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37: Moments with mere (Part 3)

2022/7/4
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Lex: 这次密歇根之旅是一次治愈之旅,包括拜访朋友和家人,参加Rex Orange County音乐会,以及在湖中游泳等活动,让她感到快乐和放松。她还谈到了她和Meredith的友谊,这种友谊建立在彼此独立的基础上,即使不经常联系,也能保持亲密。她对未来的计划没有明确规划,认为顺其自然就好,并相信生活会将人带到该去的地方。她尽量过着没有遗憾的生活,但如果要说有什么遗憾,那就是在夏威夷待了太久而错过了家人成长的时刻。对于长期的生活冒险,应该事先做好计划,避免因为缺乏计划而导致精神压力过大。她分享了自己第一次恋爱的经历,并强调了母亲的建议:不要让第一次恋爱决定你对未来所有恋爱的期待。分手后,应该将精力放在自我提升上,而不是浪费在不值得的人身上。她认为治愈的标志之一是能够对未来充满期待,并对生活中的不如意保持感恩的心态。治愈的另一个标志是能够平静地看待曾经带来痛苦的事物。人们有时会选择停留在痛苦中,是因为害怕改变和未知,而治愈的过程正是拥抱改变的过程。她和Meredith一起生活时,并没有感到厌倦,反而彼此之间有强烈的依恋感。健康的友谊应该能够在彼此陪伴中感到舒适,即使什么都不做也能享受彼此的存在。 Meredith: 她和Lex的友谊建立在彼此独立的基础上,即使不经常联系,也能保持亲密。她同意Lex的观点,她也因为在夏威夷待太久而错过了家人成长的时刻。她认为在夏威夷期间,她没有很好地规划时间,导致没有优先处理一些重要的事情,例如与朋友和家人的联系。她分享了自己第一次恋爱的经历,这段恋爱因为距离和年龄差距而结束,后来又短暂复合过。她认为结束一段关系时,应该直觉地知道何时该结束;放下过去并不意味着否定过去的经历,而是为新的关系腾出空间。她认为分手后,应该放下对前任的理想化想象,接受现实,才能真正治愈。她认为失败的经历能够帮助人们更好地了解自己想要什么,从而吸引更合适的人。她们共同暗恋的经历让她们更加亲密,尽管这段经历并不愉快。密歇根州最值得推荐的地方是Uncle Ray's冰淇淋店。她认为治愈的标志之一是能够对未来充满期待,并对生活中的不如意保持感恩的心态。治愈的另一个标志是能够平静地看待曾经带来痛苦的事物。健康的友谊应该能够在彼此陪伴中感到舒适,即使什么都不做也能享受彼此的存在。

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Lex and Meredith discuss how their long-distance friendship works without frequent FaceTiming or texting, emphasizing their independence and shared experiences through social media.

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Hello my beautiful people! Welcome back to the Moments Podcast. I'm going to give you a fair warning. This is a drive and pod. This is a moving podcast. So...

Meredith is driving, so if she says anything that doesn't make sense, it's because she's focusing on the road. It's because I'm being a safe driver. And if she says anything that does make sense, it's because she's not focused on the road. Exactly. Oh, by the way, Meredith is on this week's episode of the Moments Podcast. Meredith, say hello. Hello. Meredith is kind of a normal now. I think this is her third time on the pod. This is just as much my podcast as it is Lex's podcast. Yeah, Meredith is actually a co-host.

Founder. Exactly. She just, she, yes. Founder, creator, mother. Yes, she is the mother of the Moments Podcast. On another note, speaking of the Moments Podcast, I met the coolest girl this weekend that is friends with Meredith, and she's like a really sick designer. So if you guys see really sick designs coming soon for the Moments Pod, it was most likely her that designed them. I don't know. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Haven't gotten that far, but it's just an idea. Wanted to put it into her mind.

