? Or sometimes we would get like special K cereal. We would eat it or we would make pancakes or waffles. But I just remember it so vividly always trying to figure out like,

Like what we were going to eat every morning. It was always a dilemma. It always was because we're just so not even picky. Because I want to eat everything. But it was like, what am I going to eat today? And then we had to decide. But the next question is, how did you guys get so close so quickly? Well, when we were on the airplane, Meredith had this water bottle and she decided to open it when we were all the way in the sky. No, it was like one of those ones with the straw that like you like pop open. Pop open. And what happened, Mare? Well, I was just sitting there. I had my computer open. I had my headphones in and...

I'm like, I'm going to get a sip of water. And I push a little button, the straw pops up and water just starts shooting out of the top. Everywhere. All over the, like the lady behind me, all over my computer. I just sat there in shock. And like, I looked at Lexi and I was like. And that was when we knew. And that was when I knew that we were going to be friends. It was actually, that's like definitely a very memorable moment. Like a core memory for the rest of my life.

It was so funny. We did not know how to react. Like, I think we slowly turned around and we're like, I'm so sorry about that to the lady behind us. Yeah, and then the lady next to me was, like, freaking me out because she was like, your computer's gonna break. And I was like, oh, no. It was just a good moment for us to, like, struggle together. And it was kind of just, like, it kind of broke the ice. Like, the ice was broken, but it was, like, really... No, we had cracked the ice. This, like, put the... Yeah. Chloe broke it. It was like, we're in it. Next question is...

Are you very open with each other? Definitely. Yeah. I think that's just a straightforward answer. Like, there's no, like, yes, but. No, it's just. Yeah. Yes. We are. Next one is how we got into film because me and Mer have both really liked film and it's because we literally owe it all to Brian. I don't know if you guys follow him on Instagram. You probably do without even realizing it, but he does a lot of film and he shoots always in film. And he was over at our apartment one day and we were just asking him, like, about his cameras and about all the stuff he shoots and then he told us and, like,

He actually got us our first film cameras. I totally forgot about that for a second. And, like, it just meant so much to us. And then I think at that point we just took it and ran with it. And now we both have, like, multiple film cameras. Yes. We're obsessed with it. We take pictures of anything and everything. And...

Yeah, that's really, that's really. Yeah. I remember that day so vividly because I had a film camera. Like, it was like a really old one. We both had the manual ones. Doesn't work. I figured that out. Oh, no. But I was like, he was just teaching me how to use it and like all the different things about it that I had no idea. And it kind of just opened up a can of worms. Can of worms. And we. And here we are. Yep.

I'm obsessed. Okay. Next one. This podcast is getting long. I haven't done one this long in a while. So we'll answer one more question and then I think we'll cut it. But if you guys want more, we will totally do more. I mean, we're going to be together for at least the next...

few weeks, months, who knows? We don't really know. But we can definitely do another episode. So the last one is dating advice. I don't know why anyone would ask this to me and Meredith because when's the last time you had a boyfriend? Honestly, I don't. Hmm.

High school? Yeah. Same. Like, I had a boyfriend two years ago, and I couldn't give you any advice on that because I don't even know how it happened or what I gained from it. But definitely don't ask me and Meredith for dating advice. Maybe that's a question we can ask Hannah. I, like, low-key have good dating advice. Like, I...

Like, I love to think that I know everything about being in a relationship when we haven't been in one. And, like, my friends, like, come to me and they're, like, asking for advice and I just, like, really go off and, like, listen here. Like, this is what you're going to do. And I think it's a good thing and I actually, you know, you make a good point. I think that we do give good advice because we're so aware of our worth. I just keep telling myself I'm aware of my worth and that's why I'm single. Whatever. Yeah.

It's true. But to an extent, yes. Like, we're aware of what we want and what we look for in a serious relationship. So when people are in something that gets messy and they need advice on it, we're just straightforward. Like, no, you shouldn't be treated like that. So, no. Yeah. No, that's, like, the biggest thing. Like, when my friends are like, oh, like, he's treating me like this, blah, blah, blah. Hannah actually told me this advice, and I think about it all the time. It's like, what would you say, like...

if that were, like, me. Like, if my, like, like, if your, like, boyfriend or whatever was treating you bad, like, would you want him to treat me like that? Like, your close friend like that? So it's good to think about, because it's like, dang, like, if I wouldn't want my friend to be treated like that, why would I tolerate it, too? Dang. But shout out to Hannah for that, because she actually, she actually told me that, so. Guys, we get to see her tomorrow, and we're gonna be all back together. Technically today. Oh, shoot.

Speaking of, on that note, I think we're going to get to bed because it is currently 1.42 in the morning and we are waking up at 4 o'clock in the morning. So...

Let's resume this at a later date. But thank you guys for listening. I hope you enjoyed this. This was the first time I had a guest that wasn't Lissette or my mom. So big steps. Big steps for the podcast. Big steps. And Merida, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. Anytime. I have one question for you. What's your question? Why do bad things happen to good people? Why do bad things happen to good people? Guys, that's what I was going to title this episode because one day Merida said it and then it just stuck and now we both have sweatshirts that say...

why do bad things happen to good people yeah I just say in ironic times like I dropped oh it was when I dropped the oats I spilled the oats and I was like why do bad things happen to good people and everyone was like what and then it was every time like we would do something stupid like I dropped nail polish and it broke I texted her a picture I was like why do bad things happen to good people and then now we just say it all the time yeah but it's fun to incorporate that into your life when something bad happens and you want to laugh about it so exactly

I love you guys. Thank you for listening. We will talk again next Monday. And at that point, I will be coming to you live from Hawaii. So peace out. Bye, Florida. Bye, Van. Bye. Oh, my gosh, guys. Last episode in Mater for a while. This is kind of sad. All right. We'll talk again soon. I love you guys. Goodbye.