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My daughter, who I even know, pay attention of my podcast talk, says, dad, you had travis Chelsea on the pocket. I, yeah, we had a on last as a, please stop right now, please.

Ladies and gentleman, ys and girls, welcome back to new heights or yeah wave sports and entertainment. We are your host some travel's kelis my big brother jy Kelsey out a clive's in height, ohio university assistant, I grads holding IT down every single wednesay for you guys with new episodes and new heights. Come and at, make sure you scribe on youtube and wherever you get your podcast and followed the show on all social media platforms at new heights show, Jason, what did you tell the ninety two percent is what we get coming up.

maybe got credible show coming up, guys to talk about travels, trip to the White house, go and viral, as we all kind of a suspected he would. We're going to get you guys and update on the bearable competition we got going in the ocean drive in cio and jersey, and we're going to get an absolute legendary guest on the show. You guys are not gonna want to miss this one.

that gotta want to miss IT, that gotto want to miss IT.

But first, but first.

let me take this moment to clear up the air, Jason, because there been some rumors started on this show by the men that i'm staring out right now. And I think it's very unfair to myself that you would start these lies about me and the the trophy rumors that you started you talk .

about with other .

party ladies and gentlemen, to the ninety two percenters. I did not, in fact, break the lombardy trophy.

This is the real world. And look how much .

shining IT is that. This is one that I had isn't beautiful.

Is that from what years? That from?

Well, I said it's the real one, so Jason.

and it's it's the real one.

Yeah, I don't want to. This is the first, this the I did break William's ari. This thing is intact.

Looking at beautiful. I wish I could just van a White. This thing.

oh my god. So a nice trophy.

So nice to see that works.

Congratulations to the chiefs and all the players and good people that got that thing, the cans, the city. Congratulations all you fans. I mean, just talk of it's to be goods to feel good to know that you invented an entire thing off of the the money. That's pretty good.

pretty cool.

White, go take weapons on babies. Bib, I get catch up off of IT.

Oh yeah, i'm just going to put that right to stop for right.

right?

There was a good one. Do I told you I didn't break this thing?

You did tell me, I mean.

it's fucked up. You are lion, everybody. I, yes.

No, it's a beautiful trophy. I'm really happy brought on the show, I think beautiful .

about I tell you what IT is. It's a beautiful. It's to be IT is hard to be as much as we, as much as we gave a lot of love to lord standing and the oban trophy. This thing is it's electric when you see IT.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's as good as the standing cup, but I mean it's adopt trophy .

IT is I think it's more .

about what to represents the world champions of the nfl. I mean, it's really good crown and you guys definitely got IT if there's one thing.

one thing you can change about this beautiful trophy that you've held before, so don't act like you've never fuck in touch this thing before. Lucky guy. What is there? What is there that you would change about the the beautiful that's the body trophy or maybe the process or you know winning a championship because I mean, there's a few different things that that other leagues do that, that if IT doesn.

but I think the lombardy, troy, I don't know what would you change?

I think it's fun that that everybody gets a day with IT in in hockey. I think that is that's fine. I've mean, guys, guys have their own parades all over the all over this off season in their own homes.

And I think it's pretty cool if you could maybe you know give a guy and not an opportunity to take that back home, show everybody you know maybe motivates some some kids. And I just show everybody in their hometown what they've been able to accomplish. Why I think that was that's pretty cool.

How second that I think that's that's I think probably the coast thing about the story cup outside, like everybody's named being on IT, but there's so many guys on every single team in the nfl and coaches and everything that would be hard to replicate. But I think if I was going to replicate one thing about the same cup, it's that everybody who wins IT gets to have a for a day in their hometown and IT to be celebrated by all the people to help their person get there. So man, if that was the case, clive and .

heights there.

a lot trophy at least right at this.

at least very cofield. Yeah, very cold field. Got in one sound, the very cold field.

If I was, what else would I change about IT?

I think I don't know why. I just I feel like.

you know, I think .

the losing aspect of IT redeems, the fact that there's no cup because there's a way .

to interact with IT before my guys.

i've always tried to figure out no grant of the the bund you does.

That was the real one that was grank had the real one in his end.

he.

Did.

oh, okay, the one that is the bottle, the.

uh.

yeah, he was secure safely, James.

他们 也 a party that right now.

her boys go luck in.

I just feel like I shouldn't a football.

You can change the entire trophy. I just feel .

like ball is balls, the super bowl, and should be a ball.

some sort of ball. And I feel like the game is the ball used to typically play an arena.

some type of ball circle. It's it's a super bowl played in ball forrid IT would just all kind of bring IT together a little bit Better. But and you can drink out of a ball.

So be interactive. I know that thing. I think you should. People.

it's electric when that is going in in front men.

I mean, honestly, IT could be a doctor and i'd still want to win that thing to go get IT.

Hey, we go and we go trying get IT heart .

cool being going to take .

the study here. There's the good .

for king IT on tell your wonderful kinds of city people there how much I appreciate them and .

guys Jason just want to say how much appreciated throwing in in his face like this so and get a tell me, I got to get to tell I so he can actually wipe off the accelerator that I just use the fight thing I said, no problem, Jason. So I will say this though I did not know this.

The chief are actually taken this thing on tour around the midwest year, that is it's going to the statehouse and kansas same very not necessarily going with players, but i'm sure they'll be the chief will be in representation not only with the trophy, but I have in somebody from the from the office there be able to talk about IT and give some history lesson is on. But he is going around the midwest to the state housing in kansas, missouri, maybe have to nebraska, a few other states around. So it's going to make its way around the midwest, a really in cheese country out here. And yes, I think are the one you .

guys could start the tradition of taking IT to players like family sometimes.

Yeah, yes, let me pretty cool, be pretty cool. I'm sure we get some people, get some family members close to the statehouse from somebody on the team. No, let's also started IT. Well, um yeah, thank you to the cheese for bringing that at that beautiful trophy by Jason. I I know too soon wasn't my idea.

I just it's hard it's hard yeah .

sorry for that will thank you but I may got it's .

been a while since i've seen her for him tell the party.

yeah, miss, you had misses you. I just told me that admission you fuck off what that was that was a nice for him. So movement on baby, what we what do we get coming up?

You try we get out of the .

house as did you got out .

of the house but then you went in house you went to maybe the biggest house are the most notable house um .

yeah you went .

to the White house before we get into IT, which cannot wait to talk you about. We purposely not disclose information to each other because i'm very excited to hear these stories here you up.

So we're going to talk about the White house visit.

So yeah, what would you say? I I don't even know where to start. What was your favorite part? Where did you go first? What was the procession did they do?

That's the first thing they did. And um I had the fake ID. Dude, I didn't go with the fake I D, so I have a driver's license lost IT. So technically right now I am driving with two thousand and eighteen ohio drivers license, which i'm missouri resident.

Now you're driving with the two thousand .

eight and that's what I entered the White house with.

Know, the secret service is top light security. They say something .

we buch IT down and there was just kind of, they were checking their list and I handed the ID and I was sit there, wait form to tell me that, tell me I am denied access to the White house because I required license. And yeah guess you you don't need to drive to to get access. I could gave many ID that had a photo with my name and I guess and yeah, they let me in and it's ironically the first thing that mr. President joby and forty six present united they said to me.

when I say, you say.

he immediately asked me, where's my ID? There was others first word I said, mister president, a pleasure said, where is this guy's? I D do wear your ID.

So no, they confiscate at the door. I don't have IT on me. I'm just like.

school is united two cling looked .

at the secret service again, said, get the scent of a bitch out here and I was like, no, I just got here. We're in the oval office. I'm like when I have so much more I need to do in here thinking i'm going to .

actually national treasure .

that thing did did you national .

treasure anything I did my best Nicholas cage impression um as soon as I walked in and as soon as I found out that that was the energy that president biden was going to know yeah he had set the tone .

yeah he said.

where I have a funnier see the first the next thing he did was its meat patch coach read in the oval office with our our president at the at the cheese organization. Mark down and shut out to empty a one of my favorite guys he we're hanging out the oval office and he's showing us pictures behind the resolute desk and SHE graves a picture of his grandson um peaking through the door of the resolve desk like, uh I believe Kennedy did when he was a kid wow where Kennedy sounded something you right I think and somewhere around on the same path and he said my grandson could get under there can you fit through that hole and I was like.

we're about to find to find.

Do you do? Do you need the good time? I think, event of this thing moved the move the chair out of the way, got under there. And all I here is pat, and everybody I do get get out from under that. IT was a joke.

IT was a joke.

I said that .

i'm done there. Look, look around for bons. And and if you see in IT, I saw a full s alarm system down there.

I just around there.

not forget around on there.

I realized what I got done there. Do not touch shit. You will set the entire place off. And yeah, no, honestly, IT IT was so cool hearing a president by and talk about his his story on how he became a senator and how he then moved on. The vice president is now our president.

And just to be in the oval office, you can feel the history and the conversations and the decisions that have been made in that that roman, yes, IT was just so freaking cool, man. And to hear how much, you know, job in is like family oriented. He, he had a unbelievable mother and father that gave him the the determination and the the mindset to be able to know, stand for all people. That is, that is what the president does for the united a soul and was IT was awesome to hear him talk about you know some of the history and some of the things that he had lined around the office for yeah you know just make IT make IT home for him and um yeah one of them another one of them one of those items uh he casually as he's walking uh to a too I believe the the dining room that is right next to the the oval office he points at a at at a rocket and like a glass case so oh yeah the rock from the moon just sai just handed them over .

one of the rocks I get .

for the can you tell .

me more about this day like likely story?

I know the iraq moves and .

know that that door see before .

so that's deliver that I need to do now but yeah, I got to got the crowd into the resolute desk and see what was down there. Got to hear about our our president journey into being a the forty six president of the united states and um I might have opened sub doors I was supposed to be opening but that was down in the the mention part of the the White house, not the west wing um where are the good stuff? Probably is yeah no, didn't find anything crazy.

