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10-3 Hour 4: Murph & Markus talk to Ryan Vogelsong, then talk to Larry Krueger, and close the show

2024/10/3
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Murph & Marcus:巴斯特·波西回归巨人队担任棒球运营主管,引发热议。波西在球员时期拥有极高的评价,回归后将面临诸多挑战,人们质疑他为何要承担可能损害其职业生涯声誉的风险。 Ryan Vogelsong:他和波西之前并没有讨论过波西回归巨人队担任主管的可能性。他对于波西担任巨人队主管感到非常兴奋,并相信波西能够胜任巨人队主管一职,因为波西是一个能够克服任何挑战的人。波西的球场表现和担任主管是两码事,不会互相影响。波西热爱巨人队,并希望改变球队的现状。波西回归巨人队是因为热爱球队并希望有所改变。他只是以朋友的身份祝贺波西,并未讨论工作相关事宜。他愿意在波西需要的时候提供帮助。

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Why did Buster Posey decide to take on the role of head of baseball operations for the San Francisco Giants?

Buster Posey took on the role because of his deep connection to the Giants organization and his love for the Bay Area. He moved back to the Bay Area not specifically for the job but because he loves the region. As a Giant, he felt a responsibility to help shape the team's future and improve its environment. His passion for the team and desire to win drove his decision.

What does Ryan Vogelsong think the Giants need to improve to compete in their division?

Ryan Vogelsong believes the Giants need a combination of developing homegrown talent, making strategic trades, and leveraging free agency. He emphasized the importance of nurturing young players who have shown potential, trading prospects if necessary, and signing impactful free agents to strengthen the team. He also highlighted the need for a strong shortstop and a balanced approach between analytics and traditional baseball instincts.

What is Ryan Vogelsong's opinion on the balance between analytics and traditional baseball in the Giants' approach?

Ryan Vogelsong prefers a balanced approach between analytics and traditional baseball. He believes the Giants under Gabe Kapler leaned too heavily into analytics, but under Bo Mel, they are moving toward a more even mix. Vogelsong values the human element, such as heart, grit, and the eye test, alongside data-driven decisions, and thinks this blend is the best way forward for the team.

What is Ryan Vogelsong's role in the Giants organization, and how does he support Buster Posey?

Ryan Vogelsong is a roving instructor for the Giants and a close friend of Buster Posey. While his specific role under Posey's leadership hasn't been defined, Vogelsong has expressed his full support for Posey. He has offered to assist with minor league insights and provide any help Posey might need, emphasizing their strong personal and professional relationship.

What are Ryan Vogelsong's thoughts on Kyle Harrison's performance and future potential?

Ryan Vogelsong believes Kyle Harrison has the potential to be great but needs to focus on executing pitches rather than worrying about velocity. He noted that Harrison's confidence remained intact throughout the season, despite some struggles. Vogelsong expects Harrison to use this season as motivation and come back stronger in the next year, given his work ethic and determination.

How does Ryan Vogelsong view the performance of young pitchers like Hayden Birdsong?

Ryan Vogelsong is optimistic about young pitchers like Hayden Birdsong, acknowledging that they are still learning at a young age. He believes the experience they gained this season will help them improve significantly in the future. Vogelsong emphasizes the importance of patience with these players, as they are adjusting to the major leagues and facing high-level competition.

What is Larry Krueger's opinion on the potential trade of Brandon Aiyuk for Davante Adams?

Larry Krueger strongly opposes trading Brandon Aiyuk for Davante Adams, citing the age difference and the prime years of an NFL wide receiver. He believes Aiyuk, despite his recent struggles, is a valuable asset, and trading him for an older player like Adams doesn't make sense. Krueger suggests that if the 49ers were to trade Aiyuk, they should target a younger player instead.

What is Larry Krueger's assessment of the 49ers' defensive line performance without Javon Hargrave?

Larry Krueger praised the 49ers' defensive line for stepping up in the absence of Javon Hargrave. He highlighted players like Malik Collins, Kevin Givens, and Sam Aquino, who contributed significantly in recent games. Krueger believes the team will need to continue relying on these players and possibly increase their blitz rate to maintain defensive effectiveness without Hargrave.

What is Larry Krueger's take on Brock Purdy's performance and his standing among NFL quarterbacks?

Larry Krueger considers Brock Purdy one of the hottest quarterbacks in the NFL, operating at an elite level. He highlights Purdy's ability to make the right decisions, run when necessary, and perform consistently despite challenges like injuries to key players and a less-than-elite offensive line. Krueger believes Purdy's leadership and performance have earned him respect and admiration from his teammates and analysts alike.

What is Larry Krueger's opinion on the 49ers re-signing linebacker Jalen Graham?

