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National Security Strategy and AI Evals on the Eve of Superintelligence with Dan Hendrycks

2025/3/5
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我长期从事人工智能安全研究,因为我相信人工智能将成为本世纪最重要的技术。我们必须确保人工智能被引导到富有成效的方向,并有效管理其潜在的风险,特别是那些系统性被低估的尾部风险。 大型科技公司在人工智能安全方面发挥的作用有限,它们主要关注的是一些基本的安全措施,例如拒绝与制造病毒等有害活动相关的查询。然而,人工智能安全是一个更广泛的问题,它涉及技术、地缘政治和经济影响等多个层面。 人工智能与国家安全息息相关。虽然目前人工智能的威力有限,但在网络安全、生物安全等领域已经显现出其潜在的威胁。未来,人工智能可能被用于开发更先进的武器,例如无人机、生物武器等,并对国家间的战略竞争产生深远的影响。 为了应对这些挑战,我们提出了“相互保证AI故障”(MAME)的威慑机制,这与核威慑战略类似。MAME旨在通过让国家之间相互承担风险,从而阻止任何一方试图利用人工智能来获得压倒性优势,避免可能导致全球冲突的超级武器竞赛。 在政策方面,我建议政府加强对其他国家人工智能项目的监控,并做好应对潜在网络攻击的准备。同时,加强对人工智能芯片的出口管制,防止其落入不法分子手中。 此外,我们需要改进人工智能评估方法。目前,大多数评估都集中在封闭式问题上,例如测试数学能力。未来,我们需要开发更多评估人工智能在开放式任务中的能力的方法,例如评估其自动化各种数字任务的能力。

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Dan Hendrycks discusses his journey into AI safety, emphasizing the importance of addressing AI's potential risks and the role of companies in implementing basic safety measures.
  • Dan Hendrycks is the director of the Center for AI Safety and an advisor to xAI and Scale AI.
  • He highlights the lack of safety efforts in large AI labs and their focus on basic anti-terrorism safeguards.
  • Geopolitical factors significantly influence AI development and competition, particularly concerning China and Russia.

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This week on No Priors, Sarah is joined by Dan Hendrycks, director of the Center of AI Safety. Dan serves as an advisor to xAI and Scale AI. He is a longtime AI researcher, publisher of interesting AI evals such as "Humanity's Last Exam," and co-author of a new paper on National Security "Superintelligence Strategy)" along with Scale founder-CEO Alex Wang and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt. They explore AI safety, geopolitical implications, the potential weaponization of AI, along with policy recommendations.

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Show Notes:

0:00 Introduction

0:36 Dan’s path to focusing on AI Safety

1:25 Safety efforts in large labs

3:12 Distinguishing alignment and safety

4:48 AI’s impact on national security

9:59 How might AI be weaponized?

14:43 Immigration policies for AI talent

17:50 Mutually assured AI malfunction

22:54 Policy suggestions for current administration

25:34 Compute security

30:37 Current state of evals