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S06 E01: The Advocate

2025/6/19
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Nobody Should Believe Me

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Andrea Dunlop
一名专注于真实犯罪和社会问题的媒体人物和作者。
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Bea Yorker
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Lisa McDaniel
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Michelle
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Sabrina
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Michelle:我一直生活在家庭的秘密之下,现在我决定打破沉默,公开我母亲丽莎·麦克丹尼尔的故事。我希望通过讲述我的经历,能够帮助自己疗愈,同时也让更多人了解孟乔森综合症的危害。我承认公开这些事情让我感到害怕,因为我害怕伤害到我的家人,特别是我的母亲。但是,我也意识到,只有勇敢地面对过去,才能真正地走向未来。我希望我的故事能够给其他受害者带来力量,让他们知道自己并不孤单。 Andrea Dunlop:我理解米歇尔的顾虑,但我相信她的故事非常重要。作为播客的主持人,我有责任将真相呈现给听众。我相信米歇尔的勇气和诚实,她将帮助我们揭开丽莎·麦克丹尼尔的真实面目。我希望通过这个节目,能够提高公众对孟乔森综合症的认识,并为受害者提供支持和帮助。我承诺会以公正和客观的态度来讲述这个故事,尊重所有参与者的感受。 Bea Yorker:我非常支持米歇尔公开她的故事。作为一名精神科护士,我见过太多像丽莎·麦克丹尼尔这样的案例。我希望通过米歇尔的亲身经历,能够让更多人了解孟乔森综合症的严重性。我希望这个节目能够帮助受害者找到希望,并为他们提供康复的机会。我相信米歇尔的勇气和力量,她将成为其他受害者的榜样。 Lisa McDaniel:我理解米歇尔想要公开我们家庭秘密的愿望,但我担心这会对我的生活和工作造成负面影响。我一直在努力为NMO患者争取权益,我不想让过去的错误影响我现在的生活。我希望米歇尔能够理解我的处境,并尊重我的隐私。我承认我犯过错误,但我一直在努力弥补。我希望我的家人能够原谅我,并给我一个重新开始的机会。 Sabrina:我知道丽莎做过很多错事,但我仍然爱她。作为她的妹妹,我希望她能够为自己的行为负责,并向受害者道歉。我希望这个节目能够帮助丽莎认识到自己的错误,并开始改变。我相信丽莎有能力成为一个更好的人,但我需要看到她真正的改变。我希望我的家人能够团结起来,共同面对过去的创伤,并走向未来。

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This season on Nobody Should Believe Me, we tell the story of Lisa McDaniel, who crafted a public image as the Director of Patient Advocacy at the Guthy Jackson Foundation while concealing her conviction for child abuse more than a decade ago.

We begin with an introduction to the McDaniel family: Lisa, her husband Carey, and their children—Mishelle, Angellyn, and Collin. While the unraveling of their family began when Collin was “diagnosed” with NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica), to understand the full story, we must go back to where it all began: Hazlehurst, Georgia.

Andrea and our producer Myrriah travel with Mishelle–Lisa’s courageous eldest daughter– to her mother’s hometown, where they sit down with Lisa’s younger sister, Sabrina. Sabrina recounts a childhood marked by emotional manipulation and physical abuse at the hands of her older sister. She walks us through Mishelle’s early years, how, as a baby, she was often left with relatives for days at a time, and then through Lisa’s troubled pregnancy with her second child, Angellyn.

Stay tuned through the end of the episode for a preview of what’s to come this season.


Andrea’s June 28th event with Lisa Jewell: https://townhallseattle.org/event/lisa-jewell/)

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This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

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