Found found a closet is probably like a general closet that I thought was going to be like the whole way to another hallway, to a tunnel that was going to take me to a treasure. But now I I got opening up way too many thing, wait too many side doors and doors that I was supposed you today. They told me to chill out. So I, am I real the back?

So we got to get to the, to the the biggest thing that made social news. What were you gonna say? I just wanted to address to the podium while president, your body always wanted distracted .

to you clearly .

gave him IT was the old and joe felt that really quick. You, I still was. What's over there?

Like, I may .

come on. What is.

Like i've always you know, i've always admired, you know, obviously the president at the podium is its iconic, right? It's iconic how they he usually addresses the nation to my fellow americans. And I was that all I wanted to say do that's IT. I just wanted to go there and say I should, I should started off with.

I always want to show that off with my fellow americans. That would have been such a show stopper. I don't think they were to kick you off. If somebody get up to the party, says my fellow americans, it's like a media like what is do about .

man yeah now but pad pad new that I was I would you point that he was .

like there's nothing over there. There is, this is a flying move about, no, I know traps.

and he is a banker. This is a banking before I have that. Yeah, that was a sort of the patman for for keeps me from embarrassing myself at that podium of man from the world but that, yeah, that was fun man and said out, saw the president by the man, handed him that jersey on on that stage in the in the old front long was was a pretty, pretty cool mom that I member forever.

Well, dad, ask me to ask you, did you ask you about the aliens?

I did IT do. I did IT. I didn't. I, I, I was so just a gulf in the ero.

Just the he IT was his floor man here. I mean, I don't want to make a mockery of this entire thing. I was already acting like a child freking crawling on the ground and death and walking through doors.

I shouldn't been walking IT through. I just, I couldn't. I couldn't ask. I should. I should have.

hi, well, pretty, very cool, man, that you guys were able to to be at the house, america, the White house. I mean, pretty unreal if .

you get out the house though this weekend big guide.

we're not talking about that. I can't say I went to the photo of a union game in the roots pick to him over .

and the just to the White house .

like I can just tell who is your favorite .

performer at the respect so didn't .

know anything.

I think the roots of the best every year they show baby they actually kill IT um and everybody does well, I mean none of IT is bad. Uh was clearly my wife favorite part but .

have on the gates did he have on skate?

I don't remember states, I don't .

remember what is maybe .

he did .

not .

a lot. I don't think I remember that but and then i'm a big bus for so round out there oh yeah, you know.

fuck, you can go around with best men.

Well, that's our get out of the house portion ocean drive beer bow update. One thing before we bring our guest time with you guys are gonna ve. There's a right reminder that there is still time to participate in inner our first ever bearable taking place on june twenty eight in cl new year to benefit the eagles autism foundation for a chance to compete.

Submit a video with your team theme and the reason why we should pick you and your partner um for a shot at a fifty thousand dollars a cash Price that's right, fifty thousand other cash prize goes to the best team so if you in one partner think that your game enough to compete in the first ever new high bear bow make sure you submitted a video about your team theme and why we should pick you. We've also got in this question a lot, but just as a reminder, its teams of two people and the cut off enter is june twentie. That's a tuesday.

We're trying to keep pretty much a week out from the competition so we can notify people that are in IT for travel reasons and on all that stuff, send submissions to new hyde show or email us at new height show at gmail account um we did you a submission we should probably talk about from a friend of hours former team in in mind mr. Bow Allen tweet at new heights. Let's take this should over honest take to take IT over Chris long, do we let them in? Is this, is this a cop? Can we let friends in?

I feel like, I feel they got a good. If they got a good theme and they ve got a good, I mean, they're got to make a video.

We can .

just just cept 他们 在 支持。 We have there's no integrity over here, but there's no doubt.

And I would love to witness this.

I would love to see you too.

I want to be an epic team for the ages. I don't think those who have .

been reunited since a .

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But yeah so there's going to be some special things put in place to the top thirty donors, two teen sixty two for eagles auto and foundation. There will be some ticket sold on the daily event. It's going to happen in the morning around ten. So keep that in mind if you want to a guarantee because I have a feel that these tickets are going to go pretty quick, that you're in IT, you've got to be one of the top thirty donors also, you've got to be twenty one to enter or compete.

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this is a good is .

an eleven time NBA all star, the nineteen ninety three NBA is most valuable player, a member of the mba's fifty eighth and seventy fifth anniversary teams, two time olympic gold medalist, the four time ami award winning coes of the greatest show right now in sports media that's right inside. The a .

yes, I am so excited. The beauty of pocket, you know, this travels of only podcast a couple of weeks ago.

the room .

let me, my daughter, who I don't even know, paid attention how he says that you had travel. Kelsey, on the pocket, I yeah, we had upon last, which he said as, please stop right now, please stop, leave IT. H, you know what is so weird when you don't have crushes on people? And like, but this was a busy girl. J, I J is going .

to have the same, same feelings.

He's got three of things never met in my podcast to me. So I think he is. Listen to the park cast all the time, but he was so side. We had travels nothing against you now.

oh, listen, this has been my story of my life. Just the say nothing new for me. I got three daughters. I'm i'm not looking forward to having these talks a later on.

But what a limited is the worth frequently in the world I I did not enjoy with that. I got yield at all the time. Say they say I was a nice yeah, this is what happened. I can be if i'm wrong, maybe i'm just .

a jack.

When they came to the house, I said, hey, i'm Christan is dad, welcome to my house. Eat in the thing. Let me know. okay? Then I leave.

Afterwards, my daughter comes screaming at me, you are such an eyes, what can you be? Nice like, what was that? Not, not, not fair me on if you think I would be hanging out with teenage you. That's a nice, as I can be, to a boy who's coming here to trying to cna hook up with my daughter. So best I have to I thought that .

was pretty smooth. That's a pretty smooth way to go. I've actually i've gotten way worse than that.

Go into a Young lady's house. I've got pretty stern and down. Yeah no.

So if you are as as .

a Young man going into a your girlfriend's house or a Young ladies s house, you'd have to be ready for that. There nothing. There is A I just feel like you have to be open to the father being able to kind of like set the tone. You have to be accepting of that. You are a mean and be respectful of that.

So I think I really players the right way, a wrong way to do IT. Because like when you in sports, you sit around with the gas, it's like special trains, trains and buses, and you'll give you to advice how to raise your kids and things like that because we've had some good and we have a Better. But I know that has no right way, a wrong way to try to handle the situation. It's just a simple yes.

let's be honest, when I know you've said what you said, but what was your body in language while you were saying that was IT did you actually like the car?

I I never really got a chance to know. I like to kid, and not because I don't know first what I think they in high as a waste of time. Be honest with you, you never can see them again.

Hopefully I then again. So marketing was I didn't want to get part body. I won't heard again close to him, right? You know, I didn't want cause that's like, hey, you gonna go to college and get a job and be in our strong .

independent .

woman for me.

I want to make sure if you marry a jackie as you can leave yeah and I want to makes us you she's lucky. SHE went to be a noble who was an amazing school. Ay right baby sitting her shot .

off the coast.

right toler in the time of husband active, right? Just, hey, we'll see you later kick rocks.

That's a messed the girl dads out there. Baby .

missed me one i've got to say, before we get go and happened, when did we all meet? Because we ve all known each other for a while now. I guess, try of, I think you met first. When did you? Yes.

we actually talked about on the steam room. We met at A N, B, A finals game. And I remember that I just kind of hang in on the floor and Charles came over me when I tell you, blow my mind that even knew who I was at this time.

And man, I was, I was started stock. I went and told everybody in my family, you know, because Charles barker was a fan and favor, not only in our household, but know in the community. We were big basket, all community.

So everybody was a always, always praising search child. So was IT was prety cool to have to come out to and say hello? No.

so I don't Normally come out during a game. So I always kind of stay in my little book cos like I say, I don't want to take away from these players so that this is a day time. So I I don't want to go out and I just go out when we do to show us.

And somebody said, travis cares this here. I said to tidy, and as you, I got to meet him here. You know this on football of my famous point.

And I I played one day. Then I realized our our frequent. Nuts, you know, can share.

Give me hard time. I think IT was back. I think IT was back coaching the coasts code. He says, I shouldn't put you on A D of line because like the only real position, no disrespect to you, throw the only real positions in football on the open of land and deeps of land.

This is, that's what .

games want to lose this. No cheating on ice. You have to actually earn your key.

That's a five every single place.

I was on a deepness of lab, and I remember the last day, the coast to me. I'll see you tomorrow as what? No, no, no, no, no, no.

Not doing this tomorrow. not. So I took my form mob as a coat. I wana thank you for opportunity. I'm not a football player, you know, my friend talked me in to doing IT that one day and I just said, just say for me, you know, later on he said, hey, if I had a chance to do IT again, i'd put you at a position where you have to get hit every play relate .

for that the ball .

first into this thing what so .

we've had this debate before, I mean, we going to to a later too. But I got says we ready talked about IT.

Do you think you could have played in the nf, my two favorite pose of football in boxing. You can't cheat in football or boxing. You have to be all in.

Uh, i'd marred the reason those two sports are like, wow, you have to really be all to play football for a box like basketball, you can cheat a bit. You can hide on our fence. You can hide on defence, but if you step on a football field or you step in a boxing, bad things can happen to you.

That's why they are not to paper sports, both five football. I love boxing. I'm like to miss a good boxing match. You know, grown up in alabama, you have to like football. And yeah, glad I have a great high school team. We were in a playoff s every single year, and IT was a big deal because in my home town only got a couple of thousand people. So you going play sports and love IT, but man, football and boxing, as I admired you again so much, but I I did I could have to one day and.

Would not going to answer who your favorite boxer?

That's a great question. Probably I is my hero, is my hero, but probably from just a box in standpoint, uh, marvis, marvis, marvel harvest, I forget, marvelous. Uh, IT was great. I saw him. I was absolutely to fight that night him and time my haris got to fight when the book came in a ring.