Larry Krueger is thrilled about the 49ers re-signing Jalen Graham, calling him a terrific player with the potential to make a significant impact. He believes Graham's versatility, speed, and ability to play multiple linebacker positions make him a valuable asset. Krueger expects Graham to eventually showcase his talent on the field and contribute to the team's success.

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Good morning, Seamheads. Murph and Marcus keep rolling. Streaming live at twitch.tv slash the sports leader. All right. Our heat continues. Hot, young thug and gunna. Right up my alley, Tone. Right up my alley. All right. This is fun. Anytime we talk to Ryan Vogelsang, it's a great conversation. Always love it.

And now it's got some juicy, juicy details attached to it because his buddy, Buster Posey, is now the head of baseball operations for the San Francisco Giants. This is the guy who moved to Georgia, started playing golf with Vogue and then said, Vogue, I'm out. I'm going back to the Bay. Vogue's like, wait, we got a tee time. He's like, no, dude, I'm out. So lots of reactions here. Ryan Vogelsang, World Series champ. Always welcome on the Murph and Marcus show. Vogue, dude, good morning. What's up, Vogue?

What's going on? What's going on, man? How about your boy Buster? How about 28? What's he doing? No, he's a stud, bro. He's a stud. We all know that. That's what everybody says. You know, it's crazy, Voguey. Like, the guy has like 100% approval rating with everybody he's ever played with.

Yeah, I mean, president of the Giants today, president of the country tomorrow. We've talked about that, too. He's got my vote. He's got my vote. We've talked about that. Oh, my gosh. Listen, if that happens, all I want is one tea time at Augusta with him. You know what? That could be happening. That could be happening. All right, well, just talk to us about, so when he moved back,

You know, you guys can share the conversations now. Was this something that was even kicked around over a beer on occasion? Like, you know, one day I'm going to go back there and run the ship? Honestly, no. Honestly, no. We talked a lot of baseball, and the job of president came up a few times, and I actually told him, I said, I think I could do that, and he laughed at me. So maybe deep down inside he was thinking, you're not going to do it because I'm going to do it.

So maybe that's why he laughed at me because I was kind of like, what do you don't think I could actually do that? And his response was, you try to beat everybody up. So, yeah. So, I mean, we had conversations about a lot of things, but him actually saying,

telling me that he was looking to do that never came up. So whenever you first heard about it, whether you might have been on the inside, you might have heard about it a few weeks ago or just a couple weeks ago or one week ago, I don't know. What was your reaction when you heard that he was zeroing in on this? I mean, super excited, just like everybody else. I mean, obviously, my relationship with him is a little bit different than everyone else's. And, you know, there's...

Probably even the number of guys that got to share the locker room with him. There's different guys that were just a little bit closer, and I happen to be one of those guys. We're really good friends. My relationship with him is a little bit different. But listen, he's going to nail this. I don't think it's going to be any different than anything else in life. It's going to have its twists and turns, but...

You guys know this about him. If there's a wall in front of him, he's going to figure out how to go over it, around it, or through it. And to me, that's going to bode well for Giants fans and for our organization. And...

I just know that he hasn't failed in anything he's done yet. So we've got to be super pumped about the prospects of what we have in front of us. Yeah, and Ryan, it's something that fans have been asking us a lot lately, even leading up over the last couple weeks of the season when we talked about a potential replacement and if it could be Buster Posey. The question that was asked so often is why would Buster want to do this? He's already got the legacy here with the Giants.

He's going to be a Hall of Famer, we all assume. Why would he do something and step into a position where he could potentially tarnish his legacy? And my answer, Vogue, is plain and simple. He wants to win. Now, what's your breakdown of why Buster Posey wanted to step into this role? Yeah, I question whether if this thing goes south, which I don't think it will, if he tarnishes his legacy. I don't think that happens because you got to separate the two. What he did on the field and the new endeavor he's getting himself into are two completely different things.

But I do know this. He is a giant. When you get drafted by a team and you make it to the big leagues with that team, and then you play for an extended period of time with that team, you are, you become part of that team in that organization. So he's a giant. He obviously was living there, came to Georgia and then moved back. Like he didn't move back because he was going to become the president of the giants. He moved back because he loves the Bay area. So he's,

To me, when you love something and are that connected to something and you're put in a position where you can actually change the environment and get things the way you want them to do, why wouldn't you do that? And I totally feel that's why he did it. He loves the Giants. He is a Giant.

It's great stuff, Ogie. Ryan Vogelsang, World Series champion, of course, roving instructor for the Giants who's been associated with the organization. So what does this team need? Like what if you're Buster and you have the to do list, what what's what does this team need to get? It's not just Vogue. It's not just the Dodgers. You've seen this team in San Diego. I mean, this division, I mean, Arizona just missed the playoffs by a tiebreaker. What does this team need to get into that crowd?