Anyways, Meredith, what's at the top of your mind right now? Spill. Anything. Um, well, I was thinking, are they going to hear the driving and the, the... Well, I already, oh, I actually did it with that. Yeah, you guys are probably going to hear the driving. Just pretend it's white noise. You're in the car with us. We're all just going for a little drive. We have our Starbucks in hand. Got the Starbucks. Um,

In case you're wondering how I'm with Meredith, since we don't really usually live close together, unless we're in Hawaii, I got super sad last week and I booked a flight to Michigan. And now I feel healed and happy. And yeah, I just had to come see Meredith and her family and her friends and go to a Rex Orange County concert. Honestly, the recipe to a healing weekend. Literally the most cleansing and joyful. And the weather was beautiful. I went in a lake for the first time.

Woo! Lake Girls. Super different getting out of the water, and my hair wasn't salty, but I kind of liked it. It was fresh. Fresh. And I got a sunburn. Yes. Yes. Okay. What I did was I... I feel like Meredith is going to get really sick of hearing my voice today. I don't know why. That's just what I'm picking up on. I feel like I'm listening to a podcast. Oh, really? That is so funny, because... Oh. Oh.

Anyways, I asked you guys on my Instagram story. I hated the way that sounded. I asked you guys on the gram. Ew, ew, ew, ew. I put a question box on my story and asked you guys what to talk about. And a lot of these questions I feel like we've low-key already answered in the 10 million other episodes we've done together. And by 10 million, I literally mean two. Right. But we're probably going to repeat some, and then there's some new ones, and we owe you guys some tea.

Not really even tea. Like, if you haven't figured it out by now, I don't know where you've been. But before we get into the tea, first one is, how does your long-distance friendship work? Meredith, how does it work? Me and Lexi don't FaceTime or call each other. So I really don't know how. No, I'm kidding.

No, I actually don't. We really don't FaceTime. We'll FaceTime. We don't even... We just both don't, like... We collectively don't, like, FaceTime. And we also don't really text each other that much. We'll text each other, like, updates, and then we won't, like, respond, and then... Couple days later... Send each other, like, a TikTok and be like, oh, crap, I forgot to respond. But I feel like that's kind of what makes our friendship healthy. Like, we do so well in our own independent lives. It's not like this friendship where we have to be super codependent, but when we're together...

it's like we were not apart. Yeah. Like, when you came over, I was like, oh, by the way, like, here's some little updates, but I feel like you know it all. Yeah, no, somehow we do. I don't know. Maybe it's because we, like, kind of share our life. Like, I see your little daily TikToks, so I know everything you did

a day you know every single time like she went to yoga yeah i mean it's pretty much the same thing every day so it's pretty easy to keep up it's pretty easy to wonder what's going on yeah we've gotten both into our little home routines which has been so nice i think i've enjoyed it have you enjoyed being home yeah yeah last time we were together we were were we in hawaii last time we were together florida no i was in florida oh but that was like for like an hour

Okay, yeah last time we really like hung out was in Hawaii and it's been holy crap. It's been months now since we left When did we come home? April. It's been two. Okay, it's been almost three Two almost three months since we last recorded a pod together. So now we're both in our routines We're both kind of hanging with our fams and chilling and I might get a cat tomorrow.

Yeah. I think I'm going to name it Rex or Bugs. Bugs Bunny. Or Mare. I was thinking about Mare. Mare Bear. Mare Bear. No, I'm literally not naming it Mare Bear. I hate that name. Yeah, fun fact, don't call her Mare Bear. It just really triggers me. My third grade teacher called me Mare Bear, and I hated it, and then everyone in my third grade class called me Mare Bear, and it was just a collective bully of the name Mare Bear. And then when people say it, I just...

Does it hit the sinks? Okay. Next one we're going to answer is, what are your future plans, Meredith? I pull over. Pull over, sorry. I go listen. Take a deep breath. Listen here, guys. I don't know. And I think that's the most beautiful thing. Yes. To an extent. To an extent. To an extent. Yeah. You don't really know. I genuinely don't know. So if you guys have any ideas. If you have any ideas for what...