Oh, that was.

uh, uh, mr. Heller uni made of, uh, four, five times. He was always amazing. I've been a play golf with sugar ready quite a few times. My tyson was asked one of my neighbour, the street, for about four, about years, and so he would always come around, but you know.

was just the house, he at the tigers and stuff. You have a worry about one of the things. No.

no, I never. 还有 那么 多 红包 一条。 Hi, I so mike is actually like mike like but I but I think this a puna stories.

So I have a new year party every year. So one year might cop might came a couple years if I cannot just I run out a restaurant, invite about three to four event of people, bring in. D, J, S.

Everybody is so no pitches is no other body. Everybody come have fun, you know, no, no light waste out again. drink.

And my friend has have a fun. So my ties and come on here and like the guy, come with the board sound, the cap is here. The cap is here.

And I like we're all famous in here is no big deal that. Yes, down. But by by the room is having a good time.

We're are very famous to no big deal to chat as here, right? So about two hours in the party through before the husband up to manses you man, you can do something about mike. What's mike going? This is he grab in my wife. But as he was .

around .

graving women, oh my god, just so let me get this straight. The guy who built a guy era, you want me to go and confront him.

You got, as you gotta say.

对， 还是 O K O K that。 Uh, this there's only a couple of women here who are single. Not did you should be graven as either.

Most of the women here bought a day and he's like kay choice. Okay, you right? I stop doing a choice. I out of precise.

I've got a really big little bit, might get .

really back in about thirty minutes later. I mile pot.

no way.

My restaurant .

too.

Still, mike is a loose canon.

Oh my god, I know I rented out the restaurant for the party, but this is actually somebody d's restaurant. And these people lose their food by this license. Can you a go? Okay, you're right.

Just, I wanna love to liz about about thirty minutes later, you know, miss out on the front. You know how rest time rest. I have like a little bench. I upgraded the restaurant, just blaze and away lead to do alone and at this point yeah more .

request yeah what more kind of like policing away from this guy really started to get high as too .

he he was always cordial, but he was interest resting .

no yeah but as we can imagine, 没有 as we can imagine， math.

We got to talk to this, require we get some new news. We had him with the one, two, three, no, no.

no, to give one. No, ws.

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off against steff korea. Clay top son, chuck, you're going to be there. What who do you got? Who do you thinking? Going to take this one?

Ask you think the football players are gonna win is no baby? I, well, I know stuff is really good. Okay.

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I don't know anything about the anything about killing, but because .

of the dark SE, nobody knows .

about what your brother impact they be the great yeah, I say I no stuff is a good player. I know know anything about you, but I have actually played with your brother and pat. They go play good enough.

Trust me. Who's Better between travis and pat? If you get an answer .

on us now that's really good.

And I can tell you that one.

do they pay well.

they're just a good like what what do what's the format of the .

that's I think it's a little bit more of a team game. So it's it's .

going to see set up .

there is scramble a shamble. And I believe the scramble is, uh, we both get to take the best drive, anybody that we play all all for that the shape.

I can't remember a who puls a about a player. I'm not trying to scatter cosin Jason. But yes, so you I .

tell I can tell you is that I .

can tell you that later hoo works is you play with a friend the first day, and then you play with people who got the same score as you are all you the what are you being very modest.

And I appreciate that truck. I ended the first like two times I played in sao me. Charles ended the sunday together quicker.

No, yeah, yeah. No, I, I figured out, said, if i'm going to be a national T, V, I have people around. I got to try not to hurt anybody and actually shot. Of course, I can keep in.

invite the back.

I am not to lives. I die. Just hate a guy like a, like, a month ago, I went down to a shell bay with my guy.

Changer parsons delayed a member guest down there with a man. We made IT all the way to the championship. We made IT through our fleet and the like.

The everybody that won their fleet had this one shot. You had to do alternating shots, and we had a wedge from about A D. R. out. Everybody had to try get in the whole as fast as possible. And i'll tell you what, I was about eighty out and I hit a guy and in the grand stand, oh, behind the hole and IT comes flying back across the Green.

You hit him when I came back.

dude, I when I tell you, somebody told me that I hit somebody, I was like that thing recitation .

really hard.

They said.

there's nothing worse. You know, I play in a product of of programs a year, especially on the senior year tour. And man, those little tunnels, they think all the pros are here.

Maybe stand to trying to get a good look and i'll takes me once you hit somebody, you can Better to take their club back. Man, you can bear IT, right? And you think about maybe going like a slow motion, like, please .

don't.

Josh Allen, josh Allen, next year, I think, had a few people at the match. When he was him, he was him .

that I, what they were, the he, he is a good. He can hit the ball a long way. yeah.

And as long as you have fun, because you're gonna raise a boatload of manufacturing, you're gonna have fun. So you can take a that series. I mean, obviously you won't win in, but their product on with a ton of manufacture ity.

I mean, we do for fun. They have got the right duos. We ve got to get Jason to lose some way to. He can swing a club.

You have to talk .

about his weight. Man.

he'd likes fair James.

James in shape. Fat boy, you mean, like his those guys, he's more muscle than fat, but he's got to keep the fat on, you mean, so you can take the beating, you know? I mean, what's more nerve acting a big pot or saturday in my life, a big part on on the matches at seno?

There's nothing like, like, like i'm like, dam, I know how to read and when you thought of that, like going to be getting out a week IT does nobody in out when you first store IT out and you like, damn, I know I can read, but i'm nervous. And think, you know, we talked about on the park as like sometimes you have like two minutes to get stress.

Jason and these four random strangers, women you never met in a life that naked and they are, they are the next outfit. Is somebody a Green a minute? Forty five A I like one second you stand just you're underwear yeah because sometimes what most of time they know you clothing three .

or four .

times you have exactly two minutes. They get dress so they give you one. They get islam takes a leg on the ARM and they just snatched off at one school IT back together you like dirty twenty nine and they push out there and in is so in that and it's wanted the most fun weeks of your ah it's wanted the hardest weeks and fun week but man, when is over you like, wow, I can't imagine, I can't imagine doing I like every week. So somebody not rely on the show.

right? Crazy is crazy, even family. But Jason can to test.

Jason can a test to that first mondeo. ow. g. reed.

He was in the room when he saw my first model, greed. You're right, just, I don't actually read. But man, that was, that was like a bad. I got to real quick. I can get coached the real quick.

But you killed IT just like for relax, like typical. I mean, trade does so good. Once the camera comes on, it's just like, boom, and you got IT, you know, I mean, and he he strugling the first one, but the game time one, this one he did, the whole .

freak I ck IT up in practice do.

is that warm up show? Yeah rearch.

So right there with your child, when I tell you that they have got a lot of the butterflies, I would got maybe a whole lot more confident and in the characters and what I was going to say, but that was argued that that he was almost more fun, because he was kind of like a little bit looser, because you knew IT wasn't shown to the entire world. But I have to do every single skin.

I say this, I try only you and trip know this, because you guys are hosted by trial. And if the first time we did the model, like he comes out and he's like getting teriyaki and he like to choke up, i'm not making this up like he gets choked up and i'm like, what the hell gets you all choked up there? Nobody in here like what is the biggest deal with this are now and he says, man, I was staying back there and that's when I down on him that he's going to be on the stage with all of these grades because I guess everybody signs the back side of the door that you walk through so there's a budget like like Chris far like all these all time, uh, senate life grades and that's like when they hit him he's like, man, i'm really about the beyond senate life life which was one of .

the cool was the week I built that thing of my head right before I want mix.

I'll tell you, i'll tell you a funny. When I host the first time about music, guess was cargo being in the net group. 那 完了。

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time they opened, the first body were really nice. According low SHE was nice. I have get other two members at a group.

But every pan home, the door, I got one. Those mushroom clouds a pot. Like.

where's my test .

every day that week? Like, every time they put the door, like you seem like those nuclear excludes, like those big mushroom clouds every time door. Oh, but they were very nice. But they were, they were, they were cool.

They're blaze anything up yeah, they are really cool. they. Art, well, jack will go on to the next segment. Te of these, the show called no dumb questions because we all know there's no dumb questions, just dumb people and hard so from our guys, said gillis, her hypothetic ticals, who would be more successful athlete travis barki or Charles Kelly this is a very we've told the story about me wanting to be named Charles when I moved to the new city clive and heights when I was five years old um as my mother thought out of the black party was telling everybody down the street that my name is Charles and you just told the story about um how yeah travel's abernathy was one of your idols in the in the city you grew up in and I got to ask .

you a few things I watch that episode. I watch that episode of the steam room with you guys. what? There is no way you actually wanted to be called travel. Did you do have made that up for the show?

right? No, not at all. So what was really funny? The best player at my high school was a garden.

Travel is abney out. And he was great from, like, junior have. So everybody loves travis. yeah. But I was named after of my grandfather.

everybody.

And so out when I start to get Better at basketball. Mom, what I think about me change about named is travis. He says, what the hell you talking about? Because I go get IT done.

He is my grandfather's name. And I said, yeah, he's a nobody. But j, that's of the said, i'm not we had on the park.

This is so crazy. I've told the story on the show. Yes, twenty five times I want of my name because I love the name. Travis is just like you ve got to be able to place some of your name. Travis.

yeah, that's a bad last name for the most part. Yes, that's fair. What about Jason? Ever thought about Jason?

James?

Don't have this same .

ring to IT would you have? Oh my god, take barkly.

I about to say, who has the Better career? Travis barkley or Charles Kelly?

I think they've both been pretty successful. I think you've got a huge bandit. Tell me, because you s and play both sports so either one or work work like I told, demand that one day I play football.

I know football was not for me. I mean, like. Deepens of line, offensive line run in back. You know, those what you can really, really have to be imposed. Will you get as a running back? When you get a ball, you go at the ball as coming for your head, like as a tiny you ican rest.