That's a really good question, and one I wish I had the absolute right answer for you because I don't think I do. But I think it's got to be a combination of things. I think we have to be super excited about some of the young guys that came up and performed this year. You know, I think we have to be excited about that because it's been a minute since we've had homegrown guys come up and actually affect the major league team. And I know that the team –

didn't get to where they wanted to be, but these guys put up some quality numbers at the major league level. So we have to be excited about that. So we have to continue to develop homegrown talent. We have to continue developing guys in our system and get them to the big leagues and not just get them there, but be impact players at the major league level. Two, I think you're going to have to make a couple trades and maybe part with a couple prospects that you maybe probably don't want to.

And then, obviously, free agency. So I think it's kind of a three-headed monster, and they all kind of have to blend together. Which one is the most important at this time? I don't have that answer for you. I'll take a four-hitter. What's that? I'll take a four-hitter. Yeah. I mean, I would love a four-hitter, too. Who wouldn't, right? But I'd also love a really, really, really good shortstop because I love Tyler Fitzgerald, but I think he's –

more valuable piece being able to move all over the field and not being stuck as a, as an everyday shortstop. Agreed. That's just, that's just in my opinion. I agree. And Ryan moving forward with the overall team philosophy, and I guess the philosophy of the culture of the giants moving forward, it's interesting to see the different types of success that Busser had under two different systems in San Francisco, whether it was with Bochy winning the world series titles or winning 107 games in

in 2021 underneath Gabe Kapler and Farhan Zaidi. Now you're somebody that played on those World Series teams, but has also worked in the farm system under the previous regime. So what do you think the balance is between the old school baseball mentality and the new analytical approach? Well, I think when Gabe's regime was here, we went real far into the analytics. And now that Bowman is in charge in the dugout, we are swinging more back towards baseball. But again,

Bo Mel wants a very good mix. He wants an even mix. He doesn't really want one outweighing the other, understands how important the baseball mentality is, but also understands that we need the numbers and wants those that gel together in a perfect world perfectly. So, yeah, I'm in much bigger favor of the way it is now with Bo Mel. I wasn't like I didn't.

wasn't on 100% on board with what we were doing before. I just, just, I don't think you can go 100% analytical on anything that you do. There has to be a human factor and you know, the eye test and you have to be able to look at a guy and see if he has some heart and if he has some guts and some grit and the numbers can't tell you that kind of thing. So I think what Bo Mel's doing right now and Brian Price are doing right now with

Trying to blend them together in a perfect world is the way to go. I mean, we're getting reports now from John Shea of the Chronicle that even though Bomell had that great resume, he was still being micro... John Shea said on KMBR he was being micromanaged by Farhan on lineups and even in-game moves. So I know that's an explosive one, Vogue. But if that's the case, that means Bomell couldn't cook, really. He couldn't do his old school stuff.

I'm going to stay mum on this one. I know. I think I would have to say that John Shea is probably barking up the right tree. Okay. There it is. That's Vogue. God, so great talking to you, man. Always love the conversation. I wish we could go longer. We got like three, four minutes left. I want to hit a couple big topics with you, though. Okay. I guess I'll go right to the big one then. Then what's your role going to be? I mean, this is your buddy. So we talked for about a now, I'd say 30 minutes the other night. And honestly, that part of the conversation did not come up. No.

And I called him basically just as his buddy to congratulate him. And I said, hey, I don't want this to be through a text message. I want you to hear my voice, and I just want to tell you congratulations. And, like, I think you're going to kill this. So – and then we ended up talking. We ended up talking about kids and family. And then, you know, he did ask me a couple questions about some stuff in the minor leagues. And then I just at the end of it, I said, listen, no pressure, like –

just understand that you and I, I got your back. We're buddies. I got your back. You can call me anytime. If it's questions about the minor leagues, if it's just event, you know, I'm always here for you. So I, I'm, I wasn't going to put that on him, you know, and you know, eight hours after he got the job. So hopefully eventually we have a conversation about it. If that's the direction he wants to go and we'll have a conversation about them, but yeah,

At this point in time, I just want to support him in any way I can. Very cool. Very cool. We'll leave the door open on that and just see what happens in the future. And then going from that very kind of emotional question to actually a specific question about young pitching. Kyle Harrison was one of those kids. I mean, I don't know. I mean, you know, it was a good year. I don't think it was quite. I don't know. Was his arm tired or like what happened with Harry this year?