Do you guys have any like visions or something like share? I have visions for Meredith and she doesn't want to actually I don't know I think life is just gonna play out the way that it's supposed to and we're gonna end up doing exactly what we're supposed to do I had to pause this I don't because anyways I don't remember what I was saying but I do think that life is gonna take us exactly where we're meant to be and we are here in this moment for a reason even though it's cliche and it's cringy and it's stupid everything happens for a reason

And you are on your path in your moment. Okay. That's enough. But future plans as far as like trips, I'm bringing Meredith on my family vacation. Yeah. Yeah. Woo. Woo. You guys know who else is coming? This is going to be a trip. I'm so excited. Anna is coming. Wait, have you met Anna? No. No. Meredith has not met Anna. No. I'm so excited. Tell me those two would not be a match made in heaven. I'm so excited. Something about like they just have a very similar energy in a way that.

I'm so excited. And just to hang out with your family. Dude, it's so... We honestly, we're so blessed. We have such great families. We do. Keep your family close to you guys. If you have the opportunity to hang out with your family and to spend time with them, do it. Because... Oh, this can actually kind of lead into the next question. Question about, like, regrets. Oh, okay.

Oh wow! Okay. On that note, regrets that I had in Hawaii. And I honestly try to live a life of no regrets, but if there was one thing I- No regrets. No regrets. No Rex Orange counties. What? Oh, true. That did not even- No Rex Orange. That doesn't even make sense. I would say that the one thing I missed while I was gone for so long was spending time with my family because it's really weird to go somewhere for a while

right when my brothers are in the stage of like growing up going from like little baby teenager to big teenager if that makes sense so I came home and like my brother's voice sounded different they were all like built and muscular and they just were taller and they looked like adults and then it just made me sad that like everyone in my family's getting older so moral of the story I missed my family. Mare would you say you agree? Yeah that was you kind of stole my answer. Oh

In a way, I did tell you that earlier. You totally did. And then you said it. But mine's like the same. I totally stole Meredith's answer. It's okay. It's okay. We had the same answer anyway. Oh, no. I totally forgot. What was my answer? I had a different answer. Oh. Oh. Your answer was. Okay. My answer was. Drum roll, please. Oh, my gosh. Okay. That's okay. We're going to forget it. It was a moment. It was a moment. It was a moment. And I would say that I'm not even regretting.

Clearly, I can't focus on being on the road and recording a podcast. Okay, you don't need to focus on the road because I'm focusing on the road. But if you... I would say if you're going to go and do some crazy life adventure or move somewhere for a long time...

make it like a plan because when we first went to Hawaii, we went with the idea that we were going for a month. So in my head, I was going for a month. We ended up staying out there for a year. Therefore, like my mindset just got all sorts of whacked out. And I think that that's why at certain points I got super sad and overwhelmed and stressed and just plan a little bit more, I would say. And that's weird for me to say. So if I'm saying it,

That's true. Just have it like a rough draft. It doesn't have to be, here's what we're going to do every single day. Here's how long I'm going and here's what my goals are. Yeah. If that makes sense. Like, figure out what you want to prioritize. Like, I definitely didn't prioritize the right things. Like, I didn't prioritize, like, texting or keeping updated with, like, my friends and family or, like. We both did that.

Yeah, or just like reading my Bible or like working out or anything that I actually normally would do. I did not really prioritize that. Yeah, we kind of just disappeared for a year. And wouldn't change it for the world. I learned so much about myself and got to like build so many cool relationships. I mean, I got to meet Meredith. So that's hype. That's pretty cool. Actually, no. This girl sucks. Just kidding.

Okay

Probably McDonald's. I agree. Only if they're crunchy. Okay, yes. I agree 100%. And really salty. Soggy fries can literally go far, far, far away. Yeah, I know. I don't trust someone who likes some more potatoey fries. No, if I wanted that, I'd just eat a potato. Exactly. I would just mash a freaking potato and eat it. I can't really think of any other place that actually have good fries. I like Wendy's fries.

I can't say I've ever really like... They're usually pretty good in salt. They didn't leave an impression. Oh, Chick-fil-A fries are so good. They're like the waffle fries. I do love waffle fries. Do you like sweet potato fries? Yeah, those are so good. Those are so good. We should have got... Okay. No. I forgot we were podcasting. Yeah. Last night, we went to Rex Orange County. 10 out of 10 concert. 11 out of 10. If he's coming, 12. 10 out of 10. 13! We start playing the 10 out of 10. It gets real competitive. Okay. Okay.

