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Alright, coming up on this episode, we we got a great episode, if you know that traf, we ve got a great epo de.

We always have a great episode.

Well this was going to be special. I one of us broke an nfl record. Well, a travel's Kelsey record um well not an nf record. We'll get into that. We're going to break down both of our week five nail bites, look at some coaching changes around the league, and we'll see if we've made the cortege. C too powerful.

Not so much a sneak anymore. Yeah, not very sneaky.

It's just the courter back shove. The court to back law.

No more him sneaking. It's everyone just pushing a forward.

It's that time again for new news.

new news.

new news. Well, actually old news. We are still the number one sports podcasts in the world, especially on spotify, I think, and actually .

might only be on spotify.

but were called at the world touch right now. We fire. But so a week you guys are really too.

Thank you. So appreciate, appreciated so much to spend so much fun.

Well, officially, I think two weeks ago, I guess that makes us podcast prose. No, shut out. Shut out. Here you .

will we get part.

get got no, shut out. During the eagles cardinals games, Robert Smith and Chris mires in the booth with this quote, imagine that household in clever height to travis and Jason. They must have torn that place. All is that accurate?

The old, healthy complex.

We've already touched on the whole, the floor from a power bomb. What else do we tell up to what the multiple catch doors had to be?

One hundred person, one hundred .

percent windows glory.

The government, the garage were like the backstop for every single sport that we played. IT was also like the goal at times whenever we were planned, like hockey. Remember using IT as a just hidden the tennis ball off the ground like I was. Enjoy ogc y or something.

Yeah, we're like practicing pitching and full on just going straight into the side of IT IT was dipped more than a provi one you know I I mean nothing had some holes in IT yeah but i'm then the house somehow made IT through um the we actually one .

of one of the game changes was mom dad went out and got storm windows for the basement because of ice black windows. Yeah train break those .

break yeah parly proudly is a way, but we never found a way I to break those. We also move the many sticks down into the basement when dad made the many stick arena, he was like, okay, guys done playing .

upstairs.

where balls are just flying everywhere. We're going to create an arena with plywood walls and a carpet on cement floor.

Couldn't do IT now. Couldn't not do that. Now you imagine that .

on your knees playing many people in the playwood on concrete.

I never given splinters. Ers.

from the, from the wood. Yeah, well, yeah. So splinters .

in rasberries on the news.

Great house. Miss every second of that.

Well, so much fun. But yeah, we we torn down. And then dad finally put IT back together and sold IT to a beautiful family.

Looks great. I actually rote past IT last time and IT looks fantastic. So I just walked.

We didn't .

burt IT down.

yeah. And the people that took IT over there are really good jobs. So, uh, kudos to them for not turning to apart like we did, right. We guess some fair comments. Quick question here from Brandon Miller.

What's the chatter like between opposing players throughout the game is a friendly competition or all out trash talk? I realized it's probably different from week to week. But overall, i'm curious .

men you want to touch on .

IT IT changes .

player to player you to know I think a lot of the bigger games like if it's like this past week against the raters, huge rivalry, divisional opponent guys, you're going to be yup and you mean it's personal, you know um I think a lot of the cross conference games are more of just like respect and keep IT moving unless you have like some sort of history with like a guy across the ball for you mean but for the most part, i'm not talking snake until I hear somebody else. He happened at me and then i'm going to go ahead, let them know him here yeah .

I think I think you to know I think a lot of IT depends on the week you're playing in. And it's kind of different from player to player, team to team how the games go on if it's a physical game. And i'm usually a oh my gosh, what's what i'm looking for retroactive trash talker.

Meaning if you are kind of just going by doing my business, but if if you're going to try talk me, we're gona do this. I think I should talk born trash because that makes me angry. And nine thousand and one ten, I play like way Better like I use that anger and IT becomes a very productive type of anger. So maybe I should do some more that .

yeah i'm if I see a guy talking shit to me and I don't even know the fucker is that fuck that is be talking go on more than anything yeah especially if, especially if makes a good player like shut me down on a player does something .

to make look Better even the good point I can't listen. And the problem is i'm not created with IT. I go to your basic four letter words that everybody knows like, i'm not going great.

That wall easy. This is a family show. We we also go to a colon guys bombs.

I don't know why that's like a big, I think, bomb, get A A bomb like that. I like that. I feel like it's an underrated term.

A D.

the what position groups talk the most trash to me? I think it's without .

question bent.

Why do you think that is? Why are dbs the biggest stress? Dockers, so because their job is so hard.

Ah you think they have the hardest job?

Dbs.

yeah.

are you that you you don't think A D, B is the hardest japanese a film? What's a hard of job? Maybe Carter beg, maybe you can give in corpora.

G, i'll say corner back. I'll say center, if you're like a two hundred and sixty pounds center.

Did you got to meet somebody throughout the whole feet that you playing cover one? Is that what's harder than playing cover one? And just staying in somebody y's here and you can give up a yard's separation, otherwise a completion.

I know. Is that heart? Yeah, no reaction. yeah.

The good ones. The good ones. The I was in high school. good.

It's so good. It's so good that White people can even do IT like that's how you know it's the hard test position. They don't even let White guys try to play corner back anymore like they you're done. It's too hard to a position. It's too physically demanding.

And his funny, his own yeah you're right. That point alone IT is IT is probably yeah he's the less of direct ment. I think there .

was another guy of place like a year two ago, but that's why you know .

that we don't know he doesn't count.

H, yeah, the point wasn't.

just see what .

I wanna see you, I am attacking him.

Fish, fish is we're going .

to see if this guy.

I have seen this, he stands out like a highlighter over there.

I have to this at twenty years. We're going to find out if this game works still.

But we compete right there. Now moving onto the twelve bold topics to wrap up. Wep five in the nfl, starting off with out both of our games. This is how we do at IT of questions about our topics about jesson's game. He does the same for my game and Jason go ahead and jup a sole men.

Well, I think the first topic is gotto be what happened last night or on monday night. This is is wednesday big monday night performance. Go the kansas city chiefs, uh, thirty to twenty nine. Um IT was not a pretty start, but you guys found a way to get that done.

Seventeen nothing is a very comfortable situation to be in and that's where we were early on.

But yeah, what did you have anything to say initially about the game?

I mean, obviously, we're still growing as a team finding out who's a how how we move together, how we how we keep growing throughout the season, throughout the the games and um being put in adverse situations are finding a way to come out of IT and have success and win a football game even if it's not pretty.