Um, I'm not sure. That's a very good question. I mean, I had a bunch of conversations with Harry during the summer and they were all very good. Like at no point in time did I feel like his confidence was, was beat down or anything. Um, that's a good question. You know, I think, I think, uh, I think without him 100% saying it to me, I do feel like the, the velocity drop was bothering him. Um,

So, listen, when we were in town for the 14 reunion, me and Bob actually stood in the dugout with him after the game for about 20 minutes and talking. And one of the things that was reiterated to him was stop worrying about your velocity and execute pitches. And that was coming from the big fella, not so much me. So we were trying to, if it was bothering him, try to get him to not worry about that and just execute pitches. And, listen, he had some really good games.

And I don't think it's a number on a velocity of a pitch that's the answer. I think it's just, for me, it always comes down to execution. You have to look at the pitch locations and the shapes and see if that's what it's supposed to be. If it's a good pitch in a good location and it got waxed, then sometimes you've got to tip your cap to the hitter. You're not going to throw every pitch as a swing and miss.

Just like every bad pitch doesn't get hit over the fence. So the games I watched when he got hit around, it's because the execution wasn't very good. So, and he knows that, but I think, you know, we start looking for reasons why instead of just looking the horse in their mouth and saying, I didn't make a good pitch. And I expect he's a worker guys. He wants to be great. He's not satisfied with the way the year went. And this is just me knowing him in the past, not talking to him, but,

He wants to be great, and he's going to use this season as motivation, and I expect him to come into spring training and go off next year. Yeah. So –

This guy's hungry. He really is. And that's why I got behind him early in his minor league career. I got behind him quick because I could see it. So this guy wants to be great. Yeah, and I think Giants fans have seen flashes of potential greatness with Kyle Harrison. But we also saw some flashes with Hayden Birdsong this year. We'd love to get your thoughts on his first season up at the big leagues.

Yeah, listen, I think this just hit my head when you said that to me. Like, we have to remember these guys are 22 and 23 years old. You know, like, obviously we want them when they get to the big league level to just dominate. But we're in a different call up stage in baseball right now. Guys get run to the big leagues faster than they used to. I mean, before when you would get to the big leagues, you were big league ready.

Now you get to the big leagues and you might not be all the way big league ready. So you're trying to learn on the fly a little bit. And that's hard to do in the big leagues. It's hard to learn on the fly in the major leagues against really good players. And even if you are big league ready, there's still a learning curve. And we have to remember that these guys are super young. So the fact that they pitched the way they did at that age, I think should be more encouraging than it's not encouraging. I think you're going to see both of these guys take a huge step forward next year.

And, you know, listen, you got to love just like Harry, you got to love some of the things that Birdie did. You know, obviously he had some games where it wasn't great, but he's 22. Right. That's a lot of weight to put on a 22 year old kid with, you know, three weeks in the big leagues and you're going into a postseason run. But I trusted him with it. I thought he could handle it because I know him.

It's just a hard place to be at 22 years old. Obviously, you don't want to just say, hey, we've got to give them a mulligan, but I think we've got to give them a mulligan and hope that the experiences they went through this year are going to make them better the next and better even the next.

You're the best, Voguey. We talk to you all day, man. We'll let you go. We'll look forward to the upcoming weeks and months of news, and then we'll hit you back when we want to pick your brain, dude. So go get them, man. We appreciate you. All right, guys. I'm always here. I mean, I don't do – if you ask everyone around here, I don't do anything. What do you mean? I mean –

So keep that phone on, baby, in the golf bag, all right? You might hear it ring when you're on the range, all right? All right. Thanks, Bogey. Ryan Fogle's song is the best. Larry Kruger to finish the show next on the Sports Leader. Hi, I'm Joe Salci. I hosted the Stacking Benjamins podcast. Every week, we talk to experts about saving, investing, and personal finance trends. Oh, crypto. Can't do it. You could have done all that research, all the breadcrumbs, and thought, this company's never going bankrupt. Ha ha!

Foiled again. You never knew personal finance could be this fun. Throwing down the gauntlet. I'm bringing it today. I'm only going to be off by six figures instead of seven. Every boy has a dream, Doc. Every boy has a dream, for sure. Stacking Benjamins. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. Faithful Murph and Marcus keep your morning moving. Streaming live at twitch.tv slash thesportsleader.

We're going with our heat wave rejoins. I'm not a huge fan of this song, Buster Poindexter, Hot, Hot, Hot, but young Tony's like, I need a hot song. I was just, go with that one. So, you know, whatever. Maybe if you like it, hey, get crazy. Go crazy. It's hot is what we're saying. It's damn hot outside. You're not feeling hot, hot, hot, Murph. It's smoking hot, and it'll be smoking hot at Levi's Stadium on Sunday.