If he's in your city, I think you should go. You might cry. Meredith cried. I literally freaking sobbed. She sobbed. All of a sudden, I turn around during Best Friend, and there's tears coming down her eyes. Her makeup's dripping everywhere, and I'm like, I knew it was going to happen. Yeah. I didn't think I was going to cry. And then he started singing, and I was like, well, here it goes. It was a concert with really good energy. Also, so many cool people. Everyone in Michigan is cool as heck. I wouldn't say it. I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know what to expect.

But whatever part of Michigan we were in at that concert, everyone was cool. They had the coolest outfits on. The vibes were high. Everyone was just dancing and vibing and like taking cool videos. They're so nice. So nice. Not the traffic. That's okay. That's okay. We have time. Well, my camera turned off. I feel like we've been talking for 20 minutes and we've actually only been recording for 12 minutes.

This might be a short podcast because when I get to the airport, we have to end it. You're like, this is actually the end. I'm like, this is the end. I don't know what to talk about. 444. 444. You know who? Never mind. Stop. I have tea for Meredith only. Meredith's ears. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Also, 10 million thousand questions about when we're going back to Hawaii again. I personally won't ever be living there again, but I will go there for a month in the winter. I agree. Okay.

I second that. I second that. Maybe a couple more months. A couple more months? Yeah. Maybe more than one, but the camera fell. The camera fell. I don't know. We'll see. We'll feel it out. I'll be there however long I'm supposed to be there. Exactly. Everything... I just think that the reason I can't go back out there long term again is because it's a little bit unsustainable for my mental health. And you guys know that. If you've been here for a while, you know the vibes. If you haven't...

It was unsustainable for my mental health and my bank account and my body image. All of the above. That's that. Weird thing that we got was to tell the story of our first boyfriend. So I'm going to let Meredith go because why not? I thought it would be fun. Okay. Fun fact. Okay. It was my first boyfriend, I guess. I was a junior in high school and we talked for like a year and

Kind of on and off. I don't know what I'm talking about. Lexi, I don't know what I'm saying. Can we stop real? I really don't know what I'm supposed to be saying. I don't. Guys, we wanted to find a better time to record this podcast, but we were living in the moment so much that I totally forgot about it. But I would have felt so sad if I left and you guys didn't get to hear Mary, because I know how much you love her. You guys love her literally more than me. Yeah, well.

But basically she talked to this boy on and off for a while and then he sucked. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. So on to better. But that was my first experience and my mom was right because she told me that she didn't want my first boyfriend to set my expectations for the rest of my relationships. And I was like, no, that would never happen. But it did. So if you have your first boyfriend...

You have to know that other love will not be like that. It is just how it's going. And my mother was right, and your mom will probably be right about this boy too. Always trust your mom's intuition. Trust your mom. Especially when it comes to friends and boyfriends. Because they low-key always know what's best. Except my mom has liked some of the boys that turned out to be. My mom hasn't liked a single one.

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Yeah, my first boyfriend story was that we did yoga together. Honestly, if you guys found me during quarantine, you actually maybe saw him back in the day. But before I dated him as a 19-year-old, I dated him when I was 16.

We dated for a couple months. I broke up with him because I just, I couldn't drive yet. Or no, I was 15 because I couldn't drive yet. And we lived kind of far and he was two years older than me. And I don't know, it just scared me a lot. So I broke up with him and then we dated again while I was in college. We dated for like eight months that time. Then I just broke up with him because I don't know. I just didn't really want a boyfriend. You explain yours a lot more effortlessly than I did. Why was I tweaking?

I was just thinking, I was like, I was like, what if he's listening? He's not listening. I don't know. I don't know. My ex-boyfriend's definitely not listening. I'm pretty sure he's getting engaged soon. I don't think he actually is, but he lives with his girlfriend. I'm happy for him. You know, it's one of those things where I just look back and I'm like, I'm thankful that it happened, but it's not one of those exes where I'm like, I would take him back.

