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Boys and girl is welcome back to new hides a joke original al show presented by way sports and entertainment brought you by our friends at nerd wallet. We are your whole some travels kelis my big brother Jason kells's at a woman. Hi ohio.

Please subscribe on youtube and wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media platforms at new heights, show that with one us, this is a very, very special episode. Lazy germen coming to you on a monday. We've been asking you guys, and you guys are gonna get IT. You guys have been saying who you want to be the next guest on the show and um Jason.

why want to give IT to us? We got to do see here our next guess our guests today is the six fat six tightened out of woodland hills high school. He is a five time probos, four time first pro super bom ion roy, the two thousand and fell come back player the year.

He's not the fake, us. grow. He's the real deal. We got the man, mr. Rob B.

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Jason, you got some W W, E.

and you. Jason, well, I mean, I could do the promotion, but after my knees and back and .

everything know IT before match, be introducing them .

before from there I do that. Are you ready to.

Very, bob, we appreciate ate you comment on the show dog. This is not a interview. We're not professional enough or even smart enough to conduct an interview.

This is just us kicking IT havens of fun. Three guys played in the league that they're going to talk about our experiences in this shipment. If you have any questions or want to audible, just let us know. dog. But first, Jason, we ve got to start with our favorite .

segment as right. As always, we got a special and coming up because this is the new news. Rob gn.

classy version. Get ready to get in on this.

Do you know what the new news is about? You're ready how we going. I'll start up. Let's go. But first has always no noise, no news.

no news.

He's a natural.

his .

nature right now. Everybody knows listening that travis and I started our journey to the super bowl, but grog is just announced that you're already going to be there. You'll be back on the field to attempt a few goal live during the super ball.

Have you okay first? So have you ever? Have you ever kicked the few go? Like, are you like, are you experience in this?

Are you a special teamer? We did. No.

no. Yeah, i'm not such a teamer. Now, when I was grown up, I did that pump passing kick. You guys have doing that before?

The andy read.

yeah, the andy read, he did. I've done that before, but I don't have a film like andy read. But I was all like in new york that how I I got my brother actually made IT to the regionals and the championship, but he had to go to Jackson.

Bill, when you throw the ball at half time, you're to play. But I was also the kicker at my high school team. I went to wooden hills with that introduction my senior year in pittsburgh.

But I actually grew up in buffalo, and at the school in buffalo, I was a guy that kicked off the tea for I attempt to one field le. In my life there was a thirty three years field al. And I actually hit IT. So I got one.

How far is IT going to be at the super?

So that was a thirty three yarder I hit in high school, but at the super bowl, yeah, that's right. I'm taking the shortcut. You guys got to work your ass off next with super baby. Taking the easy route.

do you have the right set? You get some circulates. What are you kicking with?

I'm going to be kicking, I don't know. Yeah, man, I actually just wore my game cleans out there. I I want to walk cloud fuelhouse today.

I actually practice up there. They let me in, and I want to be trying, I want to be going soccer style. I.

to be a little old boot square on.

yeah, that's what I did in high school. I was score on high school. I want to learn.

I got a kick in socket style. Could now the square I want. I'm not even that good anymore, kicking this straight out anymore.

I mean, high I was, but I lost up. But I got against more component. I was fifty, fifty today.

It's only gonna a twenty five garter. I got another month of practice and i'm practicing again on sunday. I'm going to have the, you know, here up after in the next two days.

I like my grey star hurting after, like, yeah, I starin slap. So I just took off. But I want to make the shades for america, baby, ten million times.

I .

love that. You say you're going to hit up, uh, you're kicker. You say you're .

GTA hit up vegetating. Yes, I did. I actually saw last week, two weeks ago when we actually shoot at a little commercial that i'll be airing in the next two weeks is called IT.

It's a training montage for the kick and in public some tips. And I just went to the field house and applied those tips. But he'll be practicing, he'll be teach me and i'll be learning .

from him over the next .

two weeks as well. This watch.

yeah, if I have a kick tomorrow, man, I don't know what to get. Some kickers are frequently sloppy, man, but some going through still IT doesn't matter. They've been going through.

But we had the time, we got some time.

The matter house a million dollars right there baby.

I love you. I love IT. Um also we got, we ve got to let people know the suit ball will be the return .

of my .

favorite what I man, I tell you a big dog, I wish I could go the famous and the infamous grog beach baby tell .

everybody who .

you .

got on the ghostliest man who's all showing up well .

we got we actually have a great you performing less go and on. And this year it's all about the music choice of man. It's all about, you know, getting the last stage.

I mean, I can only do so much. My deals can only go so far. I T is that was amazing that you showed up at grand beach at the nf draft the most so much fun. I don't know that what's that dance, but we were doing like that.

I just call IT the drew in the alex band, the jin alex right there. May they .

were change smokers.

baby. They had that thing rockin.

And now for this one, the artist line up. And I think it's going to be the best one so far. I mean, the headlines going to be twenty one sage. One of the test.

I think I think I saw a did low on there too.

Got as well. I mean, he's the top five D J. He's been at grank peach before.

He loves. He's at the first one. And I just a man. And then we also got little john baby.

Oh my god.

you've got to read that math. I think you got surprised. You remember that with Jason.

That's like my whole pre game list. Like all just nineties and early two thousands crank, you is pretty much good.

And obviously you guys got wrote to the super ball by, if some reason you two don't make IT, you guys have the wide open, invite the ground. Peach.

you can count me in their baby. I, I, I, I, you're not .

in the big me deal.

awesome.

You what was your favorite ground piece? Because you've doing this for a while and those of you that don't know exactly what grand beaches want to go, I haven't give a give a little taste what exactly IT .

is our grand beaches? Just a little many music festival, uh, design you know, for nfl fans out there, for music fans out there is a music festival and we just bring a couple artists to perform. I just go up on stage as well.

Do some dance when was bringing the energy all if I could sing in DJ. But you know, that's just not my style. What guys fist pumping in doing the during dave so much.

And we've done two of them so far. We did IT the first time when I when I took off that year. We did IT at my in miami at that super table.

The super boy you want know? Yeah.

walk to the super ball clubs. James, there are, ask that one year against to the super ball clubs.

So you guys got enough.

You you are the you back of the Kelsey family, our meet up in the.

I had to walk a shame after that game in temple. I only want to talk about that. But last been a new news. We ve got a clock, officially a movie star. You're in the upcoming movie, eighty for brady coming out every twenty third, which is on the the twenty, twenty seventeen super people, right? That's with the atlantic per bowl.

Yes, yes, it's about atlantic super pool and I got a little part in and I mean, it's basically all about time. It's about four older ladies grama that they have never bent to a super bowl game ever, actually never bent to an nfl game. And then finally they decided to go to a super ball game and drive across the country to houston and and going to time and go to that super ball game.

And in the movie, they break in into the lack room after the game and there's like amand doll, there's Julian and there's time and they break in and then they also see me. So that's when our part comes in the play, Julian, Daniel and myself and that they come up to us in the lack room and we just hit IT off a little bit. They start flying with us, jane.

but you got .

the rap, man. You get me. Of course, I got to start flaring with you guys.

So it's going be good. I mean, our part is going to be great. I mean, that's what it's all about. Are these these super .

films man?

Oh yeah. Yes, grammar gram. They come in into a lot room and just putting their shot and it's it's hilarious.

Come on out .

the other third. I cannot wait to watch that. Oh my gosh. yeah.

Let's keep IT all.

Who's a Better to your time? Oh, myself. Yes.

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This is a the next segment of the show um where we go to twelve at topics grack. Jason leaves us off with the biggest question, the most important question of all and i'm sure you get us this all the time we're going to do in .

a fun way yeah you've been asked to a million times. The big question is obviously store the year was if rady made the call, you know you talking about coming out of retirement where I ve been taking this for wildcard weekend, so it's really not offficers ally ruled out yet um you know you treat IT out. I'm kind of a board.