Bring your wide-brimmed hats and water, y'all, because the 49ers and Cardinals will be playing in that sun on Sunday. And Larry Kruger will be there, and he'll tell us all about it right now with our weekly hit. You can see him, by the way, on our YouTube and Twitch, the multimedia Larry Kruger. What's up, Krug? What's up, Larry? You know, I was just thinking, as you were saying, maybe Bay Area schools should get out for summer like right now. I know, right? This is our summer. I mean, people know this. If you grow up here, this is our summer.

Krug, this would be like the Giants playoff weather. You go to Candlestick Park when we were kids, the few times they made it, 87, 89, 97, it was warmer at Candlestick then than it was during the summer. No question. No question. Fall weather is awesome. Yeah, a little too hot for me, actually, quite frankly. All right, buddy, what's going on with this team? Well, first, let's just go here.

Because when, you know, Krug, you know, we listened to you for years and you were the king of the trade. You'd be driving around at night. You'd be like, what if the Giants moved, you know, Barry Bonds for, you know, Roger Clemens, 808 KMBR. So, Devontae Adams for Brandon Ayuk, yes or no? No. No. No. No. Did I say that loud enough? No. Come on.

Here's why, Murph. The average prime of an NFL wide receiver is five to seven years, and he's five years older. So you're giving away an awful lot of his prime. I think it just speaks to, like, people are upset with Iyuk. The text line was heavily like, yes, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. People right now, Iyuk's stock is low right now.

Well, there's no question. Iuke is working his way back into shape and he hasn't looked great, but I'm I wouldn't want to trade him away for one. One, you just paid him all the bonus money. So that money's gone. So it doesn't make a lot of sense to trade him right now. But also, I don't want to if I was going to trade him, I'd rather trade him for somebody who's younger. You know, give me Garrett Wilson. You know, give me give me don't give me a 32 year old guy whose best football has already been played. I'd rather I'd rather have, you know, somebody a little younger.

Yeah, and even if you were looking to trade Brennan Ayuk, I think you would probably be looking at a different area on this roster that could need some help. And that spot to me would be the defensive line. Larry, what was your breakdown? I know it was the New England Patriots last week, but the revamped defensive line and their performance against Romandre Stevenson. I thought they looked great. I mean, they held Stevenson to three yards of carry, but it wasn't just that they looked great. It was who was doing it, right? Because there was no Hargrave.

And you had guys step up this last game that are going to need to continue stepping up if they're going to be good. And I'm talking about Malik Collins, who had one and a half sacks. I'm talking about Kevin Givens, who had two and a half sacks.

I'm talking about Sam Aquino, who's a practice squad guy that the University of Maryland, they signed him last December. He had a tremendous game. The rookie Evan Anderson really looked good. So they got they got some help up front, Marcus, from some guys who hadn't been contributing. And if they're going to go forward without Hargrave, they're going to have to do two things. They're going to have to blitz like they did blitz last week.

about a third of the time, and they're going to have to get good performances out of some of these guys that are relative no-names. And I think it's possible, but I do think running back with McCaffrey and his status unknown and defensive line, if they're going to make any trades, I think they're probably going to

It's going to be for one of those two positions. Yeah. And real quick, Larry, I wanted to follow up on that topic of blitzing because the 49ers entered last week's matchup with the lowest blitz rate in the entire NFL. So do you think that was something specifically done by Nick Sorensen just because they're playing against a team like the Patriots? Or is that something that you would like to see incorporated more moving forward?

You know, it's a great question because the Patriots did have a real problem on the left side of their offensive line with a new left tackle, a new left guard. So maybe some of it was due to the fact that their line is so challenged. But I think it has more to do with the Niners and that they can't, you know, without Hargrave, they don't get that push.

And I think they want to mix it up and not give the defense a solid understanding of which four rushers are coming or if there's going to be a five-man rush, if there's going to be a six-man rush. I think this is something, you know, it's like the old saying, if you don't have the guys and you can't play man-to-man on the back end, you play zone. Well, it's the same thing. If you can't get it done with four, you've got to send extra guys. So once Hargrave went down, I think it was kind of a fait accompli that

Sorensen's going to bring extra guys the rest of the year. Yeah, I mean, New England's O-line so bad, it'll be interesting to see how they do against a different O-line, a better O-line. So we'll see this Sunday, 49ers Cardinals 105. Tom Brady on the call. That'll be fascinating for Fox doing his thing. I'm interested, Krug, in your take on the Ricky Pearsall situation. You know, it was exciting that the possibility that he might get activated. He was not.

You know, it gets you to thinking about how serious the incident was on Labor Day weekend. Like, my God, that guy got shot. It's insane. But also just, I was activating him, have what, a three-week window? I don't know if what you're feeling or hearing anything down there.