I literally would never date him ever again. I think we just went down very different paths in life. And that's a very cool thing. Another thing people asked about was, like, how do you know when to end things? Or, like, how do you get past a breakup? And honestly, if you guys know, like, please let us know. Yeah, like, I don't know. Because I went through, like, a bad, bad breakup. But I would say just take it as a blessing and view it as an opportunity to...

Work on yourself and just give your energy to yourself instead of giving it to someone who clearly no longer is meant to be in your life because life's too short. Life's too short to waste your energy on people who don't deserve it. But snap. And I think if you are questioning if you should end things with someone, it's usually a sign that you probably should end things with that person. Meredith, I'm going to pass the mic to you. Oh.

We're going to try this again. How do you know when you should end things with someone? Well, personally, I should probably take my own advice on this one. Yeah, that's why you got a letter. Right. You just know. When you know, you know. And something that is always hard for me is moving on when, like, I don't want to because I feel like I thought that moving on meant, like,

and that you weren't going to get anything else. And that's not what it is. And moving on is just like, you can still have the memories, but you're allowing room for someone else to come in. That was good. Yeah, I was thinking about that a lot last night. Wait, I actually really like that. Yeah, that's what I was writing about last night. No way. Yeah, because I was like, just because I'm moving on doesn't mean that it didn't happen. Exactly. And that it doesn't mean, like, that's not...

He... What was he saying? Starts telling the whole story. That's for my ears only. Okay. I lost my train of thought. No. It's coming back. It's coming back. It's coming back. Give it a second. Wait. Wait.

I'm trying to like think of what I was writing. We're back in action. We had to pause because we were purged. And the camera's falling. Guys, everything's a disaster. This is such a disaster. Don't podcast and drive. I don't even know if you can hear us. Okay. Meredith's back with her wisdom. Basically, I was saying that...

Moving on. You think that... I don't... I literally don't know, actually. I don't know. Guys, it's actually very hard to focus on, like, what you're doing and advice. But...

She's got a really good point here. With what we did get out of her, she's got a good point. The memories don't go anywhere. And I kind of had this experience recently, too, where I was really hooked on the idea of someone. And, like, the time that we had in this really awesome place where all this... What is the word I'm thinking of? Everything...

Everything was perfect. We were living in like fairytale land. We were living in literally Hawaii. And once that kind of, once we left Hawaii, it kind of all fell apart. And I was like, dang, that kind of sucks. I don't want to let go of that idea. But the thing is, that's not really the reality of my life. And I need to find someone who will be able to be a part of, what am I saying now, Meredith? This is not working out well for us. Basically, when you are moving on...

You have to figure out why you're holding on, like what you're holding on to. And for me, I was holding on to an idea in my head of who I thought they were. And I thought that that was all that I deserved and that's all that I was going to get. But that's not the truth because once you move on from that and let that person be just a little phase...

Then, like... That's when you really heal. You can start to get the things... Yeah, you can start to get the healing and the things that actually will fit perfectly into your life instead of, like...

you know, a temporary thing. Like some things are meant to just be a memory and not everything's supposed to be here forever. We're so young and we have so much life ahead of us that you just have to be patient. And honestly, one thing I find really cool, and I don't know when I learned this or who I heard it from, but like things that don't work out, prepare you so much more for what's next in your life because you learn exactly what you don't want for someone who's in your future.

And, like, also, like, you learn about the traits that you do want and the traits that you don't want. And it just slowly attracts the right person towards you in a way. And I think that's pretty cool. But, yeah, I don't know if anything we said really made sense there, but I think it maybe did a little. Yeah. Yeah. We're, like, convincing ourselves. We're like, yeah, that's, like, fine. We're, ooh, what? We, ah!

moved on. Yeah, no. We definitely moved on. On that note, let's just, I'm spilling the tea with you guys. It's about, it's about damn time. Many people have asked who Meredith and I were both simping over and I feel like we can definitely say it now because literally none of our friends listen to this podcast. So don't you dare go DMing people telling them that we exposed this. Well now that you've said that.

They're going. Guys, please. Come on. Please. If you're here. This is our little private, like, girl talker. This is our safe space. And if I get a screenshot from the person I'm about to tell you that this is, that we both simped over, I'm going to be really pissed and I'm never telling you guys the tea again. And the podcast is legit canceled. I'm canceling the podcast. Guys, no, I'm serious, though. If I'm going to tell you secrets, please let's keep them secrets. Anyways, Meredith and I both. Sorry, wait, wait, wait, move that. Yeah. Hold on. Time out, guys. More, more dilemmas.

