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S03 Ep07 RERUN: Trial of the Century

2025/5/9
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Andrea Dunlop
一名专注于真实犯罪和社会问题的媒体人物和作者。
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Gregory Anderson
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Howard Hunter
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Jonathan Leach
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Santana Rojas
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Andrea Dunlop: 在过去七周里，科瓦尔斯基诉约翰·霍普金斯案一直占据着我的生活。我一直在观看几乎所有的证词，Reddit 上的评论也提供了很多有价值的见解。对于我们这些身处医疗儿童虐待世界的人来说，这就像 OJ 辛普森案一样重要，这次审判将对我们未来的工作产生重大影响。在开庭陈述中，律师们有机会向陪审团讲述案件的故事，而不是具体的证据。这次审判的核心律师团队，对我来说，已经变成了真人秀明星，每一方都有自己的特点。这次审判非常艰苦，但我们希望尽可能准确地呈现案件。 Jonathan Leach: 作为一名审判顾问，我的主要作用是帮助诉讼当事人尽可能有效地向陪审团传达案件信息。这包括陪审团调查、模拟审判、与证人合作以及使用视觉辅助工具。总之，是为了帮助陪审团尽可能高效地理解发生了什么。如果你正在与本案中的辩方合作，那么你正在寻找的是一个会认真听取整个故事的人，而不是情绪激动到无法冷静下来听取案件的另一版本。作为原告律师，我正在寻找那些会认同比阿塔的困境的人，那些会在情感上和心理上将自己置于她的位置，并通过比阿塔的眼睛来看待整个叙述的人。 Gregory Anderson: 约翰·霍普金斯错过了对玛雅复杂区域疼痛综合征的诊断，并且明知如此，仍然给她错误的治疗，并将她从家人身边绑架，这些决定导致了比阿塔的死亡。我们将证明，他们不断指责比阿塔疯了，并试图伤害自己的孩子。 Howard Hunter: 我们没有理由希望这个家庭受到伤害，我们现在仍然不希望。科瓦尔斯基夫人的自杀是一个悲剧性的结果，我们对此感到非常遗憾。问题是谁应该对此负责。 Santana Rojas: 我只是记得她多次提到她的女儿患有复杂子宫疼痛综合征，并且她希望她能得到有同情心的家庭安置。我对她说，我没有为这种情况提供治疗，但我很乐意在门诊诊所看到她，以进行评估和提出建议。我们在诊所里有一个标准项目，我们让患者平均一个月，周一到周五，每天都进行物理治疗、职业治疗和行为治疗。

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This episode is a rerun of a previous episode covering the Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins trial. The host discusses the trial's significance and the challenges of covering a real-time case. She introduces the case and its parallels to the Rady Children's lawsuit, highlighting the availability of subscriber episodes on Patreon. The episode also acknowledges the support of the show's team and encourages listeners to support the show through various methods.
  • Rerun episode covering Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins trial
  • Challenges of covering a real-time case
  • Parallels to Rady Children's lawsuit
  • Subscriber episodes on Patreon
  • Acknowledgements to the show's team

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We're rereleasing an episode from our original coverage of the Kowalski case that was published on 11/7/2023.

With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach. They analyze the dueling opening statements, consider what each side is likely to look for in jurors, and which of the charges—if any—might be most viable.  

Andrea shares insights on the lawyers after watching their interactions in court. She also weighs in on the extensive medical testimony so far, including a major revelation about the origins of Maya's controversial CRPS diagnosis. We also share a chilling account of Maya’s ketamine coma that was shared in court via missives written by Beata herself.  

As both sides begin their closing arguments Andrea weighs the merits of what each side has told the jury and considers what the ramifications of the imminent verdict might be. 

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