Well, I mean, this week Murph was the first opportunity to open that window. And once the window's open, they have three weeks to activate him to the active roster on the 53, or they put him on season-ending IR, and essentially he's out for the year. So, you know, I just think they want to take their time with this. I will say this. I mean, I've seen Ricky walking around without his shirt. I don't see any marks on his chest, on his back. I don't see –

any bullet hole, bullet wound. I mean, it's amazing to me. But at the same time, he was asked about the shoulder. Kyle was asked about, is the shoulder still a problem? Kyle said he was over the shoulder injury before the attack. So it's not the shoulder. They're just taking extra precautions. And I do think you'll see him probably next week. I think they're just being extra conservative. Moving forward to this weekend's matchup against the Cardinals,

I'm curious from your breakdown, Larry, what's the number one matchup you're looking at, whether it's Kyler Murray using his legs, whether it's James Conner against that defensive line, Marvin Harrison Jr. on the outside, or Trey McBride, who sounds like he's coming back this weekend. What's the number one matchup you're looking for against the Cardinals offensively?

Well, I just think it's Kyler. I mean, I just think that if you're going to beat them, you got to somehow not just rush Kyler, but you got to stay very disciplined in your rush lanes against Kyler. He's only averaging four rushes per game so far, and he's only averaging 41 yards per game.

But you guys, we all know Kyler could bust the Niners for 100 yards. I mean, he could have 30, 40 yards in one run. So you've got to rush him and stay in your lanes and make sure you don't give him a true avenue. I think that's number one. And then, you know, if you can't stop Connor, it's going to be a long, long day. And he's a load. So you've got to bring multiple hats to the party, and you've got to gang tackle Connor. So I would say those two.

If you could shut down Connor and you can shut down Kyler's running, I think you got this team beat. I mean, you'd like to think they've beaten the Cardinals four in a row, but it's just always a division game or weird. It just gets weird. So they got to take care of business, get over 500 going into the Seattle game for sure.

Just a quick word on Brock Purdy. I was driving in this morning real early, Larry, and listening to Dan Orlovsky, and he was talking about the Bucs game tonight, Bucs-Falcons, and he was saying, Baker Mayfield's playing better than all but two quarterbacks in the league. And I was driving going, oh, cool, here comes some Brock Purdy love. He said, Sam Darnold and Geno Smith. And I was like, wow. I mean, I understand Geno, you know, the Seahawks are 3-1. He had a nice night Monday night. But I was like, bro, I mean...

Brock Purdy, to me, I think he's like top five, right? He's playing at an elite level right now, in my opinion. What's your opinion? Well, there's just no doubt. I mean, there's no doubt. We can talk. I mean, I could sit here and if he gave me 10 minutes, I mean, I could put together a statistical case that would make an argument that he's the hottest quarterback in the game right now. I mean, not only is he doing all this stuff, you know, holding the ball, you know, second in the league and passing yards and

making the right decision, running when he should run. There's an incredible, I just tweeted out, Chase Daniel did an incredible breakdown of some of the key plays in the game against the Patriots. But to me, where Brock's really special is the fact that he's operating behind a line that is not

That's not one of the top NFL lines. And he's been doing it at times with no Debo, no CMC all year, no Kittle at times. And he hasn't missed a beat. I mean, he has not missed a beat. And if you if you're around this team, you know, you go into that locker room to a man. I mean, these guys have this love, admiration and respect for Brock Purdy, not just the person that he is, but the player that he is.

And, you know, you hear guys like Fred Warner say, man, this guy's elite. You know, this is our guy. He's the best. Stuff like that. Richard Sherman, he knows a little something about football, saying Brock Purdy's elite, an elite quarterback. So, yeah.

you know, I've been all in really since the beginning on this guy. But I do understand why people had the reservations. He doesn't come in the same packaging as a lot of the six, five, 225 pound quarterbacks that are out there. So I get it, but,

I mean, at what point do you throw away draft position and just say, I'm going to acknowledge what I'm watching with my own two eyes each and every Sunday? You know, it's like I'll defer to my what I'm seeing on Sunday over his Mr. Irrelevant draft position. Yeah, and that's the thing, Larry. Everybody has an opinion on Brock Purdy, but not everybody has an opinion on Jalen Graham. Larry, that's a name that we talked about this summer. I need the Larry Kruger breakdown on the Niners poaching back Jalen Graham to the squad.

Well, you know, Marcus, they had a bunch of injuries, but they never should have let this guy get out of the building. He is a terrific player. And it sounds a little hollow right now because he's gone from practice squad with the Niners to practice squad with the commanders to now being on the active roster buried on the depth chart. There's going to come a day where this guy is going to get on the field and people are going to see what I've seen, what I'm seeing, what I saw when I saw him at Purdue, um,

Guys like Fred Warner, Fred's like, man, that's my guy. You know, I'm so glad he's back. I was really sad when he left. The Niners didn't want to lose him at the cut down, but they just got caught up in a numbers game. They went with Flanagan Fowles and Campbell. Now Campbell's struggling. Flanagan Fowles is dinged up. Curtis Robinson's done for the year. Fred Warner's dinged up. They need more linebackers, and this guy's fast.