You know that builds that builds so much in the in terms of being in the locker room and um just the confidence in the chemistry that you have with the guys around you. I couldn't be happier how we all handle that entire game once obviously once we started slow and everything, once we get the ball role and everything on offence, our defense played their tails off um against a very good offence and really just all around a good team for the readers men. We knew he was going to be a dog fight.

We know those guys. It's one of the most a legendary rivalry in in football， and i've been fortunate enough to play IT year. And you're out and feel how the fans get excited for how the the how the organizations get excited for IT. Um and I just love plane in a man and it's a dog fight every single time um guys are getting everybody's playing in their tail off everybodys playing physical football. I mean, it's at the end at the end of every single raters game and i'm i'm feeling IT a little bit more um on the on the right home. So there was a fun one, men and obviously if you know four touchdowns, but so much so much to be said about how we got to the red zone you know was IT was a showcase of everybody get in a piece of the pie um all of our wide receivers, all of our running backs go in downhill um and then patch just finding ways to to you know get the ball in the end zone to me IT was IT was just all around fun game men, fun game and a competitive game.

Yeah seventeen zero was what you guys find yourself down up into the second quarter and i'm not going to like that. The atmosphere was very low.

Watching was very IT looked like .

you guys had been surprised, shocked um and they caught I mean kudos of them they started off really, really hot and then you got down seventeen nothing pack its sack, jj drops a ball uh and then you guys come up with a big down third down .

conversion to enhued their down no this is .

that next is the series that you guys scored your first touchdown okay, you guys you started off that series IT wasn't looking good again and all of a sudden jack min n bust out an enormous on jet twenty ards and IT looks like you guys that's all you guys needed. You needed just a little Spark who's talked about that before, like body language mamani m is in a real thing.

Yeah, I think you guys got a nice little juice a little bought right there. And the rest of that drive was awesome. You has really finished IT are strong. And then immediately following that drive, you have the roughly in the passer call against Chris Jones. Yeah, not the best one i've seen.

Believe I do not rough in the passer when you have the ball bit. That's I don't know.

But I know that after that call, that stadium was electric. I mean, I would have hate to be one of those officials.

They were live in that moment. Men, airhead is rocking like that. And we're put up points in. And you mean the energy in the momentum all on our sideband? That is that's one of the best feelings that you could ever have as as as a football player.

Man, when you know you've got the entire place, just rock in and you're just making play after play, after play. And the other team just feels like they can do much about IT. Man, I love that feeling, man, and arrow head was shaken. I'll tell you what even gives me gives me more fired up as when you see big read screaming on the sideline, tell the red me you don't .

IT doesn't like that often you don't see that, especially with officials so when he's doing that.

you know it's something big yeah and for the most party, he doesn't a rim. He doesn't want to scream them and yellow, he just wants, he wants to hear why you call IT. why? Explain yourself, son, explain yourself.

And seeing him getting fired up on the sideline, that is, that is what he does is just amps everybody's attention, just awareness, just the wanted, a weill and and honestly think, man, that that whole seem of events that you just named right there, that that really got us playing with more energy, playing with more intention. And he was a IT was a great game. IT was a great game because the the oakland didn't fold when they fought their tails off to oakland. Vega st. Didn't fold when they thought .

their tails off to. But I felt like the moment after the first tech hand drive with the jerk mcconnon run and then the the Chris Jones roughing call, I felt after that, you guys needed this. That was the Spark you guys needed, and you definite thought on off. And you guys were back to the same kind, the city offence function in and patching my homes again, dial in, make an unbelievable throws. So would .

you get a running back, running downhill? Aggressive Jacobs, for the for the raters, was doing that last night in the first half. And I mean, IT IT is not only, you know, I don't want say to moralizing, but IT IT takes so blow on everybody when you see a guy out there running his tail off like that um so you're talking about when jet I had that big run and he had multiple big, big time place for us on .

the back field .

yeah that he when you get that that more menu is infectious man, you see a guy just run his tail of man, it's or just play in his tail off, you know, I mean, it's just, it's infective man makes you want to match that energy and play a little bit harder.

Well, we gotto talk about the element in the room. You scored four touch sounds. I don't have you remember.

I was crazy. Man, I remember, I remember the third one. All the other ones, I kind of like, dane, I ended up in the end zone. That's crazy.

Third, third one right now.

I remember more, but during the game was like, men, I really do have three touchdown is right now going into the fourth, the the drive for the the four touchdown. But like I was saying, I mean, the four touchdown are cool and all, but I was how we get to the red zone that that I would get really .

excited about men that you had four touchdowns, but only twenty five receiving, if that is that the most selfish stat i've ever seen in my life, let me do zero work and just show up and get off the gory time to go down in the I .

wasn't I didn't dance one fucking time because I was dog should tired they were ten, eleven, twelve drives where I was getting double teamed bracket by two dbs as well as then putting chor ones crosbie was trying to get .

je out there no, I .

haven't seen the broadcast.

but just my day is a half time literally said their entire game plan essentially was to stop you. I'm not making that up, he said. We're just trying to contain healthy. That was their main emphasis and you saw all night they were bitching with the dn put in double coverage. But that isn't the gate from the fact you can only have twenty five years receiving .

in four touch a way to keep record. I've found myself on the fuck in tayle and some pretty bubu records.

but you you're the guy, you're the guy in the class project that doesn't show up the entire time and then just shows up.

Would you guys to do? Guys to do, i'm here, i'm here. You want to say a joke. I can get everybody .

plus good job, group group effort. The other thing I had a promise is, after the game, you said those touchdowns are for you. mom.

okay. First of all, IT was for months birthday. Months birthday was on the ninth, not the tenth. So you're day late with your touchdowns. okay.

In second of all, who are, why do you think you can buy mom's love with touch towns? That is insult in to mom. You can buy mom .

love a touchdown slowly. I'm slowly like, mom, I can give you kids quite yet, but I can give you touch dance.

Mom is.

How's four of? How's four of them? Some of do you love me? Please say you does.

No, he he was in attendance. SHE loved that. He said, thank you when I saw in the sweet afterwards.

So of course he loved that. Well, I guess where he's going up to keep pop in out grandis. Can people before touch down games? right? Let's get to work.

right. Big thing with the game. Also, a lot of the two point conversions analytics coming into play as they are such a hot topic right now in the nfl, really across sports. Math is very popular in sports these days.

