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Has the US really given Ukraine more aid than Europe?

2025/3/1
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More or Less: Behind the Stats

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Taro Nishikawa
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特朗普: 我认为美国给了乌克兰3500亿美元的援助,而欧洲给的要少得多,而且欧洲的援助是贷款形式,他们会把钱拿回去。 我的说法得到了数据支持,美国对乌克兰的援助是欧洲的三倍。我们必须与欧洲平衡,因为欧洲提供的比例要小得多。 马克龙: 事实上,我们(欧洲)支付了总努力的60%。我们通过贷款、担保、赠款以及直接的资金援助来支持乌克兰。 特朗普的说法是不准确的,欧洲的援助并非全部是贷款形式。 Nathan Gower: 基于基尔世界经济研究所的数据,美国对乌克兰的援助总额为1220亿美元,其中包括500亿美元的财政援助、37亿美元的人道主义援助和690亿美元的军事援助。欧洲对乌克兰的援助总额超过1420亿美元,其中包括610亿美元的财政援助、140亿美元的人道主义援助和670亿美元的军事援助。 欧洲在财政和人道主义援助方面贡献远超美国,在军事援助方面也接近美国水平。特朗普声称美国援助远超欧洲的说法是错误的。欧洲援助中贷款部分约占33%,而美国约为16%。 Taro Nishikawa: 基于基尔世界经济研究所的数据,特朗普声称美国对乌克兰援助3500亿美元的说法与我们的数据不符。美国对乌克兰的援助总额远低于这一数字。 欧洲向乌克兰提供的援助中,贷款形式的援助比例高于美国。到2024年底,欧洲提供的财政援助贷款为470亿美元,而美国约为200亿美元。欧洲援助中贷款部分约占33%,而美国约为16%。

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This chapter investigates Donald Trump's claim that the US has given $350 billion in aid to Ukraine. It uses data from the Kiel Institute's Ukraine Support Tracker to show that this figure is inaccurate and significantly higher than their recorded amount.
  • Trump claimed the US gave $350 billion in aid to Ukraine.
  • The Kiel Institute's data shows a much lower figure.
  • The actual figure is significantly lower than Trump's claim, even when considering official US sources.

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As negotiations to end the Ukraine war rumble on, Donald Trump seems equally interested in talking about the past, repeatedly claiming that the US has given much more aid to Ukraine than Europe has, and that Europe’s aid took the form of a loan that they’ll be getting back.

Emmanuel Macron has publicly contradicted the US President - so who’s correct?

Nathan Gower speaks to Taro Nishikawa, project lead at the Kiel Institute’s Ukraine Support Tracker to get the true picture.

Presenter / Producer: Nathan Gower Editor: Richard Vadon Sound Engineer: James Beard