I don't know there's within emerge they too yeah I mean, yeah well, I caught my official really. What I want to know is if temple winds this week is a chance, I see you next week, you on the field. Tell you to tell I be prepared for .

this well, yeah, I mean, well, first of that, i'm kind of boy was actually a lead up to the the kick of destiny that OK very good.

I mean, I can't .

believe how how everyone pick I going back the foobar I D never ever call my no, i'm going back to fall. It's always about something else. And no one, no one has picked that up yes, ever about yeah if if they win this week when I go back next week.

What's so great about IT, though, is i'm a total free agent right now. I only have to go back to the bug in the years. I can go back to another. I want to evaluate all the winds, and maybe I am with a team. Next thing.

oh my, he could be a fc .

or is going to be I be. There is no chance that i'm tiny. I I thought about that before. I'm like, what if I just become a region every year and just sign what a susuki all team during that by week, get about five days of practice and play like fifteen .

snaps in the game? Epic 问题。

That would be very, that would only only grown to pull that off. That would be something I may come on now. what? So you did come out of a time.

And once before though, how did that happen? Who who made that the time to see you up and you just decide to come out now? No, I mean.

he went through the whole process of going to our team. I talked when we actually threw in february before IT all went down. And I was like, I was actually ready for another opportunity.

I just wanted to test americans, see what was out there, go to another team and just see what I was all about. I mean, that's why I like to do, and I like to explore a little bit. So I actually told him, your man, if you go another team, man, I possibly be down to go with you.

Yeah, you go through the process. You do you? I mean, i'm that pretty no pressure.

You pick what every team you want to pick. Man, I know I already know you. You're going to do that. You're going to make the best you know business decision out there.

And after he made IT, um I was actually I was looking at like two other teams and then he went to the buck and ears. I was like the I only know anything about the body at. Time, don't play for them.

Two thousand .

thousand eighteen, no one knew anything about the like temp didn't even know anything about the box. They were selling out like seven thousand, like seven thousand tickets to a game only. But when he went there, man, I just did my research and I was like, man, this team pretty epic actually.

I mean, they got a team um IT IT was A A chance for a new opportunity, a new opportunity to blame room. And uh, I just felt like he was the right decision that you know go back to foobar and uh go out and and try on a new team. And you know after that after that year, I mean, obviously, I worked out very well.

Just me I know I know exactly how well that worked out. He was not onest ly. That was honestly the greatest football team I think i've ever played against. Dog, you guys, you guys were stacked by the end of the season. You guys were playing in fall football.

Man farm fence was playing so well together at end of the year, especially headed into the playoffs. He was just ridiculous. They are on fire. A line batteries were just superb. Or they were everywhere .

on the field.

That was crazy that they were everywhere. 对。

And you then know, I mean, even of the year before, that defense was lights out, really. I mean, there was only a few pieces missing. So when time there sign there, when you sign there was like men, these guys are going to be dangerous even before the old things started. What were the other teams? I got ta know you said there are some other teams in the mix.

Well, I just know I I just shot my shot the time, like, all right, time like this, like this is where I like, kind of like, prefer what I mean.

I mean, I just shot my shot to him. You know, he went to the whole process. I mean, I tell you truth, I know we talked to a few teams, but I wasn't exactly sure to the degree.

I mean, I just thought I was one of the best options once he picked tamp a two. Then I did my research and I was like, holy crap, like this is actually the best situation. And the my mom lived an hour away right now, an hour and a half a way right, and four mayers down the street too, so I could not have worked out any Better as well.

And every time I I always went to florida, you know, just take a flight, east coast time, same time zone. I always went to florida, get some sun by a three days off, whatever. So I was actually worked out in favor for sure.

And another team that I would say is it's out there was the raters. I was definitely haven't in play as well though, for sure. And each other.

and I would have been fun. Man, that would have have been fun. And I I was when they first went to be as, huh yeah IT was .

IT was going to be the .

first year and the gest grog .

beach all summer yeah, that's good.

Yeah, just i'm lucky. I make kinds of city you have ever wanted to play for buffo around area that's actually .

I am right from buffo in new york. I grew up a buffo bills fan. I mean my favorite player to geos bikes.

I mean, not the profile name as well. Also, they had eric mills, no. And really.

really baby .

and everyone. And was that was definitely when I was going through the draft. I mean, they were a pick number, I think forty, and I want pick number forty two. And I mean, they're also picked number eight but when they passed me on A I was like, I know I wasn't .

going but well, back in the back your head you're still like that kind this .

be awesome if they pick me right now these these assets, all I want to remember that was but yeah no, it's actually pick number forty one. They know they pass me and then I was past kind of how I do like I could not just played for my hometown team like they don't have a and and they last forty one and then the pages traded up actually, from the ordinators to number forty two and got me at number forty two and IT right there on the spat. I was just like, all like the bills, like they want to take me the same conference. All that, oh yeah, I was a gills fan growing up all way to that moment that that was done.

You are powers your power bomb into the a, into tables, and to flame me tables and all that grown up. Yes, 我会 赞赏 他的。

No, no, that was kind of hard. I actually think ink, because IT became hot to do that, a tail gates. But in file, that's like what you did. I mean, I remember that I was meant you. I would take fighting people thinking, I was in the .

w one hundred percent once we were on the playground, we were in the ring.

Yeah.

who were you replicate which? Which restful. Where will you be in?

Oh, bel Venus .

belt is i've .

never .

get a elvas.

I've never .

get a Elvis lady. That is so outside. Love that .

I very .

that's great.

Robert velvet baby.

let's go. Are also okay. Now i'm retired again, so I want to bring this back up and kind of a button bills fan now again. Now point.

they are fighting the watch. good.

How cool that would be to play for bills. I actually thought about IT when time retired this year. I was like, all right, like I was I didn't really feel like point football again after this year.

And I was like, I was like, time retired. I was like, let me I want to check out smother team. I was actually in talks with the buffo bills a little bit.

They wanted me to come up there. And I just, I just wasn't there theyll. Just of, you know, in my mindset was there I I would probably most likely be in buffalo right now, playing with the boat.

Holy cow, yeah, well, don't join him after this a bit.

Yeah.

you look at.

no, you don't.

I how is just kick the field goal.

man?

Do you? They got, they got good thing.

They got a good. Now, man, that would be freak, epic man. And I can only imagine, I know growing up, I used to want to play for the Browns, and then I got to the league. And I was kind of like, dam, probably no, i'm not going to say that so you beat this worked out .

well wealth and worked out well .

of us not getting drafted to our hometown team.

Well said perfectly say, well you actually beat me to our next topic, which is um a rone to draft day stories baby um let's take you back to the beginning you already told us about you know the inside on getting drafted or your view of IT jailor hurt total said he he was almost a stealer and pat tota said that he actually cheated he cheated his way into getting drafted by kenza city which we all appreciate if you and I A trying baby, you got any draft a stories outside of that one like any fun, funny interviews or anything .

like all yeah man, I guess draft the stories well well, first off they took A I was actually, I thought there slight chance I was going to go to since anadi at the twenty first pic. I mean, obviously coming out of college, you want to be a first rounder and like that's the whole goal.

You think you have to be a first rounder, which you don't even have to be dropped at at all in order to make IT in the, but you want to be first rounding to think you're cool. And sure. I mean, when IT really doesn't matter. But so they passed on me, they remain grasim actually the first title of the.

yeah, I remember that.

And I and I had A A just I want with since that titan coach, too. And now I was right there, the table and I was passed and my my brother said something I was like, I like, shut, like in my mom was so like, I never seen you mad before. Like, this is your first time, your mind.

I was actually kind of fish. But then my age, age was right there. He said, you don't want those since and that he, and that was like, all right, you know, and then I want, I got drapped in the next day, actually. And the first, actually, this this is legend dand, the first player ever to go to new york city and be drafted in the second round. You know.

remember you wear at the dry? I was a couple of days.

baby. yes. And then I when I got draft at the forty second pig, I started celebrating like a mam.