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C I have to can be dummy.

We're talked about this show, I really think, travels, and I ended up the way we think we ended up going into the positions that suited us. I, if my dad tells the story, we got the same legal set as kids. And I follow the instructions like one by one, and put this thing together piece by piece. Travis just looked at the box and put the thing together. You know, I made like trave .

had a few extra pieces at the end that I probably shut ahead, missed a few steps.

My dad for years, look at there. My dad for years, like travels smarter than Jason because he put that they go to say together without the instructions. But what i'm saying is i'm i'm very analytical thinking and I think the way that helps being a center, my brother is very creative and he thinks kind of similar like an artist where he's just got great spatial awareness.

He is no dummy by any means. And don't he just discusses the domains? Sometimes he no domains.

I'll tell you that he is one of the smartest st. People have been around. And I do.

To be in a center, you have to be able to understand that in and out of the play and make calls and do all these things that are structured. But I don't have the ability to freeze away, travel us in the way. Lot of guys that are premier, either basketball or receivers or eat quarter bec, quite Frankly. You watch pet my homes, proud the best free land .

and anthy .

i've ever seen. But your brother is on a pocket, you know? Yeah, my football friends, if I want to know football questions, I asked some football questions.

I hate people act like, do they know about ever support drame? Crazy like, there's no way you can know. I mean this because they pay you food.

I don't mean you know every sport. I mean, it's just B, S. We have to deal with, put up in there sometime.

And I says you may want to do, always open. You can do. and. I like you MBA when I, hey, we're not going let this do beatus we're going take him out again and I I was about you, man, i'm said to watching going back I said, man, was your eyes always open you, they can't double ham and do this this is, this is not that easy .

and then I said.

what he always open your case, stop at.

Yeah.

I mean, andy re, baby.

there's a team to try to, but I just opens up so much other stuff if they ever, because football everybodys gotto have a gap in order to be sound defensively and zone. So you want to apply that much attention to .

one player. I mean.

you're going to have a bad rest of the team to be able to apply that much attention or in like the red zone where you're not playing with any safety deep and you could put two guys on a guy. But um I don't know. It's tough for me to say because I don't know nothing about basketball than, uh, how to play knock out in in, try out, hustle the guard front of me. That's about my experience playing a basketball .

or so does your version a knockout as you throwing your ball at the other ball is in the air. Me.

a good strategy is you to think you got to come up with some ideas. If you can shoot about you.

you got to find a way to win. You have amazing, talented. You guys are, you know, to have two brothers.

Be an in a professional sport is crazy like IT is an amazing thing like I mean no, I mean early no one you both obviously great, easily saying you both great, but they have two brothers and I mean to be and and to be success or not like a ga hooo you know like we always say, oh, he is brother, had a cup of coffee and like to be his greatest I have been for a long. I think it's pretty amazing. And I think.

yeah, I mean, I would say that that kind of hit me and I think try of both in the super bowl. I mean, we had known for a long time how crazy IT is yeah that we've been so that we've been blessed be able to play so long in the nfl. But you're right, because it's the talent is only one piece of IT like the injuries.

all the other like little things that happened.

What do you get? What the right coaches in college, you know I know it's IT is crazy when you think about the longing vy of IT, especially matched with the the success because it's just hard in in the nfl in particular, it's hard to sustain a career that long just as one player, let alone two guys that are related and went to the group together. So yeah, I IT IT it's not when we think about IT and certainly thankful everybody that itself is get to you know about .

to say football football is that game yeah it's hard to single out one guy success in football over another. You can kind of look at the the alledge of like, you know, propose and and and all proof stuff like that. At the end of the day, this is the ultimate teen game made. Like you said, you've got to be all in because the guys around you when you play that offensive defense of line and really just any time you're out there on the field because it's uh, you got you got bodies flying and and everybody trying to be accountable for the guide next, man. So we've been fortunate we been on some good teams that has the great people to to help us throughout these.

You guys got ta be great leaders in your own right. I mean, you can't have a the success that you have. I mean because you said, you know in Jason said IT takes a lot more than talent to be successful.

I take a lot more. And talent, talent gives you to the dance. Talent gives you to the dance, then you got to learn how to dance.

Well, would think about in about line. And we had read about the older gas from IT eight years and nine. We're top out.

We always say, well, that guy gives IT we not going have a chance and they d never get IT. Yeah they over. They don't have they do stupid.

They don't have to work as they they get some issues after after court. Haven't talent. Is that to be at just the first piece of of a puzzle?

I mean, when you saw a given up there where you play double died years, you have master the physical and the mental yeah you yeah there's a lot of us to play one to three years. But if you get to double digit years, you have master of physical and mental. And that's the hardest thing that's the hard is sitting out as the .

player do that. I mean, as I remember being a Young fricking idiot out there on the foobar field, get yet that left and right because i'm doing the wrong thing because you know you just don't know that you don't know you're doing the things the wrong way you're you're doing this learning process of a playing a in the news system um playing in a new league um going up against grown men.

You've got na lot other things you know to worry about h now that you are a college and things like that and the guys that translate the game faster mentally have so much more success earlier on in their careers instead of just showing up in being the athlete that you work because everybody he's going to be a great athlete when you first get to see because you're Younger and everything. But the more even now, right now, the as you get older, you get less athletic, but you get faster because you your you're seeing things quicker. You're reacting to things quicker because you have these built in instinct. Ts, and that's how you sustain a career in anything really, is you just you master the mental part of IT so that everything just flows that much quicker and you stay on time and actually play faster because you're .

ahead of the game. Always feel guys like for me, I was in caused for three years and IT all comes together like around twenty five, I said from twenty and five to thirty two, you like, hey, I can not run everybody. I can jump everybody I did.

You know, you get IT all all your physical powers. You get all your metal powers, and then you have sustained like they can do anything against me about work hard, i'm going to be successful. And then then you get the other side, like what is the hot as game?

I remember so to get the audience of I guess, um so Charles, I reach out to him about last year. I think of season h about retirement and like how do I know when it's time to retire and Charles just very, very checks simple way. He was a with people that shouldn't be being, you start being.

So what was tired, and I looked across that this will can even play, and he kicked my eyes. Here right now yeah like when you when you at the topic, it's very few people like, oh, hey, i've got to get a good meal on a good nicely at there are guys are we go to the club and party night nothing can do that to you say all 来了， moo a bird, a calm alone 原来 也 i need to get a good night sleep I didn't like a when you still a little guys guys like this do you can play and I act and and I come out that's what is time to go home yeah but I probably .

just like .

IT there's nothing like like I was so be an an eagles friend IT was it's been so cool going back to the nick falls and then now with dalan when the apples， because is i've been in film driven, is one thousand hundred and eighty five. No matter how much success the eagles I meet, the fires the sexes have, the files is is a filling a is a eagles town. Man, I tell people I I didn't realized that to I get there uh, in eighty fact, because we don't have a prosperous in alabama when I got there, i'm having out with jon Brown safe johnna, who still a great friend for me today, read White and these guys are like, wow. And I became .

an apple and was .

a body rine .

era .

like, that's, know, I love because of players loved them, right? You know because because they always tell people the players, you know the players saying a love to you, right? And i'd never melt a player who didn't love they food like I I, I get as human.

I I only met a couple times. I'm like, close, the players love you. When player tell I love you, that's good enough for me.

Yes, the sign of approval, illy, they keep the honest over filled off your fans. They keep you honest. So you are to know you've got to live with integrity of their filly. Probably true if the they get the right guys in .

the building. Yeah, but limit is a that is a great, great city. I love my of IT is not for everybody.

Everybody can play and fairly. I mean, we had this guy who would get too quick, fast to start the game, every game trade. Would I give me, what is your day of problem? Why you get two files right away? He is. And I can't take the crowd screaming at me.

So IT aid for you.

We like what he is. They leave me alone when I go to the bench.

So and I was like.

and I felt bad, I was mad and I fail bad because I have.

no.

because I remember talking to show berley one time as a human. Please hear you why this shape to help o i'm not i'm not plan. I'm not 的 一个 i don't play for six is i'm as a man， please hear your wife to set the hello. Now I yelling at fans who are yelling at you, like when my wife loves me, she's gone to defend me as the .

limit is something here .

after about two months yet to stop coming games .

about to say, we learn, learn.

do not get in to a with fans. Just take IT and keep in moving our .

guys jelly bother joe, bother he he barked back .

and filly .

just throws that line out there. And they say one or two things that are kind of funny, but kind of just like pierce e enough to want to say something back. And if you don't have fun with IT, you go the ops away defended IT a man. They just, it's like cowes. They all like wolves, just surround you and .

just eat them know thing. I would say as long as you play hard, they're cool. Yeah, I think you .

still got to perform if you're not perform if you're going be mad, but they'll respect you if you play hard. Yes, that's a bit like even if you're not good to a certain extent, if you're a hostile player, fill IT of you will love you and if you wear your heart on your sleep, if they feel like you really care, that's the biggest thing to them .

caring and hard issue and pillow of you. Yeah because I know I was like, hey, i'm got everything I got every single night. Our teams were not great because we reward up, trade the number one, pick a draft for some unknown, stupid as reason. I A J so. Illy loved you to you had that .

broad street bully game. That's why, that's why fairly love you. You had broad street bully game. You brought .

so true. I'm becoming a star like that very. And dc is older. Mode is over. Baby genrich cheeks, they are all get rid of retire we got number one picking a dry and i'm like, finally finally i'm as that when I get a yes so .

we go out celebrate .

mean somebody gas because we like to borrow we go get bread authority so I get dropped off. I take about three o clock and and my phone rings around five. Dirty is a great read field jazan.

And what the hell he's like? I need to talk to you as important as is what's going on, he said. I want to talk you about the trade as have been trade, he said, six is traded.

Someone breaks in the drive as as a field. This six is on dead day. I'm stupid.