Meredith and I both simped over someone. And thank you for coming to the bus. See you next week. No, we were both simping over Jack. Oh, it was so bad. It was so bad. Yeah. And someone also asked us in the question box, like, what was the most humbling experience of your life? Probably Jack.

It's what made us so close, honestly. I don't know how. I literally, it makes no sense. And it is something that I will never understand because in any other situation, if I was ever like liking the same guy as a friend of mine, like I would, I would not, it would not lead to this outcome at all. But it was so weird too, because during the whole time we just had like this thing where it's like, all right, whoever he's going to like, he's going to like.

And then that's what we did. And then it fell apart for both of us. So. It literally didn't work out. It didn't. For a second there. It worked out for you more than me. Okay. It worked out for me for literally barely half a second. Okay. But I. Yeah. That's more than I got.

Okay, well. That's okay. That's okay. What's meant to be will be and it didn't be for either of us. And now we're all just thriving in our own little worlds, doing our own little things. But we just had to put that out there because I cannot see another DM asking which boy it was because I can't think about it anymore. That was like the cringiest period of my whole entire life. And looking back at it, it was like really bad. It gives me the ache for myself. We were, he was, well.

While we both liked him, he did not like either of us. No. At all. Literally was talking to other people. And we were like, oh. I don't even think he knew that we even liked him at all. No, he knew we both liked him. Oh. That's what makes it even worse. I like to pretend like he didn't know to make myself feel better. Yeah, okay. That's enough about it.

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I worked there. Love Uncle Ray's. It has the best ice cream ever. The best ice cream. Yeah, I feel bad, you guys. This podcast is definitely just going to be a bunch of sounds of the road and Meredith drinking ice and every pothole we could find. But things we did in Michigan, I really am so glad I got to experience it because it's cool to go places that you've never been before.

Guys, I'm so sorry. We had to pause again, but I'm back and I'm just saying whenever you have the opportunity to go somewhere new, even if it throws you off your schedule or your everyday routine, if you have the opportunity to do it, just do it. I got into this...

this routine of like stability. It's a cool thing. I like it. But then I had an opportunity to come visit Meredith. And for a second there, I questioned it and I was like, Oh, I could just stay home. Like I could keep going to the gym. I could keep doing the same thing I do every day because I enjoy it. Or I could go do something new and you never regret it.

Even if it like sucks, which it did. Michigan's terrible. I'm just kidding. Just kidding. No, but even if it does suck, not in this case, but if it were another case and it sucked, you always learn a lesson. You always got to say you did it and YOLO. Literally just YOLO. Never say no to an opportunity. I'm trying to look at what else we have here. How to know. Signs your healing. I really liked this one.

But we are getting off the highway, so I'm going to just talk for a second and let Meredith get us there safely. I was like fully...

Oh, she was ready? Oh, she's ready? Okay. We're going to pass the mic. We're going to pass the mic to Meredith. How do you know you're... Okay. I personally really started to feel like I was healing when this is going to sound really harsh, and I know it, but when I was excited to get out of bed in the morning and excited to just see what the day was going to bring me, and it sounds not only cringe, but it also just sounds so like, damn, was I that depressed? And the answer is I don't really know, but...

That's how I felt like I was healing. And I just started to feel more gratitude. Like, even if bad things would happen, I was like, you know what? That's okay. It's okay that bad things happen to good people. Bad things happen to good people. If you're watching this on YouTube right now, the camera has moved over 18 million times. Meredith, how do you know you're healing? I know I'm healing when...

This is like a very specific example. Just give it. But last night at the concert, the Rex Orange County concert, I was crying to songs that I remember. I was like...

There were songs that I would literally, like, sit in my room and, like, cry to or, like, sit in the car and cry to and, like, songs that brought me so much pain. I was crying, like, happy, peaceful tears. Wait, why are you going to make me cry right now? And it just, like, it's when you find peace in the things that bring you pain is when you know you're, like, kind of starting to heal. Oh, literally mic drop. We're ending on that note. That's what I was writing about. I was, like, very just...