I don't even care. No, are no more that I was.

I was in the second around. I didn't even matter. He was just the best of all time, you know, having your dream come true. And then I got up on stage, I chest bump road, a good deal. And my brothers there, my family, we're jumped in up and down celebrating.

And then I get a phone call and I am like, hello and they're like and it's like and it's bills assistant, the gum barge about his name bears, he works, you are facility, write IT with the pages. He's the first room you go by and then to get the bills office, you're got to go through his office and like he just OK assist. He's up on day and everything and then I calm but hello, he's like, he's like, can you get off the stage and i'm saying they're like, get off to this.

So i'm already getting flock and yell that by the patridge. I. And you get off the camera, off the stage.

We don't want to see any more celebrity. And I mean, I didn't get that. I was like, okay. So then I just walk off the day and started jumping up and down up, down the road.

Yes.

they don't like celebrating.

The first is reduction to the picture away.

Oh my god.

I mean.

man never got me, baby.

Yeah, they.

I knew everything.

And because the second I was.

the performer was like, ocean, I can't do my, I can't do my thing no more. I was like, I have to perform. And actually that's what helped me perform, is like, and already to do all my, you know, my silly stop that I just love to do, I was like, I have to perform. I have to perform.

I had one running with the old bill belt check brother, and that was during the draft. I went in to one of those rooms at an during the combine. I don't know if he went to the.

did you go to combine? Yeah, I went to the combine. I didn't participle the only the benched press.

No, I would be probably ripped out, though I didn't. I did everything, but best, best. So i'm interviewing with with the patch and there's probably like five people. This is like the lost amount of people that were in one of the rooms.

Everybody had their front office coaches, like there was like ten to fifteen people and all the other teams rooms, but in the patriots is like a handful of people. Because bell check being in one of woman i'm sitting in there and his interviewing me and i'm talking about, IT is the most straight ward interview I had ever been a part of in my life. IT was, I want to say he was stale, but man, he was little static in there. And so I tried to like, light lighter. A little body asked me, I like to go into bar zan like, like the party that was kind of like the red flag was that I didn't foobar serious um and I auto IT was I believe right after you I just had elbow surgery and as like yeah you know i'd like to party in this and that I don't know if i'm gna be in the in the bars slee sleeping on but i've never the file so I don't know and when I tell you I didn't get a single like gramps up he just kept right and dude, just absolutely nothing and that interview ended pretty early IT and I realized I was like, okay, this guy doesn't like he doesn't like to .

fuck around the fuck .

interview up and I kind .

of ruiner for you because you said i'm that could be in a sling and a buy. You referred to M. Day little.

I know little did he know i've actually been .

in a bar with.

Actually lost at that night.

Don't tell the how many fourth. Round, third, round.

uh, I was second. I was second. I was said, no, I was, I was third.

I was there. I was third. I was third.

I was third. I was third. No, rob was second. I was third. First pick.

Know what? Fifth titan .

taking trip yeah that was so listen .

and there was like a good .

title was first one taking new draft ironically saw um Tyler effort got drafted by the sincerity bangles in the first round rc zek's went to filling Gavin escobar, went to the, went to the cowboys boches that interview to R I P. gabin. And then fans make downtown fans make download ent to the forty nine years, john a john leach and jim ball looked me up and down.

I was like, now i'm going to go with the biggest, strongly st. Guy in your class. I just, no, okay, fair enough.

It's good player. IT all works out in the baby.

You are no man and I could have bit happy or I land end up. And I know you could have been happy to be pretty electric. And I mean, i'm going to time brady to be pretty elected.

I was you. I was so happy when I got dropped IT here IT was stuffy, fulfilling, big time.

Well, you were the, you were the first time and taken the drift.

No, just did you .

miss all the question? Christian s head is, yeah, you know, we get hit the head for a .

living.

People like you that was stupid, rabbi, be like you not been smacked in the head like fifty times.

It's a permanent to get on a jail free.

Honestly and up honestly, I might blame Jason for more the hits than the n fell. But outside of that.

without, of .

course.

yeah, he finally was able to hold a zone in high school. But before that I was just, uh, I mean.

you you know what you see when you see the bullet and I am at a different fight.

I was like, the S. C verses, you know, mac comfort, you know, I was, I was an a fair fight. Know you could never give me like big.

the big one. Shout to the mac baby.

Shout out to max. Did you guys to get at?

We did. We did. I was. The only time on the field was me. Lunch happened.

team early bounce, napper and I would punt, and traps was supposed to play. My senior year. Some things went wrong. Was energy able to play. I already struggling ough in english.

The fact that they made me take french was absolutely ridiculous. I had no chance from the jump.

You were in algal in high school.

but we call the nl in cleveland heights, N. L. If .

you were .

in, he asked me a question.

I .

know, guy, you put, you had to place some. You had to place some high school bowl to your brother.

Yes, I did my soul where year in high school. My brother was, he was a senior and I IT was the best year of all times. We love you.

Well watched that. We actually played together in colds, and we both went to arizon and we ve got one year in together actually at the ebay. IT was the best time just having him around.

I mean, we he used to be be the crap out of me growing up, but then after you you grow out of that stage and we got to like middle school and high school, we we became best bodies. And then we just love playing on the same team. And we just said the same school.

He was A B, he was a bec. He was about six two. But he was, he was jack. He was like two twenty to thirty in high school, and he played line back and fallback. And he just used in drilling and level everyone.

I know a guy like that. I know a guy like that. He eventually moved the center because he could play line back at this level.

But I I sherman I think about.

no, no, I got you. You flag in bully um yeah Jason, you actually, how do I got to ask, how the heck did you make IT all the way to arizona from buffalo? N P.

A man, I actually someone just asked me that question. I actually today this morning when I was kicking my fuel les at the practices ilia boston.

I don't hear all.

So my dad, he's in the fitness industry. He's been fitting is retail commercial he's been selling, has been business for thirty three years now.

makes a lot of and then and .

he is so he's sixty two years in great shape. He works out every morning. He gets up, got work out every morning.

You get up. You know he loves that. He and loves taking to share IT off six, no one looked like.

He was peak caking I grow in beach baby. He was peacham .

and then really good friend that he um in the same industry, he met at one of the fitness conferences he when he just started and he went to the uva. He became really good friends with the guy. And then when he just became recruiting, he's like, hey, man, and you guys get your boys to you.

Va, and so then he was such a alone nie there. So he hit up the cultures like, hey, we got this guy that I know. So then I took a visit there. And then he was my first visit, actually, to go check out a cause. And I was like.

i'm way of the bo.

So is your eyes out here? So is your eyes everything?

everything? Then a lot of sun .

light out there.

Well, we just talked about getting draft to the patridge. Um so you're part of all the obvious, not one of problem. The best dnestr in the history, the nfl in new england, what was like walking in the facilities for the first time? Man.

yeah, I mean, IT IT was definitely an order. Just, you know, continue that dynasty. I mean, blocking at first.

I mean, I mean, I was just a quiet guy. I mean, you know, you're work a year. I mean, I knew that you can you really have much to say.

What if I mean, I did even play the year before in college. I actually got hurt my junior year in college and then left t early still and got draft and I was like, I even have any film. I haven't played football in a year.

I would just just basically just shut up and listen and learn. I mean, I was like that for know all the way until about half we throw my rookie year and still until I start opening up more and you know feel and more comfortable with the playbook, feeling more comfortable with the guys around you. And you're kind of in all too as rookie.

I mean, I got time bradies there. I ve got mad lying. I got I got just that whole dinis thing going on and just, you just sit in there like like in class like this like, yes, sir, yes. You know.

like I got like.

well, you know, until you make a little date, until you tell you gain that respect, until you can start, you know, really raising your boys, you've got to gain that respect. So that's all I was trying to do my rookie year.