The one pick at a draft, he said, yep, has a field. Let me take a show. I'll call you back in thirty minutes.

I take like a two minute because I like, I want to hear a down story. We d have dam stupid. Yeah, we traded the number one pick in a dry to leave them for a garden.

Or hanson, who was a good solid player, good guy, good solid player. And from that point, my career pillow dies, went down the toilet IT IT was brutal. I mean, I was so big, I end up with now another four, five years. But we were not in good. But I was just a chance to hold dynamic my career.

Yeah, no. Then bread darting into, have helping the caves late .

in the eighties and nineteen. Yeah, I to go to work with I D go to war with a new bow.

Duty manou was a great gas, a big man. I was a big man and a great do, one of my favorite team. And i'm like red d manufact. That does A.

There's there's .

a different the six hundred times one would just fun to be with you is just want to say his name .

not we're .

back on the NBA. I got ask this. I mean, we get the NBA finals going on.

You have gone on record to saying you think it's going to be gender. Do you still feel strongly it's gonna denver? What makes you think it's going to be denver? The case I .

still feel really good about the nuggets. Honest came too was i'm not ensure what to heal happen game to what I can.

Baby came .

out flat. But you know what? Our situations not like your job.

You guys as job like one and done is a little bit different week. We can lose. We got love four times, so I look different.

So I will give a pass on game too, but they ve got to win one of these next two. Two, they have got a more talented teen. But the ma he that was great about sports, they have got a great coach.

They've going play hard. They're going to play smart. And that is a more dangerous player sometimes. And the guy who's got a tremendous of talent, who's not going work hard all the .

time there there's an age to miami right now.

Yes, this is a focus. Quote, quote, heat culture. They only a certain way.

I I use this analogy. They're gonna dress sixty five. Not going to ratify, not going to draw the fight. But if you don't play the whole time at that level.

yes, consistent. What should we stop counting out? Jimmy buler.

well, no, you got ta lodge in my butter. Thank you. He's unbelievable, but I will take and their role players, gay Vincent k. Of arden, I have .

an unbelievable find.

the best player for the heat, the first .

two games .

i'm against. Man, this, he represents everything good about sports, everything good about the NBA. I think having him as that wanted to face of our league is gonna great if take a when this thing. So, uh, i'd like, I never care who wins, but to have Jimmy or joker as the face of our league, because one of my you gonna win, I think would be great, is gone.

Be great for the NBA love to you. Ask.

on behalf of what we're still on, Jimmy, on behalf of sexes fans, I gotta ask this question, if this sexy team has Jimmy button on IT, are they still? Are they still playing right now?

They want, see this, is this. I'm so glad you a question because i'm so disappointed in a band Simons situation because the sitters had to choose between band Simons and James, but and obviously chose wrong. But what bows me about to be and Simon situation is as an organization, as a coaching staff, they just asked him to get Better at basketball, right? And his response, well, here's the middle finger.

I'm not playing here in the mall and i'm like quite a minute would depend you forty million dollars a year. They have the right to say, hi Jason, work on this hey, travon this as a player your first response should never be, i'm never planned here again, right? And IT makes a Jimmy buta situation look even worse from being simson standpoint.

I'm like, girl man, they ask you to get Better at basketball and your responses screw you guys. I'm not planned here in a more so the whole thing same thing has really i'm so disappointed as a player, right? Because if you if your coach ask you to get Better as a player, I mean that his job.

I accept the chAllenge, baby, who does a love, a good chAllenge to get Better at life or get Better at your professional man. I'd draw for coach read, to get all my eyes about doing something .

he didn't Better. You look at IT, he's probably ruin his career because now he's got the psychological block now when he's scared to shoot the ball. And I know he's got another year at four and million dollars who got at least one more year to try to get IT right.

But he play is like he beat this year when he's afraid to shoot to all. He scared to shoot free roles. This might be his last year .

NBA crazy to think of all the go back .

to go back to the joker. I know we had to talk a little filly ball right there, but go back to the joke. Um you don't see a lot of big men dominate the game, or a lot of big men getting the ball kind of ran through them in the offence. Um kind of the vocal point on the officers of side is is the big man officially making its way back into the league because I feel like a kind of a kind of honor mellowed out there a little bit because a lot a lot of team saw what the war is were doing what the spurs have been doing for for years where they would go kind of like that. The four, four smaller guys and yeah smaller, smaller players and kind of worked the ball around in .

a lot of fast breaks. But the joker and mb, to such great players, you got to use them. You know the small ball thing is the war started a small walking and had great success and they've been grateful to league. But like you have to have special, you forget to have, you have to have the two greatest shooters that way.

just run out there with any small way.

You what is actually proudly wanted issues in india we have today, everybody is trying to be like to war is without step and clay, while we have so many peaks and baLance on these three points. Student situation like me, I, you can be good as some trees make up in clay. I want him to not a time. I don't want some of you other guys student trees, but man a joker. And mb, you can, I guess you can do you on as an a self.

P oh yeah.

But we other than net, we still don't have a lot of big gas because the tree point shot is here to stay. Is probit overused to a certain degree? But hey, I know. Then I can watch that joke to do his thing.

And it's a beauty .

fun that .

what is a beautiful?

And he's such a great care too. I mean, he's just such a great humble care.

You've got to makes IT easy to reform.

You do. I can play basketball.

What do you say to the people? right? Others saying the finals are lacking the star power.

No, the Brown, no stuff. I mean, I feel like this is how stars are born, right? I don't know what.

yeah. Hate that when I hear, because, yeah. You have to earn the right to get to these points as as players.

We, you, you guys earn n the right to get to the super bowl. Travel, earn the right to get to the super bowl. Think if you just want to say, hey, let us put stars in the every year like, no, hey, no. right. Beauty of sports, that's that's what I love IT.

Like, I don't care what neighborhood you come from, no matter how rich you are, no matter what color you are, don't matter what religion you are, is like he let just go play in the teams going to earn IT, going earn IT. Yeah, I hate when I hear guys on the media, bad mouse, small markets. Like, come on, man, I love watching greatness. Yeah like the super ball. I bet on the eagles because i'm on eagles fans come.

We can't .

keep in the IT was a heck of a game. IT was a heck of a game. And like as the the team, the best team one in my, I mean works IT costs me money. You can pay your bag.

Just i'll get your bag. I'll get you back.

Brings on you at the pub. Okay.

fired up. There, go. There.

go. That's what sports are to have the nucleus. Think about IT. And this, what pisses you off. This what pisses me off. If you can give the miami heat credit for what they do IT, you're not a sports fair, right? I mean, you if you can appreciate what Jimmy Walker box, the new york mix and a bus on setting is some wrong with you. You can't call yourself a sport span, okay, there with if you can appreciate what the joker you mean in tomorrow murray, this guy has been out of last two years because he blew out as nee, yeah, appreciate that you love to see IT.

It's just .

something like, wait, don't tell me you'd like sports if you can appreciate what jimp let the he doing or what joke into mom murray and you think about this you've been out of basketball for two years. They put out .

acl yeah so long time yeah .

I like and you know when you get hurt, there's never a certainty you go come back and be as great as you once were I mean, because you never know. And but what these two team as a compress is great for me as an academy. But now i'm just a pain like my team that in i'm just a pain and i'm loving what i'm saying. It's going to be a great story either way, not be a great story .

either way.

Do you think there ever been an A, C the team to when the NBA finals? You know.

if that like I don't know there's something c ever got this for before?

Yeah.

yeah. It's crazy. I don't think that .

there's something .

they said that would be the forest team to beat, like teams with the top three records.

Man, that's crazy.

But they beat the bus to be boston if they be deer. No team has ever beat a beat the team with the top three record, N, B, A before. Wow, ah that be amazing accomplishment.

Well that's i'll tell you what it's hard, hard to bet against the storyline like that man .

IT is hard to like I say, whether is Jimmy or or joker, it's gonna an amazing story is going be an amazing story playing a sample. I mean, I say I can't wait to west game tonight after we after we go into the cast because the next two games that has got to win one of the next two, if they are gone to win this series, they can go down three. One, they got a way, and one of the next two games.

yeah, they're got to get that home court back. Well, you are. Let's keep this stain movement in check. You are talking about how you are following. You are going down to florida to see if you staining cups gains to an N H L N B A says a fan .

and know i'm so proud of our network this at first year with hockey yeah I .

about to say when you get IT, did you get into IT because the network got into IT?

Or were you always a hockey guy? No, I like hockey a lot, but I see us. I made mod network, got to send cup files in the for the first time ever. That's .

pretty special.

The next to the ovis wain, greasy a Henry lunes, ah know those gas, so we hang IT out of a .

few more childhood vorst.

Ah yes, we hang IT out in between periods. My boy rick time gotto head coach job is tell to be what to watch for. You gona watch his kill a car.

He's like he's a stood. He's his. What watch what he does he's trying to explain again to meet up with my as .

a most .

visible player ah so I I just to support the team so good you know when grisi e was my neighbor and my boss com is he I need you to talk when Grace kin to do and hocking, i'm like, okay.

your teenage now you .

think like what you think about doing television. I don't do television is I know my boss wants me to talk you to this. So let's sit around and drinks some most ancient beat and.

They would go i'll get IT .

done that one now watching more hockey.

What playoff s do you think is more interesting or or exciting NBA or na jo.

I don't think there's anything more exciting and play of hockey. Yeah, I don't have that first. There's if I remember red, that's been eight to ten over time games which over time hockey and what games went.

it's really crazy.

And I the .

overtime.

hong, nothing Better of the free time.

So you they in a fail, you know, they get they they got out these wacky rules. They can change to trying to figure out how to do over time and in in a feel, yeah, there's no, there's really no right, a wrong way to do IT in in a fail. But man, in N H overtime, hockey is crazy, is unbelievable.

They gotto figured out they ve got IT they do out. Are you are you familiar with all the rules and everything in hockey?