What do you think of the two point conversion attempts? How do that play in for you guys? How to play in for the rate? We know how that backfired for the radars?

Yeah, I think in a situation that we were in, up one you have to go for two there you have to give yourself a chance to go up three, because two be going up two doesn't that doesn't mean anything, right?

So yeah, yours is a no where you just game. Yes, that question. So one that the raiders did, that's a question because clearly, they did that because the analytics say this is the right decision to go for in that moment.

I think IT was the right decision.

I just thought the play was, yeah.

that's my so here inside zone.

what inside zone is actually analytically speaking? They went with two analytics because I think inside zone is analytically one .

of the highest.

I know mcDaniel analytics king, I think context matters. If it's a play that they felt really good about, I think it's a no brain.

You I don't think a lot of people realize, and I think analysts kind of gets a lot like there's there's the analytics, which is the percentage chance that it's going to be what increase your chance of winning the game, right, which is what you're making these decisions for or the percent change you're going to convert this fourth down and how that affects your outcome of the game probability, right? And I think when you are going into a game just for our listeners out there, most teams going into a game with one to two plays that you feel good about in our game plan for a two minute situation, our upside, two point play, two point conversion situation, right? And if you feel really good about that play and you already haven't running, because sometimes that play is .

also just a tight red five, yes.

So I think in that situation, you see what the analytics say. And then you also have to take to affect the the context of how effective the reddon offence has been all day, where you're at in the game in terms of what the feeling is like on the sidelines in the team and then also how confident you is the coach field in the play that you've game place for a week because there's some week where you get that point like this is a no brainer. We are rocking this. He is going in and there's .

so the first yeah .

yeah you don't mean I think all those kind of need a factor into these decisions. What I did think was interesting was how that decision then affected your guys decision because if it's thirty to thirty, they kick the extra point. You guys are coming out two minute offence.

Let's go source lions yeah kind of on the same tempo that we've been having success with.

Yeah IT wasn't really it's not two minute, but you guys aren't a much different mindset now of the set in, you're up one.

It's for this four minute. Now we we're trying to slowly waste the clock.

And this is another reason I like going for two in that situation because you go for two, you're winning, which is all best case scenario. If you don't go for two. Personally, I would rather have the chiefs offence in four minute mode than papp my homes with the ball is hand to go win the game, you know.

I mean, I think because pat is one of the best Operators lighten games to finish a game out, I would rather than be like, that's be conservative. Let's run the ball. Let's conservative. I think he was a great call by josh just then.

I thought, I thought was the recall just about, didn't next cuban next shot out to the kids chiefs? Baby wu ended up winning.

Is the game. What did do you keep like one of those balls, one of the four touch passage you cut, no.

is like a trophy. I probably should have. Maybe actually you don't think about that.

You do you remember when you gave me your dog for helmet?

Is since and already told me that I could not, I had to pay all of my parking tickets to get to get yeah well, just to graduate and they said, if you didn't graduate, you didn't get the helmet so IT was like a double warm. I was like, yeah, i'm somehow going to take this home at home and I saw you in the stands after we won. I was just like, take IT run, don't give IT to anyone like I was like just like they were gonna and hack you, hack you down for the .

helmet they probably wonder they were stingy y about but the situation, folk travel got a game winning touchdown his senior in college at the belt ball, the belt ball baby, yeah. And he gave me the helmet because of all the people he trusted in that stadium. He is like, my big brother will make sure that this helmet does not leave his hands and I was, I trave, I got you.

I got you. Then we went, go, we want to the bar, the game. I get to the bar.

Everyone, where are the helmet bar? And that thing was gone in thirty seconds. I don't know what happened to IT.

I walked into the bar, and some random person has my home. But how do I know with my home? Because I has eighteen right here on the side.

And I was my number college. Oh my. Some random, some random girl was rocking and and drinking of a cold one man. IT was peer comedy, went up the Jason s, what? What happened to my home and is like here somewhere someone is going to on a we never saw up after that night.

Yeah, that was a cool helmets. IT was not one of my finer big brother moments.

Sorry, a big guy. Good story.

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now is a great time. Moving on. Eagles twenty, cardinals seventeen. The eagles are still unbeaten. The only ones left the last of the mohicans man before we jump to the game. Now, how you fill in bud, I saw you going to bank up ankle feeling good.

I would say it's feeling okay. Got a nice little role ankle in the game.

too. nice.

I like, I tend to be dramatic sometimes. And I thought IT hurt a lot worse. And when I got up about, like, okay, this is not as serious as I thought I was.

But at that point they are. At that point they had already said, hey, we're going to get to actually on IT. Okay, go get to actually and then there I get your ankles fine and. Take IT up and went back out there.

So way to get back out there. Guys don't go back out. Some guys don't go back out. But fearless leaders always go back out. And .

low, low ankle grade to spring.

luckily after low ankle. So you roll, you roll that out yeah, they have been there numerous time. Actually had to get surgery on my ankle because I was just out there like a limit like he was like, yeah, he .

that's kind my .

yeah yeah there a .

surgeon that doesn't .

help and ankle tapping, ankle braces only make the angles weaker Jason.

yeah, I know they're a weaker, but it's already weak. So I don't have the choice of making a strong without getting the surgery. You speaking up. So what i'm going to do for the season is just sped IT anyways, the echo of torn that ligon so many times that they said you're not going to I won't like more.

No, that's actually very pretty good. You need a altos reconstruction surgery, which I had because I literally would have the most aggressive like ankle touching the ground. Yeah, side of my foot is laying flat on the ground as if he were the bottom of my foot. And i'm just like, that was not good oh my gosh. And then ten minutes later, i've got nothing.

We have got weak ankles. We got weak elsey boys got weak ankles.

I got strong angle, baby. I got reconstructed .

the twenty after .

twenty .

years of playing sports .

and rolling my echo on the baseball gordon on the field.

needless say.

a bit through a lot, a lot of water tear on these echoes. Not week just said, you will get a little tight .

and little screw up retuned the hurts when I get out of bed. But actually after that I kind illusion up and feel pretty good.

So just going to get the blood flow government, but back to back to the gay men. Five and o calamari had that the short slide or the the slide that ended up being short of the first down. Yeah, man, you just hope that you know everybody is just a little bit more unaware of aware the line is where the the first style market is.