And then about halfway through my working years, when I really started clicking and start gain the respect from like all your teammates and stuff, and then you can start opening up more about, I don't really understand like what the patriots was either. My guy I knew, like wherever I was going, I was going to just fall in mine like being next up, you know, at first until I get my feet web but and I really understand people. I watch the page away on my like I don't know, it's my first nfl like I don't even have time to worry about that. I got ta worry about the play book. I got to worry about what i'm doing before I think what the picture away is.

So what is the picture away? In your words? What's the patch away? I everyone .

always asked that man, like what? What's that is I love bill.

like when he that we want to know. Band, yes, I IT .

sounds so good, but I don't know.

It's sound amazing. I mean, I would just make IT a journalizing that the patriot is is basically just literally walk in. Fuck can come with zero excuses, zero fucking excuses.

If you come any excuse, then you're get the fucking out. That's basically what I was IT. Basically also was you Better show up to practice, Better show up to practice and and be ready to practice.

No doubt about that. And also, if you don't fuck up in assignment, a mental game, so that's basically some sted up right there. I mean, and if you do fuck up in the mental game, then you got another opportunity and you Better now look IT up next time.

So that bt basically describes IT, I mean, right there I mean and don't cause us seeing either like about football, I don't add anything. I don't add fuel to the fire that type of so that's kind of the generalization of what I was. People ask, you know that's that's kind of.

yeah kay, what was the like me, tom, do you member the first time you meet him? Like.

guess I do. So I was in the train room getting my foot tape and my angle taped, whatever and he comes up I hey, i'm time I was like.

A.

Play cool too. Introduce self, big fan, anything I was like, hi, i'm rob, man, but I was just a lead like, yeah, my D I know you found. Like, i'm in like, i'm being you somewhere else either like, i'm in the football city and then now what was funny is like a couple years later, new rookies came in and he still did IT to new rookies and I was just sitting. They're washing like their reaction and their life, they all get confused, like he just seem to to do himself as touch. IT was a good scene thing .

yeah that's how you know you're a next level superstar when you introduce yourself by your name and every like, yeah we we know you are man, you want to say that anymore yeah is there? So I don't know what. What do you guys having like such great chemistry is was IT just, you know, you guys on the same wavelength was the practice was IT .

all the above? H, yeah, I mean, not the wave. I M, I thought control. I was like, this is crazy. Like, like I just never really yeah I never seen anyone.

I like like like a decade like kind of I was like he's like a coach. Like like this isn't like my body you know like you're going into yeah you're expecting IT to be that what's that movie with? Jammy fax is a quarter back sunday .

and he give a sunday baby someday.

Like in my mind, that's what I was. That's what I right .

there with you.

That's why I was my first couple years in the other. Like that's what I wanted. Like the movies trick. So i'm like, everything is anything like any given sunday like i'm like, this guy, this guy, what can yelling at me?

I mess up just a tad bit and yelling at me like you over there, like coach yelling at me more and and then he took me a little bit, you know, to to realize like what where I was coming from and what the love was for. And I kind of felt like he was more hard on me at first, because I think he saw some town and me, man, I think he saw the opportunity that I had, that I was presented in front of me. And every single day, man, after practice, you'd make me stay, he would make up me.

And like two, the rocky station, he back, we're getting on the same page, and he'd throwing pass after, pass out after, without my man. I just took first team. I took second team and I took that.

They keep everyone .

after the rockies. And like second year players, what's I call .

again the mini I?

Oh yeah, yeah.

No, no, no. After practice, they bring, they bring over the got .

like to like fundamentals .

or something.

He was called, develop something.

And I did all that too. And then he black. Now you staying after and then born, i'd be running ten rods with him after the practice to, and that he would be called me in the meeting.

This is how I want you to run around. This is I don't ever want you to go around the guy here like it's a flag around. He goes, get outside the guy when you run a corner, if you go inside, guess what? I never thrown you the ball.

Uh, he just, he just always tell me the place he wanted to me to be, but that so much going on and that I flicking can get IT all down. Like, i'm like, okay, I get, I get that you want me there, but like, I can't get there. Like, I just i'm thinking way too much when you're thinking you're losing .

already and i'm just thinking like.

but and then after that.

I can click up to be.

He called me up to speed. His speed was ridiculous. Ly, when I first got there.

And then after a couple more practices, you know, going throughout the year, training camp, about half through my rocky season, and everything start click, and I was like, go Operate, like, this is what he wants. This is where he wants me to be. This is how he wants me to run the road and everything.

And then going into my second year, I was ready for, I was like, oh, shit, I got this game down to a science. Now I like people. I got IT down.

And then we work in the and then going in training camp just after practice every day. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. On the .

same page on him, did IT was every day he forgot you were like A O time we got throw.

yeah. No, no, no. I never said that. The day he forgot, I said I was like all, I was like, all thank you with kids are here because then he would run over to his kids. I like all thank you kids.

What what do you say that about time? Because we had to join practice against you guys, I think in thirteen or fourteen, uh, with the eagles. And that was the one thing everybody talked about after the first practice was in seven and seven teen drills like he's yelling you guys like no line up right here, like while the place to go on on and that was the one thing everybody mention was just like how much control he asserted over the entire office. As well as the other thing I remember from that training cap was brand and Spikes declaring a red guard, trying to book them like a toss play and and were okay because we get to strip up.

we get a tempo.

was a scary player. Man, that's one due in practice. I would be like, go Spikes.

I got you. I'm black and use play. I going to black you though, just put my hands up. Man.

he, we're about the union that we're about the union.

We had a few and that was one of the there's a few limbs aggers to stand out that we're like since I been in the league like they're like me that I brings IT and I think he's probably never one. I mean, when he came downhill, IT was ridiculous.

Give his number one by far, number one by far. Man, he he can lay the wood. And what's crazy, he is one of those players.

Men in the weight room, he goes in two twenty five on the bench, have put IT up one time and then rack him like, I saw I got. He was a wait room, strong and nothing. He just had that IT factor man.

He was scary. Just that natural IT factor. man. You stay away from those guys. I always do. I don't want what I like you, but I I like, I ate you in the back in game boy.

when he wasn't even like heat, the time he was even trying to make a test like the play he decreed tid, like that time was and if you trying to block up.

he would just like gressly players .

lay someone out.

man, that's.

Guys, me, we got .

to ask you this, what we're still the i've always been fascinated by bill because you you see these assistance kind of go everywhere and for some reason, IT doesn't pay out for a lot of them. What like what is that the unique about bill that allows him to get the most out of his players? Like, I think on the surface, everybody thinks I like this hard as like old school, and that problem is what he is. But I feel like there's got to be something else that makes him unique as opposed to IT just being the patch way or the .

system just gotta. I dt, I mean, he's definitely a unique coach for sure, and I really think he's I definitely one of the best cultures of all time, if not the best culture of all the time.

I mean, once I understood, you know, once I understood the playbook and everything, understood my role going in my second, third, you know, fourth year, I I was always dependent on him, you know, I was dependent on coach, about check, of given us the game plan. I mean, he always hit right on, right on the money, and he was always one step, two steps in front of everyone, like a new rule change. He would come in.

He would show the new rule change. You think this is what's going on? This is how you can work around IT know it's going to come up eventually by of this year.

And then like three games later, that rule, that rule change will come into effect. And our whole team would understand the rule and other team and that, that would just be the van. You can do that.

You can do that. Yes, exact, so unique. And also so he was just he always put us in a great position to win games.

I mean, he he knew the game of football, like no one knows. He knows every single position, what IT takes at every position. He put his guys in the right position weekend and without, I mean, yes, I mean, have the time the game plan.

I mean, I would be wide open. It's not like I was I was making people miss or are getting open. I want, I want covered. I would just be wide open because he understood their scheme. He understood how to get line back is where where I have to be in order, you know, just to get the wall, just to be wide opening. Just time dumpling to me.