Yeah, i'm for me what all the rules, but he just many times i'd like to b to hell out of check and only get two minutes in the.

I been posed, proposed that rule to good deal rogier day commissions to the infilling you get one hockey, find a game and there's nothing like IT. There's nothing like IT.

You you can tell the guys who really good to find.

they they got .

techniques.

They have got no jeet. You can just tell, like this, he is a fighter. You can just tell. And I then the words to go, who can't fight, trying to beat one of the guys who can't fight, go, you go to learn how to pick you about us. If you gotto fight.

you do, you do. Let's go down the the career rewind here. Need to take you back down the good days and then he was this section to to get in everything um i've ever wanted to know about playing in the N B.

A. As we grow, you big guy, one of one of the things that we love to touch on is the draft day, baby. And you you were drafted in one of the most legendary drafts of the entire mba's history.

Can you tell us a little bit about what you were doing on draft day and in whether now you knew york gna get a selected where you didn't? I mean, the eighties, the eighties was a whole lot different than than anything we know about. Obviously, we were talking to our guy shanin sharp about getting drafted in the eighties and and it's nine day, different city.

no erratically.

my focus.

so so as as I get shot. So I was about three hundred pounds in college. I think most people know that. Yeah, I was going to round two ninety five, basically. So the sitters had brought, fixers had bought me in for a visit.

And honest says, hey, everybody concerned about your weight and IT was like, I take a hair like six weeks before IT draft. He says, we want to draft you, but but we're concerned about your weight. He says, we want you to go.

When we stopped back here the day before the drafts, what we went to new york, we want you away, two, eighty five and after, okay, so I get down about two, eighty five, eight, three, somewhere in there. And thereby agent says to me, not sure you have to seven, six to take you. They can only give you a five thousand dollars as a, what like? They have a hard captain.

N, B, A, so if you get drapped about the six years, you want to play your first ship for five thousand dollars, oh my god, five thousand dollars I could 的卡 the machine college。 So we we got about three days before I had to go back to filly as well. I want to six as to draft me. He says what you want to do so he says we want on to eat bench. No way we want .

to like .

in the morning, you know, to get to grand island breakfast and everything yeah, all three days, all three days. Yeah up and fairly our way to ninety eight again like I was two eighty three, two, nine and nine right in there and I only call me every name in a BBA. Ba ba, ba, ba and cdna person knew this is me in my egypt, though that's music.

He curses me up and down. I leave. And who we? The bullet? And if you go back and look at the tape, I just look on my face when I say what the field overall pick in a dry to fill up the six elect Charles backup. I got to look up.

how did this happen .

so .

backfired.

I did everything I could not to get draft that they still.

We go down to fairly end up train a two players. So my first contract end up being four years, two million dollars. But I tried to eat my way out of. True story.

That's amazing. Yeah.

it's so great. awesome. That's all. That's what that's that's how you get drafted right there.

You the best thing I have to be professional career moves along. He's about foreign, capable, important person in my career. You know I wasn't going to play because I was held about two ninety five when the sea and started and a couple of month and I act most IT could most absolutely the same building idea.

Yeah, I went up as the most when I come see you tonight. He's sure Young fellow as the most obama and not going na play. He is, son, you fat and you lazy.

I like what he said. He said, you fat, you lazy. You got a lot of tell of you too big can play at that way.

And I was devastated. I'm not online and hurt me. Yeah, he should take some. If you want to lose weight, i'll help you. So guys, the this guy who's already hall of fame on the back end made me before practice, met me after practice. He said, let's lose ten pound.

He gets me two, nine and I could feel like a diff as work and holiday dandy says, let's get to two eighty and I get to tuition he says, now mostly going to play. He's, let's get the two seventy to sixty and up, get the two fifty and arrest his history but if this got, and that took me under his wing, I don't know, you know, I don't know how that works in football, but I can make ten fifteen gas. Who eight? They were out of N B A prety. B two.

two thousand is about four away.

The most important person in my basketball career, because if he did not get my fat as in shape, I will know where I would be. The day plane us .

is IT a crazy. How veteran? And I don't. They're sudden. When I first came to filly, I was blessed.

Have a bunch of veteran guys around me, but I got to a single out. Two of taught her mans and Jason Peters, the jp in particular. He was the first guy that really was what everybody thought of when they thought of being a pro.

Like, just show up on time, take care yourself, do everything right? But he also thought about the game as a veteran player. And I feel like come out of college, you don't have that in college.

There's nobody d's been playing the game long enough to have the same frame of reference. And I remember watching tape with him the way he would think about things, because, as before, you would only learned that, at least for me, from, like, a coaches eyes. And that was the first guy.

Or you'd watch tape and he did. You see the way this guys in the stance right here, you can only do this, this and this. You see the way the nose guard, uh, puts his football here every time he does that.

he's doing this. And I don't I feel like .

everybody touches on the value of mentorship, but that's when you know you got a good relationship in a good room, is when guys are offered that up. But yeah, I had never been around somebody, a veteran player like that. And Jason was Jason entire both. But j in a particular just had this way of watching tape and and thinking about the game and looking at IT way different than I ever thought .

or looked at IT. But yeah, I test that too.

is such a great point, because I one of my criticism to the N. B. A.

Has always been, these kids are taking out a high school. They needed a ground person in the room. Um, I said, I had moses.

I had duck. I had baby jone. I have a reshef. Andrew, tony, but what happened was they started taking players at a high school, so now they just got a bunch of them high school kids.

right?

You guys try to develop because they were too expensive. Has kids on the dog in the room like you say that was Jason and tight, like as when I got older as a yellow man. Let me teach you how to do this because and is valuable, and ask every body team to have a veteran, not just you men, talk about how to dress yet to know how to save their are money.

Talk about like you mean why you get that cars? Cars, right? yeah. dr. dr. J told me at one time he says, son, how many the cars you get I saw got four.

He said, why you need them? He says, yeah, how many can you drive at the same time? And he said to me, he was is not the fact that you can up for a car he says, demand you make now because i'm not taking about TV at this time.

He said, the money we've make now got to last us to rest our lie. You don't need one car and and I said he races, he just take those cars back and get that money, that money out as you put a rest your life. And when I have the Young people today as human, get one car is all you need. E.

you have a good to be one of .

you don't ask and listen, save your money, man IT only live forever, no matter eating all last forever. You got to say, like, that's what I think the best an thing is really important. And like to say for us is different because at least in your profession, you guys have to stay in kind. For three years we were dropped in cars at a high school.

Yeah.

eighty now, eighty a whole night. So I said that I was Better. I mean.

and they give you .

million of dollars at night. You don't know your eyes from a hole in the wall what I think i'm so i'm glad to you have a question. We need some your man. Listen to those veterans, I think .

is really .

important. I got to touch her because you said, given these Young kids that much money, one of my favorite things you said the last time we chat IT was on that same mold was a if you got money, time and bad habits IT in a matter of if matter. When we were .

just talking .

about how the league changed a lot, teams seemed to much rather have the Young guy that they can develop then have that veteran presence in the locker just because a lot of the veterans to mean they they get more established and or they are more establish and want more money. Do you think that's the biggest change in the league that you have played since you were drafted? Or do you think there there's something else kind .

is just so crazy now, number one, less these guys you know to have. I'm so freak O, I remember the first time I got made in may and out we will walk around half f of each other. With moses, doctor j and those guys, matt Johnson was the first guy to make a million dollars.

He said, for twenty five, twenty five million, no N B A player had ever. And this is, admit, eighties, no N B A player long ger ever made a million dollars. Yeah, know the year I came back to the N B A IT would mean Michael and the king.

We were the top in. Michael came one. Michael and sambo in everybody, the average in by salary was only two hundred and fitty thousand dollars. Today, the average in salary, the data average in the salary is like eight million dollars. Yeah, we have I take us so we have a hundred gas and we all got three hundred players, a little over three hundred. Yeah, you have a hundred guys, one hundred and fifty guys that takes making five million dollars or more out out of I think is you try that for a hundred but we have yeah a hundred and something one hundred and fifty summer making a five million dollars a more and a about those guys are making twenty and thirty .

forty million forty max contracts .

is crazy razing you? I've been all zones cakes. He gonna get five years, two hundred and twenty five me. And if you can get this behind and shape, i'm like I got to a shape for two million dollars.

Have to go down there, mother alone and down there .

and get just crazy. He's also like twenty one deal of a five years like two hundred and twenty five and five years. This next year will be five years like three hundred and fifty to me me.

I think this one is good man.

And you like to say, I don't hate on Young guys out, but I just want to key IT to be successful. But there is that problem of the biggest difference. Like when you see IT, like this guy is going to make bit in million dollars, that's crazy.

Like you see a libras, how would he were retired? I said he got two years, a hundred and two million. Dollars eat the next two years he can make a hundred and two me about us. But to play basketball here, going nowhere are.

He's not going anywhere.

Where the travel the country to stay at the four season and come to play back about three days a week. Sign me up. I know I won.

The money is definitely changed in the game, but was also changed, at least has shrunk as the the gap between us baseball in the rest of the world. I say that to say this because there's a seven foot three nineteen year old out of france, out of paris that's gonna drafted this year. We're looking probably going to go to number one to stay in o spurs, have you seen Victoria to say wimpy? Is he the .

real deal of you?

Okay, this OK. So, nike.

you to always take us at y's foreign countries, do the summer to explain basketball. This is the way before dream stuff. So I got five, eight, five, eight total N, B, A.

players. So we are in china. We in japan this one year, we go to germany.

And scope pipe was a great defender back in that day. And gear pay notice got. So we play the german national.

They got to simply do the dirty whisk. Let go OK. He's kick in our s he's Young.