Obviously, you've got another place still, but if you can get a first down guarantee your first down right there. I mean, big time, big time play. If you can move .

the chains yeah I mean, you know, obviously if he goes just a little, but further gives the first down, they can either get the ball a little, be closer for the kick who ended up missing the cake, or they have an opportunity take a couple shots in the end zone to potentially win the game. So yeah, not the best heads up play from keller, not the reason they lost the game.

But when you're running full speed and put together they put together held of humor to drive. So yeah, I don't want to you know the guy was pretty dying. Good on the drive. And outside of that.

who also played pretty and good with zc.

are one of our .

favorites of all time men. You guys do the jersey? Swapper, no.

think now he didn't want to swap with me. He said fletch was texting in early flesh is like.

he's pretty good.

And yeah, he's like texting these guys. Like, dude, what are you like? enemy? Yeah, we do. We're about to play a game and you're like conversing with this fellow. You're going have to tackle him a week.

Fellow, hey buddy.

can I get your jersey? I'm going to murder you this game. Remember, I want that jersey right afterwards. A lot of .

flesh place to fleet. They don't matter who's in from flesh is going, he is going to .

be the best i've been across the room everyday. In practice, he does not are who you are.

Got to love that.

But yeah, no. He was awesome to see my man's ac human. July just had their first child, baby boy name main um I know it's a good one that's a nice sort of football name. Isn't IT that I do.

you already know, have something to do with this? N, F, I for sure. Shut out the little man and men. Yeah, dicker, the kicker came .

a big game winning kick.

Man.

you must talk about guy destined to be a kicker. Your last name is dicker.

no, no, no. We have the butt kicker. Harrison butcher. Bucker.

yeah, it's not as good as decker must be honest. White.

we can try this. Harrison, the butkis ker, are you kidding me? He kicks us. We need him back.

but he kicks us. That doesn't have to be just kicking them. You you can make that with like anything the guy does. What is what .

is dicker have to do with .

kicking IT rimes and IT fits perfectly. We talked about, yeah, the only other thing that guy could have been is maybe a porn star. That's the only way that no stor a tiger .

like you get two options here. Yeah, mr. dicker.

What is a good one? Seventeen, final play drive. Wait, what does this? Seven.

seventeen had a nice little four minute drive that started with nine minutes of in the clock, like in the fourth quarter. So we had a big old drive.

seventeen drive. Man, I was just talked about how I was tired after a ten and eleven play drive going to touch down. And at a seventeen men.

they were, we took our time.

We weren't two minute, two minute in there. Little no.

We got IT down. We were inside two minutes once when we get into the like tight read and about the only bad thing from that drive is we weren't able to finish IT off inside the five and third down. We didn't get the touchdown out of IT.

So we had that's where dicker the kick came in. And you know I think that driver would have been perfect like the ultimate fourth quarter drive if we would have been able to finish off in the end zone. And it's one of those were, you know, they went with a zero blitz.

You know, we knew I was common and just in execute. So you know that's what it's frustrated when you know when you know what's common and you feel at common and you still don't get IT done, that's a that's a frustrating feeling for an office. So although we're really happy with that drive, I think I speak for the entire office. So we wish we would have been able to finish IT off in the enzo.

No, you already know. You never want to put IT in the kickers hands. But dicker came a big do the eagles run the most fun run scheme for lemon? It's up there. Is IT the is that the pin in poll, which is the the best to watch on film? And we watch you just actually just take a drop step and just start hall in tail and at line backers and dbs out on the numbers.

Yes, I think I think it's a little bit of everything. You it's not just a pinter pole, but obviously jane hurts in the courtroom. He is enables all these reads.

You have the rp o version of IT one minute you reading and the next minute you're reading a line backer or an edge player safety force player um I think you know it's so multiple, you know we can do gap schemes, zone schemes, pinpoint schemes, draw scheme screens and we have an office of line that is built on athleticism and size so you think um the eagles definitely value uh those type of line men to be able to do that multiplicity of scheme. Is IT the best or most fun? I don't know.

I certainly enjoy IT. I think baltimore ravens have a really fun run game to watch, obviously. I mean, what ever have a quarter bag that's that dynamic? It's going to just increase the options you can attack and defense with yeah in the run game. So um you know .

IT and shut out to shut out to hurts for having or hurts for having the mental capacity. You are mean because later guys don't have the ability to put IT all together, be able to run at all these various you mean and kills all .

these checks and their bein. It's not just based on coverage. In second, we have checks based on a lot of different things. Um and for him to be able to handle all of that I think that speech of volumes of jail hurts.

You know what man speaking out jail and hurts still. The official podcast at the Q B sneak treated .

to the only touched down we had in the game, both of them quarterback snakes syrian.

I told pat mcafee on the pat mcafee show last week that he hadn't listened to our show new heights, but the play calling says otherwise. How do we have A A full on count on how many times you get rin Q B sneak last game?

I don't, I don't know. I know. We ran at three times in a row from the three online.

We are fourth in one on the three rk quote, actually got yard, got IT, where first and goal on the two rank quarter of ek got a yard, got IT all the sudden second and goal on the one what do you think we're run in cub snake um I got to say as much as I love courter beckets do IT it's going hard. They don't come in. It's not a court of snick anymore not a good of the neck. And we're going to be sneaky the sneaky about this. We're all in four .

points states fact. We know that you know it's coming. So we're actually going to put a guy behind the quarterback to .

push this said we're just going to all out just get as much mass moving as we can have. Indeed, its carnage. I need to get evaluate to for a concussion because I was at the bottom of seven hundred pounds of men lying on top of me.

Get a little uncomfortable. Get a little uncomfortable down there.

It's good, hard. Make a life .

but man roman wins or the .

the most amount mass pushing wins. I think it's IT was a there were some brutal qb snakes and I loved every second of IT but yeah and it's a lot like pounds and sold of a fat ladies answer right now trying to get that thing in the end zone. Um not easy, tough. sladen.

Rob Michael, honey, we love rob. He shouted out the cub snake on twitter. He said, i'm so happy that the first nfl coach in the history figured out you can get one yard every single time with the same play. And that coat happens to be the eagles.

I don't know. Mac, listen to the show. Mac, I hope you listen.

I love that your profile and pick on twitter is actually just me. It's fat mac, but me. And fat mac, I think, might be the same person actually.

Is the Jason kelley goal line play ready to go syrian? Ni also told pat mac of you on the back of the show, he wants to get you involved in something on the goal line other than A Q B sneak.