So just the way that he started, the way that he knows the game, the way that he puts his players in the best position possible, the way that he knows the rules of the game, too, as well. He knows every rural inside. And now he can name that whole rule book from frickin numeral one to numeral like one thousand, however thick that role book is.

But right? And he just loves foot to. He's in that office about twelve hours a day, just studying and up and making sure everyone's assignment, everyone is assignment sound as well.

Yeah, huge. He's a defense of coach no, and he is on ah he's told everybody about your skill set. Obviously, everybody sees the speed, they see the size. But he was mentioning the catch radius. Is there like advisor that that lit up for me? I was like, man, I didn't realize how long this dudes arms are, how high you can, and realize how big a radio that is for a guy running across the middle of field. Is there anything that he's giving you specific, I know, is the defense of coach, but is there anything he really gave you that like open your mind and open your eyes on on the game of the position?

Yes, yes, I actually was one time I was kind of like every time I went for a ball, I wasn't really, wasn't really I was reaching out like in the dbs would hit my forums.

I mean, that's never going to get a car when one A D, B comes and swipe down like it's just pop by I mean, it's like little past in your friends but like it's just not going to get cod and you got to understand that and the kind yeah and he started, he started just amplifying me, emphasizing that I ve got to use my body more, and I got to shield them, mow, and I got to a fight back. And then IT was in practice one time in a couple of games, and he just showed me, you know, chop them down, use your body, use your leverage, put your shelter and me. So then when the ball comes, they can't reach to me.

They can't hit my forums because he can see that. He can see that. He is like, even if if you're covered, you just do that you're open you know just putting .

the place your .

confidence inside me because he sees it's pretty wild. I mean, yeah, I don't think you have he never played in the nf file. I think pretty sure play college foobar like it's incredible because of someone that never really had that talent to apply on the on a file.

He can see that talent like no other and he sees what IT takes just, you know get that extra inch in order to make that play or to win the game. That's that's one thing that stood out. And then in a couple games, I remember I spotted the guy down, use my body shoulder right there, you know, use on a smaller guy, and then the ball comes.

He can get around me, which I make the catch, even know the guys literally on my back. But IT didn't matter. I was still open.

That's like shack posted up in the paint dog. You can anybody get that rock with shack?

Man, jack pulls him up in the pain. I, me, that that do is just ridiculous. Man, and I love SHE asks game. I love watching them.

Absolute base for .

do you think you would .

be a surprise of time is up back there. I know we're still on this season. I think see all the rumors .

and those rumors he is going to the forty nine, there's rumors is going back tampa. And but there are actually it's only between the forty nine years tampa and new england right now from the media aspect. But I want one hundred percent be surprised if you went back in the england.

Uh, no, I mean, IT would be IT be not. I mean, that would be a crazy story. But I mean, you know, I just not that happening. You never i'm .

just just Brown .

my analyst, my analyzing skills out there. And now I think you know that would be a tough shot for him him to go back in the wind land. gop.

And hidden IT IT can be done .

yeah but um we ask everybody on the show. Uh so as you do, you have like an ocean, like we talked about brain and Spikes, like the an osha moment of like being in the nfl.

Yeah yeah, I do. I do. IT was my rocky year. I do and I was practice and I was that I was that play where, you know, it's called a one black. It's like at the center oh yeah and you let go. The difference attacker, he's running free into the back view.

They do on purpose.

I know they do on purpose. I mean trying campus of roche and vinyl fork. I mean, clearly.

All that .

that he knew he was common and that's the going .

to do IT because he he was bill guys, please not about, it's about duty. He was smart. I remember playing the guy.

He knows everything is happening. He I guarantee he knew he's like, okay, there's a title off the ball right here. I know exactly .

what's going. I also, they told them because I was like trying to close myself and i'm just freaking running. Everyone who like, let's see, I know what they are doing. I think they grack is going to try to one black you let's see what he's all about where letting you know like him up so oh my, just you go like steps playing IT like he doesn't know i'm coming full speed and I was like, I got myself like, this is wow and that to lowered his shoulder and just gave me the biggest hit of my career I want to find what about four years? He just started celebrating what everyone keep up to me and they were like, you know, something no one else would run into that guy and you just did IT and I was like, that's like.

that fuck can send rob to send a baby love that this world I can only fuck and imagine run that .

he was especially .

if you know.

and his prime to you watch as higher you like, do he looks like a receiver out there running .

was outrageous was so he's got more pics than some of the dbs did.

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doc flash. Well we ve got to bring we've got to bring up the titan talk um try and broke a tighten record this year. What a move as a tiny record or was just a regular record. But four touchdowns on twenty five yours one .

of the most bonds .

records of all no fit more out than a perception .

but immediately .

come right after any record that you or him break, you get the compares is like kobe versus Brown, like the moment one of you to do something automatically, the the a congregation for the other tight end is immediately. And social media and the comparison on's begin. Um is IT is IT annoying you guys that constant be compared to each other? I don't know what's .

that like go I said, oh.

my goi mean first. I mean, beginning in my career, I mean know what travis going to having its first thousand year sees and all that and i'm having thousand yards and he's coming on the scene because I was about two years ahead. And obviously, I mean, you're Young, you ve got that.

You i'm competing. I like this like, like this guy and take like, like, you ended up my game for sure. I mean, at that age you're on the last stop. I mean, you care at you care time on my, this guy taking my spot and and then he does IT again.

The next on my art, this guys for real though, like, and then it's pissing me off my is trying to take my I self and and and then, you know, over the less, I mean, and then you did IT again and then I started, appreciate I my, oh man, this guy, this guy is a real deal. I mean, travel a real deal for sure. I think he's putting up thousand yards every year, all these catches, touch sounds, all that good stuff.

He's leading the office and like I said and made me amp of my game and like I can't slack one bit like you always got someone coming for you always got someone Better, Better than you coming, you know, right behind your tail and you definite help my game a big time because I mean, what without that poison, I mean you're never going to get Better. And then that one year you broke my the receiving yard record. I was like a whatever, thirteen hundred yard and you get like four and killed the .

three one hours like these five minutes.

I feel I got ta get back out, if you know. And then you know, when you're that age, I mean that you got that thrilled and you and all that IT definite a chAllenge for me. I am without that chAllenge.

I mean, I don't think I would, but IT, as you know, as developed as as I was in, as competitive as I was for share. But you know over the last year now you know I see you just doing your thing. I mean, you like you got got seven one one thousand five seasons in a row.

You had over one hundred catches this year. I mean, it's just now it's so i'm appreciating your greatness, man, what you're doing for the position you know at first you want to be the highest paid tight and I mean your egos in the game and efforts. And I mean and I mean, i'm glad that know it's out the window now and makes me appreciate what you're doing as well.

Man, you're getting the tightens on the map you got you're actually you're making, I don't know, seventeen or whatever you're making this year, and I still think you around your paid for sure. I mean, you probably have more yards than any receiver the past five years even to find the Adams and he's made like twenty nine and thirty eight years. So it's just great what i'm doing putting everyone on the map as well and and can just continue in that position to greatness. But there is one top record that I do not want to see broken that I would .

probably about a week.

This was probably that's .

the only record .

where i'm still proud. But you can be you beat the hundred yard games in which I knew that was going to happen. I mean, you're going to beat that for sure. I mean, I was like, it's great next, I mean, you're doing great, but I like that touchdown record you were at. Well, this year.

this is my best run at IT is probably my life.

I do about week ten, I thought .

I meant I got a chance at least touch IT, maybe get more than seventeen, but I got a chance at least touch IT of I in that year alone, man, because I was before all these R, P O game, because that's where I get a lot of my catches are off these R, P. S. And stuff like the year you had with the, with the patriots, I think two thousand and love, no, yeah. And two thousand, two thousand and eleven men, you took the league by store, maybe let the entire league in touch downs that had to feel love zone day like that.