Stoked. That is super stoked. No, that's actually really, really cool and such a good way to put it. Yeah. Yeah. When you can finally just like let go of what was hurting you, because I feel like something we do as humans, because we are literally conditioned to do so, is just hold on to what's hurting us because it's what we know. And like a lot of times we will just...

choose to feel sad because we're scared of what feeling happy might be like. And I know that sounds crazy, but it is literally how we're conditioned. And there's a lot more research I used to know on that, but I can't seem to think of anything right now. But I promise it's a fact. We just are scared of the unknown and we're scared of change. So if

Healing involves change. We'll choose to stay hurting in a lot of cases. Because it's familiar. Because it's familiar. And you have to take that step out of familiarity. Is that even a word? I don't know. I think it is too. Just take the step. The unknown is actually very, very beautiful. And you learn so much about yourself during that process. Change is a good thing. Period. Believe it or not. Believe it or not. It's scary. It is scary. The next one is...

Do you get sick of living together? Yeah. I hate Meredith. I'm literally just kidding. I can't even say that for .2 seconds. You can go. I can honestly say that when Meredith and I lived together, I don't think we ever really got sick of each other. I mean, maybe I'm just speaking for myself, but we literally had separation anxiety. No, literally. Because I technically had my own place, but I really only slept at my own place two nights out of the whole time I was there. And those two nights were terrible.

Texted each other the whole night. I miss you. Do you want to come over? But, like, for whatever reason, I don't... We just couldn't. Like, I had to sleep at my house. And, yeah, we had separation. Separate... Yep. Holy crap. We're cut off. But, yeah, Lissette and Meredith both are people I think I could just, like, live with. Because it doesn't take any energy to, like, be friends. Does that make sense at all? Well, we can just sit there in silence. Yeah. I don't feel bad, like...

yesterday when we were just sitting there reading I did not feel bad I was like okay we can just sit here and chill like I don't have to entertain you exactly you don't have to entertain me and that was another thing a lot of people asked you and I don't know if we answered it already but like signs of a healthy friendship I think you should be able to obviously if it's a new friendship that takes some time but like once you've built a friendship it should be comfortable to just do nothing and like just enjoy each other's presence and if you don't then maybe that's like a red flag I don't know

Yeah, like, if you, just hot take. Yeah, if you don't feel, like, if you feel pressure to, like, have to be talking or doing something the whole time, it's fine. Yeah, or just, like, or just, like, not close yet. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We were never like that, but. We never really were like that.

I also just had like a friendship that was built on like the most unique circumstances. I think literally, and it just, it happened to work out. And like, God obviously had us cross paths for a reason because now I don't know if I would, I would function very well without Meredith in my life. I don't even want to think about that. Hi, keep less up. I just said that on ironically, I was like, the road is starting to get very loud. So I think I'm going to cut us off here.

We could probably talk for a while, but I don't know. Meredith is coming to Florida soon, so we'll do an episode in the van there or in the pod... Oh, my God, in the recording studio. Yes, yes, yes. And we'll get into, like, some actual real deep stuff, but hard to do when you're driving. And I only have 10 more minutes with Mare, so... Oh, wait, that... Frick, that made me emo. Anyways, I can... She's like, I could take you back to my house. I could go...

I'm going to go. And Meredith, do you have any last words for the Moments Pods peeps? That's a lot of pressure. No, I don't. I don't have any last words. No last words at all. What do you want from me? Hi, guys. All right. We love you. And we believe in you. And we think you're awesome. And this is like my usual closeout. Okay. Hi, guys. We think you're awesome. Enjoy. Enjoy.

The journey. Enjoy the... I don't know. If you have any better advice, send it our way. All right. We love you guys. I'll talk to you on Monday. There is actually a lot of things I want to talk about, and I don't know if I'm going to post this episode first or after I do an episode on the things I need to talk about that are going on in the country, but we're not getting into that right now. Anyways, I love you. Peace out. Talk to you soon. Bye, queens and kings, if you're in here.