I can neither confirm nor deny. I will give no insight into the into workings of our Operations. I will say though, if I somehow do get in the end zone, you're Better to be ready for fat and or sexy batman harder. You want to perceive IT he's coming out.

Come on, syria may give the people what they want. Maybe is that that some a buck up. And the record for all time.

Q B snakes is brady with one hundred and fifty seven. JAiling is off to a hatch start. Do you think you'll ever get to .

that many hundred .

and fifty seven?

I mean, I mean.

you've got to do the multiple game. No, no, I was I feel like he had the freedom to just if he was there.

he had the feel for yeah just say dose IT um you know I don't know. I think i'd be curious to know how many jail and I ve run so far. I think we probably are averaging close to thirty a year.

I'd bet White, I do to have a game .

we are way off. Listen, don't call me. I have no idea how many you are running. I know run a lot. And if japan plays, as long as time does, he'll definitely clear .

one fifty seven. You guys are average two two snakes game. That's pretty yeah.

It's at least we're definitely averaging one a game, i'd bet over the .

last couple of years. I hope if he does catch him, me, you will need catch him getting successful.

Q, B, snakes, okay, we've just, we missed two. So do .

you count the Q B sneak on first down your touch? Does that go into the success cater? Because you can the art or yeah.

I think i'd be curious what the efficiency rating on that is because clearly, if you call them at first down, you want to score on IT. You don't want one yard, right? But if IT gets you when you are closer, you just do IT again on second down.

And I have no idea. So the eagles fans made IT a home game officially out there in arizona, and they showed up, as they always do, everywhere they go. You guys always have, have a big crowd.

I everywhere you guys played an airhead. You guys definitely were. We're there. You don't mean you could hear in the stands whenever you guys made a big play, but do you always notice the amount of philly fans is a kind of just second nature to you? Now you're just like every statement we go and we ve got to we're .

got a bunch of fan and showing up what I mean. It's different levels of IT. We've played a lot of away games that have kind of been like home games.

Certainly IT happens like almost every time we play in L A. It's it's happened in florida before. But you yes, the eagles fans travel extremely well. Not just that. There's just like when you deal with when you play a team that's kind of like a transplant city.

Meaning the majority, like a lot of the people that live in those cities, have roots that trace back like the east coast, right? So like a lot of the L. A.

Residents grew up or have family members or dads or moms a group on east coast. So there's just a lot of eagles hands out in a way that are dying to go to games. And then on top of that, I think filled out of your fans are always looking for that, that game on the schedule that they can travel to.

And IT seems like arizona a this year was yeah they they traveled well. And when you're playing in the dome and danged, near half the stadium of eagles fans, it's going to loud and they made in a difficult situation for kira and arizona offense to communicate. And that's a huge advantage for us. I think i've read an article one time a couple years ago where I think they voted eagles fans. I don't know how they calculated IT, but they said eagle's fans were the best .

travelling fans in the end of you ah whatever that's worth I not by a now one maybe a few years before who whose one the chiefs you hear IT you're such .

a such a homer.

What do you mean you just pumped up your freaking eagles for traveling? What do you mean you're homer and you just made up some bogus as fucked journal or whatever story? This guy came out nowhere.

I can't wait to hear which filled out of your beat. Writer IT was, he said that the cheese fan base is everywhere. You can see him in the bright red, loud and proud during the nationalism.

And then when we make big time place, IT is, I love, love the kingdom. And I might be a little about our division has been bouncing around once the same ago. Charges, then then they go to los Angeles.

Charges, not a lot of charges. Fans in L A exact. So cheese fans are going to just actually own that one.

The kingdom, same thing with oakland. When we were playing in oakland, we showed up. But now that it's in vagus, IT is literally a fifty fifty deal. You'll see black and red even at at their home games.

I just feel like the chief s are everywhere in and it's more so it's more sense my homes has got there then IT was in the past. But I just feel like every single game that I play in, I feel the kinda city crowd and I might just be biased to that though. No.

you know, bias. I mean, your guy's home field advantage is incredible. Ahead is one of the law is the louder stadium in the end of so I mean.

twenty two cipla yeah.

who's coming? But you I think we are. There's no question that chief s have a loyal family. Is nobody y's saying that i'm the saying no based on a random article? I you're not the best traveling .

and yeah ten years old article came out when you were when you're .

on this i'll find IT google. I'm google right now. You want to go to the .

next topic I fight on. Google was plus for google right there oh yeah.

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Why is just some over this man? It's reference. It's a show. It's referencing a study .

that was conducted by doctor Michael Lewis of every university.

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N, fl, london games, we had a pretty fun one to watch. Yeah, the giants upset the packet ers in a second weekend of the nfl games out in london. How many have have you played in more than one over there?

Just one just played more.

I played in more in .

two thousand and eighteen. I know you play in one because I was at that game. yeah.

One of the few games .

I was able to go to during the regular season.

member jump in on a train with out landon to that was the size of like a quarter.

I love the london games. I love a different .

experience that yeah I mean.

it's a lot that goes into IT. And you know obviously it's it's a hard game to play with everything going on. But both times in the game, well, I just think you you're upon your practicing in different areas, but it's not I mean, both teams are in the same situation.

Yeah I mean, so yeah, I don't think it's like it's to me, it's worth that I like to mix up. IT was awesome to play in whibley stadium and to say I did IT the field was atrocious IT was raining a lot in IT was super muddy but IT was IT was a blast loved every second. Um and I think that's one of the cooler things that the n filld does. Some of these games overseas, whether it's in london, where's with our neighbors in the south and mexico, you guys just disable to play in .

germany this year. Germany, yeah, yeah, yeah. The box, the box decided they wanted to play us in their stadium since he was a bucking years home game.

yeah. Well, always, always next year, you know I mean, I think think we did get the bid for next year for germany. So keep my fingers cross, man.

So the fan basis IT is a different .

environment, just an all star game that is you see jerseys from every team, know it's just people going up their support and their favorite player and they cheer for everything, every good play they cheer for. IT doesn't matter. It's a deep ends of break up. IT doesn't matter if it's a you know a fiel goal for either team touched down, for either team, they are they're in fire. They're fired up for just like a successful play kind of you feel .

like it's like like little like baseball, like we're just cheering for all the good stuff, might not even keep score. We just have fun out here giving you guys a show.

Enjoy that. I IT was a blast IT was a astle blast play in wimble like you said um we played the the detroit lions as you remember you were there he was um IT was a fun one. Man, we are. We smoke them. Yeah alexa had a hell of a day um and uh that was cool.