I was little. I literally live my life like that movie that we were talking about. Two thousand. I don't.

I don't really be you .

could ever be. You repeated IT IT was as well that mine said that I had, I mean, I was so beat up. To tell you the truth, they always incredible help beat up.

I was, I was, I was swan. My elbows were swarm every week I had, like burr sx broken. I didn't do one .

single verses. People don't real .

first. You called up .

in at least you, my son, in IT up where you get some blood low.

Yes, just some once called tow. Man, I didn't really know. Man, IT was.

IT was. Let me after the game, let me party. Let me know.

You know how? Some beer. And now from that, and .

yeah, I was like, just .

giving the ball just going to run full speed. I don't care. I'm taking these huge masses of hits.

And I was weird. I was like, I was one of those years where I couldn't even feel pain. IT was just a blessing the beyond the field and being that mindset.

And IT was just for me and I was weird. IT was just for me out. It's like, time I won't get open in the red zone no matter what that my set man was just incredible. I was twenty two years old and I just, you're everything really owned IT yeah.

Well, tell you rather I appreciate what you use, said I I don't want time to fly by and mean not say I appreciate that, but I definitely have been chasing your greatness. Ever sense that year, man, even because that was the year that I actually switched to tighten, was the year that you took the fucking and leave by storm. And I was like, I want to be that fucking and guy.

He look like you having a fuck out of fun and is owning everybody in the national football all league. I want to be that guy and yeah, I do i've i've been chasing you're greatness ever says, obviously still chase and they trying to get to seventeen at all. I still felt five short man.

I might have, you know, try to get that .

about a .

retirement again come this no, i'm only playing in the from the forty airline and I me a contract pay me whatever you think i'm right from forty hours and end .

you Better watch which you say dog, there's a there's probably thirty two tips and and take that country right now. Do you do Better to watch like that?

Did you IT so I try have obviously he's talked about in the show and just said, but he's looked up to you, were there any tight ends when you first came in to leave that you managed your game after.

yeah, a big time. I was actually thinking of that before we came on. I was like, this is definitely be brought up.

But I mean, I love only guys, Alice, when I was growing up, I mean, just where he played the game, he was a matter as as the title, but obviously, but there was one guy that I was like, that is exactly. But you can ask my brother, I go, he's crazy. This guys crazy.

He's party all the time. He gives, he gives. No cares.

And just take a guess what I was. You know what? Love .

shocky too.

The love of a how can you know .

you get ball .

and truck in the fuck out of.

say, is how much still running fighting people and put my favorite story.

not just loses how many keep running losers how many, and keep trucking like still using i'm still run to you .

here is so crazy. Yeah.

that was just a master, my favorite story. Why I love them so much too. I mean, that was coming out the you as well.

And the u was just so much like, just energy. You know, you just love that energy and football. And I was in college freshman year in this article, came out about, came out about germany.

Shocking how he's getting Carried out of a structure in vegas at a poor party because he's dehydrate. And I was, I literally saw the eric. I ran all on my bodies. I go, this is why I love this guy like I, I like this guy right here.

That's what he is.

Was he was any given sunday and that they .

maybe really believe them?

That's yeah I how do you I get to following up that .

just how much.

how much so one of the I kind of botch this earlier when I asked how many tights were taken the year you were drafted, but the reason I kind of asset on the spot was there were five tiens taken, but from the first round of third pic in earlier in travis draft. And I can't help you think that there were that many tighten selected that early because of what you were doing in the league at the time. Do you like I feel like the tight position like you. I mean, I mean, maybe you wanted throw tony, but I feel you really elevated what league wide teams thought about what the .

time grammy m was in there too.

Yeah, demographer you. yes. So I just think that, like, know you were one of those guys that elevated what the league thought of the tight position.

So how was the tiny position changes? Uh, thank you. Been, oh.

I think IT has changed romantically. Ly, actually, especially spreading the game out White. I mean, I started going out White a little bit.

I was doing IT in college. Actually, my junior gear IT was a whole package to go out wide all the time. Unfortunate, got heard. But yeah, with that draft class man, i'm telling you that I mean, I was part of one of the best draft classes I would say in nfl history just you know, and one of my colleagues I play with, you know, I would just say I play for those those two, three seasons and I think we just took that elevation to the next level, especially having a tighter and set. I mean, no one's really ever done that before and never brought that attention to the tight position.

And then also you had german grassland who had a great career since and had a Jimmy gram who is just absolutely putting up numbers as well. And then we had a couple other good solid players that played. And we're putting up stats like six hundred, seven hundred yard games just tightens our draft in the third, fourth, fifth around that year as well.

And I thought I was one of the best draft classes ever for, but just you to be able to put the tight and position on the map. I mean, that was one of my golds man for real. Like I wanted to.

Like, I always saw that the tight position was, know wasn't like didn't really get recognized. You know, greatness that IT brings to the table. And if you have a good tight end now, I mean, that's what every team is now going for.

I mean, and it's really difficult to find that you know a solid, you know tight and that that can go out there and produce. I mean, it's hard I mean, to be bigger and to be able to run you know pass db or and they are smaller than you and then also got these athletic climb back because you've got to get back. It's it's a difficult test.

So that was definitely one of my goals. I even told coach fair and he use he's office of corning, brian fares for iron and that he was my titan coach for his years and I was no, I put I put the tightens on the map, baby. And he's like all you're never going to get past js with and he he's just saying that to get me going, yeah, yeah.

I'm going in my second year. I knew that too. Going in my second year was weird. I just knew I was like, watch I break every single right through this year. I'm ready.

starts.

Yeah, I was man, and I just happened, man. And I was just a great feeling to to put everyone on the map. I signed a pretty, pretty good deal to that was very tight, yes, at the time, but I was definitely an hour to do that.

And I IT was one of my goals in life when I got to the ify to do that as well. Definitely hard work and in that crazy mindset that I had begin my career. But it's just cool now to see like, you know travel you your doing that now you're taking a to a whole another level.

It's not just like myself, Jimmy grandpa IT as well and IT helps us, our group out as a whole. I mean, the tine position got no respect ever. I mean, yeah, you had tony G U.

And tony o gates and then IT was no one else. You know like so then they let me get the respect that, that they should have been really get in. But just the way that we're bring IT to the table now you've got a super ball ring, I mean, shocking.

Got a super ball ring with the same. I mean, kittle doing a great job. He's put in the forty on the map. I think I believe you are off. You Better find a tight end that can play ball and get you some plays.

We'll speaking to that as the two, I guess, ogs of the new type titan. And are there any Young guys right now in the league that both of you look at and you're like they're kind of on the horizon, guys that maybe even people don't even know about?

Oh.

that I would yeah because you you never know how guys you know transition feel like the the .

first years going to start doing something .

first to prove that there on the man is a Young talent.

I even many Young right now. I mean, the only the guy from temple, because I watched temple a little bit, and I, what is name again? The one they took in the fourth round.

I know, is that you are talking about .

daph mob is great guy.

yes. Can I remember er's name?

So man, kid out. And that what's what is kid at and I think he's pretty good for the box bother and that I don't even know of a rocky titan that's let's doing anything. I mean, you have got kal patio Y.

I mean, I feel like he's just he's kind of like he's kind of like A A twin, like I don't think, yes, yeah, he's a tweet. He's he's not sure if he's a titan. He's not sure if he's a receiver. And if you get his game down, I think he's got you know he's super at.

but crazy upside.

craze upside. But I think you have to figure out how to use this upset for him to be for and this year, they think they downgraded because the that new coaches, staff for whatever don't doesn't know how to use his talents because he's not tight and he's not exactly where we receiver. So how do you use as talent as a question?

That's a great pointman. And i'll tell you what i'm thankful that I got a great .

coach is pretty good.

Yeah it's actually my whole career. Is any .

read right now?