Young. He had to be Young .

at that point because feel in high school be kicked. Weapon s and S. Was that cat right out like his name to to c he's gone in the army next first do so he tell not gone in a dam army as big target. So he finishes like he is like four against us that walk about your men who to help you he says, i'm dirty, noisy as you play ball over here he says, well, we don't have college, but next year i'm going to the army. I do, you self beitar and I go to the army so I get ninety to get this information because i'm like you, you coming to the states to play in my college, i'll make the numbers works, screw and got to love .

those S, C, C. boosters.

We may contact blob a, but bad. No, not like what he can get. Draft IT, oh my god. So he is drafted that neck the same year. But I would say, I don't OK what IT caused you go to .

my damn school.

I had a baby. But to get back to your orion's thing, i'm looking forward to see him. Victor wang, ya, I think, has a great situation to him going to disperse. You have a great coaching staff.

Oh yeah.

they're like to mind to heat. They are gonna teach him how to play basketball. It's gonna get some time and that looks kini his body .

like picture for leagues.

Yeah, he going have to it's got to be interesting. We're going have to patient. We're going have to be patient with him.

You know, spurs are not close to be in any good, but i'm curious to see, I hope is great because, you know, if he's great, is great for my job and MBA, it's gonna be a learning curve. Would got that skinny. I mean.

you need bigger boys. They not. I mean, they.

you know, they going to be a little a bit jealous because, you know, he's going to a number one, pig proud, get a crap load of money from some shoe shoe company. So the Young guy is gonna be test in him. So it's going to fun to watch. I can't wait to watch IT.

He doesn't. He will play the five though he'll play kind like the yani.

like a three four yeah, because he's too to i've never been in the first first why he pri can hold his baLance, try to post up a big guy anyway. It's gonna be fun to watch. I hope is great. I do I hope is great.

Do you we we love going down the lane where we're just talking about going down the career path. You do you have a welcoming to the NBA moment because Jason's welcome to the nfl moment was going up against ray lewson mine was given absolutely rock out and send in the next week by a guy named barr piled um who is your welcome to the NBA moment?

Well, IT was more recent. Lucas, you know, a big strong power forward and play, but a port and trial blades. So a couple years before I got drafted him and barrow dockers had to fight an outgrow and haymakers more really suspected to vegan and NBA are they wanted the .

biggest people like a real.

real fight.

a heavy way about right there?

Yes, big, heavy. wait. My was, bill wants enforcer when they go on a and I can say he had a reputation, both method maris.

So we play in the trio plays like my rookie ear and maris cocos, man and rips. I not, I am on the ground. I can be and you know, he did and kind of ran away in a heated a moment.

And I was like, wow. And and I am a bit i'm intimidated. yeah. So I pull a more. This is this .

in hot is this, is this two ninety? Charles barki is this, is this two fifty there?

Yeah, so I the moses, I put them aside to happen. Maris hurt me with a real serious elbow. I'll know what to do.

I mean, what what you think he is? okay? And we go back out there. And when you do this, anything i'd like you going in for a rebound, hit him in the back of the head as hard as you can. I didn't kind of turn around around other direction.

I for now.

I feel now I did. I are you crazy? He's like to move right there.

Do do what i'll tell you to do so oh my, what a form like i'm spinning away like I shook him up good to I ran down to all in he comes back down. He says, give me a pet on eyes. Just want to feel what you are made of. Young ella.

okay, I know .

this. Me, yeah, my place is like, came up to me. We became friends after is a test. This is just to make that plays.

that plays into my theory, baby.

terrible.

That that plays into my theory that we.

I think he turned into a good guy. Rest in peace. And but that was my moment.

Oh, i'll tell another moment. First time we played the lakers. You know, jack nicholson, see the riversides of visitors bench.

I go to check in the game because i'm not starting jack Nathan is Young Charles barki and what you son, welcome to the NBA. You can be a hello player I said, thank you, sir. I went IT after after the game.

I call my mom. I call my work. I call A, I call air one of your god. Jack, know, know who I am.

That's pretty cool.

I love IT they play the first first welcome to the league momi kind of plays into my theory of you didn't get welcome to the league. The league got welcome to Charles s. Barky baby and that and that plays right into IT.

He just wanted to see .

you got to, you know what I see.

you have to defend yourself but man, as you, I was actually hope and he said he .

was gonna yeah is .

a Young fellow you hit him as hard to you hate you is, can you know one day long? Because actually I had planned five jacked the bigger human bit and.

Say you.

that video .

is the best. Later.

I can let him help pop me up from the two thousand, eight thousand people. Yeah yeah. When he, when he do to bother me up back at him, I thought that was gone in the end because but I, but I do in MBA, they're got a break to fight out pretty quite.

Yeah, yeah.

No body. I want to fight big. And he's the biggest human being you ever going. See, that's some good .

stuff right there.

My.

no, we love the .

dynamic grand. Let's get inside the, inside the aba. A so you have this unbelievable NBA career. What I know, how did you get into sports media?

How long has twenty three years I and ernie and ernie to Better have met in my life? Cindy is also a day, you know, like, I forget about the bin was checked for like ten years somewhere in that range. So this been same, less don't a day that was funy was shed, was short.

First got a job. He he tried to do something funny like every night and would like you you know, we got like six more months shit, right? They like to produce the, have to say, jack, we don't have to outdo ourself every day.

He is, oh, what you mean? He is check, it's just october. We can be here to june. 告诉 the joke around the studio is was we're about a month up and jack said the step on fire because every week， every week he was like, let me, let me do this this .

week IT was crazy .

and he's Young his and then we realize like, no, he's going to try to do some crazy every night yeah and so we made up a joke, was like, well, how many shows and do you take a set a shop on far we like and. He's going to exhaust .

all other options. The only one left is going to be, have set itself fire.

It's a long seas. And brother, we not even the Christmas yet. You can out itself every single night. The job I said we I says how the game is the most important thing that you'd be perfect as you would do relax, you don't have to try out do so ah but he's finally real lize like okay you I don't want to do myself every week like no shit the days of baby.

do you think you're more famous .

for being a TV person out if you're plane in the NBA at this point?

Yes, because because what's really in like i've been on television or or three years now, and most people, the old people saw me play. None of the Young people actually seeing me play right. So so I think that makes I have to deal with like i've been retired for twenty three years. So those people are all in, they not round of be around. So all the Young people only send me on television. So yes, to answer you a question and that you know we know when you talk about retirement yeah that as IT is another thing you have to think about what is time to retire like you know, for most of my life when I met little kids, maybe like your Charles barker, i'm like you i'm Charles mark dies, meet you and then later my career like you to get for space jam like. That's I like, but oh, I think I can play in the more I become the space .

so you want I love that movie.

And you mention the interview you guys almost brought kobe on is a host with inside the NBA. But how did that almost take place?

Well, so I guess they have been mean with kobe behind the scenes. Yeah and but. Part of our job where to do several radio shows. And they always start, if you go back and look at you here sometime when I gone like Charles barkly gonna on night with T N T B A B. So I do not probably do in five, six radio and abuse a week is part of like they want care people when .

you gonna beyond for .

the show they .

on tonight blab a ba well, the kobe like, yeah, i'm not doing out those interviews like not as part of, again, people need to know when we're gonna beyond yes, that's part of IT like, I don't want to do all this stuff so he kind of got Better quit. He, he, he like, now I just want to show up on first day night.

Hi your fired on the day off.

Just show up on your old day. Yeah and you have to show up like, and we're like now, man IT doesn't work. That is not that simple. yes. And in xy, IT was really funny like so that he get party quit was the combination of both.

How would the show be different if if kobe was on there?

I don't think his personality what I mean like I don't think he's built to have a lot of fun.

Yes, I don't want to say IT and I don't think that is not meant in any like way. I was what IT is, he is the morality is, why is kobe .

exactly this? Why is kobe?

I don't know. Like I know if he was built to have fun. Yeah like he's a real seat. Like he's a great person. I'd like the rest in peace, yes.

But I think the real serious guy like and the problem you have, if you're going to do our show, I don't think people understand. We are from seven or two in the morning. Nobody want to be down .

a serious from seven to two. I told you steam room, you are any shake Candy you guys, I doubt and shut out all the announcers in the broadcaster that are doing the I play by play, man, but i'm telling I mute the game and turns to music on what the games on and then as soon as half time or pre game, where post game I turned, that cell starts may be turned that .

me back recited the word, uh, I do I you know you you know how much much love I gave you and your brother I mean, i'm just appreciate to be a.

do you know a big i'd look so let me ask you this before we get out of the inside the MBA, what is your favorite ite moment? Or could you list a few? We got a few here. The the police presence, the Chris paul clipper's tunal five. We got checked tripper while running to the big board to be kinda big board, kissing Kenny Smith donkey, a fat quality .

years going on for I never heard determine police pressers in the lack room. And I was like, the end of you tumble, there's a police presence in the locker room. I would like, what as we N, B, A player, these guys can't find a link. We don't.

We don't .

need to. That one was really good. The nights fail with his hilarious of my night that we did the when kini ran up about a car, that one was a very is the happiness club when I went, let me in that going back to what magic was doing the show. And they had a part, oh, one of my favorites. So we to work on new year's and I was pins because nobody can be watching basketball on .

new year yeah.

So they had set up what is set up A A, A new U Z party that we could go to after we get off. And these foods had taped, like a week earlier, and I raised over after the show to an every day room.

I was so .

peace. No, so they had, they had everybody dress up, they tape IT. Like a week earlier, everybody dressed up.

They put up new yearly balloons and everything. And I I feel nobody is watch. We know that the party can go as long as you want to.

And I race over there and is an empty room. What about you? Like, we take that like last week.

How about, how about somebody who was passed? Yeah right. But hey, that's the way we do, man. We want to make sure everybody have a good time. What about you guys do a great .

job with a big a let's a let's do just just a quick last segment here. Um this segment is called um you don't have to answer but we have to ask this pretty explained or we just got ta ask this question. Do you complete the father?