I just like obviously travelling in the office in is fun, but getting to do that in the middle of the season was kind of like of a like like a fresh start near me like a kind of like to break the routine of being in kansas city. IT was IT was kind of refreshing for me and I I enjoyed that. We also didn't leave until thursday night.

That is, we got their friday morning. Yeah, we ve got their friday morning practice friday morning and then saturday, obviously we we're in the hotel and everything. I think the day before the game.

I think we are there for five days or so. We are there for almost .

the whole you guys got to actually see the city.

I mean, I didn't really do much. I didn't. I think it's um you kind of focus on the game, are you there you see a little bit.

I got to see the city a lot when I was they're watching your game. Get to ride on the tube. Got to you see big ben, all all that jazz ebi route.

right? Yeah, I got to see one of that. So i'm looking forward to maybe going to play in london again.

Well, you have a playing in germany next year. I don't look for you to london. Look at germany.

And I will, if I can. I am definitely going on to that game. I've want to go to germany for a long time.

That would be pretty cool. I think. I think I might be up for another record. The most receiving touchdowns in the most countries to score receiving touchdown. I don't know if anybody y's, yeah i'm so far .

I got through what's what's the third room besides mexico in the U. K.

We find all of our games in.

Oh, okay.

so this .

would be the four.

this would be the force. If I give one in germany, I don't know something. I don't know. There been players that have had the opportunity to play in four different countries.

Problem not, but you know what can you know, record to record.

right? Matt, rule out of Caroline, a man you never like to see guys get fired in the middle of the sea. That is tough situation to be.

And not only as a as a coach still on the team, but a player in the organization is just that is a quite a deck or especially this early in the season only be in five games for your experience what what is situation like? I haven't had too many coaching changes. All my coaching changes have been because the coaches are doing such a great job here that they get hired somewhere else. Obviously being under andy radia dug Peterson, who when to you guys and then matt nag who went up to chicago um I haven't really had too much turn over. I've seen IT on the defense of side but .

terms of office I I have much entire um I think you know this is a different situation. I've never lost a coach five games in the season that's and .

really matter.

Not common and obviously so they must not be happy with what's going on up and care at her down in CarOlina. Um you know I think whenever you have a coaching change, there's a period of. Of unknown for the players and everybody is still there.

Like what's going to happen? Who's going to stay? Who's going to go as everybody gone? What's the new coach going to be like? What's system going to be leg? Yeah and you know you you start from ground one, you start from ground zero, you start installing place, installing terminal gy. You know it's IT all IT takes a while to build all of that back up in the team so that you're not going through too many these transitions because I do think that some of you can start to affect the locker room and what now, especially I mean, five games into a season, what's this locker going to be like for the next twelve weeks and they fired if it's a ordinator too, I think so. You know who knows what these guys are going to be run in office and defense as a player?

Can you tell when I, when I hey coaches, a is probably going to be out of there. Is there like a fear?

Sometimes you can, sometimes you can. I think in our situations, I feel like it's never been like ultra clear even when they are moving on from Mandy, when they're moving on from cheap. But definitely IT blinded some people because we had had two ten win seasons before that.

So I think people were surprised at his first losing season that he was fired and then dug. That one was kind of a last minute decision to IT seemed like. So I don't think you you see a common and obvious ly, you know that the season isn't gone well and there's going to be some changes.

I mean, it's a it's a lot trying transition to a new coaching. It's a lot really a test the leadership of of the locker room. You need the older guys to be able to buy in and be open minded to the new regime coming in a test the coach right away and how well he can give guys to buy into him.

Um and we've been fortunate to have a lot of good coaches come to filled alphago mack to the coaching changes. I think that the biggest thing is you know you you the locked room can be a pinny environment. You know, there's a reason say, okay, sorry, the locked room can is very valuable.

This guys killing in me just i'm not trying .

to i'm trying to choose the correct .

words is want to make .

me feel stupid to you anyways, I think you know the the black room is, you know, try to the other right word and your vocabulary is inside me. And if the one of getting at is you what you have coaches and organizations that have been through coaches every three years, they're getting draft picks high all the time. So they clearly have talented players on the teams.

So what is going wrong with some of these organza? I can't find a way to get IT right. I think when you play a lot of meaningless games or you make decisions early in seasons, that kind of like, in my opinion, a little bit like devalue the current season is going on.

I think that's dangerous to do to a locked room. I really do. I think that you .

run the risk the wrong message .

yeah you know I mean, if you're as an organization trying to preach that you know where a family every game counts like older stuff and then I don't know what maybe that's not .

the environment care line. Maybe I don't know.

I think guys tend to see the business side of IT very quickly. And um that can make .

guys don't know act a little more selfishly, make them you know do things for their personal benefits that at the team because they see the team's direction.

you know, just to find coaches. And week five, you know what? What am I really good? So I don't know. Maybe he .

doesn't do that. I would.

Yes, I don't.

Only time I ve had a crazy coaching change like that was when a bk left, brian Kelly left us in a college. Which was crazy because we played, argued, the best team in the country with with, like, are lunch napper's s dad having headphones on the sideline. Try to organize everybody. Yeah, it's different.

Yeah I mean, in listen, those guys, I think did the best they could, but it's just a different environment. When you don't have a head coach, it's just when people don't know what is coming next, people are automatically gna wonder like what is going here. I need to look really good because I don't know where i'm going to be at next year.

You just deal you're dealing with a lot more self interest in situations like this that I don't know is conducive for one of the biggest team sports there is pRobing the biggest massive cortiope extensions we're going to talk about. IT. Nick, right, treated three courtois. Acs signed massive extensions .

as all season .

big money russia Wilson two hundred and forty five million, ann Rogers two hundred million and calleri two hundred and thirty million through five weeks to five weeks. Um you know I don't think any of those guys are performing where we thought they would intern, clearly is lacking some major talent on the Green bay roster. Um but you know I think what do you think of these contract extensions? Do you think that guys are looked at unfairly because of these contract extensions?

If you're getting pay that kind of money, you you're not only just one of the best players in the league, you have to be able to elevate the guys around you. So I don't necessarily think that you know saying that guys did the talent level around, you know, great players make other people around him Better? IT is what IT is. I've seen patch my homes, make me look ten times Better, then what I look like, what I am.