Right now not a bad camp. Um let's move on to a row back, baby. We are all brothers here in the nfo. We got both two sets of brothers. Your brothers also played in the league.

We've told wild stories of what I was like for us growing up in plane sports, being crazy competitive to break in every single window that we had in the house. What was that like? Grown up being one of five?

You know, IT was amazing. Like, like you just like, I feel like we've had the same childhood and a kind of breaking windows that the football going thrown around the house kickball whatever IT was. But I truly believe that help me get to where I am now. And I would say he was probably the same for you guys because you guys that didn't matter what age you were. I mean, Jason, and being bigger and chavez, but he's probably playing with you and all your friends and whatever competition and that's how was and like that many hacky, we many sticks.

You know what that guys talking about.

baby? That's where IT all starts.

That's where IT all starts. I mean, the mini stick part of there, I mean you don't want to lose when your kid IT doesn't matter if if your brother, your friend ah and I was just the best time, I mean, fall out heads, many sticks and in chains.

We have had this here, my little problem to the household because he got stitches right across his chin, and because, but I actually think I actually just went back the buffalo, and my brother built, he has four kids. He built a many stick arena. And what I do, I went right down there, put the golly pads on my head.

so then I can sit .

and you both only that I made a big, big net, and they're all shooting. I mean, I put the help out in the glove and my friends were rejected. I'm just sitting there just bringing back child with library's man.

I was the best IT was just maham. I love that. Man, my childhood was so awesome. Man, I loved that.

That was one of our highlights. Two is when biden or dad built the many stick en in the basement, got a bunch like plywood for board, we were checking each other and do IT go and nuts. Many six.

where was that growing up? The absolute best man. But you and your brothers are, are up to something nowadays.

You guys got your your ice shaker. You guys invented the ice shaker. Yeah, I want to tell a .

lot about IT. Oh yeah, out. I got the Christmas team.

I shake your right here. It's beautiful. My brother Chris, he's kind of a genius. I mean, he went to arizona with me and I saw he is in the business and he never started.

He go and just get like an a and i'd be like, that's that's incredible. He was just a genius like that. A he played three years in the lee as a full back position and then after he left, he created the business.

I shaker or he's just like he's used in other protein shakers and they would smell like a plastic pointing stuff and they are not. Yeah, he created that. He's just been doing a good job just improving in every single year.

He's got about six years deep now into IT and he's a he's a great example. Actually all my brother's are from, I mean, you can struggle big time going from an athlete, you know, to the next face of your life. And it's great that you guys are doing this pocket because then that helps set up like what what to do you know, activities to do after you're dumpling and all that.

And my brother, especially Chris, I mean, all my brother done a great job, but Chris started his business eyes shaker and kept him busy right away. And he just spent improving in every single year. We want to shark tank with IT and then A A bought in.

And I bought out a. He made about triple his money when I bought, when I bought out a. So that .

was a good investment, right? you.

right. So now i'm a part of IT. You know I just do like i'm kind of like just a spokesperson for IT kind of market for him.

You know use my social media, you know do some go to some events for home as well. But I just really cool just to see how well he's doing and also how he made his family part of her. Just it's very successful and he just know, trying to take you to the next level every single week.

And I think we might this, I shake her .

a new heights. Sponsor, yeah.

you know.

get IT you have in word shaker for you guys you guys .

about coming.

You're coming, you guys. I mean, it's a great. He's got many different sizes. He's got gallon jogs now, half gallon and keep you a drink warm for thirty plus hours or .

if you want to go out.

doesn't matter. He does a great job with he works hard with IT as well. So you guys guys some custom ones coming next week.

we'll be there is go, baby. We appreciated that. So we're on a podcast.

So we've got to do a mount rushmore. Men, my brother did a filly. Legends, we had a jail and urge, do as favor cubes. Pet, pet homes did wide receiver cub combo do those? You are definitely on that when my brain. So for your mount rushmore, we wanted to bring IT brother style out of your five brothers played in the nfl um who is on your nfl brothers mount rushmore, not including .

not in .

the goes are right .

right. A great .

question right there. I mean, i'm probably put them number one right now. I mean, I mean, they're just tearing up the difference aside of the ball and go with the wap brothers. I mean.

J J A thing career .

and I was brother T J wet over at the stealers winning M V P, dif， M P, M V P. They both sign, they bow top each other with with their deals that they sign, you know, putting that out there. So be they go full speed every single play.

And then they had another brother as well. That was a full back. And so I ve got to put them number one, especially on the deep fanciest there by far.

Number one. And how may I? And how many brothers are we picking? How many people .

are going .

up on the last? I'm going to go with the mico twins. You know.

they don't really, little by little been .

an easy day. Good, like easy guys. I play with David.

I mean, he he's bone with the pages for twelve years now and his brother joined us. We actually want to super bother gather when we beat the rams in alana and up here, all of the brothers were the team. They are kind of like under the radar players. I mean, don't get as much pressure as everyone else, but they're great players, great and they bow. Super ball man, get to throw me out some .

more names just just we got, we got the manning.

We bennet brothers have to say to to .

your teammates as well around .

day tiki barber.

And we hear that all all this holy crap how man, i'm just saying the first .

two that .

pop brothers .

so I wasn't we're .

to put the manning brothers on IT for sure. I am hundred percent. I mean, they are both super bol champions.

I mean, they both want, what, two super balls each, right, two super bowls. And there not rush more for after football as well. They're bolt in every commercial.

They got the omaha productions going on as well. So there mount rushmore by fire. You've got to have the cubes on there.

Theyve changed a game. Both of have change the game and many aspects of IT as well. So the many brothers and then, man, my last pair of brothers, though.

the last ones always .

hard to named and off. Everyone I like, I like the admins know the guy, the lime backers right now.

Now, yeah, these guys are still play.

I got to prove themselves way more.

you know.

and that i'm going to go with the what you said. I'm going to go with the band of brothers and the baLance because I wanted superb. Martell's was on the team here marah the when we beat the leana. And then also I want to go with with the other banned because when we beat, when not my .

time, what's .

actually after the game like .

what I and me and him to .

start up and I was started. So me, him hitting him with that haymaker and winning a super ball with with my tellers puts them into map rushmore.

Baby, I style baby and other other .

questions. Just people, one of our favorite ite segments that we do every week where .

we get to be people.

We take questions from the fans who could be forgot our related might not be foota related ah this one most of properly do. Our most recent one is best animal, if properly trained, to play foot all in a position. Then I went elephant. Travis went gilla.

I went gorilla.

Baby, do you go? bird? I I know what i'm thinking. I got IT down .

right about.

I'm going to go with .

a dinosaurs. I think think .

we don't think think .

we gave you the .

rules that we were given and you took IT to another level .

which which .

dinosaur probably like i'll just go with the big bad one, A T. Rex baby. And we were attitude and being after going on, yeah, it's going to be a running back. No one take him down.

I got to say I think that definitely is gonna to elephant anguilla. That's awesome, right? Do you think you would be easier for an NBA player to play in the nfl, an nfl player to play in the NBA?

Oh, man, that's a great question. I like that question, but it's gna be easier for nfl player to play in the eba?

No, you try. Thank you guys. Dick ous.

you you know, man, what made you say? Thank you. An aspect, the hitting aspect. And also what makes me say is watching dreaming Green .

dream and Green play .

tied and and everybody thinks the first day, I don't care. I was confused.

Take him. I don't know about heck you, I mean.

you can throw, you can throw a sand, you can draw a hop ball player. And like, I seem like Evans play baseball. I was like, man is just jet.

Like he is a he could he's a dog. He could definitely play also. Like if we focus on that, he could he's got MBA talent. He was impressive and a lot of a lot of receivers and dbs have that type of town. But also you can throw someone in there like a tighter or something .

and uh and uh, you can just have a role for them as a role player.