He's explosive. He can play all three spots. He can play the Mike linebacker and wear the green dot and call the defense. I mean, he's a really, really good player. So we haven't seen it out there yet. Eventually you will, and then we can have a real conversation once he starts putting together 10, 12, 13, 14 tackle games. I know. It's exciting. I'm glad they were able to pinch him back. All right. Well, they've got to take care of business this weekend. The D-line has to answer the call. Brock's got to continue to do his thing, and we'll see what Iuke does. I will just hit for fun, Larry.

Before we let you go, give us that. We threw the line at overrun because IUK's numbers have been underwhelming, right? And there's a number of reasons. We can get into defenses and conditioning, but what do we have? Four and a half catches over-under. And then just for fun, we went 69 yards just so we could say pause. 69 over-under yards. What do you say? You know, the yards is maybe a little on the high side, but as far as I'd rather that number be in the 50s.

But you know what? I'll say this. He's rounding into form. If you watch him every day, you can see him getting better, a little bit better every day. I thought this last game he looked the most like himself and most like he did a year ago. I think you're going to see him continue to round into form, and I like the over on both those. There it is. All right, Krug, always fun, buddy. Have a great weekend. Have Niners nightly tonight. Tomorrow night we'll be listening. And have a great weekend, dude. Yeah, thanks, Luke.

You guys do the same. Larry Kruger, he'll be the man. Beat the Heat. We got one last region. I finally came up with a great region on the other side. So, all right. Well, listen, we're getting close now. Tomorrow's Brian and Bobby's best bets. Will you go to the Niner game? I don't know. Seven point spread. And by the way, I'm declaring it's comeback October. It's comeback after an early September. We're just getting just absolutely battered by the college landscape. Locking in. We're

We're locking in. Don't miss it tomorrow morning. The return of Saturday Murph. Don't miss it. The return. By the way, in honor of the game day going to Berkeley and the early Bart trade. Bart adjusting their schedule for game day. The power of Lee Corso. Anyway, we'll do what young Tony had to learn today and had some fun on the other side. Hand it over to Papa in London. KMBR 104.5 and 680. These sports later.

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All right. I mean, it's got me dancing over here, Murph. Let me tell you what. Young Tony, you know Too Hot by Kool and the Gang, right? You know this group. It's just one of the smoothest grooves imaginable. And I'll tell you what about, guys. I got news for you. If Kool and the Gang comes to play in your area, go. I've seen them twice. Both times they just destroyed the place. So I'm hoping for Van Halen. Whoa.

I was there with Paul. I said, Paulie, I said, Van Halen's got to answer this set. I mean, Kool and the Gang came out and laid it down. That's one hell of a pairing. And then the Edgewood, I know. David Lee Roth wanted it. He's like, give me Kool and the Gang, man. Anyway, thank you. It is too hot out there, right? It's too hot. Too hot. I played 18 holes of golf yesterday. Shout out Coach Jim, Coach John, Coach Eric and the crew. I know, right? Dude, we walked. There were other people out there in carts. I'm like, get out of the cart. Start walking. But let me tell you what. At the end of 18, bro, whoo.

The sweat. I had sweat. The sweat. I don't know if it was the fabric of the shirt I was wearing, but by the time we finished up and I dried off, there was like salt stains all over the shirt, dude. It was a bad look.

But anyway, shout out to anybody who's staying cool in this hot weather. And shout out to the people who are working outdoors, not just like us local yokels who are sitting in an AC studio right now. So much so I had to put my little quarter zip on. I came in short sleeves to represent the heat wave, and our AC was blasted.

Yeah, it's funny. My dad's biggest pet peeve, he's a former city worker. He used to complain about Lamont and Tonelli, complain about how hot it was outside. He's like, these guys are sitting in an air-conditioned studio. I'm out here working the streets. He's not wrong. Yeah, he's right. He's not wrong at all. So shout out to everybody actually enduring the heat. There you go, man. Okay, Young Tone.

Time for something new today. Actually, today's is interesting because I think it's something we all learned together. Yes. Lerp and Marcus want to know, what did young Tony learn today? Well, so the joke is he's very, very young and innocent. Hey, I know that now, okay?