But less be honest, less be honest. It's only five weeks into the season. Check this out. I remember last year people were saying air Rogers is done. He.

in doing very well. M V, P, M V.

weeks, end of the season. People are completely ready. Like air Rogers. I got no more. Come on now.

Ais, no. Armers, you talk about A R twelve and .

i'm not ready to catch. I'm not ready, ready to case like say, Russell also come on, he's been one of the best. I mean.

and that differences is that, that difference is going to keep them in a lot of games and Russell going to have .

a lot of opportunities through out and in the bottom line is, I think when you set a massive extension one, yes, you're going to be under a spotlight more when you're at one when so much money has been allegations to you, which also means you're a premier player and a premier position, you're going to get that criticism and you're going to be judge harder. But I also think, in general, people are very quick to judge. Let's let the next twelve weeks sort .

out before we about how about the guy that didn't sign the big time contract, this massive extension in his betting on himself right now? Lamar Jackson.

oh yeah.

that is a fun one to watch right there. I ve I love when guys bet on on themselves is meant like a aon judge. Don't just folder, take whatever they're willing to give you bet on yourself to go out there and get the bag the next year.

I mean, it's A I don't know to watch, man, but I love seen to have success. No one, what happened in the off season? Men.

I don't know. They released what he was offered.

I have no idea. No, no. And it's an interesting situation because he doesn't have an agent. He's got, as I believe, mother and the nfl P A helping amount. So it's an interesting dynamic over there, one that i've definitely never heard of, one of the best courter backs that MVP in the in the national football league not having an agent to negotiate kind of doing at all himself with his mom, you that and betting on himself on top of that to go out to get a bigger bag than what was offered or or you know, it's just i'm happy for the guy to see him have success this early ban, that's for sure. Just got my god market Angels over their ballin.

Yeah, yeah. Always a family when guys bet on themselves are just a fatal more Jackson. I mean, they do to unbeliever .

player a same.

yeah. I mean, he seems like, I mean, he is like a prototypical guy. I think every one of hel guy routes for, and I am glad it's playing so well through the first few weeks and hopefully that just continues percent.

The only thing with correct c extensions. Men, that's a lot of money we desire in one position. Man, it's hard to allocate money to receivers and everybody else. The way you have to do IT once you have a cortege. G, that signs a big extension is you have to dress really well.

That's what he comes down to you.

You have to get Young talent that is on rookie to thirty year contracts, which are low paying and not big seller capets. That has to be the bulk of the playmakers on your roster. So if you're gonna sign a corner back to a bigger extension, you you Better be ready to draft.

Well, you actually probably should have already been drafted in well. And I think that's why the chief has had done so well. They've just I mean, you guys have killed IT in the draft, whether it's offence or defense. And you that's what the model has to be, want you start to pay a.

get that much money, set out the bread ch as go by the .

all right around around the very criticizing his own code.

What are we doing? Man, come on. Coach revel .

was asked, why do you think the teams in the division are further ahead at this point? He answered counter back.

such a bad take them a lot of respect for him too but you can you can say this, especially you considering where his defense ranked yeah considering that you're the head coach of this team. You cannot just point at one position, one guy and say that's the reason.

And I think he realized that he issued an apology. He said he actually talked to cars in this morning. In fact, I talk to the whole .

team already, said IT arty, said IT that matter the art said IT and he would you not that he doesn't fucking mean anything. As a player, as a player, as a player, you could accept apology when he said that. He said IT, like IT, had been on his heart and his mind .

for a while now. I don't know. It's tough. You, I think obviously you never wanted I just don't think it's never a good idea to pin IT all on one person, especially when you're not playing yes, when you're not listen, when you're not executing in winning games, it's never just one guy. That's the reality of IT yeah so maybe you know everybody needs to do a Better job and when you're printing IT about one person, I mean, that's hard. That's you know it's it's unfair in my opinion that right .

in the words of Christian or Chris rock, I think you IT .

seems like culture very realized that he did issue the apology. But yeah, that's that's the phone. What's IT like I enough I not to answer that question. I've never got ten public criticism from my old coach.

Now i've ever, everyone just got the the coach right eye like stairs. I A A third way you'd do, like you just got criticize and you Better time. I certainly .

got internal criticism from coaches, and I hope everybody .

he's getting internal cause. I yes. Costs me up, travis, you suck. How do Better coach? I got you .

unless it's A A greg ous. I just don't know that you know you needs to happen on on a public platform. In contrast, my thlen on the stealing struggles, we were a disaster in all three phases, and we have to own that, starting with myself and what I do.

That's the that's what you want to hear from the coach. That's what you want to hear from the leader like this. Even even if it's true, even if the cortege c is the reason, will they just that internally, right?

We got game to play. We got a team to keep together. We got to get Better in all facts, like what do we do in here?

Yeah, no, i'm with you. And with and yeah, mike has a great coach is obviously been in paceman for that long of a time um couldn't have to tell you how long he feels like my entire life since bill power left and he's been actually killing at their band and guys say they love to play form new .

high step of the week. Who do you got you? Me, the first .

you ve got. IT, i'll go first. Men, my guy geno Smith janos bent around just as long as I have. We've been in the same draft class.

This gotto be his best career year so far, at least to start to a season last week alone sixty for twenty five, two hundred hundred and fifty eight yards and three t the veteran counter back. Um i'm very fortunately and i've seen geno sling IT around since, uh, we were in a high school. Man, he doesn't even know this. I guarantee he doesn't know this but um when he we both went on a recruiting visit to the west gini, he was back there was like a seven on seven uh, showcase almost and he was just dad in the way the ball was coming out. His hand was like, of time .

you you had a recruitment camp, one of the recruiting camps with geno at this .

Virginia at west rgi, ia as a counter, bec as a quarterback. And I thought I was going to go there. And rich rod was going to offer me a scholarship because of what he saw in that seven on seven of me and I walked out there empty handed a geno smith. I walked out there with an offer the west Virginia um and later on accepted that offer and had a heck of a career and a west vie. But I just remember seeing throw the ball and I I in the, I got that me I could throw out a little bit but I bullying, flying out of my hand .

like that man and still got .

IT he is take your time to new heights, baby over there in seattle shout .

out to genome.

time to go a jack canon.

I got two man.

you know Better.

And I know I love when somebody Sparks something because you guys a flat man. And I really think that that's a IT was a play that I think a lot of people IT will unnoticed. But man, that was something that I really think like really got some energy go home when you guys needed most down seventy one.

one hundred percent a second quarter.