D role? exactly. When I talked about a all .

play with I diggin the .

fuck and face i'm .

getting ganging up on by titan, and I you go, we've also debated signing babies on the show, whether that's acceptable not to sign a baby. I've got a feeling you've got, you have to have a crazy story. What is a crazy thing you signed.

man. I actually never signed a baby, but thinking about IT and that would be a little like they're in like they're .

absorbing .

every going to see baby. That's what in the .

baby and it's going like right .

through the skin. Pick up stuff of the .

sharp .

y box has a warning that says, keep away from eyes and mouth. I don't .

think I want .

to see that. I.

Put isn't .

something .

Better now, but I ve signed some crazy things like some dollar bills and stuff, some money. Uh, shoes, uh, what phone cases, phones. I mean, ah what what wild is this like? Because they all want IT like under four ARM that is like four ARM.

And then I did some people's foreheads as well too, you know like like I had and then they showed up nothing really yeah yes. And their parents are like shaking their head, like, oh my god. Like not your but they probably .

secretly wanted to. They are like, let's make sure that you shouldn't done that.

Let's go to pick next, next. Signed my next that's a like a one last question, brother, one last question. Where where all vets in the game here? If there was any advice that you would give your Younger self in the league for any advice that doesn't mean to make your game that was Better, just like look at back on your careers or any one thing like IT for me I was I don't do a fuck and day and show, you know I mean, like IT for you.

I was. Well, we got to .

have an ea say.

I give myself two advices and coach balal check always told us this one is, is that the best answer is no? You know, if I can go back out to definitely said no to probably have the things that I did and the field and off the field, like especially off the field I mean, as a kid know you got started on like twenty to use all you don't know how to say no, the people are anything you mania you can get bullet over pretty easy I can say no that anything now.

But at that time you you know is hard to say no and you'd be doing things that just to please other people and then the other one who would be to take care of yourself, to take care of your body. Like I said, I can go back. I would definitely started, you know, doing treatment on your body, getting body work done and all that, and learning how your body, you know, works functionally oh yeah, that of just going out there and just try to run at people every time. So take care of your you .

learn how to say no as a great advice is you Jason even told Young.

I think what I was told my Younger self is um I don't just embrace people. I think when I was Younger I had a lot more like rigid viewpoint of what I thought doing the right, the wrong thing is, or plane in the nfl was. And I think as i've got an older like, i've had to appreciate guys who they are and like what makes them unique and what what like makes them a special and they that might be partly like andy reed monitor and stuff like that was you embrace your personalities and I don't know I think that that's probably the one thing that um I would say to my Young self like you know don't try and be anything, just you can be yourself and be a bowler and frequent .

go to the .

game you're right, own baby. Already the we've reached the new height stamp of the weak segment. And rob with you be in the guess it's going to be rob's new height stamp. So this is, you know, you shout out somebody who's taking their game, uh, to new heights.

We get I want to shout out someone on the man this is, this is gonna an ordinary. You're going to be surprised with you. I say it's I think travel met him before.

It's no athlete or anything actually when we go places at the beginning, I used to say he was a fallback for the bengals and o seven but i'm on go with one of my good friends and and my roommate here and fox pro master chooses he lives at my house. I call mr. All purpose, and his name is Bobbye Jones, and I want to say he Bobby bones.

I want to say this guy is mr. All purpose. He can drive you.

He can be your security. He can fix any light in the house. He can be electrician if you need them to be. He can jacket.

he can build out.

He can build a house. Sometimes he'd done at all. I've seen them do IT all.

And if he doesn't know how to do IT, he figures IT out within five, ten minutes, for example, he just put my new sana and he had, he had a run wires. He's in legacy as well. He had a run wires, had a run wires.

The amp. Up to a twenty amp. I'm pretty shirt in order to give power to the.

But why he had new heights is because he bought a build in and he he took the building. He runs out the bottom, its four graduate, and the top was a dumped. But he was inside at the top and he turned that top.

IT was my saw over the place when he got up there, dirt everywhere, and he turned IT, and he just first finished the final coating of the whole entire thing. And he made IT into a social club and down in the prevents area. And a growing up, he always had a social close, his family and them.

And he just did the whole thing himself. He built the whole thing, the floor in the walls, the bathrooms, the kitchen, that whatever you name. And he did IT himself.

And he took his game to a whole new level. And go, baby, that man, how someone can do that. They're jack of all trades. So I got ta give IT the boy gones.

We're taking IT to .

a new level, the army body. Baby, I love that. That's legendary.

What can he do? You you guys ever heard of a guy like guy? I know a guy. yeah.

How we good. Yes, there you go.

That's it's nice when you all .

need to know one that exactly the definition you can give a right. There .

are try.

I guess I got got a question for you guys as well, man. I mean, obviously, you know you guys are in different teams space in each other and my parents always argued all, I don't have a favorite son um you know I love you who do you? Who do you who do your parents cheer for when you guys are face and office each other?

I mean, they say they're cheering for both of us, but we know that both of them secretly like one of us more but they .

don't say that was they don't say IT until mom kills, does say IT but that was just so SHE said he did say.

but you and I wont know you.

you're the baby I know what mom said. I only know what mama said I will say this so see, cheers for the office what we play that is as easy as shaking you and then she's happy for whoever won and obviously feels bad whoever lost, which is not on and .

then dad.

who is he mean in the tunnel first after you the game when you guys? That's that's the real question. Who is he seeing first?

I see and you, I think you see a you like, let's be honest, come on monday, even. Dad.

I thought I had dad.

we gotta play off game this week, this next week. And my dad, ready told me i've going to travis. So I said, okay, call, I don't. This Price, just my last every time ever doing this.

but at school.

wow, do we do? We just, is this your farewell tour? Did you just do you can say IT and that been saying this .

for the last four years. I have no idea .

what's happened to how do .

that's a good can I ask you that question? I know that we were done. How do you how do you know when it's officially time to retire? How did you know and you came back out? So I don't even know .

if you fully knew I did. I don't know even, but I kind of get pressed. I came back out, but I don't know, man, you just don't don't have that passion anymore. When when you're step and out there like you just know, I feel like you're going to a have more years like I don't see IT and you get like you just said that you know what you're just saying because you you know it's coming down the line but truly there .

yet you you just kind of .

know man day will be pair yeah you'll just be ready for IT IT becomes very like IT becomes feels more like work you know like like like IT like you're aggravated by I gotto go in like I would say that when you know you just know when you know .

I expected brother, I respect IT man.

I cannot thank you so enough for coming on the show. There's been awesome conversation. Uh, been a highlight of us doing the show so far. So thank you so much.

Yes, no problem, guys. Man, you guys are awesome. Man, much love to you guys.

Know, know, sticking together as brothers. I mean, I love to see that with my family as well. We stick together. So whenever every event, whenever you guys have an event, I mean, if I can make IT love to come and you guys are invited to anything that I got going on as well. So I much love these people.

The best thing you are know when I playing in this game, baby.

i'll be a ground beef with the ground of if you, if you're not playing the game, you're on stage.

You got to, I want to have .

to learn the move you .

you like, I could do that.

You chuck .

the pears .

and will do our dancing. That is awful. But IT brings energy.

rob, you want to see a fuck and date, so you get this guy case beer. IT comes out. IT comes out, baby.

IT will will be back wednesday for the playoff edition to new heights. Watch to describe on youtube to the new heights channel and listen to describe where ever get your pocket once again.

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Thank you for showing up. You're absolute legend on off the field. Keep me in the pioneer that you are. Rather, we appreciate a big time.

Appreciate you guys much. Love to you. Love how you guys stick together as brothers.

And i'll i'll see you guys at grand beach if you don't make IT to the big game. And just here's a picture of us. Man, myself, you travel.

H, my dad and Bobby gones at the last ground beef. So check IT out. Let's go.

guys. And so you guys don't make IT. I'll see you there. But best of blocking the playoff. Man, keep kicking us and just keep doing what you guys are doing. Man.

thank you so much, brother.

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