Say nothing at all but give us a good answer for me. Um during the ninety three N B A finals there's a room are going around that um mr. Michael Jordan and took you to play golf and actually gift to do diamonds or diamond they trying to get your head is that is that true? False you know .

to tell Michael was my one of my best friends. We put golf on hole. I've heard, you know, it's so fun. I'm glad to ask that question because I can put IT put IT debate IT. This is rumor and i've heard other people say I don't know the comment on rumors because they're so stupid because they just keep the far going like, yeah, what Michael took Charles out to play golf on every other day and bother him up first while men, mike had already made a pack that we would stay away from each other that doing the finals now he did give me your rings one Christmas that's a true story note this rumor that he took me go off and doing the finals and bottle me up is one hundred percent that true?

false.

I knew.

I knew what I did didn't even sound like something that could possible. But we had to ask, um have you seen pole Georgeous impression of you?

I have .

came IT came .

out last week yeah he came out on this his his podcast .

pocket p will go and play here for you just two yeah on .

a commercial yes .

SHE is because had a hard say your name, 我的 life up there。 19019， 欧洲 29， 是啊。 So so we didn't like， shoot IT together.

I want to see me for sure. IT, yeah, what do people Normally call you when they measure your name? I 是， so, okay, a mess up her name.

Yeah, I just tell .

jackie, do not fuck up today, say her name. Asia, take a little. yeah. My parents want to to be different. You know you, I want to hear some, Charles, I A A, 杰森， Jason, just how you say the name. Okay, thank you.

Is not bad, is not big.

That's pretty good. He had the delivery down and fun.

a story probably spouted thirty years ago. Yeah, now problem I am. I think I tell the time I get a call from, uh, john man, my agency gan man was to talking about some.

I like the great gan men. I would love to talk to him. He calls me, he says, most bark limiter man, as is an honor and a privilege blob, a blow, blow up up. He is, I need you to help me with this problem I got, I assure anything he is. We got to stopped this as whole, Frank Kelly and over do in person, 哈哈哈。

That's the person. The impression .

is what he's like, have you seen us is yeah and we us is. Yes, sir. He says we got to put them in to IT is, is ridiculous, is stupid. It's prety dam .

cool to me.

I love you did for you and I know .

how to get .

out of the conversation just like, let me figure this out uh, miss the man now get back to you but but you hate IT the impersonation but and I think in the time I want to do IT is flattering but man hait, I even answer the thing i'm not even I want to press john and .

now pretty right, you see pretty serious about them.

And i'll tell you what he was not a thing, Frank.

One of Franks, one of my favorite impressions .

of is I did not to get out to go. I I don't like this .

friend guy either. I would you .

every stake out, let's get incident. So the the term goat gets tossed around a lot. The best wife put too much stock into the the gold conversation, the the Brown versus geordan verses a bird magic.

I think number one, I think people with no talent try to start a debate because they wants you to call into their radio show and alder with them um guys on television who have no tell because they know people can store， tweet, name and doing all type of social media stuff. Listen, I think the best way to do IT is go to generations like korean was a bier Russell in his day was to go then the korean, then Michael, then kobe and then lebron.

You after I think you've been disrespectful to Larry magic if you don't make IT because you know, to have objects before magic Johnson and labor or the two most important people in NBA history, because those guys say the NBA IT was too black, two thug ish, too many drugges, until magic berry came along and they changed the entire entire dynamic of what the N. B. A.

Is today. Obviously, Michael is like tiger took IT to a whole another level. But if a one for honor, jack and gary player, those guys got the P.

J to going, but listen, i'm never going to disrespect korean. Obviously, Michael, the best I ve played against kobe was amazing. And lebron amazing.

But I don't to say who's to go. How many of people asked? We saw Michael, john and play who? I mean, they saw theyve been living in lebron era. Yeah, actually, like you talk to the older people, they said korean was Better than both of them.

So so I think I I do I think we make too much of IT I think is lazy uh because like I say, you you don't want to disrespect in of these kind. I'd never want to leave out magic and burg because dim gas here a time I keep people from, I tell them, thank you. Could they, may they started this whole thing going on with the M. B. A.

Yeah, yeah.

yeah. I with you, I think it's hard to do IT outside of different generations because the game is evolved. It's the same thing in the nfl today's game.

You can't compare cordoba s in today's game versus courtois acs that played even just twenty thirty years ago that I mean, it's it's just it's such a different time the game is called differently. The the players playing IT are different. So you can really only compare really what the guy did in his time and how dominant he was against his peers.

Yeah and one of my good friends is in my Smith pri got the only record has never gone be broken in an .

inner bail that's .

interesting. You probably .

right .

now again yeah .

what are .

much yes. I mean, so now every person record, I don't like to say I don't think they ever go run a football like they used to ever again. So especially with .

one guy, I just one guy like, was me how many like A A slow day for him was like, which one of five Carries like that's like a slow day for him is.

yeah, I got back. Now they can all, they can all play to one hundred and two, basically. Now that they can get hit in any more, I mean, I mean, bags now I don't know what the hell is rock in the paster? Yeah, it's crazy.

Your preach to acquire too right here. And we want to we grow up on real ball.

I think for a minute. And you never know when they're gonna call IT in like now that, you know, I have forgot because i've been retired so long, I wait back and I wait back and wash at last day day of life. They would be to hell out of Michael you. There is no way .

they would let any superstar in the league, upper country superstar, the league, get pounded like that .

gaming in staff curry, low staff curry. But if anybody with an extra, a common tells me steff kerry could have been taken, those leaks that Michael was taken, 好吗？ 正好。 And I love staff curry。 I never got about about staff curry. But the people can tell me, number one, not just the body blows the hand chicken where you could just hold a god, he just could move, but a steff curve guy hit like Michael was gone, hit, he got broken in half. That's so that's a .

tough due to man these you go in the .

I never take you .

to the right you admit the .

game change and not be IT in a native way.

I got one more question in this um we got ta ask you don't have to answer section if if kids nowadays were to google Charles barki highlight what moment and Charles barkley career would you want them to .

see is is a you thrown on the .

ball shack or .

one moment as four is basketball is proudly happened for the olympics let me take IT this guys, you can't do IT in your sport yeah the man, the nebris s is the most may like the lebron s and final four weekend are proof two of the coolest things i've ever done in my life.

There's nothing like represent your country yeah that there will shock you the most like when you go around the other athletes and they're like and they are from some country and you know they got zero chance to win in like the actual goal metal yeah they're just telling you how I this is the greatest thing I ever happened to me in my life, represent my country. And you like what you you guys in america, you guys don't get that you have the greatest country in the world. I'm from some pull up country. They tell you that you like they .

are the one thing in that.

yes, you guys, america, you have the greatest country in the world you don't understand. In my little country, I got zero chance to win in a middle. Me making a the olympics is gonna make me a national treasure for the rest of my life.

And you like how, man, we've taking this stuff for granted. You see behind me, uh, this flag. Yes, I sold this flag at the nine hundred and ninety two dream team.

Two tree.

yeah, on on the first dream team in the ninety two. And very alone, a spin. And everybody is, son is, in the time i've got to do interviews, I do IT in front this flag because no one is is the united stay flag. With this thing right here is got everybody who played on the drain team 啊 IT IT means a lot to me 啊， because I can say there's not been built and represent your .

country and gas.

And we all been really successful in our life when we talk about when you own the podium and planned and aslam, we all gain goose box and my goose box. Just thinking about magic Johnson, David Roberts and patch guys who are also successful. Yeah, when you stand no net podium and their planned in nasha. M A man, IT is is a good goose. One moment is ridiculous.

Man.

first of all, that might be my new favorite sports memorabilia to tell you. I even more that I mean talk about having the fourth thought one, your a member and I think leading score of the first ever dream teams that accurate.

Yes, yeah.

yeah. And then also have the fourth thought, the first all steel of on amErica play and then have all your body sign IT so that it's as the first ever dream. I mean, that's an insane .

piece of sportsman.

Good, i'm shine.

You know he was was crazy about IT is we didn't know how big the lips were gonna a beat, to be honest with you. Yeah, we like because we had never banned before.

Sure, 下午 we get to.

we get to bars, alona. We get to bars, alona. So we get to hotel. There's five thousand people standing out there just to watch us get up and on and on a bus every day. But party.

that's easy. Yeah.

but what's crazy? So we get right. We go to practice, we go to again, there's a police car in front, a police car in back on the side. There's two guys motorcycle.

He was got a machine and on, he said, along the highway, there's hundreds, there's hundreds of people holding up signs on the highway rush in the time we went on the highway, there was, i'm not even joking, two or three hundred people, just an obvious most of, say, joburg magic. And so we will get together like you, man, this is A A big deal because we didn't know how big git was gonna be until we get to. We didn't know was gonna be five thousand people send outside the hotel hotel.

I mean, and so we realize when we get there, like your man, this is a really big deal. And from that point on, like yoga, we represent to the united states. Let's get this thing done.

Let's have a fun. We had so much fun. But like, say, I say the olympics are the coolest experience that i've ever been to in my life.

Well, that .

settle the train, we might not be able to go there. football. So we ve got to figure some meal.

And is that cool? We got a good. What's the easier for to try and just pick .

up and very far love at .

twin curling and dusting?

I'm not a good duster.

so I might not be curl and .

we will try. That's IT, man. I can tell you how much we appreciate you coming on the show.

It's awesome to witness to you at work, talk to you, like for you to beyond the show. It's it's I can tell you for build travis on ize perspective. This is like a dream come true just talking to so thank you so much.

stuck. K, thank you.

I A lot of love and respect for your hey, i'll see you this uh h trial. I'll see you in three weeks at the man then we got to get together at the perp one night and pound a few brother.

I drinks on me. He has we said before I got you, i'm going for that.

Thank you for your time. Your stories is your just you being you biga and even even when .

you're .

not a role model baby, you you presented yourself and and gave a half val image for two Kelsey boys growing up. And we love a big guy.

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