I love seeing a guy especially run back some of them like you're refusal to go down, shocking people run them through tattled.

Let's go. Let's keep doing that. Let's keep doing that.

Now I feel you and I remember the feeling after that play was finally, like, finally were we're roll in men. Let's go. Let's keep demand. Let's go.

He only at eight rushes, only at eight rushes for fifty three yard. You know, clyde Edwards layer obviously gets the bulk of that duty. Do you guys? He's unbelievable back.

But man, and I really thought, I thought jake came up big. He was a really crucial moment in the game. You guys needed to get something done before half time there.

All right, let's look ahead.

The week six, you guys a big time rivalry is turning into. We got bills at the chiefs. What do we think these guys foreign? Obviously, probably the most exciting game from last year, just in general.

But playoff, anything? I mean, that playoff game was incredible at her ahead. What do you think you think .

it's going to be another one of those kind of games? Men, any time you put josh alan impact my homes on the same field together, it's gonna exciting to watch in terms of the rivalry, I mean, I think since dma homes in josh Allen era has begun, we play them in two, at least two play off games.

An airhead that i've gone, you know, pretty big games, obviously, the one last year going down to the wire, but last year during the season day, I absolutely want to say helped us. But I mean, you've got the Better of us for sure ah during the season last year. So um i'm obviously expecting them to be fired up to play considering what happened last year and definitely how their team is role and already this year.

And we're going to be on for another dog fight and give me another four quarter battle all the way to the end, man. Their defense is solid as IT gets in the nfl, obviously adding born Miller hate going up against that fucking guy but flucker love him as as a person my great dude but dam that dues good a football um it's going to be a it's going to be another chief bills roker men. I can feel that already got ta get this body back in tipped off shape by sunday and go out there and roll the balls out. Baby, let's go get IT.

Well, the last game you guys had to get each other, and you read probably the quote of of the playoff last year when it's grim. Be the grim reaper and go get IT so hopefully you guys are a grim ripper next week you know.

a baby, I call me the White. No, they don't.

They don't. They do call .

you big gary though the gary, you guys haven't seen the you don't want to see to .

eat when trave was at since and ati, he would play a basketball in the in the playground quite .

A A bit of my house.

Anybody who's ever pick up basketball, you know the .

shirts and skins and dog as the only way to separate the teams, skins, skin, play.

The big bear at the log hair, I had a change beir backham, ARM hair, leg hair, just a big old just yet out there. Men, all the home is on the, on the corner. Economy, big gei. Especially because I was a big out of low post players was just down there are given work.

hand in out work in the post. You've got the zoo snick name by like casey fans all over place, not the, it's all about big ety to me, big ety is the best thing, baby, very happy. That's great.

All right, now you guys cowboys at the eagles, the boys got ta come to the link men. Is this the best rivalry in the nfl?

Is this certainly the most history? And engrained ravel, the families is hate each other. I think eagles fans, honestly, they care about how well we do, but really all they care about is that we beat the cowboys. So um this is a big one always for the eagle found base. It's a huge one that always says playoff implications involved.

And right now, the only one loss, and it's a big game, the nsc, he's trying now who to thought seas we have equals five and o cowboys, foregone one giant foreign one who do I mean, look on into the season. He was looking like he was going to be another week year for the energies. Turns out to be maybe the best division of foobar.

It's up there. Is definitely up there. Men, you guys got some dogs over there. So the use the giants was the biggest one for me.

I think you would hope that that the cowboys, I mean, cowboys, have a lot of talent, obviously. Yeah, but the the giants are the the one I did not see. Come on.

yeah. And happy for everybody there. Obviously my kafka .

are still over there.

dialed up, put the points on the board and it's it's school to see neighbors.

Got got a roman. He he's got a roll.

And pretty good up seeing a coach fired up after a win like that. Did you see him running off the field about london? I did not.

You could tell he he's invested. He's invested. You can tell he's probably pretty fun to play for, man.

good energy. Those guys are playing hard. There are difference of ordinator wink, Martin deil. They're planes so good and a lot of different faces.

But ah we got the city is back to be in you know that division again. So we're going our hand get out. We're going this is a big game ideal for the eagles and this a good test force. We're looking forward to IT.

Yeah and everyone thought that that afc west was going to be, you know the biggest I I don't know what's happened to that. You know where holdin nubar into the bargain?

A lot. Foobar.

lot of .

football. yeah. Which which game deserves the the same times lot more. You guys in the bills are ego chiefs or equals campus.

What I mean, you guys, you guys are five and know. So I can't say that you guys don't deserve to be on prime time. Foobar, you know I mean to to the best records in foobar going at IT and nothing wrong with that, but it's josh Allen pat moms.

So obviously, the people want to see another rematch, that playoff game. I think if IT came down to at which game should be on sunday, ninety be the cheese beat bills game. But i'm not mad that you gathered, you know, getting a little, a little show time. Love men.

cowboys, eagles is bigger than players. That thing is like deep rooted and to like culture and in history. You know, I think that there's the game today. Are you talking about .

who I mean.

it's like the cowboys .

were good in the past. You guys like the eagles haven't been a really .

since well.

were good before I read andy read was the one that kind of at least from what .

I know what you got no, you got oh my gosh, my brain doesn't work because no.

it's work and just fine. You just can't find IT because it's not there.

Even before andy read, you got a dick for meal that was like just inductive .

and approval meal. Don't ever tell you every meal story. So we're got to in the super bowl.

We're going to the super bowl having in our first week practice in kind's the city and we're fortunate to have for meal come back here. I was obviously also coaching kinds of city for a while. Good friends with coach read every meal. Um he's been out a coaching for a while now, gets in front of a group and you can just tell he's get those coaching like juices going like the like being in front of the the guys and tell a few stories telling how saying how the games kind of in soft like you got just to bring the physicality backman and starts with you guys you guys up front you know where's Kelsey? I stand up and i'm excited he's give me off like, right your coat I stand up is like your brother is one of the best foobar players i've ever seen out like.

yeah.

he is set my eyes right back down and I thought he was getting show me like, give me some time a lot. I love him too, when he. Love you too, dad.

shout to me.

my great guy.

you know, I mean, goes for meal, but ran. Listen, there's a lot of history in both of these organizations, but I think IT comes down to a lot more than that. Man like the eagles are like an intense fan base that so localize like the philadephia yeah, you know, IT becomes like almost from the moment you're born.

Part of god, prime time and in my football baby, get way to tune in. Man.

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