Okay, so we were going to go with, you know, I turned him on to Billy Idol this morning, hot in the city. I was like, hey, you should explore Billy Idol. He's like, yeah, but more important, I learned something more today. And I said, what's that? And you learned what today, Tony? That it is? Today, October 3rd, is National Taco Day. That's something I learned today, too. You learned it today. We all learned it together. You know, these national days are kind of goofy, but the point is, this links to the 49ers.

Because Brock Purdy's blowing up. He's not just putting out great numbers. You heard Larry Krueger say he can make a case he's the best quarterback in the game right now. But he's also now blowing up as a Toyota spokesperson. It's October 1st. I stand corrected. October 1st, but we're going to play this now. Still a huge deal to the audience. Don't let facts get in the way of a good story. Anyway, Brock Purdy is blowing up with his Toyota ads. And his latest one features...

Tacos, storage in a Toyota. So now here's the catch. We have on YouTube and Twitch now the ability to stream video. We're talking about blowing up. Brock Purdy's not blowing up. We're blowing up. So go to your YouTube and Twitch, and we're actually going to air the commercial right here in honor of National Taco Day. Young Tony learned. Here's what you can do with your tacos. Hey, guys. With it being National Taco Day, I wanted to show you some of my favorite things in my Brocco taco. I love how you can keep a taco just about anywhere in here like this.

And this one's great for easy access when you're on the trails. Now I checked and we did the math and we can sit about 20 in here. And you can put that extra storage to good use. And it wouldn't be a taco day without chips and salsa. This taco day, you know the obvious choice.

Brocco Taco. Dude, check out my Brocco Taco. By the way, if you weren't watching the video, if you were stuck in your car radio, he was lifting up little panels around the car and revealing tacos stored in the storage. My guy had secret stashes of tacos, Murph. And he says he did the math, and I believe him. He didn't have a handler do it. He did the math. He could fit 20 in the main armrest where you're driving, you know, to the right. He's got 20 tacos in there.

Live tacos. By the way, shout out the cleanup after the eating 20 tacos. I mean, my guy had chips and salsa in the cup holders, Murph. Yeah, it's a little dicey. It's a little messy. A little dicey. I'm more of a burrito kind of guy when I drive. Well, I got to tell you guys, yesterday I was starving because I was going to go play golf and I wanted to get some nutrition in. And you guys told me, don't sleep on Gambino's across the street. I tell you what, what a menu. They got it going on in there. It looks pretty good. Oh, it's a great spot. I've been sleeping on Gambino's because I always head to the garage.

They have tacos in there? Because they got burritos. I know that. Oh, I know they have breakfast burrito. Maybe some breakfast tacos. Now, how do you feel about the breakfast taco? I love a breakfast taco. Yeah, yeah. I'll make them at home. Okay. Grill up some chorizo, throw a couple eggs in there. I'm good to go, man. Who's anti-taco? Nobody's anti-taco. The only man who never got his taco. Shout out Spencer Burford. Tacos didn't come. Oh.

Tacos didn't come, but Brock Purdy did. Do you have a taco spot here in San Francisco? Oh, El Farolito is my taqueria of choice. We have one around the corner up here and one down in the Mission. That's my go-to taqueria. You'll go in there, but you don't get it. You get tacos instead of burritos? I am more of a burrito man. When I was a younger kid, I was obsessed with tacos, but now that I've become the water man myself, I'm a burrito guy now. Young Tone, you got a taco spot?

Oh, Taco Bell, obviously. Get the hell out of here, Tony. There's a taqueria in San Luis Obispo that's phenomenal. But do you get tacos or burritos? I'm a taco guy. Lately, I've gone to the burrito, but I was originally a taco guy. No, LA is known as more of a taco town. I was going to say, I'm more of a street taco guy. If I get tacos on the street, I'll take that over a bacon-wrapped hot dog. Damn, I want one right now. I'm hungry. All right, guys. Well, there you go, young Tony. You learned it. We all learned it. Congratulations to all of us. And that

And that was sponsored by Bigelow Tea. Grab a mug and tea proudly. Okay, tomorrow John Lynch will join us. We'll talk to him about Ricky Pearsall. We'll talk to him about Christian McCaffrey. We'll talk to him about trying to beat the Cardinals. We'll talk to him about a lot of people have compared Buster Posey to him, including Steve Young did. So talk to him about that. Has he reached out? You know, how a popular Hall of Fame-level player can adjust to that.

Yeah. And John Lynch and Buster Posey can talk about how the Giants can be the Padres. Yeah.

yeah and well believe me yeah i wonder if johnny lynch is is losing his mind because that san diego out of control john lynch might have been out there yesterday singing all the small things he might have been singing and he probably says work sucks when he had to deal with the brandon iu contract right works contracts suck they're having too much i know they're having too much fun down there i am straight up jealous of how much fun they're having down there all right time to hand it over to papa and lun sponsored by speedy oil change and auto service

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