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Barbara A. Biesecker, "Reinventing World War II: Popular Memory in the Rise of the Ethnonationalist State" (Penn State Press, 2024)

2024/12/13
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Miranda Melcher:访谈围绕二战在美国的记忆重塑展开,探讨其在特定历史时期以特定方式重新出现的原因和影响,以及与当代政治文化的关联。 Barbara Biesecker:本书研究了二战记忆在美国的重塑过程,特别是20世纪80年代中期以来,二战记忆如何被重新利用以恢复美国社会的新平衡。作者分析了多个案例,包括史密森尼国家航空航天博物馆的“埃诺拉·盖伊”展览争议、电影《拯救大兵瑞恩》、汤姆·布罗考的《最伟大的一代》以及美国大屠杀纪念馆。作者认为,除了美国大屠杀纪念馆外,这些对二战“美好战争”的重新诠释在修辞上起到了恢复强烈的民族认同感的作用,并与新自由主义民族主义议程相适应。通过追溯二战流行记忆的重塑与民族国家幻想之间的联系,并运用福柯、德里达、拉康等人的理论,作者解释了“让美国再次伟大”运动的兴起,并关注公众记忆塑造和挑战民族认同的力量。 Barbara Biesecker:本书的理论贡献在于强调“大众记忆”的重要性及其在塑造民族认同中的修辞作用。作者对档案的解读借鉴了德里达的解构理论,将档案视为一系列痕迹,而非具有确定意义的符号,并探讨了档案如何授权特定的政治和治理模式。作者认为,20世纪末美国身份认同的危机是二战记忆重塑的背景,冷战的结束、后福特主义或新自由主义的经济和文化危机加剧了这一危机。二战记忆的重塑旨在解决这一危机,重建美国的民族认同。 作者对“埃诺拉·盖伊”展览争议的解读并非简单的审查制度问题,而是对二战记忆的重塑,以适应新的民族认同。二战纪念碑的建造地点和方式反映了对二战记忆的政治操纵和国家想象的重塑。电影《拯救大兵瑞恩》等流行媒体塑造了一种特定的二战记忆,服务于新自由主义和民族主义议程,通过强调个人牺牲来对抗身份政治,并促进一种适合新自由主义民族国家的公民身份认同。作者担忧将二战视为一个完全理解的事件,而非一个需要持续探索和理解的事件。美国大屠杀纪念馆是二战记忆叙事的例外,因为它质疑了美国在二战中的完美形象,揭示了美国在二战中的一些不光彩行为。作者认为,对二战记忆的研究有助于理解当今的政治文化,特别是“后真相”现象,并正在研究“项目2025”,以探索“后真相”现象与其他政治努力之间的关系。

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Why did World War II re-emerge in US popular culture in the mid-1980s after being largely absent for decades?

World War II re-emerged in US popular culture in the mid-1980s to address a crisis of national identity. The end of the Cold War removed the external antagonist that had unified the nation, leading to internal conflicts and a sense of fragmentation. World War II, particularly a sanitized and heroic version, was used to restore a strong sense of national identity and belonging, fitting the neoliberal nationalist agenda.

What was the Enola Gay controversy, and why was it significant in the re-emergence of World War II in US popular culture?

The Enola Gay controversy in the mid-1990s was a significant event where the Smithsonian's planned exhibit on the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was canceled due to conservative pressure. The controversy highlighted the struggle over how to remember World War II. The exhibit's cancellation and the subsequent sanitized version demonstrated how a particular version of World War II was being promoted to align with a nationalist agenda.

Why was the World War II Memorial built between the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial, and what does this signify?

The World War II Memorial was built between the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial by changing and then re-enacting a law that prohibited building in that area. This placement signifies the central role of World War II in the national identity, making it the nodal point that sutures together the nation's historical narrative and identity.

How does the film 'Saving Private Ryan' contribute to the reimagining of World War II in US popular culture?

Saving Private Ryan contributes to the reimagining of World War II by teaching the art of personal abstraction, a form of citizenship that discounts particularities of self to belong to the collective 'we' of the nation. The film's portrayal of the male body in pain serves to discount other forms of injury and turn attention away from systemic asymmetries of power, aligning with a neoliberal sensibility.

Why does the author find the reimagining of World War II concerning, and how does the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum differ in its approach?

The author finds the reimagining of World War II concerning because it turns the war into a simplified, understood event that can be deployed as a manual for action today, rather than a complex event that still has lessons to be learned. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum differs by challenging the exemplarity of the U.S. during World War II, presenting moments where the U.S. was complicit in the tragedy, and engaging visitors in critical reflection rather than a controlled narrative.

How does understanding the reimagining of World War II in the 1990s help us make sense of today's political climate?

Understanding the reimagining of World War II in the 1990s helps us see the roots of today's political climate, characterized by post-truth and the remaking of the state's infrastructure. The discourse that emerged then, expropriated from the left and used by the right, is being reconfigured for a new moment, highlighting the continuity and evolution of these political strategies.

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This chapter explores the resurgence of World War II in US popular and political culture starting from the mid-1980s, after a period of relative absence. It sets the stage for exploring how the "Good War" was retooled to address a perceived crisis of national identity and belonging.
  • World War II's re-emergence in US culture in the mid-1980s
  • The book's focus on the rhetorical phenomenon of World War II's remembrance
  • The author's personal experiences with the Enola Gay exhibit and Saving Private Ryan as initial catalysts for the book

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By the 1970s, World War II had all but disappeared from US popular culture. But beginning in the mid-eighties it reemerged with a vengeance, and for nearly fifteen years World War II was ubiquitous across US popular and political culture. In *Reinventing *World War II: Popular Memory in the Rise of the Ethnonationalist State) (Penn State University Press, 2024), Dr. Barbara A. Biesecker explores the prestige and rhetorical power of the “Good War,” revealing how it was retooled to restore a new kind of social equilibrium to the United States.

Biesecker analyzes prominent cases of World War II remembrance, including the canceled exhibit of the Enola Gay at the National Air and Space Museum in 1995 and its replacement, Steven Spielberg’s Saving Private Ryan, Tom Brokaw’s The Greatest Generation, and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. Situating these popular memory texts within the culture and history wars of the day and the broader framework of US political and economic life, Dr. Biesecker argues that, with the notable exception of the Holocaust Memorial Museum, these reinventions of the Good War worked rhetorically to restore a strong sense of national identity and belonging fitted to the neoliberal nationalist agenda.

By tracing the links between the popular retooling of World War II and the national state fantasy, and by putting the lessons of Foucault, Derrida, Lacan, and their successors to work for a rhetorical-political analysis of the present, Dr. Biesecker not only explains the emergence and strength of the MAGA movement but also calls attention to the power of public memory to shape and contest ethnonational identity today.

This interview was conducted by Dr. Miranda Melcher whose* new book*)* focuses on post-conflict military integration, understanding treaty negotiation and implementation in civil war contexts, with qualitative analysis of the Angolan and Mozambican civil wars.*

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