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How To Invest Based on Cycles

2022/8/10
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David Stein: 我认为预测三位数回报率的投资服务是危险信号。投资服务视频不允许快进或没有时长显示也是危险信号。经济周期的时间点具有主观性,这使得基于周期进行投资预测存在困难。Weiss Research曾因夸大投资回报而受到美国证券交易委员会的处罚。观察到的经济周期可能仅仅是巧合,并非必然存在因果关系。即使知道事件发生的概率,也可能出现长时间的连续事件,这与经济周期的预测存在相似性。许多独立事件的发生概率是累加的,这解释了巧合发生的频率。一个经济周期是否真实存在,取决于其持续时间、规律性和重复次数。康德拉季耶夫长波理论的时间框架非常主观,难以用于准确预测股市或其他投资。各种经济周期的持续时间不确定,无法精确预测其发生的时间。投资者应该关注投资环境,而非试图精准预测市场周期。 Howard Marks: 投资的关键在于根据市场情况调整风险敞口,而非预测市场走向。投资者的行为可以反映当前市场状况,帮助投资者判断风险,但不能准确预测未来。成功的投资者会根据市场估值、经济趋势和投资者情绪来调整投资策略。成功的投资者能够控制情绪,并根据市场周期调整投资策略。投资成功取决于积极性、时机和技巧,如果时机把握得当,技巧的重要性会降低。投资组合管理主要依靠市场定位和资产选择两大工具。经济周期、公司利润周期和信贷周期等都受到投资者心理和行为的影响。投资组合的定位取决于投资者对市场周期的判断以及对未来市场走势的预期。投资者可以通过被动投资或主动投资来实施其投资策略。主动投资者需要对资产的内在价值有高于平均水平的洞察力。如果主动投资者想要获得超额收益,就必须假设市场上其他投资者的判断是错误的。投资既需要技巧,也需要运气。长期来看,投资技巧比运气更重要。投资者应该关注市场周期,并根据市场环境调整投资策略。投资者应该在市场趋势有利时进行投资。投资者不应该试图精准抄底,而应该逐步建仓。投资者应该逐步调整投资策略,而非一次性大幅调整。投资者不应该因为害怕抄底失败而错过投资机会。投资者应该根据市场趋势进行投资,即使这可能导致短期内出现亏损。

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This chapter explores the claims of Weiss Research regarding market predictions based on economic cycles, including the K-wave, Juggler cycle, and Kitchen cycle. It highlights red flags in their predictions and discusses the SEC's actions against the company for misleading profit claims.
  • Weiss Research's prediction of a market crash called the 'K-Wave'
  • SEC administrative proceedings against Weiss Research for misleading profit claims.
  • Red flags in investment services: predictions of three-digit returns, video players that don't allow fast-forwarding.

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This episode edits and remasters two earlier episodes on investing based on cycles to focus on timeless investing principles.

Topics covered include:

  • What are different types of cycles
  • Why do cycles have subjective start and end dates.
  • Why do coincidences happen so often.
  • How to position investment portfolios based on cycles.
  • How luck and skill play a role in investing.
  • Why it is better to invest based on calibrating risk rather than prediction.

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Show Notes

Weiss Research)

Weiss Research SEC Action)

Foundation For The Study of Cycles)

Fluke: The Math and Myth of Coincidence by Joseph Mazur)

A Spectral Analysis of World GDP Dynamics – Andrey V. Korotayev and Sergey V. Tsirel)

Howard Marks – Yet Gain?)

Mastering The Market Cycle by Howard Marks)

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