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The World Is Dumping U.S. Assets | Julian Brigden

2025/4/16
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Julian Brigden: 我认为全球投资者对美国资产的投资过度,这导致了一种自我强化的循环。随着美国股市上涨,财富效应增强,消费增加,贸易逆差扩大,这需要通过外国资本流入来弥补。然而,特朗普政府的关税政策旨在降低贸易逆差,这将减少流入美国资产的资金,导致美元走弱,并对美国金融市场造成冲击。我认为美元未来一年可能还会贬值10%,甚至更多。美国股票市场也存在进一步下跌的风险,外国投资者可能会抛售美国资产,将利润汇回本国。 我认为美国政府的关税政策如同地毯式轰炸,而非精准打击。这将导致美国经济陷入滞胀,通货膨胀上升,而实际经济增长放缓。虽然长期来看,这可能有利于美国经济的再工业化,但短期内,这将对美国经济造成负面影响。 此外,我还认为美国债券市场存在风险。如果美国经济陷入衰退,财政赤字将扩大,这将对债券市场造成压力。长期来看,全球储蓄减少的趋势将导致债券收益率上升。 至于黄金和白银,我长期看好其价格上涨。然而,短期内,由于市场已经过度上涨,存在回调的风险。 最后,我认为美国政府可能无法承受美国资产市场的大幅下跌。如果经济形势恶化,他们可能会采取干预措施,但这将产生其他后果。 Jack Farley: 作为主持人,我主要负责引导访谈,提出问题,并对Julian Brigden的观点进行总结和提炼。我没有提出自己的核心论点,而是通过提问来引导Julian Brigden阐述其观点,并对他的分析进行深入探讨。例如,我询问了他对美元走势、美国股市、债券市场以及关税政策的看法,并试图了解他预测的规模以及这些因素之间的相互作用。我还询问了他对欧洲和中国经济的看法,以及他如何解读市场信号。此外,我还帮助Julian Brigden向听众介绍了他的产品MacroCapture。

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Julian Brigden explains that the world is heavily invested in the U.S., with 70% of global equity investments flowing into the U.S. This creates a reflexive cycle where asset purchases underpin the fundamentals that justify their prices. Three economic factors support this cycle: the wealth effect, hyper-financialization (CEOs hiring/firing based on stock prices), and the U.S.'s tendency to import, leading to a current account deficit funded by foreign inflows.
  • 70% of global equity investments are in the U.S.
  • Rising stocks lead to increased consumption due to the wealth effect.
  • CEOs' hiring and firing decisions are heavily influenced by stock prices.
  • U.S. current account deficit is funded by foreign inflows.

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Julian Brigden Co-Founder of MI2 Partners joins Monetary Matters to discuss why the dramatic shift in US trade policy is making non-US investors dump US assets and bring home the profits from a historic bull run in US assets. He also explains why this repatriation of profits coupled with an eventual slowdown in the flow of dollars driven by tariff policy itself spells a weaker dollar and trouble for US financial markets, even if it does result in American reindustrialization. Recorded April 15, 2025.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:53 The Whole World is Overweight the US

09:55 Tariffs Slow the Dollar Flow

17:54 Selling US Assets is Prudent for Foreign Investors

26:42 Who Wins in the US Domestic Economy?

29:56 MacroCapture

34:58 Tariffs Have Been a Carpet-bomb Approach

44:06 Tariffs = Stagflation

49:43 Tariff Effects on China and Europe

54:04 Are Risks Greater in the US?

01:00:13 Will Foreign Markets Outperform on US Weakness or Their Strength?

01:04:32 Bond Market Outlook

01:10:24 Gold Outlook

01:12:50 Reading the Tape to Detect Market Participants

01:18:16 Where is the Trump Put?

01:22:21 America’s Liz Truss Moment

01:25:59 Credit Trades and HYG